Thompson pitched like a guy who was fighting for his life last night.

http://members.aol.com/scott724/twins/scott.html

I'm going to have a nice cold glass of urine to calm me down

Bob are you some kind of Philistine? Room temperature is the only acceptable way to enjoy your (or anyone else's) urine. That being said if there is a DT shirt Bob's quote has to be on it(small print) screw the box-score one.

Tough apprenticeship in the shaman field.

I feel better now. apologies to all.

that comment is so "this morning"

June 24, 1938

In a year when the Dodgers were more sideshow than serious contender, Brooklyn prevailed over St. Louis 5-2 in a game at Ebbets Field in a battle for sixth place. The Dodgers were now 25-34 and 11 games out of first and 1 ½ games behind the Cardinals for sixth.

Dodger pitcher Fred Fitzsimmons was the star of the day, pitching 8 strong innings and driving in 3 runs to lead Brooklyn. Fitzsimmons, a 36-year old knuckleballer, was 11-8 in 1938 for the Dodgers with a 3.02 ERA.

The Dodgers got on the scoreboard in the second inning. Second baseman Cookie Lavagetto walked and went to second on a single by center fielder Ernie Koy. Cardinals manager Frankie Frisch opted to walk shortstop Leo Durocher, who would bat just .219 in 1938, to load the bases for Fitzsimmons. But Fitzsimmons spoiled the plan by hitting a fly ball deep enough to left to score Lavagetto. (Sacrifice flies were not a statistic in 1938.)

The Cardinals tied the game in the fourth. Joe Medwick led off with a single but was thrown out trying to stretch by right fielder Kiki Cuyler. Don Padgett singled and Pepper Martin doubled to score Padgett.

In the bottom of the fourth, Dolph Camilli walked and Durocher singled Camilli to third on a hit-and-run. Fitzsimmons then lined a ball down the left field line for a 2-run double.

Brooklyn scored another run in the fifth when catcher Babe Phelps hit into a double play to score a runner from third. Phelps accounted for the fifth run in the 8th inning. He led off with a single and then stole second, one of only two steals on the season for Phelps, who was listed at 6'2", 225 lbs. With two outs, Koy got an infield single sending Phelps to third. Brooklyn then tried a double steal, but St. Louis catcher Herb Bremer, who was trying to throw the ball to the pitcher, bounced it off the mound and Phelps was able to score.

Martin and Don Gutteridge hit back-to-back doubles to start the 9th and manager Burleigh Grimes brought in Luke Hamlin to close out the game.

The 1938 Dodgers would finish 69-80 and in seventh place, 18 ½ games behind Chicago. 1938 was the first year for Larry MacPhail in the Dodgers front office. MacPhail introduced night ball to Ebbets Field (a 6-0 loss to Cincinnati on June 15, which was the second of Johnny Vander Meer's consecutive no-hitters). He also brought on Babe Ruth as a coach.

Ruth hoped that he would become the Dodgers manager, but Ruth's presence in the Dodgers coaching box was mostly decorative. Burleigh Grimes would be let go at the end of the year. And the Dodgers new manager would not be the home run king. It would be the .219 hitting shortstop. It was a fateful decision for the Dodgers. And a wise one.

Thanks to the New York Times, BaseballReference.com and Retrosheet

I'm going to have a nice cold glass of Plaschke to calm me down.

Jim Tracy puts the mental in fundamental.

That one made me laugh.

I mean, they managed to find a spot for him once before - I know, injuries and all that. But I could see the man with the "fastball that speed forgot" sneaking back in the lineup again - after all, this Dodger team has been afflicted by the injury bug all season, why believe it'll stop any time soon?

Jim Tracy: "Come in, ...., close the door. This is the toughest part of being a manager, but .... we're ....."

Please, kill me now...

Then we can brand him with the Mark of Mike Marshall.

Oh my lord.

Hence the apology. don't make me apologize again.

#19 I had to give preference to originality. I had heard the mental one before but laughed just the same.

I was afraid the other possibility was Drew going on the DL. Any word on his status?

"The work of Derek Thompson in the middle three innings was a difference-maker." -- Jim Tracy

well, now we have "the first" something to complain about with Depo. Bad move, no way around it.

34 - I'm willing to let 382 be the mark we try to exceed in non-game threads. What was the game thread record - 660? I seem to recall a Willie Mays element. Suffering Bruin would know.

Slams head into wall, reducing IQ by 80 points

Yes, I can see it now. It all makes perfect sense! How foolish of me not to have understood it before.

http://www.firejimtracy.com/?p=1037

"Darren Dreifort" = ... I don't even have to finish the joke.

I really, really wish someone would actually ask Depo why Erickson is still with the team.

Let's wish him well.

Beltre-lovers: I will bet you any amount of money that my contempt for DePodesta right now is higher than you can ever even dream of mustering. True, on the Tracy Contempt Chart, it still rates about a 7, but he's getting there like a lightning bolt.

"NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO"

I don't understand the" he is being sent down to rest theory". please expain. why can't he pitch again this weekend?

Erickson can atrophy in the bullpen because he is a disposable part. If he rusts out, who cares. Thompson has a future. Erickson has a past.

Three homers and three stolen bases for the Sox.

No sacrifices.

Dusty Baker ran up the white flag when he took out Derek Lee and put Enrique Wilson at first base.

Oh God.

why must erickson atrophy in the dodger bullpen? why can't he atrophy on his own living room couch, like the rest of us?

Strange days, indeed.

What kind of ball are they playing? Moneyball? Nope - 3 sb's. Smartball? Nope - 3 homers, no sacrifices.

Guess we'll have to come up with a new label.

Thompson has a future. Now, with the big club. He is needed. Just because Tracy didn't use him before doesn't mean he won't. Tracy hates Choi not Thompson.

Pitching in the bullpen before you can break into the starting rotation is ok. It used to happen all the time. Young pitchers will not die or get worse pitching a half season or season in the bullpen. Damn I was in such a good move

I'm going to the game tonight in anaheim. I'm going to the bullpen and splash erickson with some plashke. I hope it burns his eyes. I wonder if I have enough time to get some asparagus. Argggghhh

I'm sure Vegas will allow him to get better. works wonders for all are other pitchers there. (I know you were trying to help, Bob thanks)

It may be shorter than that now.

I'm just going from memory here.

Against Cliff Lee of Cleveland.

95. not that it matters, but i think it's wreak havoc.

I can think of many teams that could use a good lefty

I happen to be a fan of one those teams.

Sounds like he will fit right in

Unless you've eaten asparagus.

I'm stumped. All this time I thought Harvard was a place to get a good education. I guess that's off my kid's list now. My accountant will be happy.

I did read somewhere that someone wants Derek Thompson to pitch "regularly." Well, why not let him pitch here? Pitch regularly til he pitches himself off the team. I think we might be babying our prospects more than necessary.

What's the estimate on Odalis's return date? Won't his activation mark the end of Erickson's reign of terror? While the arguments that Thompson was sent down to (a) get "regular work" or (b) because he's part of a forthcoming deal are plausible (though maddening) justifications for Erickon's continued presence on the roster, is there any possible way he's not DFAd once OP returns?

But then, I've read post-game interviews on the sports pages since I learned how to read and haven't seen an interesting comment yet, so who am I to talk?

St. Louis Cardinals
Placed pitcher Randy Flores on the 15-day disabled list with an avulsed callus pad on his left foot;

Does "avulsed callus pad" mean that a big chunk of the bottom of Randy Flores foot fell off?

112 - it's his take on the stuff I don't care about, as well as the stuff I do care about, that makes it work, I think.

is the knee that's acting up his surgically repaired knee, or is it the other one? i thought the right knee was the one he had had surgery on, and the left knee was the one giving him trouble recently.

I'm putting the over/under at 5 on how many bases Figgins steals this weekend.

I think Orange County is close enough that Choi can summon his home cooking juices and get us at least one dinger provided he actually plays.

# 88 it is called winning baseball no matter how they try to spin it. You can bet the Big Hurt will not be bunting.

Sorry - it's Friday at 5 and I'm feeling fancy-free!

Why do you get so defensive when the topic of White Sox is brought up?

(Jon good thing you put the time of each post otherwise I would have no idea how long I was sleeping for.)

Did they DFA Erickson while I was out?

Oh, you mean typographically. Use asterisks around the word.

Look to the stars

Tommy John surgery
Lou Gehrig's disease
Bob Timmermann sleep

Tracy also said that Choi and A Perez would be in the lineup all weekend.

Honestly, my wife's work has season seats to the Angels. The seats are good. behind home plate but up 2 decks. (anything above home is cool by me.)

They all know that dodger tickets are mine. All mine. Can't go sat but goin on sunday.

I am the short white guy with blond hair and a dodger pullover. A 5'8 version of Brad Penny! Gut and all.

fanerman91- did u notice ginobli's nick name? I don't watch to much hoops but saw it last night and i thought it was funny: obi wan ginobli

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B08190NYA2000.htm

August 19, 2000

Check the bottom of the third.

#131 Lighten up, little Tom saved the world from the Libyan Air Force, raced NASCAR, and removed Jack Nicholson from his USMC wall in Gitmo, Cuba. Besides, if Letterman actually let Cruise look like a wingnut, he wouldn't come back to hype his next Mission Impossible movie, a horrible fate for us all.

#132 You think Scott wooed Lisa by crooning a version of "You've Lost that Loving Feeling? Way more info than I need to know.

Poor Thompson, first Erickson screws him out of a win, then screws him out of a roster spot.

Sorry, I'll shut up about Cruise now.

Now a "dirt nap" that is something altogether diffrent. A few here would give Erickson the dirt nap.

While I might have been forced to work (work, work, work)
I have an awful lot of sleeping to do.

Thank you.

Ratt you say that like its a bad thing.

Gizmodo does a humerous turn on the e-meter
http://tinyurl.com/c2kb7

Eric Gagne underwent surgery today and received the good news that his ligament was not actually torn, meaning his recovery time will be more like six months instead of a year.

This is great news for Gagne and the Dodgers. Manager Jim Tracy spoke about it on Xtra Sports 570 AM tonight, and he had scar tissue removed and some repair work done to the ligament in his right elbow. He should be ready to go next year and we'll have more details as we get them

Before the movie, I saw A Few Good Men downtown, at the Ahmanson I think, with Michael O'Keefe in Tom's part. Cue Caddyshack debate.

Goes to show what a doctor once told me is true. Medical imaging, is, at this point, a primitive technology. You might as well call an MRI a "blur-o-scope," this doc said. You have to go inside to really see what's what.

Literally. Anybody will do.

171 what is a "Blanket party" I thought it was a "code red" and a build up of lactic acid. I bet Erickson's away uniform is pressed nicly and still in his locker.

Born on the Fourth of July, Color of Money. There are quite a few more, I'd bet.

We are like the mob saying "Give us Barabbas!"

Are you suggesting that the ESPN announcers might be wrong? Actually, the mistake is mine. I think they said it had never happened in the NL. But the game is being played in Yankee Stadium so I don't know how you file that. My mind is still reeling at the concept that ESPN announcers aren't always right.

Not gonna go there.

And it happened on July 1, 1962 when the White Sox got three in one inning against Cleveland.

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Kenny Loggins soundtrack,and Katie Holmes in the Kelly McGiness role are optional. Val Kilmer can play a dual role of Iceman, and the fat version of Jim Morrison.

Us:

Izturis (SS)
Perez (3B)
Werth (LF)
Kent (2B)
Saenz (DH)
Choi (1B)
Phillips (C)
Ross (RF)
Repko (CF)

Weaver (P)

Them:

Figgins (CF)
Erstad (1B)
Guerrero (RF)
Anderson (LF)
B. Molina (C)
McPherson (3B)
DaVanon (DH)
Cabrera (SS)
Kennedy (2B)

Lackey (P)

Cody Ross is starting? Instead of Grabowski?

Myself, I have no use for him. If he had replaced Erickson, he would have been my hero. Now, he's just another AAA bum who doesn't belong here.

http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050624&content_id=1102597&vkey=news_la&fext=.jsp&c_id=la

I just woke-up from a half-hour Timmermann and need to go Plaschke before the game starts.

I imagine that later I'll have to take a Tracy.

By the way, people who think Eyes Wide Shut is a bad movie are as crazy as a pack of Scientologists.

Let's not forget "Far and Away" too. That was terrible.

to be fair it was pre-Top Gun (which is an awful movie in its own right)

Why does that matter? It was post Risky Business.

212 - Couldn't disagree more. Oh well, we still have the Dodgers.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled "we can't get a hit with a runner in scoring position".

I'm also one of the few passionate EWS defenders. The "catatonic" Cruise and Kidman performances fit perfectly within Kubrick's trancelike atmosphere -- it's a dream movie, not an "erotic thriller" like many had been expecting.

Anyway...nice play, Kent.

The Rockies lead the Royals 6-2!

Tigers and DBacks are scoreless.

Padres are up 2-0 on the Ms.

I wonder if he got a dish before he died.

Maybe that's it. I blame Cruise for causing good directors to make awful movies. Kubrick, Crowe...Bruckheimer? Even Magnolia was cruddy compared with Boogie Nights.

Cody Ross' picture on Gameday has a Cruise-ish smile. Throw him back.

I'm pretty surprised that Vin could remember that even was a guy like that who played a grand total of 19 games for the Dodgers 44 years ago.

Oh, and in similarly important matters, the A's are up on the Hated Ones 1-0.

We're friends now, Vic.

I, too, love all PT Anderson films, and Wes Anderson films as well. The Reilly screening was cool. My lady friend won the tickets from KCRW.

Great, Cody Ross mirrors Jason Repko in his first at-bat.

I missed the Ross at-bat...would I be correct in assuming that it was scrappy as hell?

Hint: Jack Fimple is not one of them.

246 - I found Zissou much better the second time around (on DVD this time). Its only flaw to me is that so much is going on it seems a little rushed. Maybe an extra 10-15 minutes would let the emotional parts breathe more.

"And then we discussed the theater and men's fashions...OH MY GOD!"

Why do teams insist on playing guys on their first day up from the minor leagues? And does it ever work out? Granted, I can see that in some situations someone is brought up to fill a hole at the last minute, but Ross was brought up to replace a pitcher. It's not like Grabowski is the best player ever or anything, but it's always driven me crazy that people HAVE to play on their first day in the majors.

Really, I haven't seen enough Spaghettis to make such a declaration. But if it has Ennio Morricone on music, I'm there.

awesome - A Clockwork Orange, Dr. Strangelove
very good - The Shining
Good - Full Metal Jacket, Eyes Wide Shut
didn't care for - 2001 (blasphemy I know, it just seemed boring)

P.T. Anderson:
awesome - Boogie Nights, Punch-Drunk Love
good - Magnolia

Wes Anderson:
awesome - Royal Tenenbaums
very good - Rushmore, Bottle Rocket
okay - Life Aquatic (watched it the other day, mildly entertaining but a bit jumbled)

There, I've said my peace

And he started in Brooklyn in 1957.

I guess the idea is to get a quick read on how good or bad the guy is right away.

I didn't see the sign but I saw it in an earlier game. Why do you ask me?

I don't know. I really loved it anyway.

Clark wrote the book with Kubrick as or right before the film was being made, so they're really close.

Any David Lynch fans out there? Mulholland Drive is one of my favorite movies and The Elephant Man was a pleasant surprise as well. Blue Velvet was fairly disappointing though.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=7537

Repko's lack of scrappiness in that at-bat is truly heartbreaking...

this reminded me of the theory that used to surround UCLA basketball surrounding Steve Lavin. many times i thought mike montgomery, lute olson and others must be slipping UCLA some money to keep Lavin around and keep UCLA from assuming its rightful place atop the Pac-10 conference. anyone else ever think about that? well, it was a nice trip down memory lane for me.

can we get a pool going regarding the date of Erickson's removal from the organization?

http://tinyurl.com/a7k87

Elephant Man was great. Dune was a trip...worth watching.

I remember a few years back Manny Ramirez hit one that high. The infielders couldn't catch it either.

That must have been up for 7 seconds.

``He was so excited,'' Jobe said during a conference call before the Dodgers played the Los Angeles Angels. ``I mean, he was still pretty much asleep, but he was awake enough to understand it. He just smiled and put his fist up in the air.''

I also think that just about any fielder would have a hard time catching McPherson's popup.

*Engage Jeff Weaver meltdown sequence...

Izturis was not moving, and the ball bounced out of his glove. Yes, that was originally Perez's ball, he certainly wasn't hovering around the area for fun.

How is that Perez's ball if it went right to Izturis? The only time the third baseman has priority over the SS is on a grounder to the hole, otherwise the SS is the captain of that side of the infield.

btw, speaking of pissed off, if orlando cabrera was making fun of izturis for missing that popup, i bet izzy's gotta be plenty pissed himself.

But to put things more simply...

E6

it was an obscenely high popup, and hung in the air for more than 7 seconds. i'm sure it did quite a bit of drifting before it made its way down. it was perez' off the bat, but after drifting around, perez lost it and it went to izturis. izturis had taken his eye off it to check perez, and at the last second he realized the ball was drifting his way and he just barely missed, and it fell right through his glove.

Yes, that would most definately save the season.

2-1 Diamondbacks now.

Or maybe they can hit a 3-run home run.

Yankees president Randy Levine had harsh words for the Dodgers after the deal's collapse.

"The Dodgers reneged on the deal that was agreed to last Friday, unequivocally and with no contingencies except for a window for contract extensions and physicals," Levine said. "For some reason, the Dodgers over the weekend started to backpedal. Why they would break their word is only something they can answer. It sure is disappointing, and we'll have to think long and hard before ever doing business with the Dodgers again."

Preach it, brother!

Randy Levine is the Yankee President in Charge of Bluster.

We could have had two Olneys!

Please...

"Follow the prospects."

[takes another drag]

If I wrote that in the Dodgers 200 page prospectus given to potential investors (McCourt is trying to defer costs by selling a portion of the team). They have a long term plan which accounts for revenues for the next 10 years. In this account, which Im sure Telemachos and Icaros know all about, the plan calls for the payroll to go down another 5-10 million next year, before gradually increasing back up based on the revenue going up.

371- U can make stuff up, and presume to deserve respect when you have anonymity and no evidence to support any assertion.

i love agitating the Depo lovers, because their undying affection for him and hatred for JT annoys the hell out of me.

It shouldn't be that hard to treat each other with respect. It does not minimize your ability to make a point. I realize some people enjoy the sniping, but it really isn't worth it. And I would appreciate not having to keep asking for it.

Stubbs, your views are welcome here. Please accept that they are. If your purpose here is to agitate, however, you are absoutely in the wrong place.

L. Ron Hubbard himself could come up with 800 reasons why Erickson is still on the roster, and I would still hate DePodesta with the blinding heat of 1,000 suns.

All hail Scott Erickson!

You know what?

We'll just stick with your metaphor.

Strawmen burn easily.

A very 2003ish performance.

This does not qualify as a Weaver collapse.

Tom Niedenfuer?

The overs will likely win.

Was that "We want Barabbas" comment a reference to "24 Hour Party People?"

I wish we could've gotten a look at Cody Ross' arm.

Please get Molina to hit the ball on the ground.

Should have gone with Bocachica.

By the way, the correct answer, I think, to what would have happened on that play, is Beltre would have been smart enough not to call for it in the first place, because it appears it was never Perez's ball. But Izturis forgot that Perez is Darth Offerman, and trusted him. Bad move also.

Yeah, I know that. It's just that, in "24 Hour Party People," there's a scene where one character tells another that the worst conceivable name for a rock band is "Barabbas," because of the inevibility of the following chant: "Who do we want?" "Barabbas." "When do we want 'em?" "Now."

Now, we should get to see somebody like Esteban Yan in the 9th! We could get a gift run!

Of course, shutouts make a lot of things work.

Those Brewers are now the Baltimore Orioles.

The DBacks are starting to back into the race again.

That phrasing is intentional.

AB #1: 9 pitch K
AB #2: 8 pitch BB
AB #3: 3 pitch line drive out to CF
AB #4: 8 pitch K

Though, the average of 7 pitches / AB is very nice.

We all remember the heyday of Roger Cedeno in L.A.

Don't we?

I saw him hit a home run against the Brewers on Fan Appreciation Day in 1999 I think.

Mariner hitters are wearing out the padre outfielders, hitting all the deep spots in Petco.

Don't get a big head about it, though. One word about Choi that doesn't meet my standards and I'll turn on you like an inside fastball. An Erickson inside fastball.

Rick Short has reddish hair and freckles.

http://tinyurl.com/7z999

In other news, Vero Beach won 16 - 0. Our prospects on that team haven't been hitting much, so it's nice to see the team break out the good bats for a night.

stubbs. wow. i'd say deshields. definetly delino.

http://tinyurl.com/ajh9t

The nature of pitching makes it hard for me to believe that there is any way to NOT have an injury from some type of overuse.

It's probably an overuse injury. I'm starting to wonder if every pitcher, no matter who it is, will hav to suffer at least one career threatening injury before they hang 'em up. I think it's a prerequisite of the position.

I guess that's the $64,000 Question.

Also had a dislocated elbow which sawed through most of my ligaments and tendons in my left elbow. Healed fine, though. Is listening to people talk about their injuries akin to being forced their vacation slides?

Don't ask me questions about contracts or team ownership issues. I really don't know squat there. Frank McCourt probably knows more. Which is damning McCourt with faint praise.

But I've almost memorized the name of every Dodgers manager. Helps that there were only three from 1951 through midway of 1996.

While many disagree with Carroll, I think he knows more about this than most of us here.

It must hurt to have to lie into the cameras because you are too classy to cut down a fellow teammate. Especially one who isn't above dissing the rest of the team himself.

Not a good way to make friends in the majors.

If Bradley and Drew come back strong, if the starting pitching stays at its current level, if the bats of Choi, Izturis and Werth start to get hits again, and we creep into view of San Diego, DePodesta will make a worthy trade and also bring up guys who can win like DT if there's room for him. Remember, we have $19 million to spend (heh).

Otherwise, they're probably thinking he benefits from the use pattern he'll be able to follow in AAA, rather than what's available here.