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May 18 Open Chat: Plinko!
2005-05-18 08:32
by Jon Weisman

Hooray! Plinko is by far the most celebrated and enjoyed pricing game ever played on The Price is Right.

- Game Show Central

The Dodgers plinkoed the Marlins on Tuesday, including their first home run by anyone besides Milton Bradley in the past seven days. After outhomering their opponents in April, 29-19, opponents have outhomered the Dodgers in May, 22-13. I have argued that the recent Dodger slump is more a problem of pitching than hitting, and the fact that the Dodgers have allowed more home runs in the first 18 days of May than they did in all of April supports that. But it should be said that the Dodger offense, while continuing to reach base this month, has had something of a power outage, helping to explain why the Plinko chips haven't all fallen where they'd hope.

Today, they will try to continue down the No Whammy road. Today's starter, Jeff Weaver, has a 3.54 ERA in May, with 22 strikeouts and six walks in 20 1/3 innings. Had he been lifted one pitch sooner in his last start, his May ERA would probably be 1.77.

Today's 12 noon game

* * *

Update: Antonio Perez is on the roster ... and Jason Grabowski is off, headed for the taxi squad - I mean, disabled list - with "a nerve impingement," according to Vin Scully via the comments below.

 

Comments (647)
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2005-05-18 09:23:28
1.   Vishal
man, i HATE plinko. if i was ever on the price is right, that's the absolute last game i would want to play, because the amount of money you win is determined by the randomness of the plinko board, and not so much by your skill. your skill gets you more chips, but the chips will still fall where they may.
2005-05-18 09:30:11
2.   Jon Weisman
I was surprised to learn from such a definitive source that Plinko was so celebrated and enjoyed as well. But in terms of unfairness: What about the Showcase Showdown?

I can remember when The Price is Right came on the air and the smart people knew to guess 2 as the first digit in the four-digit price of a car.

2005-05-18 09:38:13
3.   Identity Crisis
I always liked the guy/gal that would bid $1 in the beginning of the show :)

I also like the game where the little guy yodelled while climbing a mountain.

2005-05-18 09:41:19
4.   Landonkk
#3 : http://gscentral.net/cliff.htm
2005-05-18 09:44:25
5.   Jon Weisman
Yeah, that yodeler was all right.
2005-05-18 09:45:51
6.   Bob Timmermann
Random Dodger game callback

May 18, 1945

Despite playing in a season where offense was down due to World War II personnel shortages and in a stadium where the lighting would have been considered primitive by today's standards, a crowd of 31,334 at Ebbets Field saw the Dodgers run their record to 17-7 with a 15-12 night game win over the Cubs. Dodgers left fielder Luis Olmo drove in seven runs with a grand slam and a bases-loaded triple. Goody Rosen and Bill Hart also contributed home runs for the Dodgers.

Dodgers starter Roy Pfund gave up four runs in the first, but Olmo tied the game up with his grand slam in the bottom of the inning. Cubs starter Paul Erickson allowed the first Dodgers to reach and was relieved by Ray Prim, whom Olmo greeted with a home run. Olmo would bat against Prim again in the sixth with the bases loaded and tripled in three to give the Dodgers a 9-6 lead for reliever Ben Chapman, who held on for the win with some help from Vic Lombardi in the ninth inning.

After suffering through a poor 1944 season when the team was decimated by losses to the military, the 1945 Dodgers were able to piece together a respectable team from some rising stars and some veterans who got an unexpected chance to shine with the stars off serving Uncle Sam.

The Dodgers had an impressive offense despite hitting just 57 home runs. Second baseman Eddie Stanky led the league in walks with 148 and runs scored with 128. Olmo led the league in triples with 13. Right fielder Dixie Walker led in RBIs with 124. Olmo drove in 110. Four Dodgers scored over 100 runs. Besides Stanky, center fielder Rosen scored 126 runs, first baseman Augie Galan scored 114 and Walker scored 102 times.

Indicative of the times, many of the starters lost their jobs once the regulars came back from the war. Rosen, who failed in a tryout in the late 1930s with the Dodgers, was out of baseball after a handful of games in 1946. Olmo would not return to the Dodgers until 1949 and only as a reserve. Shortstop Eddie Basinski played one more year in 1947 for Pittsburgh. Backup shortstop Tommy Brown was just 17 years old and in his SECOND year with the team. The Dodgers used seven different catchers for the year. The team committed an astonishing 230 errors, 60 by shortstops and 50 by third basemen.

Winning pitcher Chapman would be traded to Philadelphia on June 15. Chapman eventually became the manager of the Phillies and would later earn scorn from Dodger fans for his vicious race-baiting of Jackie Robinson in the 1947 season.

While the Cubs had a bad day on May 18, 1945, they turned in a 26-6 August and won the National League pennant with a 98-56 record. The Dodgers finished 87-67, 11 games out and in third place.

Thanks to the NY Times, Chicago Tribune, BaseballReference.com and Retrosheet

2005-05-18 10:01:58
7.   Icaros
The yodeler was one of my favorites, too. That was one of the only games where I always rooted for the person to lose because I wanted to see him fall of the edge of the cliff.

I would also root against any contestant who I found particularly annoying.

2005-05-18 10:04:37
8.   Marty
I always HATED The Price is Right. Only gameshow I've ever liked really was Jeopardy.
By the way, someone I know very slightly is on, and leading the tournament of Champions this week. They are fighting over the right ot play Ken Jennings for 2 million.
2005-05-18 10:07:35
9.   Icaros
Well I guess Marty is just too brilliant for The Price is Right.

He probably refuses to have his pet spayed or neutered as well.

2005-05-18 10:10:05
10.   Vishal
i love jeopardy! too. i'm actually auditioning next week, on a whim, but i don't think i'll get on the show.
2005-05-18 10:12:45
11.   Marty
Oh, I didn't mean to come off as a snob. Sorry. I would have been lousy as a jeopardy contestant.
2005-05-18 10:12:55
12.   Vishal
re #2, the showcase showdowns are unfair because one is always better than the other, but at least you can win by being better than the other person. and if you do win, then it doesn't really matter what the other person's showcase was.
2005-05-18 10:14:26
13.   Icaros
Just teasing you, Marty.
2005-05-18 10:15:17
14.   Clive Clements
My friends tried to get on the Price is Right last year, and one of the interview questions they ask is "what's your favorite game besides Plinko?" You know what I miss about the Price is Right? I miss the mid-jump or mid-scream freeze frame whenever a contestant would win something. That was really the "heart and soul" of the game...Bob Barker's skinny microphone is a close second.
2005-05-18 10:15:55
15.   Icaros
Remember when Suffering Bruin was on Jeopardy? He really blew it in the final round.
2005-05-18 10:16:15
16.   Bob Timmermann
To appease Bob Barker, I had my cat spayed AND neutered! She was in all the veterinary journals.

Actually, I got her from a shelter and she came without all the original factory equipment. They wouldn't have let me take her home if she did.

2005-05-18 10:19:02
17.   Jon Weisman
12 - Sorry, what I meant was the spin of the wheel that qualified you to get to the Showcase Showdown.

When I was in Kindergaten, I missed most of a week of school because my mother took me out so we could watch a friend of hers on Password. She stayed on the show for five days. The lost school time has no doubt kept me from major success, but it was worth it.

2005-05-18 10:22:44
18.   Bob Timmermann
The password is "Birds"

Felix Unger: Aristophanes!

2005-05-18 10:22:58
19.   Clive Clements
I don't know if this was mentioned in another thread, but does anybody find it odd that Charley Steiner is the narrator on the new Dodgers DVD?

http://tinyurl.com/8fby5

2005-05-18 10:27:43
20.   Steve
Jim Tracy is going to do one of those online sessions on Friday. What in the world would I ask him?
2005-05-18 10:28:37
21.   Jon Weisman
That Odd Couple episode on Password is an unimpeachable classic.
2005-05-18 10:30:51
22.   Jon Weisman
"Jim Tracy is going to do one of those online sessions on Friday."

You mean, where the Dodger manager reminisces about his favorite game show memories? There are hundreds of great questions you could ask.

2005-05-18 10:32:03
23.   Xeifrank
Jeff Weaver is pitching tonight and the Over/Under on his innings pitched has been set at 6 1/3. Let the wagering begin.

I'll take famous Dodger pitchers for a thousand Alex.

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 10:32:19
24.   Steve
The Password is "bullpen."
2005-05-18 10:33:23
25.   Bob Timmermann
Don't talk to me about Alan Ludden!
2005-05-18 10:36:07
26.   Steve
Every so often Don Sutton would show up on The Match Game.
2005-05-18 10:36:15
27.   Xeifrank
Where is the info on the J.Tracy online thingy?

Alex: He made famous the knuckle curve.

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 10:37:47
28.   Bob Timmermann
Who is Burt Hooton?
2005-05-18 10:39:05
29.   Steve
It's on the Dodger website. Do we know for sure that it's Repko getting axed today? I'm holding out hope, and refuse to believe it until it actually happens, and even then I'm just going to call Grabowski "Repko"
2005-05-18 10:41:18
30.   Vishal
alex: that is correct, bob. choose a category.
2005-05-18 10:46:43
31.   Jon Weisman
Angels and Indians are already through six innings. Colon trails Westbrook, 1-0.
2005-05-18 10:46:54
32.   LAT
My favorite part of the Price is Right is where Bob Barker makes the showcase models have sex with him if they want to stay on the show. Oops that was the E True Hollywood Story on the Price is Right.
2005-05-18 10:47:46
33.   Icaros
It's going to be weird reading Jim Tracy's answering of questions with more questions.
2005-05-18 10:53:44
34.   JSN
I take the over on Weaver.
2005-05-18 10:55:46
35.   gvette
Used to work with a guy who won $25k on Jeopardy.

To this day, my former co-worker has an irrational, and unreasonable jealousy toward Ken Jennings that is truly frightening.

2005-05-18 10:57:34
36.   Jon Weisman
Seems like with all that can go wrong for a starting pitcher, these over/unders run a little high. What was the over/under on Johan Santana last night?
2005-05-18 10:58:28
37.   Jon Weisman
Does your former co-worker have a list of names like Bob Timmermann does?
2005-05-18 11:01:10
38.   Steve
Under.
2005-05-18 11:01:14
39.   LAT
Jon, I think Bob's list has only Russ Ortiz's name on it, but its on there many many times.
2005-05-18 11:02:34
40.   Bob Timmermann
The Angels game is likely to end before the Dodgers start at 12:10. They're in the 8th and it's 1-0 Cleveland.

The teams have combined to put 10 runners on base.

2005-05-18 11:04:10
41.   Steve
But it's not how many runners you put on base, it's how many you get in scoring position.
2005-05-18 11:05:45
42.   Vishal
i think kirk rueter's on bob's list. or if he's not he deserves to be.
2005-05-18 11:05:49
43.   LAT
Leaving for the game now. For anyone else going via the 10 East, apparently there is terrible traffic due to some event at the convention center. You may want to consider an another route.
2005-05-18 11:06:24
44.   Xeifrank
Check out the batting averages of the Angels nine starters today.

.250
.247
.225
.309
.203
.236
.218
.180
.227

My conclusion is that the Angels have a team full of Grabowskis. Vlady sure needs some help! No surprise they are being shutout through 8 innings. Colon pitched well for three days rest.

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 11:07:23
45.   Marty
The event is a Computer gamers convention. It is apparently a big deal with lots of attendees.
2005-05-18 11:07:36
46.   LAT
Hell, Kirk Rueter on MY list along with Grissom who is, or at least used to be, a Dodger killer (and that includes when he played for the Dodgers.)
2005-05-18 11:07:40
47.   Xeifrank
LA Traffic for those of you going to the game.

http://www.sigalert.com/map.asp?Region=Greater+Los+Angeles

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 11:10:57
48.   Bob Timmermann
Russ Ortiz is pitching today!

Other guys on the list include:
Kirk Rueter
Craig Counsell
Quentin McCracken
Andy Pettite (facing Ortiz today)

Emeritus members:
Tom Goodwin
Shawon Dunston

2005-05-18 11:12:36
49.   gvette
Does your co-worker have a list of names like Bob Timmerman does?

Too afraid to ask, although he prefaced every reference to Jennings by asking for the category "Lucky,greedy b*st*rd who ruined it for everyone."

2005-05-18 11:14:02
50.   Steve
How much did Cleveland pay the Catcher Formerly Known As Victor Martinez? Imagine batting Dave Ross cleanup.

Alex Cora's OPS -- .531

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2005-05-18 11:16:02
51.   Xeifrank
In LA, though, the wounds of the Lo Duca trade are still fresh, and Dodger fans' lingering distrust of Paul DePodesta affects the reputations of players like Choi and Brad Penny. Old-line manager Jim Tracy, reluctant to change his stubborn ways, might be served by remembering an ancient Chinese proverb: "Jade requires chiselling before becoming a gem."

Source: http://baseballtonight.blogspot.com/

vr

Xei

ps - someone tell that to Jim Tracy during his online chat. :)

2005-05-18 11:16:36
52.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Great site, Xeifrank.
Click on the red diamond, in the middle of nowhere in the upper right.
"Traffic Collision - Ambulance Responding 11:02 AM
Civi Mc vs Forestry Construction Bull Dozer"
The 'dozer won big, I'll bet.
2005-05-18 11:18:52
53.   Steve
Adam Kennedy OPS -- .472. Good chance of the "surprise" bunt here.
2005-05-18 11:20:29
54.   Vishal
what's so bad about andy pettitte?
2005-05-18 11:23:40
55.   Steve
Wedge pulling a Tracy in the Indian/Angel game. Only Bob Wickman can save him now.
2005-05-18 11:23:56
56.   Bob Timmermann
Andy Pettite was an annoying Yankee pitcher who was always made out to be a much better pitcher than I think he really is just because he pitched for the Yankees.

And I don't like his chin.

2005-05-18 11:24:07
57.   Steve
KABOOM!
2005-05-18 11:24:57
58.   Steve
Bob Wickman -- have a seat. It's not a save situation anymore.
2005-05-18 11:26:01
59.   Xeifrank
LAA about to take the lead in the top of the 9th.

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 11:32:48
60.   Steve
Come on Finley. Knock it out of the park. Wedge doesn't care -- he's trying to get fired.
2005-05-18 11:36:58
61.   Xeifrank
So will Shields come in to close it out?
(Not watching/listening to game)

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 11:37:48
62.   Steve
Yes sir
2005-05-18 11:37:56
63.   Bob Timmermann
Shields up Captain!
2005-05-18 11:38:58
64.   Steve
One to go -- finish them so we can dance on Wedge's grave
2005-05-18 11:40:06
65.   Bob Timmermann
Steve is branching out into other "Fire (Insert Manager Name)" blogs
2005-05-18 11:41:35
66.   Steve
Commence dancing. What an idiot -- the average manager appears to have the brain of a small goat.
2005-05-18 11:41:41
67.   Icaros
Suddenly, Milton Bradley looks justified for telling Wedge to get bent.
2005-05-18 11:42:59
68.   Bob Timmermann
Note to Jim Tracy:

Please try to get an early lead against the Angels. Bullpen won't cough up lead easily.

2005-05-18 11:44:32
69.   gvette
the average manager has the brain of a small goat

Pretty insulting to a small goat to be compared to Eric Wedge, or Clint Hurdle.

2005-05-18 11:45:35
70.   Xeifrank
So what's our lineup look like today?

1. Izzy
2. Choi
3. Drew
4. Bradley
5. Kent
6. Ledee
7. Perez
8. Phillips
9. Waiver

?????

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 11:46:58
71.   Icaros
Waiver shall be reserved for Scott Erickson, we hope.
2005-05-18 11:48:20
72.   Steve
Edwards at third. Bako Catching.
2005-05-18 11:48:52
73.   Jon Weisman
News flash: Grabowski not listed among reserves.
2005-05-18 11:49:54
74.   Steve
GRABOWSKI'S GONE!!!!!!!
2005-05-18 11:51:32
75.   Steve
PARTY AT MY HOUSE! SOUTHWEST IS PRETTY CHEAP! (Dances around the room)
2005-05-18 11:52:56
76.   Xeifrank
Not listed? Where's the list you speak of oh happy one.

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 11:53:05
77.   JT Dutch
... (Kind of a) newbie here at DT; I've posted only a couple times. Got a question for the rest of you: I'm at work on a computer without speakers. What would be the best place to get play-by-play updates on the game? I've been to Yahoo, but I'm sure there's a better option.
2005-05-18 11:53:24
78.   Icaros
Yeah, I hear parties in Utah really go off.
2005-05-18 11:56:10
79.   Steve
Well, yeah, and it would be non-alcoholic. And the kids would probably get in the way. Come to think of it, simply hold your own.

JT -- www.mlb.com's gameday is the best and quickest

And Xei, that list is on Gameday

2005-05-18 11:58:42
80.   JT Dutch
Thanks, Steve.
2005-05-18 11:58:59
81.   regfairfield
In other news, the White Sox manage to run themselves out of yet another inning. Pablo Ozuna and Scott Podsednik both caught stealing.

Final line: 3 batters faced, 2 hits, 0 left on base.

2005-05-18 11:59:12
82.   Steve
My question is when the "closers" in this league are Dan Kolb and Jose Mesa, why anyone is surprised when they explode with such regularity?
2005-05-18 11:59:31
83.   Jon Weisman
JT - just follow the link in my post at the top.
2005-05-18 11:59:56
84.   Fearing Blue
#76: Click on "Lineups and Bench" on the mlb.com Gamecast. A very large, left-hander, who likes to watch strike three and then get angry, is not listed.

#75: Frontier Airlines has cheap flights to Utah.. I'm on my way.

2005-05-18 12:00:28
85.   Sam DC
Reds are down 4-2 against the Mets. With runners at first and second and two outs in the top of the Sixth, Reds Mgr Dave Miley lets Eric Milton bat. Then, he actually gets a single, then Floyd throws out D'Angelo Jiminez at home to end the inning. Ouch.

JT -- mlb.com's gameday has a lot of info and detail. Whether the pitches actually were thrown where the little map plots them, I don't know. But it's fun to watch. (I do know that everytime a batter swings and misses or fouls or hits, the ball is plotted in the strike zone so clearly the total picture is something short of reality, but not sure exactly how much.)

2005-05-18 12:00:51
86.   Landonkk
As much as I am going to miss screaming out "The Dude", when Grabs made an appearance, I am happy to see him go. Recently I had resorted to screaming "The Dud."
2005-05-18 12:01:11
87.   Steve
Wouldn't you force the issue against Ryan Drese?

You wouldn't?

2005-05-18 12:01:23
88.   Sam DC
Then Milton immediately starts giving up hits and (so far) another run in the bottom sixth.
2005-05-18 12:01:29
89.   Im So Blue
This post is a little late, now that Grabowski's gone, but here it is anyway. I never did understand the fascination with having Grabs pinch hit. The company line was that he made the most appearances as a PH in 04, but he wasn't very good at it. Or at defense.

Good to hear that they kept Repko instead.

Pinch hitting stats for 2004:

PLAYER----- AB R H 2B HR RBI BB BA OBP SLG OPS
Jas Grabowski 69 5 12 5 01 05 10 .174 .278 .290 .568
Robin Ventura 48 7 13 0 03 14 08 .271 .368 .458 .827
Olmedo Saenz 48 6 15 1 03 13 04 .313 .345 .521 .866

2005-05-18 12:02:33
90.   Fearing Blue
#79: Ok, cancelled my flight. I'll have to crack open a cold one in celebration in Colorado Springs.
2005-05-18 12:02:34
91.   Vishal
i've seen a few strikes outside the zone on gameday.
2005-05-18 12:02:56
92.   Steve
85 -- wow. That's cosmic justice. I notice the Mets are now up 5-2 and Milton is blowing up. I'm beginning to think that rodents could manage major league teams.
2005-05-18 12:04:21
93.   Steve
Dave Miley, welcome to the unemployment line.
2005-05-18 12:05:53
94.   Sam DC
To close the loop, one out, bottom six, two runs in, two still on base, and Milton is out of the game.
2005-05-18 12:07:06
95.   Steve
Meanwhile, Jose Mesa giveth, and Ryan Dempster about to taketh away. Leadoff double to (wait for it) Tike Redman.
2005-05-18 12:10:27
96.   Jon Weisman
In other news, allowing six runs in the eighth inning last night was enough to get Jim Crowell DFA'ed by the Marlins. They have called up 29-year-old third baseman Joe Dillon, who has 13 home runs in 39 games for the Isotopes this season.
2005-05-18 12:10:51
97.   Xeifrank
Who's our new emergency catcher going to be then? Oh the humanity!

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 12:12:28
98.   Icaros
Don't the Isotopes have a mascot named Dancin' Homer?
2005-05-18 12:12:33
99.   Steve
Lloyd McClendon goes for a bunt -- runner forced at third. Then the Cubs commit an error to load the bases.
2005-05-18 12:13:17
100.   Im So Blue
So, do you think anyone is going to claim Grabowski off waivers?
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2005-05-18 12:14:30
101.   regfairfield
Well, if a team needs to hit Tike Redman third...
2005-05-18 12:15:23
102.   Icaros
He'll become the Giants' new first baseman and hit 35 HRs this season.
2005-05-18 12:15:31
103.   Jon Weisman
#100 - The Home for Ailing Dodgers in Pittsburgh might be a nice place. Ross and Ward speak highly of it.
2005-05-18 12:15:48
104.   Im So Blue
Vinny just reported that A Perez is back, and now Grabs is going on the DL with a "nerve impingement on his shoulder"
2005-05-18 12:16:23
105.   regfairfield
Blast.

Vinny claims Grabowski sent down due to a "nerve inpinchment", not general suckitude.

2005-05-18 12:16:29
106.   Steve
And Jack Wilson, hitting .179 and batting second in Dancin' Lloyd McClendon's lineup, grounds into a double play to end the game. On the first pitch. The ineptitude is stunning sometimes.
2005-05-18 12:17:08
107.   Landonkk
According to Vin, Grabs has had a shoulder nerve problem and will go on the DL... LOL. Thats funny. I've always thought that teams bent the rules by utilizing the DL. Obviously the case here.
2005-05-18 12:17:57
108.   gvette
Hate to pile on, but giving up a pinch single to Grabowski was probably enough for the Fighting Fish to DFA Crowell.

Sad to say, but Grabowski could be productive if he could play regularly somewhere, but he's totally miscast as a pinchhitter.

2005-05-18 12:18:52
109.   Jon Weisman
105 - I was just gonna say, if this were the NBA, Grabowski would be put on injured reserve due to "back spasms."
2005-05-18 12:18:59
110.   walking g
a "nerve impingement" according to Vin.
Thats what the matter with Grabowski is so he is on the DL. Yuck.
2005-05-18 12:20:23
111.   MSarg29
Speaking of bad managerial moves, this past Sunday I watched Dusty Baker in the first inning ask Neifi Perez to bunt Corey Patterson over to third w/ no one out. If that wasnt bad enough, he bunted at the first 2 pitches for strikes to Perez in an 0-2 hole.

So what does he do 0-2? Well he tries to bunt again - foul ball and strikeout. No run scores.

2005-05-18 12:20:32
112.   adg
Whee!

Great to get out of the 1st without damage.

2005-05-18 12:22:58
113.   JSN
Sorry to get to the Grabowski going away party a little late but:

WOOOOHOOOOOOO

What a convenient little nerve impingement.

2005-05-18 12:24:18
114.   Steve
I believe it's the trainer's job to injure players in this situation.
2005-05-18 12:28:37
115.   Vishal
i'm sorry guys. it's all my fault, but i think i fixed it. i have both kent and drew in a couple fantasy leagues, and yesterday i benched kent, so he started hitting. today i benched drew. voila, a double! i should've thought of this earlier. i finally benched eric chavez the last couple of games, too. it's worked wonders.
2005-05-18 12:32:26
116.   Icaros
Thank you for not walking Encarnacion.
2005-05-18 12:33:24
117.   Icaros
Thank you Mike Lowell for bunting.
2005-05-18 12:34:08
118.   Vishal
why would he bunt?? he's not even fast.
2005-05-18 12:35:54
119.   db1022
Steve -

Is DL'ing Grabowski what your most recent FJT post is about? Cuz usually I'm right there with ya on these odd, non-sequitor posts. But this one - I'm stumped.

2005-05-18 12:36:08
120.   Icaros
Ah, that's the genius of it, Vishal.
2005-05-18 12:36:21
121.   regfairfield
That's a lesson why you don't bunt.

That can not feel good.

2005-05-18 12:37:09
122.   Vishal
we didn't know grabowski was DL'ed at first; we thought maybe he was DFA'd
2005-05-18 12:38:01
123.   Icaros
Now Lowell's out of the game. WTF?
2005-05-18 12:38:13
124.   Vishal
hahah, did lowell pull something trying to beat out his bunt?!

there's a lesson to be learned, kids.

2005-05-18 12:38:30
125.   Sam DC
? Did Lowell bunt on one of his fingers or something ?
2005-05-18 12:38:44
126.   regfairfield
No, he got hit in the nose by a pop up.
2005-05-18 12:40:23
127.   Im So Blue
Lowell got plinko'ed on the nose by Bradley's foul pop up.
2005-05-18 12:41:59
128.   Marty
nerve impingement? Sounds like general soreness to me.
2005-05-18 12:43:02
129.   Icaros
Does this mean that Joe Dillon will be hitting today's game winning HR?
2005-05-18 12:43:27
130.   Langhorne
IBB to the fearsome Gabor.
2005-05-18 12:43:54
131.   Landonkk
Good.. I like my chances with Weaver over Bako here. Thanks Jack.
2005-05-18 12:44:03
132.   db1022
Joe McDonnell said they used to call Mike Marshall "General Soreness". Funny.

And that's the last reference to Joe McDonnell you will ever hear from me.

2005-05-18 12:44:09
133.   Icaros
Don't know that I'd walk Bako to pitch to Weaver.
2005-05-18 12:44:17
134.   Jon Weisman
Why are they walking the weaker hitter intentionally to get to the stronger hitter?
2005-05-18 12:44:36
135.   Steve
Good first two innings -- almost 40 pitches.

That's the dead parrot sketch from Monty Python -- with Grabowski in the role of the parrot.

2005-05-18 12:45:14
136.   Steve
Wow, that was a very stupid 0-2 pitch (the fastball Weaver fouled off)
2005-05-18 12:45:53
137.   joekings
At least we get the top of the order leading off the third.
2005-05-18 12:45:57
138.   Marty
Unfortunately Grabs may only be pining for the fjords.
2005-05-18 12:46:18
139.   Icaros
I guess McKeon's smart after all. At least Cesar leads off the third.
2005-05-18 12:46:34
140.   db1022
#135 - Damn, I didn't get the implied accent. My bad.
2005-05-18 12:49:18
141.   Icaros
Keep running Beckett's pitch count up. The key to today's game will be getting into the Marlins' pen so Tracy can PH Saenz for Choi.
2005-05-18 12:51:02
142.   adg
I always get the feeling that the wheels are about to come off in the third after a perfect first couple of innings. For some reason, the bottom third of the opposition always seems to get the better of our starters at this point.
2005-05-18 12:54:05
143.   regfairfield
So a team that has an obsession with bunting lets the pitcher swing away?
2005-05-18 12:55:32
144.   Jon Weisman
Seven groundouts, a popout and a flyout for Weaver.
2005-05-18 12:56:59
145.   adg
I for one, am glad to be out of their half of the third. I'll take an over on 7 and 2/3 innings for Weaver at this point.
2005-05-18 12:59:43
146.   Steve
You can't stop Izturis, you can only hope to contain him.

Nice AB by Choi, regardless of result.

I really despise Jim Tracy.

2005-05-18 13:00:34
147.   GoBears
gh - Tracy does it again.
2005-05-18 13:00:39
148.   regfairfield
Well, saw that coming once the count went full.
2005-05-18 13:00:56
149.   JSN
Man I wish Cesar would try and steal every time he gets on base. Then we'd win every game.
(and yes i know it was a hit and run that Choi missed but why in the first place)
2005-05-18 13:01:02
150.   Icaros
This really has to stop. HE CANNOT STEAL BASES WORTH A DAMN!
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2005-05-18 13:02:13
151.   Steve
I mean half the battle is making Beckett throw 20 pitches an inning, and we just hand them an out. So dumb.
2005-05-18 13:02:37
152.   JSN
Cool now Kent can bat with one on instead of two and two outs instead of one. Superb. Way to put our players in a position to succeed.
2005-05-18 13:02:40
153.   Landonkk
I don't mind that call.. Haven't seen Choi strikeout much lately.

Padres up already. Somebody cool them off please.

2005-05-18 13:03:08
154.   Icaros
If Tracy hit and ran with Choi, who strikes out everytime he doesn't get a hit, then he really does need to go.
2005-05-18 13:04:37
155.   Steve
BUT HE STARTED THEM TO STAY OUT OF THE DOUBLE PLAY, FOOLS! Why don't you pay attention to that which Joe Morgan teaches you.

Choi is going to walk on a lot of full counts. He's going to K on a lot of full counts -- neither of which really necessitates starting the runner except for kicks.

2005-05-18 13:05:16
156.   Jon Weisman
Putting aside the strategy of it all, why does Izturis get thrown out so much this year? I mean, nailed on a 3-2 foul-tip pitch by LoDuca? How often did LoDuca throw out guys on busted hit-and-runs when he was a Dodger?
2005-05-18 13:05:58
157.   Steve
The last time I saw Tracy do that, Valentin was at the plate! He must do it every couple of weeks to remind us of the power he holds to do evil.
2005-05-18 13:06:05
158.   Jon Weisman
Gameday:

"Florida Marlins third baseman Mike Lowell left the game due to an injured head."

2005-05-18 13:06:23
159.   JSN
I think one of us must have done something to Jim Tracy's family or loved ones and he is just torturing us for revenge.
2005-05-18 13:06:30
160.   Icaros
That was ridiculous, plus it made Plaschke's boyfriend look good by allowing him to throw out a runner.
2005-05-18 13:06:49
161.   Jon Weisman
Dodgers have now stolen 14 out of 22 this season. Opponents are 24 out of 31.
2005-05-18 13:07:15
162.   Steve
I don't think Izturis or Bradley is as fast as the coaching staff thinks they are.
2005-05-18 13:07:24
163.   FirstMohican
Re 158 - funniest thing all day.

Re H&R - WTF, Choi has hit into one DP all year!

2005-05-18 13:07:31
164.   Sam DC
"an injured head" -- not a common phrase, really.
2005-05-18 13:08:11
165.   Marty
Florida Marlins third baseman Mike Lowell left the game due to an injured head.

Was he hit by a falling anvil?

2005-05-18 13:09:15
166.   Jon Weisman
By the way, the Dodgers entered the game tied for third-to-last in the NL in stolen bases attempted this season. Only Colorado and St. Louis had attempted fewer.
2005-05-18 13:09:40
167.   Steve
That pitch was 88 from Weaver. I know as soon as I dare to hope, he'll suck again, so I'll just continue ripping on him all year.
2005-05-18 13:09:54
168.   Jon Weisman
165 -

No - by a Plinko chip.

And we've come full circle, everyone!

2005-05-18 13:10:22
169.   Steve
160 -- by five feet.
2005-05-18 13:11:42
170.   Icaros
WTF, Choi has hit into one DP all year!

Tracy must've confused Choi with last year's first baseman. It happens when you reach his age.

2005-05-18 13:12:10
171.   Marty
Milton, please do not try to steal third
2005-05-18 13:12:14
172.   regfairfield
Well, it would be 2-0 if Tracy wouldn't have sent Cesar.
2005-05-18 13:12:48
173.   Jon Weisman
With 52 hours between the end of this Dodger game and the start of the next one, Steve's Grabowski Priniciple should definitely be heeded with regards to Weaver as the game progresses.
2005-05-18 13:12:52
174.   JSN
I have never checked out the dodgers.com board but I just did for kicks. Needless to say I made it through 5 comments before I closed that tab...not even worth the entertainment value.
2005-05-18 13:14:08
175.   GoBears
Did those of you watching TV notice how far Kent was from being on the base in turning that DP? Sure, the old "neighborhood" play. Which is fine - I'm all for helping guys avoid injury. But it reminds me of how Robles got victimized and the team robbed the other day. Not only was Robles "in the neighborhood." He had BOTH FEET ON the base! That ump should be fired forthwith. Or worse, forced to apologize.
2005-05-18 13:15:03
176.   joekings
It started as a promising inning.
2005-05-18 13:15:27
177.   Steve
Bad luck for Bradley -- not his fault.

Vinny says that Lowell has a "facial laceration"

2005-05-18 13:15:43
178.   GoBears
And.........the Dodgers run themselves out of another inning. Bradley seems to get thrown out a lot on the basepaths.
2005-05-18 13:16:15
179.   Icaros
Could the bases be run more terribly this game?
2005-05-18 13:16:26
180.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
FC 1-5.
Wha?
2005-05-18 13:16:40
181.   Jon Weisman
That play prevented another intentional walk for Bako.
2005-05-18 13:17:17
182.   Icaros
Bad luck for Bradley -- not his fault.

Not watching the game. Please explain why I shouldn't be cursing Milton right now.

2005-05-18 13:17:29
183.   Steve
Beckett made a nice stab on a ball hit to the second base side of the mound. Bradley was in no man's land and Beckett threw him out at third.
2005-05-18 13:18:08
184.   FirstMohican
Unbelievable.... 2 on and 1 out turns to 1 on and 2 out last inning... now we have 1 on 2B and 0 outs turned into 1 on 1B and 2 outs.

Ridiculous...

2005-05-18 13:19:17
185.   alex 7
anyone up for the DH rule about now?
2005-05-18 13:19:24
186.   Steve
This will be Beckett's 79th pitch.
2005-05-18 13:19:34
187.   FirstMohican
At least Beckett's already thrown, oh, about 200 pitches...
2005-05-18 13:21:06
188.   FirstMohican
3 Hits, 4 Walks, 0 Runs, Go Dodgers!
2005-05-18 13:21:57
189.   Steve
Two pitchers combined -- 17 ground outs, 2 fly outs
2005-05-18 13:22:21
190.   Steve
I mean 4 flyouts
2005-05-18 13:22:42
191.   Shlomo
I don't know about the wisdom of the hit and run there, but last year Izturis stole 25 of 34.

74% isn't too shabby.

2005-05-18 13:23:07
192.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
We seem to be suffering from the old disease of not hitting in synch.

That being said, if Drew is heating up, the runs should eventually come.

WWSH

2005-05-18 13:24:29
193.   the OZ
7 baserunners, no runs.

I'd like to know what each manager's baserunner/runs ratio is. This seems like something over which managers have a marginal level of control - i.e., pinch-hitters, third-base coaching, basic running fundamentals, running decisions.

2005-05-18 13:25:07
194.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
I don't think Trace runs too much in general, and Jon's figures support that, but that hit-and-run was lame. Choi's not a prototypical 2-hole hitter, and he shouldn't be used that way. Tracy should play to his strengths--his power and good eye--rather than force him to put the ball in play.

WWSH

2005-05-18 13:25:09
195.   Steve
oh oh
2005-05-18 13:25:32
196.   Im So Blue
Did those of you watching TV notice how far Kent was from being on the base in turning that DP?

That's what I thought when I first saw it. I replayed it a couple of times on DVR, and it looks like he stepped on the bag and moved his foot off as he caught the ball and pivoted to throw to 1st. It looks like he was off the bag, but I couldn't be sure.

2005-05-18 13:25:44
197.   the OZ
Who knew that Mike Edwards and Joe Dillion would both be playing third base in the Majors in the same game...
2005-05-18 13:26:23
198.   GoBears
Wow - Edwards had NO range. Decent hands once he gets to a ball, but he's a statue. That was a slow roller.
2005-05-18 13:26:38
199.   oldbear
Here's where Weaver goes to crap. If you cant get Nacion out, something is wrong. And then Dillon? follows..
2005-05-18 13:27:22
200.   Marty
anyone up in the pen?
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2005-05-18 13:27:41
201.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
If Edwards' glove isn't much, that's another reason why Saenz should play 3B against lefties rather than benching Choi.

WWSH

2005-05-18 13:29:04
202.   Steve
Why he's only had 2 3-1 counts and a 2-0 count this inning.
2005-05-18 13:29:33
203.   Jon Weisman
David Wells today: 1 1/3 IP, nine hits, seven runs.
2005-05-18 13:29:42
204.   Icaros
Jeff, getting ahead in the count should help.
2005-05-18 13:29:48
205.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Let Weaver get out of it. Too early to go to the pen, just for two singles, and even with Weaver's propensity to collapse very, very quickly.
2005-05-18 13:30:02
206.   GoBears
To be fair, Edwards comes in on the ball (bunts, etc.) pretty well, better than Saenz. But I've seen no evidence of lateral range. Give Antonio a shot!
2005-05-18 13:30:19
207.   Jon Weisman
Horacio Ramirez today: 3 IP, eight hits, seven runs.
2005-05-18 13:31:15
208.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Anyone know of A. Perez's fielding at AAA at 3B?
2005-05-18 13:31:17
209.   Jon Weisman
Khalil Greene has two three-run homers in the first three innings for San Diego.
2005-05-18 13:33:00
210.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Jeff's almost out of it. Just get the pitcher out... Weaver has a bad habit sometimes of losing concentration in spots like this.

WWSH

2005-05-18 13:33:15
211.   Christina
Great - I finally get a chance to start watching Gameday during work and log on here, and Weaver's making me nervous...if he can't get the pitcher out, of all people, here, he needs to be pulled.
2005-05-18 13:33:33
212.   Steve
GRABOWSKI PRINCIPLE! Beware all ye who enter here!
2005-05-18 13:33:44
213.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Groan The Braves walk all over us, and then roll over for the Padres. Arghhh...

WWSH

2005-05-18 13:34:00
214.   GoBears
Yeah, that Khalil kid is great.

Wow, what a terrible throw by Ledee - it looked like he had plenty of time to at least make it close. Good thing he's hitting, because he stinks out there.

2005-05-18 13:34:14
215.   Christina
Ugh.
2005-05-18 13:34:32
216.   Landonkk
Repko would have thrown him out.. I don't care how Ledee is doing at the plate, that will come back down to earth and his defense is horrid.
2005-05-18 13:34:40
217.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
No more comments from me. I jinxed it.

ARGGHHHH!!!!!!!

I'll shut up now.

WWSH

2005-05-18 13:34:41
218.   JSN
Nice throw Ledee.
2005-05-18 13:34:52
219.   oldbear
Weaver, what a joke... Cant even get the pitcher out.

How lucky can Jeff Weaver be? He's pitched almost 5 innings and has 0 strikeouts.

2005-05-18 13:34:53
220.   Icaros
I believe he's thrown a first pitch ball to every hitter this inning.
2005-05-18 13:35:12
221.   GoBears
Someone tell Vinnie that Juan Pierre is NOT a good hitter. Nah - this is more charming.
2005-05-18 13:35:47
222.   Steve
219 -- we'll be forced to see in the sixth, where he takes it back out there against the heart of the order.
2005-05-18 13:36:12
223.   regfairfield
Well, he is a carrer .309 hitter. That is pretty good.
2005-05-18 13:36:32
224.   oldbear
One good thing is out plate discipline is excellent today.

Beckett has 81 pitches through 4 IP. If we have a good 5th inning, we'll win this game. Gotta make him work.

2005-05-18 13:37:00
225.   Steve
He threw a first pitch called strike to Damion Easley -- then three straight off the plate until Easley popped up on a 3-1 count -- which is what makes him Damion Easley.
2005-05-18 13:37:01
226.   capdodger
That innning could have been far worse...
2005-05-18 13:37:58
227.   Christina
226 - true. A 1-run lead is certainly the farthest thing from insurmountable...
2005-05-18 13:38:44
228.   GoBears
I'd say that the negative assessments of Weaver constitute a good example of letting the ideal be the enemy of the good. Weaver is good. Better than average. Sometimes terrific. Even in this game, he's given up 1 run on 5 singles in 5 innings. If the Dodgers had 4-5 runs, we wouldn't even care about that 1 run. He's not an ace. That doesn't mean he sucks.
2005-05-18 13:39:29
229.   Fearing Blue
Steve, I just started reading your site. You are a bitter, bitter man, but very funny. Keep up the good work.
2005-05-18 13:39:33
230.   Im So Blue
Duaner up in the bullpen
2005-05-18 13:39:51
231.   oldbear
Good at bat by Izzy.

7 pitch walk. Beckett is closin in on 90 pitches.

2005-05-18 13:39:53
232.   Landonkk
Hee Seop Choi..

Sometimes it's just fun to say.

2005-05-18 13:39:55
233.   Marty
let's try the hit and run again. It can't fail every time...
2005-05-18 13:40:06
234.   GoBears
223: Adjust out the Coors Field inflation, consider his low walk rate, and what you have is a guy who is just barely serviceable.
2005-05-18 13:40:26
235.   regfairfield
Tracy might actually be paying attention to the game now.
2005-05-18 13:41:09
236.   Xeifrank
Weaver going to make the 6 1/3 Over/Under?

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 13:41:09
237.   Jon Weisman
I agree with 228. But I will say that anecdotally, I've observed a pattern where Weaver gives up runs in chunks. So it's not saying he sucks when I get nervous about him. Just that when he falters, he seems to falter big. But again, that's anecdotal on my part.
2005-05-18 13:41:18
238.   Landonkk
Wow.. this ump is not giving anything in the outside corner. Good for us.
2005-05-18 13:41:58
239.   GoBears
Hee
Seop
Choi
2005-05-18 13:42:14
240.   Steve
Now that was a professional at-bat.
2005-05-18 13:42:31
241.   oldbear
Good at bat by Choi. Now for Drew to come out of his slump.

Beckett is laboring.

2005-05-18 13:42:54
242.   Landonkk
Big AB for Drew.. A big hit here would be good for breaking out of his slump...

arrghh... 0-2

2005-05-18 13:42:54
243.   JSN
Time to earn your keep Drew.
2005-05-18 13:43:13
244.   Steve
So Drew swings at the first pitch garbage as a follow-up.
2005-05-18 13:43:33
245.   JSN
...or not. Maybe tomorrow.
2005-05-18 13:43:50
246.   GoBears
237: Yeah, especially after 110-115 pitches. He was brilliant in his last start until he was gassed. So yeah, have someone up in the 'pen when he gets up around 70-80 pitches, just to be prepared for a quick hook.
2005-05-18 13:43:57
247.   oldbear
Drew has to start finding the holes sometime. Come on Kent.
2005-05-18 13:44:01
248.   Jae
Should've bunted.
2005-05-18 13:44:02
249.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
96 pitches in 4-1/3 innings for Beckett.
2005-05-18 13:44:14
250.   JSN
I meant Friday. Thank you Kent!
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2005-05-18 13:44:16
251.   Landonkk
OK.. I think it's time for Drew to move to the 5 hole.

GO KENT!! Officially out of his mini slump !!

2005-05-18 13:44:21
252.   Im So Blue
I think Kent is officially out of his slump
2005-05-18 13:44:26
253.   GoBears
AWRIGHT!
2005-05-18 13:44:46
254.   the OZ
Deja Vu...
2005-05-18 13:44:57
255.   Christina
I was all "dammit Drew" because my Gameday was showing 2 outs, and then GD corrected itself. So suddenly I'm a lot less angry at Drew than I would be normally.

Plus, Kent just bailed his ass out! Whoo hoo!

2005-05-18 13:44:59
256.   oldbear
YES! Who says Choi is slow... Scored all the way 1st.

2-1 Dodgers!

2005-05-18 13:45:13
257.   Xeifrank
Double!!!!!!!

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 13:45:22
258.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Sweet!
What did the double look like? Gameday shows it at the LF wall.
2005-05-18 13:46:11
259.   oldbear
Leaving Beckett in is a mistake.
2005-05-18 13:46:59
260.   the OZ
On the radio, it sounded just like the Ellison play in the home opener..."Kent hits a line drive to left, and it gets by Cabrera!"
2005-05-18 13:47:04
261.   oldbear
Well that was garbage from Milton... show some patience.
2005-05-18 13:47:10
262.   regfairfield
It wasn't that hard for Choi to score. The double took a really bad bounce off the wall.
2005-05-18 13:47:40
263.   champion of choi
according to Vinny, "Beckett still got alot in the tank. We'll see...
2005-05-18 13:48:02
264.   Jon Weisman
One thing that has bothered me about the Dodger lineup - even when Drew was hitting - is having back-to-back lefties in the No. 2 and No. 3 spots. For this reason more than any other, I would consider making a lineup change there.
2005-05-18 13:48:16
265.   Xeifrank
Marlins have a terrible bullpen and they are probably tired from last night, so I'd think McKeon would go as long as he could with Becket.

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 13:48:23
266.   Steve
Cabrera played it like it was on fire, which didn't hurt.

Beckett is just raring back and firing -- he knows he's gone.

2005-05-18 13:48:50
267.   GoBears
256: I hadn't heard complaints about Choi's speed. I think he's like a lot of big guys - kinda slow getting started, but good cruising speed.

What's this - Beckett gets better after 96 pitches?!

2005-05-18 13:49:00
268.   oldbear
Damn... Our guys always quit fighting at the plate when we take a lead...
2005-05-18 13:49:28
269.   JSN
Leaving Beckett in seemed to work. Two Ks in a row.
2005-05-18 13:50:31
270.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Beckett has thrown 105 pitches through 5, but he's got the 7-8-9 hitters in the sixth. He'll stay in another inning.
2005-05-18 13:51:36
271.   Steve
105 pitches, and Beckett was just throwing as hard as he could. It didn't help that that was one of Bradley's "swing at anything that moves" ABs (he has them -- it's cool). I think he's very likely gone.
2005-05-18 13:51:54
272.   champion of choi
Choi towers over LoDuca
2005-05-18 13:52:05
273.   Icaros
Here we go...
2005-05-18 13:52:17
274.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Weaver, OTOH, faces the heart of Florida's order.
2005-05-18 13:52:20
275.   Steve
GRABOWSKI PRINCIPLE!
2005-05-18 13:52:21
276.   GoBears
Does that mitt-spike by Beckett in the dugout count against his pitch total? Looked like a fastball.
2005-05-18 13:52:34
277.   Blaine
well there goes that lead again
2005-05-18 13:52:36
278.   GoBears
Forget what I said - Weaver sucks.
2005-05-18 13:52:44
279.   champion of choi
Grabowski Principle ignored again
2005-05-18 13:52:49
280.   the OZ
I'd like to hear predictions on what the Dodgers record will be while Grabowski is in the "DL."

[Of course, I'd feel bad if he actually was legitimately injured, but the whole thing is fishy].

I'll say 9-4.

2005-05-18 13:52:51
281.   Xeifrank
Ouch!

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 13:52:55
282.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Krep.
2005-05-18 13:52:57
283.   Jon Weisman
I have to tell you, with the off day coming, I'd start emptying the pen before letting Weaver try to get through this.
2005-05-18 13:53:12
284.   Steve
The trick to Weaver is you can't be fooled by a pitch count
2005-05-18 13:53:16
285.   Icaros
He shall stay in, though, until the game is out of reach.
2005-05-18 13:53:25
286.   oldbear
Weaver not the luckiest pitcher anymore...
2005-05-18 13:53:28
287.   Jon Weisman
Aw, man - by the time I even got my message written, the damage was done.
2005-05-18 13:53:44
288.   Christina
Do we have anyone warming up in the bullpen yet?
2005-05-18 13:53:46
289.   Xeifrank
I'll say 6-7, assuming it's 13 games played.

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 13:54:05
290.   alex 7
I was just thinking this seems like one of those "smokejumper" innings...
2005-05-18 13:54:07
291.   Steve
GRABOWSKI PRINCIPLE!
2005-05-18 13:54:21
292.   oldbear
THere goes the lead, but if we cant score more 5 or 6 off the Marlins pen, we deserve to lose.
2005-05-18 13:54:25
293.   Icaros
Wake up, Tracy.
2005-05-18 13:54:26
294.   GoBears
Damn... Our guys always quit fighting at the plate when we take a lead...

Then again, they did score 14 runs last night.

Hey Jon, here's another anecdote for you.

2005-05-18 13:54:32
295.   Fearing Blue
#283: Indeed. Too late.
2005-05-18 13:54:35
296.   FirstMohican
I thought we had groundball pitchers...
2005-05-18 13:54:39
297.   Christina
Sure, now the visit to the mound.
2005-05-18 13:54:39
298.   champion of choi
what on earth was Ledee doing? we was doing a little jig on the warning track.
2005-05-18 13:54:45
299.   Xeifrank
How many homers in a row can they hit off of Weaver?

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 13:54:48
300.   Steve
Colborn's coming out! What do you want, Icaros?
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2005-05-18 13:54:53
301.   champion of choi
what on earth was Ledee doing? we was doing a little jig on the warning track.
2005-05-18 13:54:54
302.   Im So Blue
Vinny says it was a good pitch by Weaver, in a good location. It looked like a fly ball, and Ledee was circling under it but it just kept going...meanwhile, it's time to take Weaver out. What is Tracy waiting for?
2005-05-18 13:55:08
303.   FirstMohican
Okay he's gassed
2005-05-18 13:55:10
304.   scareduck
Steve: Grabowski Principle? Who walked?
2005-05-18 13:55:13
305.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
A bit late but...
"if this were the NBA, Grabowski would be put on injured reserve due to 'back spasms.'"
I prefer "knee patella tendinitis."
2005-05-18 13:55:24
306.   alex 7
well this is fun
2005-05-18 13:55:29
307.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
On an 0-2 pitch???
2005-05-18 13:55:29
308.   oldbear
TAKE HIM OUT...

Man I hate Weaver.. Who doesnt see these things coming?

When a pitcher goes the entire game without striking out one batter, you know he aint fooling anyone.

I hate Weaver and Tracy.

2005-05-18 13:55:44
309.   GoBears
Ha! Did you see the look on Kent's face during that mound-conference? He was looking at Weaver with a "what the #(&*" sort of expression. Good stuff.
2005-05-18 13:55:48
310.   the OZ
Weaver is the Unanimous Champion of the 0-2 Homerun.
2005-05-18 13:55:56
311.   Marty
Colburn: How do you feel?
Weaver: I feel good
Colburn: Go get em then
2005-05-18 13:55:58
312.   Jon Weisman
304 -

It was the hit he allowed to Beckett.

2005-05-18 13:56:01
313.   scareduck
Enca*nar*cion again. Somebody kill Charlie Steiner.
2005-05-18 13:56:09
314.   Steve
He just hit Encarnacion, but Encarnacion was dumb enough to swing at it.
2005-05-18 13:56:50
315.   FirstMohican
Coaching visit to mound.

"Hey Weaves, yeah, sorry I'm late, I was in the john and Tracy was questioning himself in his sleep..."

2005-05-18 13:57:13
316.   Steve
Giving up a run-scoring hit to the pitcher triggers the Grabowski Principle.
2005-05-18 13:57:49
317.   oldbear
Our lack of hitting homers, and other team's homers are killing us.
2005-05-18 13:59:15
318.   Steve
At least this will all be the offense's fault in the paper tomorrow.

That fastball was 84.

2005-05-18 13:59:15
319.   oldbear
Another non-quality start from an LA Hurler...

But then again, Jeff Weaver is a #5 caliber starter.

2005-05-18 13:59:58
320.   Xeifrank
Weaver will be pinch hit for when his spot comes up next. With Grabowski on the DL who could it possibly be? :)

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 14:01:13
321.   JSN
Holy Crap.
2005-05-18 14:01:18
322.   Steve
Robles. Almost certainly Robles.

GRABOWSKI PRINCIPLE!

2005-05-18 14:01:30
323.   GoBears
Guh
2005-05-18 14:01:39
324.   scareduck
Tracy, it's time. It's past time.
2005-05-18 14:01:47
325.   Landonkk
FTJ! FTJ! FTJ! FTJ! What will Weaver say about Trace leaving him in this time?
2005-05-18 14:01:48
326.   Im So Blue
How many home runs does Weaver have to give up before Tracy wakes up?
2005-05-18 14:01:54
327.   oldbear
LOL!!!

Thanks. Tracy. Now the game really is out of reach.

2005-05-18 14:02:02
328.   Blaine
Wow! This is going to be out of control quickly. Monday just said Weaver has thrown some bad pitches this inning. Good analysis
2005-05-18 14:02:18
329.   Steve
Open Letter to Jim Tracy:

I would cancel that chat with the fans. Idiot.

Sincerely,

FJT

2005-05-18 14:02:18
330.   Marty
hmmm...maybe take him out now?
2005-05-18 14:02:12
331.   Christina
You would think that the fact every pitch in the strike zone was getting fouled off would be a clue of what would happen, but nooooo.
2005-05-18 14:02:26
332.   scareduck
oldbear: a gentle but firm BS to that comment.
2005-05-18 14:02:36
333.   GoBears
Hey, someone woke Tracy!
2005-05-18 14:02:45
334.   Xeifrank
Now pitching...

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 14:02:49
335.   Bob Timmermann
Stupid warm weather.
2005-05-18 14:03:05
336.   alex 7
I just realized Weaver is still in. Why? A comment one of you made earlier in the season has stuck with me:

What's the point of having a great bullpen if you don't use it?

2005-05-18 14:03:20
337.   Landonkk
Did I just read Weavers lips? I need Tivo at the office. Iswear he said "bout time".
2005-05-18 14:03:24
338.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
(Sadly shakes head)
2005-05-18 14:03:24
339.   Im So Blue
We suddenly went to commercial on TV after the double. Does that mean we're finally getting a new pitcher?
2005-05-18 14:03:41
340.   Steve
Giving up a homerun to Damian Easley put us in the rarified air of being in a DOUBLE GRABOWSKI PRINCIPLE situation. It would have been fun to see him left in just to see how bad it could have gotten. They might have lost the off day tomorrow batting around Bugs Bunny style.
2005-05-18 14:03:48
341.   Xeifrank
Is that Jim Tracy or his inflateable doll in the dugout watching this game?

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 14:04:07
342.   Fearing Blue
I can't stop laughing. At least Tracy is starting to provide comic relief with his managerial decisions.
2005-05-18 14:04:39
343.   champion of choi
In tomorrow's paper, Weaver will undoubtedly intimate that he should have been pulled in the 5th because it was hot and he was gassed.
2005-05-18 14:04:52
344.   Icaros
It's not like Weaver looked shaky in the previous inning or anything. Who could've guessed that he'd fall apart in the 6th?

What troubles me is when I read quotes from DePodesta about not watching the pitchers work. I really hope he doesn't miss how hopelessly lost his manager is.

2005-05-18 14:05:02
345.   Xeifrank
Weaver said "about time"?

Anyone confirm that?

Too funny if true.

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 14:05:19
346.   Marty
The gameday photo of Sanchez is frightening.
2005-05-18 14:06:02
347.   Denezin
I feel like we can just cut and paste our comments from the last Weaver outing.
2005-05-18 14:06:22
348.   Marty
But then again, so is Barnett''s
2005-05-18 14:06:58
349.   Xeifrank
Jim Tracy should be replaced with

A) A new manager
B) A laptop computer
C) A pile of rocks
D) The Hilton sisters
E) Who is Jim Tracy

2005-05-18 14:07:04
350.   Christina
Oh my God.

Will this inning never end?

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2005-05-18 14:07:10
351.   MSarg29
Marty - Good call. That picture is certainly scarier than a Paris Hilton movie.
2005-05-18 14:07:13
352.   Marty
sheesh. make that Beckett
2005-05-18 14:07:16
353.   oldbear
I hope 344 was sarcasm.

When you go almost 6 IP with 0 K's, you aint fooling anyone.

I've come to the realization we will not win a pennant with Jim Tracy as the skipper.

He's awful. Simply truly terrible.

2005-05-18 14:07:16
354.   scareduck
Steiner says Beckett was HBP, but Gameday says he walked. Can anybody watching the game tell me which is true?
2005-05-18 14:07:56
355.   champion of choi
somebody tell Sanchez to pull up his pants because there bell-bottomish and ridiculous. everyone should follow H.S. Choi's example.
2005-05-18 14:08:43
356.   Xeifrank
I think that baseball teams should be able to replace their manager during a game much like new pitchers are brought in and out of games. Instead of the manager walking to the mound and signaling to the bullpen for a new pitcher. The shortstop or team captain should be able to walk off the field into the dugout and signal for a new manager to come in.

vr

Xei

2005-05-18 14:08:51
357.   GoBears
See, Tracy brought Sanchez in because walking the pitcher and giving up a hit to Pierre is better than giving up 2 more HRs.
2005-05-18 14:08:56
358.   scareduck
346: you think that's bad, look at Ledee's headshot. He looks like the mutant pigboy run over by a Mack truck.
2005-05-18 14:08:59
359.   Im So Blue
Beckett walked
2005-05-18 14:09:08
360.   Landonkk
good lord. and here I was convinced we had a breakout game lastnight.
2005-05-18 14:09:13
361.   joekings
I'm going to blame this one on the pitching.....
2005-05-18 14:09:33
362.   Steve
THREE GRABOWSKI PRINCIPLES IN ONE INNING!
2005-05-18 14:09:38
363.   Marty
looks like we brought in the flame thrower rather than the smoke jumper.
2005-05-18 14:09:42
364.   scareduck
350: apparently not.
2005-05-18 14:10:16
365.   JT Dutch
... This is ridiculous.
2005-05-18 14:10:25
366.   alex 7
alrighty then, time to find something productive