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May 13 Open Chat: Rogue T-Shirt Night?
2005-05-13 13:38
by Jon Weisman

Tonight's Game

After the game is over, will we hear stories of Dodger Thoughts readers recognizing each other by wearing the same shirts, or as they used to be known before the dawn of Yhency Brazoban, sirts?

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2005-05-13 16:44:37
1.   Bob Timmermann
Random Dodger game callback (hope this didn't get posted twice)

May 13, 1975

Burt Hooton, who had had two bad starts since being acquired in a trade from the Cubs, threw a 2-hit, 5-0 shutout in St. Louis before a crowd of 18,519 at Busch Memorial Stadium. Backup shortstop Rick Auerbach, filling in for the injured Bill Russell, drove in 2 runs and center fielder Jim Wynn drove in 3. The win put the Dodgers, the defending National League champs, 4 ½ games in front of second place Cincinnati.

But come June the season would go south on the Dodgers while the Reds took off. The key contributors of 1974, Wynn and reliever Mike Marshall could not match their efforts from the previous year as they were plagued by injuries like the rest of the Dodgers in 1975. The Dodgers ended up 88-74 while Cincinnati rolled up a 108-54 record which would eventually earn them a World Series title.

Hooton was one of the two bright spots for the Dodgers in 1975. Acquired on May 2 from Chicago in exchange for Geoff Zahn and Eddie Solomon, Hooton finished with an 18-7 record and a 2.82 ERA. Hooton won 12 straight decisions to finish out the year. Steve Garvey hit a 2-run game-ending home run off of J.R. Richard on September 26 to give Hooton his last win. In his career, Richard was 15-4 against the Dodgers with a 1.86 ERA.

The other highlight for the Dodgers in 1975 was the performance of second baseman Davey Lopes. Lopes stole 77 bases to become the Dodger to lead the league in steals since Maury Wills in 1965.

The most important player on the 1975 Dodgers however was Andy Messersmith. Messersmith put up a 19-14 record and a 2.29 ERA. But more importantly, Messersmith played the 1975 season without signing a contract. Messersmith, along with Dave McNally, decided that they would test out the legality of baseball's reserve clause at the end of the season.

In 1976, Messersmith was on the Braves. And baseball was much different.

Thanks to the New York Times, BaseballReference.com and Retrosheet

2005-05-13 16:46:46
2.   Marty
Bob, it did get posted twice, just not in the same thread :)
2005-05-13 16:53:34
3.   LetsGoDodgers
This stretch of games should be interesting. Top-notch competition. Ailing heroes returning, just in time to replace the recently injured, although in different roles.

A fine test of mettle. Is a homestand "split" of 4 wins and 5 losses considered a victory, given who is (and isn't) on the roster?

2005-05-13 16:54:56
4.   Jon Weisman
Still haven't heard if Eric Gagne got activated today, or if he's dropping his appeal.
2005-05-13 16:59:29
5.   LetsGoDodgers
Tonight's game could be a tough one.

On the upside: Weaver at home, coming off a pair of good starts.

On the downside: the Braves starter (Ramirez) is a lefty, so no Starting Choi tonight.

2005-05-13 17:14:14
6.   Bob Timmermann
One of the pitchers for the Cardinals in that 1975 game was named Tommy Moore (he relieved Lynn McGlothen). He was born in Lynwood. Anybody remember him?
2005-05-13 17:16:30
7.   Bob Timmermann
The Giants have the bases loaded with 2 outs in the top of the 1st against Ezequiel (Dry Bones) Astacio.
2005-05-13 17:22:19
8.   Bob Timmermann
Infield hit and error by Jose Vizcaino (on the same play) gives the Giants a 2-0 lead as them Dry Bones are going to walk around.
2005-05-13 17:29:20
9.   Bob Timmermann
Although I'm the only one here it seems, I think the Giants have clinched their win already.

I can't see the Astros scoring 3 runs or not allowing anymore. And Garner is batting Orlando Palmeiro in the #3 slot.

2005-05-13 17:38:30
10.   GoBears
Bob, in the immortal words of Frasier Crane,
"I'm listening."
2005-05-13 17:40:43
11.   Bob Timmermann
'Stros have the bases loaded with no outs in the second.
2005-05-13 17:41:18
12.   Vishal
hah, looks like chin-feng chen is leading the poll on dodgers.com about which "prospect" is going to help the dodgers the most this year. he's got 43% of the vote to edwin jackson's 34%. they must be using the word prospect pretty loosely though, because in addition to CFC there's also mahomes.

i voted for aybar, but i hope it doesn't come to that.

2005-05-13 17:43:52
13.   Suffering Bruin
TODAY'S FACT OF CHOI, SB'S FAVORITE PLAYER, 2005:

More from my source in Korea who refuses to be named, thus forever annoying yours truly...

I asked my source about Choi's Mountain Dew episode. For those who don't know, Choi did the Dew so much before one game he got dehydrated and had to be taken to the hospital for IV treatment. My source was less than shocked. Choi had a very rural upbringing and wasn't exposed to sodas, popular entertainment and other aspects of American life that we take oh-so-much pride in.

And the large appetite? According to the source, it ain't a myth. He really can--and does--eat ten eggs and three steaks in the same day.

FOOTNOTE: Some of you e-mailed to say you enjoyed the 'fact of Choi' on Wayne Belardi. Thanks for that; I was deeply concerned it would be too long. I'll try a few more but again, let me know if those long posts are annoying. If so, I'll create some kind of link.

2005-05-13 17:44:38
14.   Suffering Bruin
By the way, Bob T. hit for the cycle today.
2005-05-13 17:45:08
15.   Suffering Bruin
I wonder if I could do that...
2005-05-13 17:45:37
16.   Bob Timmermann
Obscure facts connected to connected to other obscure facts are the best obscure facts!

2-1 Giants with 2 outs. Everett singled in a run and then Chavez bounced into a 1-2-3 DP.

2005-05-13 17:46:26
17.   Suffering Bruin
SB rounding third... OUT AT THE PLATE!!

Great tag by Timmerman!

2005-05-13 17:46:52
18.   bigcpa
I'll be sporting TEAM DEPO on Sunday at photo day. I'm charging over to Choi as soon as they open the gates!

*LAST CALL by the way on the TEAM DEPO Second Edition T's. *
I have around 10 ordered but the cost goes down significantly if I get to 15. So now or never! http://tinyurl.com/8ez6z

2005-05-13 17:46:52
19.   Linkmeister
SB, you should create a name for your source. I realize "Deep Throat" is forever taken, but surely there are other options.

A poll! We need a poll!

2005-05-13 17:47:53
20.   Bob Timmermann
No cycle for SB.

Jason Lane got tagged out at home trying to score on a pitch in the dirt.

It must stink to be an Astros fan now.

2005-05-13 17:57:07
21.   the OZ
Around the League...

Shawn Green gets a night off in COL. They'll miss his .694 OPS, no doubt, against The Lefty Jeff Francis.

Not to dwell in the past, but somehow Tom Glavine and his now-5.77 ERA have held Eckstein, Walker, Pujols, Edmonds, Sanders, and Grudzielanek to just one hit in 15 ABs. What gives? I wonder if our pitching was really bad, or they just hit a ton of line drives...

Jose Lima gave up 5 runs in 5.1 innings last night to run his season ERA to 6.85. He struck out 4, walked 4, and didn't allow a HR for only the third time this season. He is my best player in BP's 'Hacking Mass' league among other such luminaries as Scott Podsednik and Brad Ausmus.

2005-05-13 18:00:07
22.   Bob Timmermann
I hate Kirk Rueter, but not as much as I hate Russ Ortiz.

I don't know which one is luckier.

2005-05-13 18:02:37
23.   Bob Timmermann
Single
Single
Walk
Single
DP
Single
DP
Pop out

Last 8 Astros against Rueter.

1 run scored.

2005-05-13 18:02:45
24.   popup
Bob T, I am an Astros fan right now. Then again, I am a fan of any team who is playing against the Giants.

Thanks again for the daily Dodger retrospectives. I very much enjoy reading them.

Stan from Tacoma

2005-05-13 18:04:57
25.   Bob Timmermann
Now the Rockies have the bases loaded with 1 out against Brad Halsey.
2005-05-13 18:08:43
26.   Suffering Bruin
Bob, I haven't said how much I appreciated the Random Game callbacks. Great stuff.
2005-05-13 18:27:18
27.   dzzrtRatt
The Astros could have upgraded significantly if they'd picked up Alex Cora. Kent was killing them.
2005-05-13 18:34:18
28.   GoBears
27. HAH! Maybe Cora could have played 2nd base AND CF, to replace both Kent and Beltran.
2005-05-13 18:35:36
29.   Jim Hitchcock
Anybody watching Costas(aka The Great Dodger Enabler) NOW on HBO? Billy Crystal talks about his first baseball game. He and his father were guests of Louis Armstrong and got a trip down to the runway next to the locker room. Out walks Casey Stengel:

Crystal: Who's pitching today?

Stengel: You are, kid; suit up.

2005-05-13 18:53:35
30.   Bob Timmermann
Glad folks the history vignettes. I'm still waiting for a game that someone attended in person or remembered seeing on TV.

It will be a while before we get to a World Championship year.

2005-05-13 18:54:05
31.   Bob Timmermann
I meant "glad folks ENJOY the history vignettes"
2005-05-13 19:07:17
32.   tjshere
Bob - Count me in as one who really enjoys your callbacks. Not only are the game stories great, it's also a lot of fun hearing some of those old names I haven't heard in years. Rick Auerbach? Doug Rau? Wow! Takes me back to my misspent youth.

Anyway, thanks a lot for going to the effort to post our daily dose of nostalgia.

2005-05-13 19:08:24
33.   Jim Hitchcock
The Mets beat StL 2-0.

Sure. Knew that was gonna happen, didn't we?

2005-05-13 19:17:13
34.   Marty
Bob, I hope you get to the famous 3-homerun Kingman performance game. I was there for that one. Though, I wish I could have been in the clubhouse for the interview.
2005-05-13 19:22:05
35.   Bob Timmermann
That day already passed. That was on a Mother's Day.
2005-05-13 19:27:58
36.   Bob Timmermann
Darn, no Raul Mondesi tonight!

Instead Cox is starting Pancreas Man in right field, Ryan Langerhans.

"Old Friend" Brian Jordan in left field.

2005-05-13 19:28:04
37.   Jim Hitchcock
For those who didn't hear it, Gagne will be activated tomorrow, and is appealing his suspension.
2005-05-13 19:28:57
38.   Bob Timmermann
Rockies 9, DBacks 3 in the 5th.
Giants 4, Astros 1 in the 8th.
2005-05-13 19:33:14
39.   Bob Timmermann
4-2 Giants now after an RBI single from Orlando Palmeiro.

Alou is going for his third pitcher of the inning. And it's not like these guys are getting hit either.

2005-05-13 19:34:40
40.   Marty
Maybe I have my memories screwed up. Wouldn't be the first time. But I remember that game to be in June. Seaver pitched too and threw a 3 hitter. Kingman hit 3 homeruns plus a foul pop-up that glanced off of my brother's hands and hit me on the nose.
2005-05-13 19:36:16
41.   Bob Timmermann
Kingman had his 3 homer game against the Dodgers with the Cubs and it was an extra inning game.
2005-05-13 19:36:55
42.   Marty
aahh...then I do have it wrong. A different three home run game. Thanks
2005-05-13 19:37:02
43.   Bob Timmermann
Jim Brower is appearing in his 21st game of the year for the Giants.

At this pace, he will have between 96-97 games pitched.

2005-05-13 19:43:03
44.   Christina
Well, if there's anything good about being stuck at work, it's being able to "watch" the game on GameDay with the fast DSL connection in my office...unlike my dial-up at home. Damn SBC.

What's the over/under for innings Weaver will pitch tonight?

2005-05-13 19:44:41
45.   Bob Timmermann
Weaver will go 6 1/3.
2005-05-13 19:45:52
46.   Marty
nice to see an easy, low-pitch first.
2005-05-13 19:46:52
47.   the OZ
Weaver will go 6+. Jim Tracy will leave him in to face 4 batter in the 7th, all of whom will reach base.
2005-05-13 19:47:57
48.   Jim Hitchcock
Last Braves came I attended I was sitting in the field level just off third base. All night long a cute blonde in a Chipper Jones jersey pranced up and down to the friendly taunts of the fans on both sides of aisle.

In the ninth inning, she caught as foul ball by...Chipper Jones. No, she didn't throw it back.

2005-05-13 19:49:41
49.   Christina
I must say, the photo of Repko Gameday uses is hilarious. His eyebrows and goatee look so fake.

And two fly-outs on the second pitch in a row...come on, show a little patience, guys.

2005-05-13 19:51:46
50.   Bob Timmermann
Did Chipper ask her out afterward? Chipper is no JD Drew.
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2005-05-13 19:51:51
51.   GoBears
Vinnie just made a point (in the top of the inning) about how many Cards reached base with 2 outs. Which makes me wonder - do you think he watched the games he doesn't attend? Or does he really take the time off? I kinda hope the latter. I imagine him at home, with a cameraman taking film of all of Vin's grandchildren out in the yard, and sending the feed to Vin's den, where he watches on TV.
2005-05-13 19:53:17
52.   GoBears
uh..."watchES the games he doesn't attend..."
2005-05-13 19:53:21
53.   Bob Timmermann
I doubt Vin goes out of his way to watch the games when he's off. I'm sure he gets a thorough briefing however. Or maybe he just reads Dodger Thoughts.
2005-05-13 19:54:50
54.   GoBears
Huh! Bobby Cox is from Selma, CA, the raisin capital of the world? They should sign him up as spokesman. He certainly looks the part.
2005-05-13 19:56:19
55.   Christina
Whoo, nice job with that K of Jones, Weaver!

20 pitches in 2 innings, so far very, very good for him...

2005-05-13 19:56:49
56.   brendan glynn
Ah, Andy Messersmith. A proud graduate of Western High School in Anaheim. Another famous Western Pioneer didn't have such a great day, today....Eldrick "Tiger" Woods.
2005-05-13 19:57:43
57.   the OZ
The Astros have both Roy Oswalt and Roger Clemens, and they're 12-23.

Does anyone think Oswalt will be available for trade? He's small and tends to get nagging injuries, but I've always liked his stuff.

2005-05-13 19:57:47
58.   Jim Hitchcock
Re # 50: Doubt he got the chance, Bob. After we threw her back, she was escorted away by security.
2005-05-13 19:58:03
59.   Bob Timmermann
Giants win 4-2. Five Giants pitchers combine to strike out no one.
2005-05-13 19:59:58
60.   Christina
Wow, Gameday is really on crack tonight - it showed 2 balls and 4 strikes to Kent!
2005-05-13 20:00:53
61.   GoBears
I have to run to LAX at 9pm. I'd resigned myself to listening to the end of the game on the radio. But at this rate, it might be over by 9!
2005-05-13 20:01:24
62.   GoBears
re 57: I think they'll try to move Clemens to the Yanks first, to dump that ridiculous contract.
2005-05-13 20:03:18
63.   GoBears
Wow, this Ramirez kid is fun to watch. He just made Kent and Saenz look foolish.
2005-05-13 20:03:33
64.   the OZ
Well, HoRam is throwing all 3 Mazzone pitches tonight: Fastball on the outside corner, fastball off the outside corner, changeup on the outside corner and low.

And he's gotten everyone out.

2005-05-13 20:03:41
65.   Christina
I thought I read somewhere that Clemens has a clause in his contract pushing a trade to a contending team if the Astros are out of it by midseason.
2005-05-13 20:03:43
66.   GoBears
The cycle!
2005-05-13 20:04:06
67.   GoBears
D'oh!
2005-05-13 20:04:09
68.   Steve
Remember thar stuff about Saenz playing first against lefthanders? Forget I mentioned it.
2005-05-13 20:05:10
69.   GoBears
Re 65: Apparently (this is according to ESPN, so judge for yourself) Clemens has told ownership that he'd only go to the Yanks.
2005-05-13 20:06:00
70.   Bob Timmermann
I don't know if Clemens has a clause in his contract as much as he'll just whine a lot about being on a bad team. See "Blue Jays, Toronto".
2005-05-13 20:06:42
71.   GoBears
Oh, sweet pitch to strike out Jordan. Looked like a strike, then tailed away. A slider, I guess.
2005-05-13 20:09:34
72.   the OZ
You may have missed the cycle, GB, but you're 7 for the last 12. That's pretty good.
2005-05-13 20:11:05
73.   Bob Timmermann
According to BBref, Horacio Ramirez is the only major leaguer to be born in Carson.

But I don't think there's a hospital in Carson. Harbor-UCLA is considered Torrance (by the Post Office).

So where was Horacio born? In a refinery?

2005-05-13 20:12:25
74.   Bob Timmermann
17-3 Rockies over the DBacks in Denver now.
2005-05-13 20:12:32
75.   Nick Iyengar
There goes Ramirez's no-no.
2005-05-13 20:12:47
76.   the OZ
COL 18. ARI 3.

That'll kill the ol' Pythag.

2005-05-13 20:13:30
77.   GoBears
re 72: Just as long as Jon doesn't sit me down against left-handers.
2005-05-13 20:13:41
78.   Bob Timmermann
But will the Rockies bullpen hold the lead?
2005-05-13 20:14:48
79.   Christina
This is reminding me of the As fans' joke about attacking with a Barrage of Singles!!

Not that the As are even hitting many of those this season...

2005-05-13 20:16:18
80.   the OZ
Are there any ballet dancers here that know the technical term for the manuever Weaver performed while running to first base after his bunt?
2005-05-13 20:16:29
81.   Jim Hitchcock
Very wide strike zone tonight.
2005-05-13 20:16:44
82.   Nick Iyengar
Hail Cesar!
2005-05-13 20:16:53
83.   Bob Timmermann
A run with only one ball leaving the infield.
2005-05-13 20:17:02
84.   GoBears
re 79: You'd think that with Beaneball, it would be "a barrage of walks."
2005-05-13 20:17:19
85.   Christina
Hey Steve, how do you feel about that bunt? ;-)

Speaking of the As, Rich Harden just went out with an injury.

2005-05-13 20:17:30
86.   MSarg29
Braves announcers giving a lot of love to Izturis as well as Weaver's bunting skills.
2005-05-13 20:18:20
87.   GoBears
I hate Chipper Jones.
2005-05-13 20:19:39
88.   Jim Hitchcock
That would be the balance beam non-rotational two footed pirouette. But you knew that.
2005-05-13 20:20:41
89.   Steve
Pitchers are a general exception to the bunting rule if the double play is in order. Not with a runner on second with one out. Tracy.

I wondered why Harden left that game, he'd gotten knocked around but it seemed early to pull a guy like Harden.

2005-05-13 20:21:32
90.   Nick Iyengar
I'm in CT, so I rarely see the Dodgers on TV (luckily getting them on TBS tonight) ... what's up with Repko? He hit the ball hard there - has it been a real slump, i.e. lots of strikeouts, or just a question of not being able hit it where they ain't? Either way, .190 isn't pretty. Werth can't get back soon enough.
2005-05-13 20:22:15
91.   Vishal
ack! what kind of injury??

(the A's are my other favorite team)

2005-05-13 20:23:17
92.   Christina
Yes, and Macha is not exactly quick with the trigger finger.

Harden has had high pitch counts all season, that may have caused strain...

2005-05-13 20:23:59
93.   Bob Timmermann
Jason Repko - 16 Ks, 4 BBs
2005-05-13 20:24:20
94.   Christina
Oh hey Vishal - same here, I root for the Dodgers first, because I grew up in SoCal, and the As second, because SF is my adopted home, and I certainly can't root for the Giants.

It's not known yet what kind of injury it is. Naturally, the Athletics Nation peeps are freaking out...

2005-05-13 20:25:57
95.   Christina
Uh oh - just announced...left oblique strain, same thing that took Huddy down a couple of years ago. Dammit.
2005-05-13 20:27:02
96.   the OZ
Adam LaRoche looks exactly like Sesame Street's Bert.
2005-05-13 20:27:16
97.   Bob Timmermann
Bob Melvin has inserted his fourth pitcher in the game. His Arizona team is losing 18-3. Felipe Alou used FIVE pitchers to pick up a 4-2 win for the Giants. Jason Christensen threw one pitch.
2005-05-13 20:29:04
98.   Xeifrank
Just turned the game on an inning ago, finally got the baby down for the night. Sure was a "productive" out from Izturis wasn't it!? :)

vr

Xeifrank

2005-05-13 20:30:08
99.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers have two Olneys tonight!
2005-05-13 20:30:21
100.   the OZ
Miguel Cabrera homers off Adam Eaton to tie the game 1-1 in San Diego.
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2005-05-13 20:30:35
101.   Xeifrank
96.

Hey! Sesame Street's Bert is my little ones favorite SS character. She loves it when Ernie blows his book away so they can go play ball!

vr

Xei

2005-05-13 20:31:13
102.   Nick Iyengar
Any news about how much longer D.J. Houlton is going to be with the big club? Somebody at Las Vegas (Mahomes?) must be more worth having in the mop-up role.
2005-05-13 20:31:34
103.   Xeifrank
Currently looking for "Ghame Over" t-shirts in the crowd. Drew draws another walk.

vr

Xei

2005-05-13 20:31:40
104.   Vishal
hah, similar story for me too christina. grew up in socal, went to school in the bay area. i hate the giants. i like to think about baseball.

yeah, i peeked over at AN but nobody said exactly what it was. oh now i see: left oblique strain, a la tim hudson.

i don't think his pitch pitch counts have been insanely high... i doubt that's what caused it.

2005-05-13 20:31:49
105.   Christina
That Gameday picture of Ramirez seems to look more and more tired/fried as the game starts going in the crapper for him. Heh.
2005-05-13 20:32:49
106.   Xeifrank
102.

I'm currently able to pitch home games. I'm sure DT could pitch in with bullpen by committee and do better than DJ.

vr

Xei

2005-05-13 20:33:14
107.   Christina
Harden's pitch count for the last four games was 119-102-121-107. So, who knows.
2005-05-13 20:33:17
108.   Xeifrank
Walk, DP, HR

Those DPs really kill you don't they!

Way to go Milton.

vr

Xei

2005-05-13 20:33:19
109.   MSarg29
nice shot milton
2005-05-13 20:34:08
110.   GoBears
Just to remind you, Nick (102), the decision on Houlton is to hold 'em or fold 'em. If they send him down, they probably lose him, back to Houston. Rule 5 and all that. Not that they shouldn't just cut bait (to mix metaphors) at this point...
2005-05-13 20:34:21
111.   Xeifrank
Dodger win expectancy up to 79.7 after the Bradley dinger.

vr

Xei

2005-05-13 20:34:27
112.   Bob Timmermann
The last four batters against Ramirez:
Line out
Walk
DP
HR
2005-05-13 20:34:47
113.   Bob Timmermann
Add Saenz lineout to the list.
2005-05-13 20:35:16
114.   Christina
Right now, I certainly wouldn't view the Astros grabbing Houlton as a big loss for us.
2005-05-13 20:36:52
115.   GoBears
He could leave LA for Houston, and raise the average pitching quality in both places!
2005-05-13 20:37:19
116.   Xeifrank
Prolly the D-Backs will be forgiven if the Suns hold on to this 6 point lead headed into the 4th quarter.

What's the deal with poker on every single night? And it's the same guys playing every time. I would much rather prefer watching a good game of "Go Fish" or "War"

vr

Xei

2005-05-13 20:39:19
117.   GoBears
HA! I knew Vin would get to the colorful houses in Curacao before the game was over. It's his favorite Andruw Jones fact.
2005-05-13 20:39:37
118.   Steve
Houlton may get around to being decent filler someday, but I can't imagine wasting a roster spot all year for him to try and figure it out. Let him go back to Houston, they get sick of him, release him, he comes here as a non-roster invitee, and makes the roster again.
2005-05-13 20:39:59
119.   Nick Iyengar
I'm surprised we'd hang on to Houlton (2.76 ratio in 12.1 innings, so he's got a decent sample size) just cause we're scared of losing him back to the Astros. At this point, he wouldn't be a big loss. Maybe the front office knows something I don't, but I'd say "fold 'em."
2005-05-13 20:40:45
120.   GoBears
Weaver is enjoying this huge strike zone tonight.
2005-05-13 20:41:43
121.   Steve
Umpire has a huge strike zone (Dodger fan talk for that strike two was high).
2005-05-13 20:42:08
122.   Im So Blue
Vinny just said something about a no-no.
2005-05-13 20:43:06
123.   Xeifrank
No jinxes tonight please.

vr

Xei

2005-05-13 20:43:18
124.   the OZ
Xei -

Poker is cheap for networks to produce - set down three cameras, pay an editor, a couple "announcers" making union scale. It doesn't need good ratings to turn a profit, which is what will eventually kill "The West Wing" - high production costs with an expensive ensemble cast.

And they can replay it over and over because, like the inside of a casino, there are no 'clocks' to tell you when or where it was produced.

I hate it, too.

2005-05-13 20:43:31
125.   GoBears
The Dodgers are certainly teeing off, but right at guys.
2005-05-13 20:43:31
126.   Vishal
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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