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Celebrate 1955
2005-08-28 08:38
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Today's Game

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2005-08-28 10:35:28
1.   Bob Timmermann
Because of the thread title, I will wait a few posts until I put up today RDGC, which isn't for 1955.

But it may be hopeful anyway.

2005-08-28 11:10:46
2.   Bob Timmermann
Special commemorative Dodger game callback:

August 28, 1955

The NY Times ran two stories in its Monday sports section celebrating two young Dodger hurlers who had thrown back to back great games. One was the story of Sunday's game reporting the Dodgers 6-1 win over the Cardinals at Ebbets Field. Rookie Karl Spooner went the distance giving up just six hits, one of them a home run to Rip Repulski. Gil Hodges and Roy Campanella homered for the Dodgers. The Dodgers were now 82-45 and 11 1/2 games ahead of Milwaukee. The magic number for the Dodgers was 15.

But there was a bigger story about Saturday's game. The Dodgers had defeated Cincinnati (the series ended on a Saturday) 7-0 behind a 2-hit shutout from an even younger rookie than Spooner: Sanford (Sandy) Koufax. Dodger fans were very interested to see if their bonus baby would pay off.

2005-08-28 12:16:06
3.   Bob Timmermann
Random Dodger game callback

August 28, 1971

The remnants of Hurricane Doria forced the Dodgers to play a doubleheader in New York and it was a disaster as the Mets rocked the Dodgers early in the first game to win 9-2 and then rallied late to win the nightcap 2-1. The Dodgers fell to 69-63 and 7 ½ games behind first place San Francisco and in danger of falling out of the race.

In the opener, Claude Osteen allowed the first six Mets to reach base and manager Walter Alston pulled him in favor of Joe Moeller. But all six eventually came around to score.

It only got worse for the Dodgers. Donn Clendenon hit a 2-run home run in the second. Cleon Jones doubled home one more run. The Dodgers managed only a sacrifice fly from Bobby Valentine and a home run by Willie Davis against Tom Seaver, who went the distance to run his career record against the Dodgers to 11-2. (The Dodgers would improve against Seaver later in his career and he would finish with a 22-22 record against the Dodgers.)

In the nightcap, Don Sutton and Gary Gentry had a pitchers' duel. The game was scoreless until the 8th. Catcher Duke Sims doubled and Valentine ran for him. One out later, pinch hitter Tom Haller singled home Valentine with the first run of the game.

Jim Brewer came into relieve in the 8th and retired the first two Mets. But Duffy Dyer doubled. Then pinch hitter Tommy Agee singled home Dyer to tie the game.

The Dodgers could not score against Tug McGraw in the top of the 9th. And in the bottom of the 9th, Brewer surrendered a two-out homer to Cleon Jones to lose the game, 2-1.

The Dodgers would lose the third game of the series to the Mets and fall 8 ½ games back. But the Dodgers then got hot and won 13 of 15 to pull within 1 game of the Giants. The hot streak included a bench-clearing brawl in a game on September 13 in San Francisco, which saw Juan Marital, Bill Buckner, Maury Wills and Jerry Johnson ejected. But they could get no closer and lost the division by one game with a record of 89-73.

Richie (as he was called in 1971) Allen was the Dodgers offensive leader in 1971. In his lone season with the Dodgers, he batted .295 with 23 home runs and an OBP of .395. Allen split time between left field and third base. But Allen was not welcomed back in 1972 and he was traded to the Chicago White Sox in the off-season for Tommy John.

Third base was a problem area for the Dodgers all season. Allen committed 15 errors in 67 games. Steve Garvey made 14 errors in 79 games at third base. Valentine made 7 errors in 24 games at the position.

The pitching ace was Al Downing who had been acquired in the off-season for Andy Kosco. Downing would go 20-9 with a 2.68 ERA. Sutton went 17-12 with a 2.54 ERA. Brewer had a solid year out of the bullpen with a 6-5 record, 22 saves and a 1.88 ERA.

For some Dodgers fans, like this one, 1971 was the first look at a pennant race. And the first time that a young boy growing up in the San Fernando Valley realized that the San Francisco Giants were the embodiment of evil.

Thanks to the Los Angeles Times, BaseballReference.com and Retrosheet

2005-08-28 12:27:00
4.   Bob Timmermann
Going for the cycle:

Taveras
Palmeiro
Ensberg
Berkman
Lamb
Vizcaino
Bruntlett
Ausmus
Clemens

vs.

Werth (!!)
Robles
Kent
Ledee (!!)
Phillips (!?!?)
Cruz
Navarro
Edwards (?????)
Weaver

2005-08-28 12:28:15
5.   King of the Hobos
Today's special's line up:

CF Werth
SS Robles
2B Kent
LF Ledee
1B Phillips (blah)
RF Cruz
C Navarro
3B Edwards (again, blah)
P Weaver

vs

CF Taveras
LF Palmeiro
3B Ensberg
RF Berkman
1B Lamb
2B Vizcaino
SS Bruntlett
C Ausmus
P Clemens

2005-08-28 12:32:05
6.   Bob Timmermann
Still got the cycle by a 75 seconds!
2005-08-28 12:33:58
7.   bokonon42
I think I can explain this: Doesn't Werth lead the team in stolen bases? There's your lead-off man.
2005-08-28 12:37:54
8.   Bob Timmermann
Werth is tied with Perez for the team lead with 10 steals. The team has 50 overall.

Jason Grabowski has more steals than Oscar Robles.

2005-08-28 12:39:37
9.   Odysseus
Whatever you do Tracy, don't start Perez, who hits well against RHP, and started everything off yesterday. Perez should be playing 3B and leading off.

In conclusion, I hate Jim Tracy

2005-08-28 12:39:49
10.   Bob Timmermann
So who will get more applause in the pregame introductions: Lasorda or Koufax?
2005-08-28 12:43:30
11.   Odysseus
sounds like Lasorda...
2005-08-28 12:45:12
12.   Bob Timmermann
Clem Labine looks way younger than everybody else. He's got Ronald Reagan's hair color! He's 79! He should look like the other guys!

Roger Craig is smart enough to wear a hat.

2005-08-28 12:47:12
13.   Odysseus
The pitching on the 55 team was unreal
2005-08-28 12:49:43
14.   Bob Timmermann
The team ERA was 3.68. The league ERA was 4.04 in 1955. But the team scored 857 runs. The next best in the NL was 761. The team hit 201 home runs.
2005-08-28 12:52:27
15.   Bob Timmermann
I think Podres can be our LOOGY. He looks like has a lot of zip left in his arm!
2005-08-28 12:52:55
16.   King of the Hobos
Quick, let's resign Podres, that pitch was nasty =P
2005-08-28 12:55:24
17.   HomeDePo
werth was a 20/20 guy wth toronto
2005-08-28 12:56:21
18.   Jim Hitchcock
Curacao pitcher can't find the plate. Go 'Ewa.
2005-08-28 12:56:38
19.   Odysseus
A man of many talents
2005-08-28 12:56:52
20.   Bob Timmermann
Is Koufax wearing a tie underneath his jersey?

And can we have a harmonica duel between Erskine and Musial? I wonder if it would be better than how Erskine fared against Musial at the plate. Reputation (although detailed splits aren't available) is that Musial killed the Dodgers and Brooklyn fans gave him the nickname "The Man."

2005-08-28 12:59:00
21.   Odysseus
Brent Musburger AND Harold Reynolds are doing the game? The apocolypse is upon us
2005-08-28 12:59:03
22.   jasonungar05
14those are some amazing numbers, Bob
2005-08-28 12:59:28
23.   oldbear
Edwards over AP?
Phillips over Choi?

I dont know. I kinda like Werth leading off in sort of a "lets see if it might work" kind of way.

Jason Phillips doesnt deserve time over Choi. And Edwards definnitely doesnt over AP.

2005-08-28 12:59:42
24.   Jim Hitchcock
Curacao pitcher replaced. Bases loaded for 'Ewa, no outs, bottom of the first.
2005-08-28 12:59:42
25.   Bob Timmermann
Hey, you can't walk off the island, can you?

No matter which island it may be.

2005-08-28 13:01:11
26.   Odysseus
Must be time for grainy black and white TV! I'll take that over Musburger and Reynolds any day
2005-08-28 13:01:55
27.   Bob Timmermann
Mike Edwards is 2 for 3 against Clemens!

That's about as good as any active Dodger is against Clemens.

2005-08-28 13:02:36
28.   Odysseus
It looks like they just made it black and white. It's not grainy and Vin doesn't sound like he's in a wind tunnel. I think this "time machine" is malfunctioning.
2005-08-28 13:04:28
29.   Bob Timmermann
I don't think the audio originally was scratchy in 1955. It just sounds that way when he hear it now because the kinescopes have degraded.
2005-08-28 13:04:36
30.   Odysseus
27 the scary thing is that those were probably Jim Tracy's exact thoughts. Too bad he'll probably be 2 for 7 after today
2005-08-28 13:05:30
31.   Odysseus
that is probably true, but I don't think the video quality was this good.
2005-08-28 13:05:43
32.   Bob Timmermann
Since Edwards is batting 8th, he'll be 2 for 6.
2005-08-28 13:07:15
33.   oldbear
27. Yeah wouldnt starting out 2-3 pretty much guarantee a player to end up 2-7 against Clemens?

I'm digging Werth leading off though. Sees a lot of pitches, has at least a little pop.

If Weaver doensnt implode we might by dumb luck score a few runs today.

2005-08-28 13:07:48
34.   Jim Hitchcock
Curacao RP gets three quick outs, 2 by K. Is immediately swarmed by Dodger scouts, who wrestle him to the ground, offering him a pen.
2005-08-28 13:08:40
35.   Bob Timmermann
33
I don't Edwards will bat four times in the game.
2005-08-28 13:10:36
36.   oldbear
Over/Under on Jeff Weaver Home Runs allowed is 1.5

What do you got?

I have the over. I like Berkman and Lamb to go deep off Weaver.

2005-08-28 13:10:47
37.   Bob Timmermann
The Angels are down to Tampa Bay 2-1 in the 8th and if they lose and Oakland wins (ahead 10-2 in Baltimore), the Angels will fall out of first place AND a playoff spot.
2005-08-28 13:12:00
38.   Bob Timmermann
They should have vintage commercials for Schaefer Beer, Bulova watches and perhaps Abe Stark's.

Maybe even Old Gold cigarettes.

2005-08-28 13:12:14
39.   King of the Hobos
1962 Weaver looked pretty good, let's hope all the Weavers look that good today.
2005-08-28 13:12:14
40.   bokonon42
I can't wait for the celebration of the '81 team. They can black out three-quarters of the screen to give us the experience of really having a 13 inch television.
2005-08-28 13:12:26
41.   oldbear
Weaver with an 8 pitch 1st inning. And Steve's curse on the A's might be lifted. They are on their way to their 5th straight victory. Pounding the Orioles yet again.
2005-08-28 13:13:07
42.   King of the Hobos
40 What if we already have a 13 inch?
2005-08-28 13:14:32
43.   Bob Timmermann
Rockies score in the first at San Diego.
2005-08-28 13:15:18
44.   Bob Timmermann
I suppose for me the effect of the vintage TV is diminished since I'm using PIP to watch the LLWS.
2005-08-28 13:16:53
45.   Linkmeister
'Ewa Beach not scoring after a bases loaded no outs situation is reminiscent of some other team we've mentioned here before.
2005-08-28 13:17:07
46.   oldbear
I really hate when Kent swings at the 1st pitch.
2005-08-28 13:17:27
47.   Marty
Ya know, I really like this idea of doing the game like they did in 1955. Makes me think that may have been part of the reason it was so special to be at the stadium because you good see it as it really was. All that said, I wish Clemens wasn't the one pitching today. I'd like to see him via the modern technology.
2005-08-28 13:18:20
48.   Uncle Miltie
Nice at bat Kent. Nice lineup Tracy. Our leadoff hitter has a .330 OBP and strikes out almost 40 % of the time. Clemens will get all the calls.
2005-08-28 13:18:26
49.   King of the Hobos
47 Assuming he goes past the 5ht inning (I think), you will
2005-08-28 13:19:34
50.   regfairfield
I thought something was wrong with my TV when I turned the game on.

Then I thought that the entire cable system was screwed up when I tried it on my other TV.

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2005-08-28 13:20:29
51.   Bob Timmermann
My parents had a B&W TV until the late 1970s. When they first took me to Dodger Stadium in 1971, I didn't know the Dodgers had red numerals on the front of the uniform.
2005-08-28 13:20:59
52.   regfairfield
48 - If you grade on a curve, Werth is an excellent leadoff man.
2005-08-28 13:21:26
53.   Marty
Ha! Vin mentioned the Sports Ticker wire service. That's still a much relied upon service in the Times sports department, in fact any sports department I've ever been in.
2005-08-28 13:22:05
54.   Uncle Miltie
The Astros announcer just said that Weaver doesn't make enough starts to be a workhouse. Weaver is a 220 IP pitcher, which I would consider a workhorse.
2005-08-28 13:22:23
55.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Minor league team I worked for in the early 90s still used the Ticker.
2005-08-28 13:22:31
56.   Marty
My family didn't get their first color TV til 1977. The much loved Sony Trinitron.
2005-08-28 13:23:07
57.   Bob Timmermann
I think Vin might have been talking about a "ticker" with a lower case t. Didn't Western Union provide all the out of town scores for a very long time?
2005-08-28 13:23:13
58.   King of the Hobos
54 Is he suppose to start every 4 days now? Has he missed a start all year?
2005-08-28 13:23:16
59.   Marty
55 I get calls to this day if the Ticker is down.
2005-08-28 13:24:19
60.   Bob Timmermann
Klesko RBI single ties it up down south.
2005-08-28 13:24:23
61.   Odysseus
uh...how many starts has he missed this year? If any. Idiot announcer.
2005-08-28 13:24:54
62.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Of course, MLB.TV is showing the Astros feed, so the cool effects are lost on me.
2005-08-28 13:25:10
63.   Linkmeister
WU used to provide tickers all the way through 1975, at least. Les Keiter used to do recreations of Islanders games with the WU Ticker as a source through that year.
2005-08-28 13:25:11
64.   Tommy Naccarato
The Black & White is pretty cool!
2005-08-28 13:26:09
65.   Bob Timmermann
62
Go back in time and have your DNA altered so you have inherited colorblindness!
2005-08-28 13:26:17
66.   Jim Hitchcock
In 1955, you would have had a tough time using your MasterCard at Dodger Stadium.
2005-08-28 13:26:47
67.   Bob Timmermann
I doubt the residents of Chavez Ravine in 1955 took credit cards.
2005-08-28 13:27:43
68.   Bob Timmermann
Tampa Bay 2, Angels 1

The horror!

2005-08-28 13:27:46
69.   oldbear
How bad must these Astros hitters be, to put this poor of offensive performance and play in Minute Made Park?
2005-08-28 13:27:53
70.   HomeDePo
would not want to face clemens. good batter... better than ausmus
2005-08-28 13:27:53
71.   King of the Hobos
Weaver likes giving homers to pitchers...
2005-08-28 13:28:01
72.   Tommy Naccarato
Reminds me of the days of Curt Gowdy on NBC's Game of the Week.

Now for you youngsters, for 10 points who was Gowdy's announcing partner?

2005-08-28 13:29:01
73.   Odysseus
Did the residents of Chavez Ravine at least serve garlic fries?
2005-08-28 13:29:12
74.   Bob Timmermann
Kurt Gowdy worked with Tony Kubek in my day. I think he started off with Pee Wee Reese.

Jim Simpson and Sandy Koufax would work the backup game. Koufax was not a great announcer.

2005-08-28 13:29:27
75.   Jim Hitchcock
67 - Good point :)
2005-08-28 13:30:04
76.   HomeDePo
71 - and Grand Slams to everybody
2005-08-28 13:30:04
77.   Marty
Tony Kubek. I hated both of them
2005-08-28 13:30:05
78.   Uncle Miltie
Izturis to the DL, Aybar has been recalled
2005-08-28 13:30:06
79.   HomeDePo
71 - and Grand Slams to everybody
2005-08-28 13:30:18
80.   Bob Timmermann
'Ewa Beach 1, Curacao 0 after 2!
2005-08-28 13:30:25
81.   oldbear
Hopefully the bottom of the Astros order used up all their hits.
2005-08-28 13:30:30
82.   SMY
This lineup is ridiculous. Lucky for us Clemens typically only gets 1-2 runs scored for him per game.
2005-08-28 13:30:30
83.   Jim Hitchcock
How did 'Ewa get the run, Bob?
2005-08-28 13:30:37
84.   Marty
Bob, as usual, beat me to it.
2005-08-28 13:30:52
85.   Odysseus
69 believe it or not Minute Maid is playing as a pitchers' park this year. Although that might have more to do with the three extremely good starters and anemic hitting the Stros have, but still
2005-08-28 13:31:38
86.   oldbear
78. Cool. I hope Tracy puts Aybar right in. People have said he's just like Antonio Perez but with a better glove.
2005-08-28 13:31:43
87.   Tommy Naccarato
Bob, It would be nice for once in a while to allow these guys a chance to answer! :)

But your like always, correct. Personally, Koufax could never do any wrong or bad

2005-08-28 13:31:55
88.   Brendan
how long is the Black and white, no camera coverage supposed to last???I'm officially annoyed and will become angry soon. this might turn into a great pitcher's duel and I can't enjoy it.
2005-08-28 13:32:43
89.   Bob Timmermann
You can get a spreadsheet of all the announcers (that people know about) from 1921-2003 in baseball at

http://tinyurl.com/dxuzt

It's a really big list.

You can note how the Dodgers don't change much.

2005-08-28 13:32:51
90.   regfairfield
86 - That seems to be a case for Tracy not to play him.
2005-08-28 13:32:58
91.   King of the Hobos
78 Awesome. I can handle Aybar over Perez, but not Edwards or Valentin.

Clemens looks like normal Clemens unfortunately

2005-08-28 13:33:17
92.   Marty
Rick Monday needs an egg timer that shocks him when its through.
2005-08-28 13:33:57
93.   Brendan
In 2004 you had a tough time using your Master Card at dodger stadium
2005-08-28 13:34:17
94.   King of the Hobos
I had no idea Taveras made the catch, looked like a homer for all I knew. I sure take today's technology for granted
2005-08-28 13:34:25
95.   Marty
87 I worshipped Koufax. But even I could tell he was lousy at announcing.
2005-08-28 13:34:28
96.   Tommy Naccarato
I didn't care for them but watched them everywek simply because it was baseball.

They were both so Yankees and Orioles oriented. Everything was Earl Weaver this or Micky Mantle that....Not exactly the best sort of commentary for a Dodger fanatic youth.

However, Gowdy's voice is legendary to me.

2005-08-28 13:35:13
97.   Bob Timmermann
Sorry, Tommy, I'm a competitive guy! You were giving out points!

I believe we go to color in the 5th inning, Brendan.

2005-08-28 13:36:11
98.   Marty
Yeah, Gowdy was ubiquitous back then. As I said, I hated him on baseball telecasts, but I loved American Sportsman back then and he did a good job with that.
2005-08-28 13:36:22
99.   Tommy Naccarato
Brendan,
I hope it lasts the entire game. In fact, lets just revert the entire team, stadium, ownership back to 1955!
2005-08-28 13:37:19
100.   HomeDePo
ha! there goes the perfect game for roger!
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2005-08-28 13:37:23
101.   Tommy Naccarato
Well, not the stadium! We can take tht back to 1962!
2005-08-28 13:38:27
102.   Marty
Aw, Tommy. Let's go back to the Coliseum and Moon shots!
2005-08-28 13:39:08
103.   Bob Timmermann
Tommy,
Curt Gowdy always sounded so boring to me. He just never seemed to be in to the games.

Koufax just didn't have much personality. He obviously knew the game, but he's just too introverted. Once Koufax's contract ran out, Joe Garagiola took his place.

Even worse for me was watching the NCAA basketball tournament on NBC. Gowdy was the play-by-play guy for that. Ugh. And the Basketball Hall of Fame's award for broadcasters is named for Curt Gowdy!

2005-08-28 13:39:15
104.   HomeDePo
101 - love the colseum! crazy cool
2005-08-28 13:40:56
105.   Marty
I think Clemens would fail the character test, so he could never be a Dodger in these times. I've always heard he was a pretty lousy guy.
2005-08-28 13:40:57
106.   Bob Timmermann
Can you picture how high of a fence you would have to build in LF for the Coliseum if you played there today? It would have to be 70 feet high or else you'd have a million home runs with today's batters.
2005-08-28 13:41:04
107.   oldbear
Is Russell Martin really better than Navarro? The more I see of Navarro the more that I cant possibly think that to be true.
2005-08-28 13:41:21
108.   Tokyo
Tracy and small sample sizes go about as well together as Saenz and thongs.

Mr. Clutch 2 for 4 lifetime against Clemens, he gets the start. HSC, 1 for 7, gets benched.

Plus remember the 2 for 4 explosion by Clutch last night.

2005-08-28 13:42:35
109.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Navarro: 14 walks in 94 plate appearances. That's 14.9 percent, if you're curious.
2005-08-28 13:42:54
110.   Brendan
ok, I can handle 5 innings. sorry Tommy, I need color and my replays and my strikes and balls on the top of the screen. I'm weak that way.
2005-08-28 13:43:04
111.   Jim Hitchcock
Gowdy was a frustrated newsman, which may or may not explain his on air persona.
2005-08-28 13:43:12
112.   Bob Timmermann
Curacao takes the lead 2-1 in the 3rd.
2005-08-28 13:43:32
113.   Marty
106 The Coliseum would be comical now for baseball. Let's put an expansion team there.
2005-08-28 13:43:43
114.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
What sort of call was that at the LLWS?
2005-08-28 13:44:06
115.   Odysseus
107 who knows, it's scouts who say this stuff, and sometimes they know what they're talking about and sometimes they just make stuff up.

Still, I like Navarro, but I remain unconvinced that he's anything better than an average C. But considering Phillips was barely even a C, it was an upgrade.

2005-08-28 13:44:29
116.   Tommy Naccarato
Bob, I didn't care for Garagiola either. He was just a clueless, pompus and arrogant as Tim McCarver is today. Plus he too was a Yankee wasn't he?
2005-08-28 13:45:05
117.   oldbear
Mike Edwards regresses to the mean against Clemens. Wish AP was in.
2005-08-28 13:45:32
118.   Bob Timmermann
It was a swipe tag and it didn't immediately look like the 'Ewa Beach pitcher got the tag. He might have, but you can see how the umpire could miss it.

Remember that the umpires are working for free.
And the play was in a weird part of the field for the umpire to see.

2005-08-28 13:45:49
119.   King of the Hobos
Woohoo, graphics!
2005-08-28 13:46:31
120.   Tommy Naccarato
Marty,
I got to experience the Coliseum! Several times in fact. Only I was in my Mother's womb! (A true Dodger fan if there ever was one!)(her, as well as me!)
2005-08-28 13:47:08
121.   Bob Timmermann
Garagiola was a former announcer for the Yankees, but he didn't play for them. He started with the Cardinals.

Garagiola is single-handedly responsible for the modern day Cult of Yogi Berra. I can't imagine how many Yogi stories he told. He was good for at least two a game.

2005-08-28 13:47:13
122.   Marty
Gowdy was doing the all-star game in Detroit where Reggie hit that mammoth homerun. I was watching that at the time and was amazed that it could have left the stadium if it wasn't for the transformer on the roof. But, just so we don't fall too in love with yesterday's technology, I couldn't really tell that it hit the transformer because of the lousy cameras/TVs
2005-08-28 13:48:39
123.   Marty
I loathed Garagiola. I resented the fact that he was on the same broadcast as Scully for awhile.
2005-08-28 13:48:46
124.   Tommy Naccarato
I was hoping to see those type of graphics! It's close to the same as the old Game of the Week version.
2005-08-28 13:48:47
125.   Brendan
you couldn't yell at the umpires for a poor strike zone watching on t.v.. I hope the centerfield camera comes in to play next inning.
2005-08-28 13:50:09
126.   Marty
Tommy. Funny, my mother was the biggest Dodger fan in my family. In her later years, she would have cable installed during baseball season so she could watch the Dodgers. Then, after the season she would cancel it.
2005-08-28 13:50:25
127.   Tommy Naccarato
I forgot about him being a Cardinal but do remember the Yankee connection.

I also forgot about him and Vin annoucning for awhile. UGH!

2005-08-28 13:50:39
128.   Tommy Naccarato
I forgot about him being a Cardinal but do remember the Yankee connection.

I also forgot about him and Vin annoucning for awhile. UGH!

2005-08-28 13:51:44
129.   Bob Timmermann
Apparently Tommy you weren't watching the 1988 World Series on TV were you?
2005-08-28 13:52:16
130.   Tommy Naccarato
Sorry for the double post, but I didn't click twice, I swear!

Marty, Awesome about your mom. Mine's close to the same. She would just as soon not have cable if it wasn't for the fact she wouldn't be able to watch Dog the Bounty Hunter and Cold Case Files!

2005-08-28 13:53:51
131.   Marty
Mine died 5 years ago. I'm embarassed to say her favorite shows were CHIPs and Murder She Wrote.
2005-08-28 13:54:07
132.   Tommy Naccarato
Bob, one of my favorite moments in my life, but I just simply didn't remember that. Although I did miss seeing them on TV for Game 2. My field level seat was a much better view! I got to boo Jose Canseco, who was like 25 feet away from me max!
2005-08-28 13:55:01
133.   Marty
Brendan, I hope you are enjoying your trip to the Old Folk's Home 8^)
2005-08-28 13:55:40
134.   Tokyo
In Tracy's mind, 4 ABs against 1 pitcher is more significant than 300 ABs against all other pitchers this season.
2005-08-28 13:56:24
135.   Tokyo
Might be a historical day today. Roger......
2005-08-28 13:56:24
136.   Bob Timmermann
Back-to-back homers for 'Ewa Beach ties it up.

Solo homer for Randa puts the Padres up 2-1.

2005-08-28 13:56:26
137.   Tommy Naccarato
Sorry to hear about that. My Great-Grandmother loved the Dodgers just as much. Tommy "Johns" was her favorite player. Thankfully she passed before he left for the Yankees. I don't think she would have ever forgave him!
2005-08-28 13:57:06
138.   Jim Hitchcock
HR for 'Ewa Beach ties it up!
2005-08-28 13:59:06
139.   Tommy Naccarato
Vin is GREAT today1
2005-08-28 13:59:32
140.   Bob Timmermann
Garagiola's first announcing gig was with the Cardinals in the late 1950s. He joined the Yankees in 1965 (aka the Schadenfreude Era).

He works for Arizona every now and then. I don't think he had to audition for that job. I don't think Joe needs the money. I believe he has done quite well for himself after leaving baseball.

2005-08-28 13:59:44
141.   Marty
I think Suffering Bruin said he was going to the game today. Unfortunately he has to watch it in Living Color.
2005-08-28 14:00:33
142.   Marty
140 He spent many years on the Today Show as well. He's not hurting.
2005-08-28 14:00:41
143.   Bob Timmermann
Giles has left today's game for a pinch runner after he hit a double.

Hmmmm....

2005-08-28 14:00:43
144.   Brendan
133

I'm usually a tolerant person so I'm kind of surprised how annoying this is to me. I could see an inning maybe but I don't understand the concept of making the viewing experience suck for old times sake. I guess need to relax.

I do like hearing and reading the old stories and memories shared by others on this site. especially Koufax stories. I would have loved to seen him pitch.

2005-08-28 14:01:38
145.   Bob Timmermann
When Garagiola worked for the Yankees on radio, the three men in the booth were Garagiola, Rizzuto, and Coleman.

How did anyone know what was happening?

2005-08-28 14:01:57
146.   alex 7
Jeff Weaver might be one of the five best 5 inning pitcher in baseball this year. Wish we could keep him and pay him as a 5 inning guy.
2005-08-28 14:02:15
147.   Marty
We had fewer cameras, no color, lousy graphics...and we LIKED it!
2005-08-28 14:02:34
148.   Brendan
139

that is the one high points Vin calling the game like he does on the radio.

2005-08-28 14:03:30
149.   Marty
145 Wow. That's like having the Ritz Brothers doing the broadcast.
2005-08-28 14:03:53
150.   Tommy Naccarato
Brendan, I think the way they are doing this is introducing all of the changes since 1955 throughout the game. More then likely they'll get back to color.

Koufax was AWESOME in person. That wind-up was legendary. So was Marichal's.

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2005-08-28 14:04:08
151.   Brendan
Hey, Center-field camera. I'm in Heaven!!!!! no more whining from me.
2005-08-28 14:04:08
152.   Jim Hitchcock
Hurricane Katrina heading for New Orleans. Pat Robertson refuses to help beleaguered city!
2005-08-28 14:04:13
153.   Bob Timmermann
Last Dodger pitcher to have 4 Ks in one inning was Darren Dreifort in 2003.
2005-08-28 14:05:23
154.   Marty
I got to see Koufax twice in person, but never Marichal. Gibson was the one who was scary on the mound. I saw him once, but was way up high.
2005-08-28 14:05:27
155.   Bob Timmermann
147

And we had innumerable ads for Gillette too!

2005-08-28 14:05:37
156.   King of the Hobos
I wanted the 4th K, but good job to get Lamb
2005-08-28 14:06:30
157.   Bob Timmermann
Darren Dreifort retains his position as the last Dodger to have 4 Ks in one inning.

But Navarro tied a major league record with 3 putouts in one inning by a catcher.

2005-08-28 14:06:31
158.   Tommy Naccarato
Marty EXACTLY! I was enthralled with baseball on TV!
2005-08-28 14:06:34
159.   Marty
I've got a friend who is headed to New Orleans for a vacation in 10 days. I hope it's still there by then.
2005-08-28 14:06:36
160.   Brendan
150

that 12-6 curve-ball coming when you were expecting a 98-mph heater. too funny. made the batters look silly. That's why I love Gagne so much. making professional hitters look like Little Leaguers.

2005-08-28 14:06:39
161.   alex 7
Sorry to interrupt with game talk, but Weaver's strike to ball ratio is nearly 3:1

At worst we get a second rounder for him after arbitration right? And Moola. Ala Beltre.

2005-08-28 14:07:27
162.   Brendan
159

does he like to Scuba?

2005-08-28 14:08:28
163.   Marty
One thing I DO like with this older style broadcast is no Fox sound effects. I hate those.
2005-08-28 14:08:40
164.   molokai
This is a team that deserves to get no hit but I doubt Clemens can last nine in this heat.
Tampa Bay sweeps the Angels. I would take the Tampa Bay starting eight over the Dodger lineup that JT uses. Plus I actually like players like Huff, Cantu, and Crawford. Damon Hollins is no starting centerfielder but he's heads and tails above the likes of Cody Ross/Chen/Grabowski/Edwards/J Valentin.
2005-08-28 14:08:46
165.   capdodger
Anyone think the Dodgers will get a hit this innning?
2005-08-28 14:09:10
166.   King of the Hobos
161 We get a sandwich pick and 2nd rounder at worse, so that's a little better than what you said. Add a top 10 pick, and our draft could be very nice next year
2005-08-28 14:09:53
167.   Bob Timmermann
I would think Weaver would be in the top tier of free agents and would get first round draft picks. The rankings use playing time as one of its principal metrics and Weaver is way ahead of most pitchers in that department.
2005-08-28 14:10:50
168.   Marty
I have another friend who this year decided to go to Key West in July(!) And she was surprised that a hurricane drove them out.
2005-08-28 14:11:48
169.   alex 7
ahh, forgot about the supplemental sandwich pick. Thanks.
2005-08-28 14:13:15
170.   Tommy Naccarato
Gibson was awesome! When I saw him pitch, they announced during the middle of the game that Stan Musial was in attendance. (Remember when they used to do that?)

He got up just right in front of us about ten rows and waved! I got up, ran down and got the handshake and autograph of my program!
(Remember when the Greats used to be able to do that?!?)

2005-08-28 14:13:15
171.   King of the Hobos
No no hitter! And Mr bad hamstring outran it...
2005-08-28 14:13:23
172.   alex 7
quiet golf applause for our first hit.
2005-08-28 14:13:28
173.   Odysseus
163 you mean you don't like Scooter? Excuse me while I go drink a vat of boiling acid.
2005-08-28 14:13:46
174.   Marty
Ledee didn't look to swift there. His hamstring has got to be bothering him. I won't be surprised if he comes out.
2005-08-28 14:13:54
175.   Bob Timmermann
I think these were Ledee's thought on that infield hit:

OW
OW
OW
OW
OW
OW
OW
OW
OW

Whew!

2005-08-28 14:15:39
176.   Marty
My dad dated Musial's sister. At least that's what he told me. He was from Monongahela and Musial was next door in Donora, so it's believable.
2005-08-28 14:17:27
177.   King of the Hobos
Good thing Ledee was running, Tracy makes a wise decision...
2005-08-28 14:19:18
178.   molokai
Ledee seems so fragile. JT has been handling him with kid gloves all year. Is it time to take a look at our trainers?
Our healthy players have been
Kent/Robles/Choi/Philips
I think everyone else has been hurt. Not hurt enough for DL time but hurt enough that we can't use them. Saenz looks like he going to blow a hamstring everytime he swings or walks for that matter.
2005-08-28 14:20:46
179.   oldbear
Clemens with 78 pitches in 4 IP. If we stay patient and keep working him, he should be done by the 6th hopefully.
2005-08-28 14:22:01
180.   Tommy Naccarato
Awesome stuff!

I hate to leave, but I have a meeting to go to. I hate the fact this is bringing up such great memories and that when all is said and done we have the uneccesary stuff of today.

Did baseball forget the word, "KISS"? (Keep It Simple Stupid)

I miss the simplicity of being able to go to a game, checking my life in at the door and being engulfed into every pitch, hit, play, etc. I miss that. I loved every aspect of being in that GRAND house called Dodger Stadium. Don't get me wrong, I still love being at the Game, but its so much more convoluted. So much unnecessary stuff.

I simply loved the ability to get lost in baseball.

And yes, I know I'm a dinosaur.

2005-08-28 14:22:17
181.   Gen3Blue
Been here about 20 minutes. I'm not sure I like getting gradually teased with coverage until I get (hopefully) a few innings of the view I'm used to! I suffered for years on the EC and I still treasure each game I get.
2005-08-28 14:22:39
182.   Odysseus
When Vin said "we're going to add another camera," I saw this "A loss of video service has occurred on this channel." The joy of technology!
2005-08-28 14:23:19
183.   Bob Timmermann
Tommy,
You, unlike us young folks born in the mid 1960s, have an attention span longer than a fruit fly's.
2005-08-28 14:23:35
184.   Odysseus
Video's back!
2005-08-28 14:24:57
185.   Tommy Naccarato
Bob, That's only because you know me!
2005-08-28 14:24:57
186.   Odysseus
183 and if you were, as I was, born in the late 1970s, you have an attention span of...what were we talking about again?

And the video's gone again. Now back. I curse you Cox Communications!

2005-08-28 14:25:27
187.   Bob Timmermann
2-2 in San Diego. Rbi double for Helton.
2005-08-28 14:25:43
188.   King of the Hobos
Helton just doubled in Jamey Wright, 2-2
2005-08-28 14:26:29
189.   Tommy Naccarato
Gotta go! Marty, Brendan, everyone else and of course ...BOB! It's been awesome stroll down Stadium Way.
2005-08-28 14:27:21
190.   Bob Timmermann
Tommy has to go get in 18 holes before the sun sets!
2005-08-28 14:29:27
191.   Marty
That's not a bad idea. If I ran over to Brookside I could probably do it. Wait, it's 101 degrees, nevermind.
2005-08-28 14:29:53
192.   Uncle Miltie
Edwards is horrible. Hopefully Aybar plays a lot of 3B when he comes up.
2005-08-28 14:30:04
193.   Odysseus
Second thing on google for Fire Jim Tracy

http://tinyurl.com/ahw7o

very weird

2005-08-28 14:30:16
194.   oldbear
Leadoff man gets on and Mike Edwards GIDP. He's really hurt us at the 8th spot today in his 2 at bats.
2005-08-28 14:30:43
195.   Jim Hitchcock
2 run HR by Curacao in the fifth. They lead 5-3.
2005-08-28 14:31:51
196.   oldbear
Well this is the key inning for Weaver. They got 2-3-4 coming up. Those are the only 3 guys that can hit in this lineup.
2005-08-28 14:31:52
197.   capdodger
Seven Pitch innning. Apparently, the Dodgers decided they really do want to face Clemens for 7+ innings.
2005-08-28 14:33:09
198.   King of the Hobos
Turn the color off!
2005-08-28 14:33:25
199.   oldbear
197. Key at bat being Mike Edwards. 2 pitch DP. Cant have those and expect to win. What does Tracy see in him? He's basically Grabowski that got lucky when he was called up and had some hits fall in.

Edwards doesnt walk and has no power. Playing him over AP is ridiculous.

2005-08-28 14:33:30
200.   Jim Hitchcock
193 - I chose Googlamesh, and got my butt handed to me.
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2005-08-28 14:34:33
201.   capdodger
GIDP, please?
2005-08-28 14:35:13
202.   Bob Timmermann
Since I've made it a point to write 'Ewa Beach, to be fair I should write Curaçao.

Took me a long time to find that character on my keyboard.

2005-08-28 14:36:29
203.   Odysseus
Fire Jim Tracy defeated both Ewa Beach and Curacao. Fire Jim Tracy is a formidable opponent.
2005-08-28 14:37:37
204.   Bob Timmermann
3-run RBI single by Klesko puts the Pads up 5-2.
2005-08-28 14:37:44
205.   Odysseus
Jim Tracy is no match for Fire Jim Tracy! Good to know.
2005-08-28 14:38:41
206.   Bob Timmermann
Mets up on the Giants 1-0.
2005-08-28 14:40:11
207.   Bob Timmermann
The Gameday operator messed up. It's just 4-2 and there are runners on 1st and 3rd in San Diego.
2005-08-28 14:40:38
208.   King of the Hobos
Old friend Dave Hansen just hit his 2nd homer of the season. He was playing for Sexson, who left the game earlier due to an "injured head." What exactly does that mean?
2005-08-28 14:41:09
209.   King of the Hobos
204 Gameday decided it was a 2 run single, so what is it?
2005-08-28 14:42:04
210.   Uncle Miltie
199- Tracy thinks that Edwards is a "young guy". What he doesn't realize is that Edwards is 28 years old, the same age as Phillips.
2005-08-28 14:43:10
211.   Uncle Miltie
The umpire is calling every pitch around the plate a strike for Clemens
2005-08-28 14:44:23
212.   Bob Timmermann
I always love these updates:

SAN DIEGO RIGHT FIELDER BRIAN GILES LEFT THE GAME IN THE BOTTOM OF THE THIRD INNING WITH AN UNDISCLOSED INJURY.

2005-08-28 14:44:55
213.   oldbear
Werthless...have some discipline please.
2005-08-28 14:47:18
214.   Uncle Miltie
Kent you moron!
2005-08-28 14:47:38
215.   Uncle Miltie
At least Werth had a long at bat.
2005-08-28 14:47:50
216.   oldbear
Thats the 2nd time today Jeff Kent has made a 1st pitch out. What is he thinking?
2005-08-28 14:48:14
217.   King of the Hobos
Clemens is at 100 and is due up 3rd in the 7th.
2005-08-28 14:48:49
218.   Bob Timmermann
Snow homers in San Francisco to tie it up at 1-1.
2005-08-28 14:49:15
219.   oldbear
Way to make it easy on Clemens. 3 pitches 2 outs...
2005-08-28 14:49:32
220.   King of the Hobos
The Giants have tied it up 1-1
2005-08-28 14:49:53
221.   Uncle Miltie
217- Clemens will stay in the game thanks to some poor at bats by some of the Dodgers hitters today (Edwards, Kent, Phillips)
2005-08-28 14:50:46
222.   oldbear
Navarro, Choi, and Robles are the only players on this team that have a clue on how to work the pitcher.
2005-08-28 14:53:01
223.   Uncle Miltie
222- Antonio Perez has some pretty good at bats
2005-08-28 14:53:22
224.   Bob Timmermann
Feliz with a 2-run homer to put the Giants up 3-1. That's Benson vs. Lowry.
2005-08-28 14:53:48
225.   Odysseus
wow, don't see that every day
2005-08-28 14:53:50
226.   King of the Hobos
He's been hit enough, might as well make this call
2005-08-28 14:54:12
227.   Blue Thrue and Thrue
193 Hey, that's a useful tool:

Fire DePo is a Giant Man-Eating Plant that eats Rocks, and dissolves in Water.

Fire Jim Tracy is a Giant Dragon that has a Long Neck and an Extra Head, and is Poisonous.

Fire Jim Tracy wins!

See, it's all gonna work out. :)

2005-08-28 14:55:42
228.   Bob Timmermann
Craig, calm down. It's hot outside.
2005-08-28 14:55:43
229.   bokonon42
That Biggio has no character. I wish he were on the Dodgers just so DePo could non-tender him.
2005-08-28 14:55:44
230.   Uncle Miltie
Excellent call by the umpire
2005-08-28 14:55:46
231.   df3
223- Werth sees more pitches per PA than anyone else on the team with 4.5, which he improved today, despite making outs.
2005-08-28 14:56:01
232.   Uncle Miltie
Biggio is a little baby
2005-08-28 14:56:22
233.   gcrl
pretty sad that they screwed up the answer to the aflac trivia question. apparently it was frank robinson, not jackie, who was on the '55 team. vinny went with the graphic, and there hasn't been any correction made yet.
2005-08-28 14:57:07
234.   Bob Timmermann
You mean the graphic said Frank instead of Jackie?
2005-08-28 14:57:13
235.   regfairfield
Why was the home plate umpire following him down the line? Seems like he was lookin to start something.

You can't really fault Biggio for being upset here. How often do you see that called?

2005-08-28 14:57:15
236.   King of the Hobos
Good job there Oscar...
2005-08-28 14:58:05
237.   Uncle Miltie
That's why Robles shouldn't be a starter.
2005-08-28 14:58:13
238.   Odysseus
232 I was aware that this call can be made, but I have never seen it before, and Vin is absolutely correct that it's no surprise that it happens to Biggio. He barely moved, and when he did, he threw his triceps muscle into the ball. Good call.
2005-08-28 14:58:14
239.   Bob Timmermann
The home plate umpire runs up the line because the first base umpire was running into right field to see if Cruz caught the ball or if it was fair/foul.
2005-08-28 14:59:00
240.   gcrl
the graphic said "f. robinson" and vinny said frank.
2005-08-28 14:59:51
241.   regfairfield
239 - Good point.

I don't think Robles start candidacy should be revoked due to one error. It's not like Izturis doesn't make them.

2005-08-28 15:00:23
242.   Uncle Miltie
Phillips the gold glover!
2005-08-28 15:00:23
243.   rageon
Someone want to explain what just happened? On Gameday, all I know is that Biggio is out and him and Garner got tossed.
2005-08-28 15:00:52
244.   King of the Hobos
Even if it wasn't hit that hard, nice play by Phillips to save some runs. Now he gets to lead off, hopefully he follows the defensive play with a hit
2005-08-28 15:01:07
245.   Odysseus
Meanwhile, the only thing Jim Tracy will remember is that play at 1B by Phillips, which in his mind probably justifies everything
2005-08-28 15:01:10
246.   oldbear
I wonder if Robles error will get AP some playing time.

Robles hasnt been as good with the glove lately, but amazingly only AP is the one that gets all the heat for that.

2005-08-28 15:01:37
247.   capdodger
238232 And it looked like it hit him on his elbow pad anyway.
2005-08-28 15:03:12
248.   Marty
Wow, I just replayed the Biggio thing. He pulled a Dick Dietz!
2005-08-28 15:03:38
249.   gcrl
243 - biggio was not awarded 1st base after being hbp, because the home plate umpire did not think he tried to avoid being hit. he then fouled out and was tossed by the umpire for saying something as he ran down the line. scrap iron came out to protest, and was thrown out as well.
2005-08-28 15:03:43
250.   Bob Timmermann
'Ewa Beach has 2 on, none out in the bottom of the 6th and have pulled to within 6-5.
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2005-08-28 15:03:51
251.   Odysseus
246 I submit that it's not our lying eyes that deceive us, but it's the problem of selective memory and bias.
2005-08-28 15:05:14
252.   rageon
249 Thanks. I wish umps would call that more often.
2005-08-28 15:05:16
253.   Marty
Apparently that call only happens at Dodger Stadium. I was at the game where Dietz wasn't awarded first. It was Drysdale's fifth straight shutout during his streak in 1968.
2005-08-28 15:06:12
254.   Bob Timmermann
A White Sox hitter didn't get the call in a game at Oakland earlier this year. I think Ken Harrelson's head exploded in rage.
2005-08-28 15:06:41
255.   Bob Timmermann
Bases loaded, no outs for 'Ewa Beach.
2005-08-28 15:06:59
256.   Marty
Then it was a productive no-HBP!
2005-08-28 15:07:05
257.   capdodger
Bases Loaded, no out of Ewa.
2005-08-28 15:08:08
258.   King of the Hobos
C'mon Tracy, why? Why?!?!
2005-08-28 15:08:21
259.   Uncle Miltie
Nice one Tracy. Cruz has had back and can't run...
2005-08-28 15:08:33
260.   Icaros
I hate the hit-and-run.
2005-08-28 15:08:39
261.   Bob Timmermann
'Ewa Beach grounds into a force at the plate. Bases loaded, one out.
2005-08-28 15:08:55
262.   Uncle Miltie
*a bad
2005-08-28 15:08:58
263.   capdodger
What the heck was that?
2005-08-28 15:09:09
264.   oldbear
Jim Tracy is such a moron. Why does he play hit n run with a guy like Navarro, who's more than likely going to walk anyway to advance the runner?

FIRE JIM TRACY.

2005-08-28 15:09:22
265.   Bob Timmermann
'Ewa Beach has a batter with many apostrophes in his name at the plate.
2005-08-28 15:09:49
266.   King of the Hobos
254 That was a fun game, Crede sarted at SS, though he had never played there. He was ejected for the non HBP, and Jermaine Dye took over at SS.
2005-08-28 15:10:16
267.   Bob Timmermann
Tied up in Williamsport!
2005-08-28 15:10:30
268.   Jim Hitchcock
Tied again. Great game!
2005-08-28 15:10:40
269.   King of the Hobos
Ensberg-Berkman-Vizcaino. The first 2 against a tired Weaver doesn't sound fun
2005-08-28 15:11:13
270.   oldbear
I hate Tracy. I just have no idea why you'd play hit-n-run with a hitter that is as patient as Navarro?

This probably also means that Weaver stays in the game and gives up the GW HR.

2005-08-28 15:11:39
271.   King of the Hobos
269 I meant Lamb, not Vizcaino
2005-08-28 15:12:31
272.   Bob Timmermann
Free baseball in Williamsport.

Well, except they don't charge admission, but the metaphor holds.

2005-08-28 15:14:09
273.   alex 7
If today were July 31st, we would have traded Weaver and Werth for Dunn straight up.
2005-08-28 15:15:04
274.   King of the Hobos
Almost all of Weaver's Ks were the exact same pitch. Good job by Weaver, proved me wrong. Now let's have Choi homer and Sanchez save it. Vizcaino-Bruntlett-Ausmus isn't threatening for the 9th
2005-08-28 15:15:20
275.   Uncle Miltie
Great game by Weaver, I'd take him out now.
2005-08-28 15:15:32
276.   Bob Timmermann
Holliday triples in Helton to make it 4-3 Pads.
2005-08-28 15:16:38
277.   Bob Timmermann
Only the second extra inning championship game in the LLWS. First since 1971.
2005-08-28 15:16:47
278.   Uncle Miltie
Why not pinch hit for Edwards?
2005-08-28 15:17:05
279.   King of the Hobos
Vin just corrected it, Jackie Robinson
2005-08-28 15:17:06
280.   oldbear
Why not pinch hit for Edwards and get AP into the game right there?
2005-08-28 15:18:30
281.   King of the Hobos
And he didn't play because...?
2005-08-28 15:18:38
282.   Bob Timmermann
The LLWS has some really good names. You've got Polynesian names, Filipino names, Dutch names, French names, Spanish names, Portuguese names.
2005-08-28 15:18:43
283.   Uncle Miltie
Choi!
2005-08-28 15:18:58
284.   oldbear
Way to go Chopper!
2005-08-28 15:19:33
285.   Bob Timmermann
'Ewa Beach has a very big Samoan kid in now who throws 77 MPH. He looks hard to hit.
2005-08-28 15:19:33
286.   Uncle Miltie
Why isn't Sanchez warming up?
2005-08-28 15:19:41
287.   Odysseus
I demand that Hee Seop Choi start every game from now until his death.
2005-08-28 15:19:41
288.   Jim Hitchcock
Wow. 'Ewa Beach RP has game!
2005-08-28 15:20:47
289.   Gen3Blue
I've avoided this contraversy, but why hasn't Hee Sop Choi had more at bats this year. He looks good--even from the East Coast(EC)
2005-08-28 15:21:30
290.   Bob Timmermann
Rox had 1st and 3rd with no outs and didn't score after the triple.

4-3 Padres after 7 1/2.

2005-08-28 15:21:47
291.   King of the Hobos
With a man on 3rd, the Rockies had Atkins reach on an error (no run), then a fly ball and a DP, still 4-3 Padres
2005-08-28 15:21:53
292.   Uncle Miltie
Werth had 2 great pitches to hit and did nothing
2005-08-28 15:23:16
293.   Uncle Miltie
Oscar! Warm up Sanchez now! No Brazoban
2005-08-28 15:23:26
294.   Bob Timmermann
MAMEA!

They're dancing in the streets of 'Ewa Beach.

2005-08-28 15:23:33
295.   King of the Hobos
Thank you Palmeiro, and thanks to Robles as well. Now Sanchez can shut out Vizcaino-Bruntlett-Ausmus, or some variation with PHs
2005-08-28 15:23:33
296.   capdodger
Congrats to 'Ewa!
2005-08-28 15:23:51
297.   alex 7
heeeee
2005-08-28 15:23:58
298.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Hawaii wins at the same moment LA goes ahead.
Wow.
2005-08-28 15:24:08
299.   oldbear
Robles very nice. Atones for his earlier error.
2005-08-28 15:24:31
300.   Icaros
Since he scored the actual run, Tracy will remember that Repko hit the double to start the rally, not Choi.
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2005-08-28 15:25:13
301.   capdodger
WOO HOO!! Now bring in Game Over.. I mean Ghame Over, or Game Ouver.
2005-08-28 15:25:21
302.   Jim Hitchcock
Man, that was a great game. Congratulations 'Ewa (and Linkmeister)!
2005-08-28 15:25:41
303.   Bob Timmermann
I don't often find the LLWS all that interesting, but that game was great. The players out there were so good. And that game was sort of like Game 6 of the 1975 WS.
2005-08-28 15:26:10
304.   Mark Joseph
289 Consensus on this list is "Because Jim Tracy is an idiot."
2005-08-28 15:26:27
305.   Odysseus
289 it's simple, because Jim Tracy has an irrational loathing for him and/or an unnatural affinity for Jason Phillips.
2005-08-28 15:26:50
306.   King of the Hobos
How did he make his Brooklyn cap that dirty?
2005-08-28 15:27:59
307.   Odysseus
304 is the short version, 305 is a more detailed, nuanced explanation
2005-08-28 15:28:17
308.   Bob Timmermann
Freeman, Greene and Miles due up in the 9th at PETCO against Hoffman presumably.
2005-08-28 15:29:08
309.   King of the Hobos
Phillips doesn't help anything...
2005-08-28 15:29:10
310.   Linkmeister
Woohoo! Walkoff HR for the kids!

I was watching that game. How'd the Dodgers get their run?

2005-08-28 15:29:19
311.   Uncle Miltie
Phillips you doofus!
2005-08-28 15:29:38
312.   Odysseus
Jim Tracy will not remember that error by Phillips. Selective memory is a wonderful thing.
2005-08-28 15:29:38
313.   Bob Timmermann
Pinch double by Choi, RBI single by Robles.
2005-08-28 15:29:43
314.   Gen3Blue
Baseball sucks with the finacial setup--Whiskey should be a Dodger,and he wouldn't be involved in queering this outcome,
2005-08-28 15:29:46
315.   Icaros
That was not a bad hop to Phillips, Vin.
2005-08-28 15:29:47
316.   natepurcell
phillips is very bad defensively.
2005-08-28 15:30:05
317.   bokonon42
Wouldn't you just give anything to have Kent chew out Phillips on the field?
2005-08-28 15:30:42
318.   capdodger
THE HECK! Kent was right behind him.
2005-08-28 15:31:57
319.   Icaros
317 I'd prefer to see a wild tiger run onto the field and attack Phillips.
2005-08-28 15:32:45
320.   King of the Hobos
Another error? This really sucks
2005-08-28 15:32:48
321.   Jim Hitchcock
What a great moment for those kids. The reaction of Mamea to the `we're going to DisneyWorld' phrase was classic.
2005-08-28 15:33:01
322.   Uncle Miltie
Robles again!
2005-08-28 15:33:06
323.   Linkmeister
Thanks, Bob. I saw Werth fly out and switched over to the LLWS.
2005-08-28 15:33:13
324.   Bob Timmermann
That should be an FC 1-E6.
2005-08-28 15:33:16
325.   natepurcell
oh come on! dont self destruct now!
2005-08-28 15:33:17
326.   Icaros
I'd have preferred Sanchez just get the sure out at first there.
2005-08-28 15:33:27
327.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Whew!
2005-08-28 15:33:28
328.   Bob Timmermann
And it's all academic.
2005-08-28 15:33:29
329.   Kayaker7
Phew! That was close.
2005-08-28 15:33:36
330.   King of the Hobos
Bad defense or not, good job Lane.
2005-08-28 15:33:40
331.   Uncle Miltie
YES! Great job by Sanchez despite the poor fielding behind him.
2005-08-28 15:33:56
332.   Icaros
Oh well, worked out in the end.
2005-08-28 15:34:08
333.   natepurcell
GUAME OVER!!!
2005-08-28 15:34:41
334.   capdodger
Cool...
2005-08-28 15:34:57
335.   Kayaker7
I missed Phillips' error. What was it? Misfielding a grounder?
2005-08-28 15:34:57
336.   Vishal
that little league game was awesome.

double play?? game over? what happened?

2005-08-28 15:35:13
337.   Jim Hitchcock
This was a very good day for baseball.
2005-08-28 15:35:38
338.   Bob Timmermann
5-4-3 DP to end the game.

Padres win 4-3.

Go Phillies tonight!

2005-08-28 15:36:05
339.   Linkmeister
321 What did he say, Jim? I keep switching channels at the absolutely wrong times.:(
2005-08-28 15:36:08
340.   Icaros
So they take two of three from Atlanta and Houston and drop two of three to Colorado.

Makes sense...

2005-08-28 15:36:12
341.   capdodger
331 Duaner did contribute to that by almost thowing the ball into center field.
2005-08-28 15:37:05
342.   oldbear
Hopefully no more Jason Phillips the rest of the year. Given his error in the 9th and Choi's Double.

Also, no more Mike Edwards now that Willy Aybar is up.

5.5 out with a month to play. Not terrible. It'd have been nice to sweep the Rockies though.

2005-08-28 15:38:04
343.   Bob Timmermann
The incompetent Dodgers defense in the 9th was no match for the incompetence of the Astros offense.
2005-08-28 15:39:14
344.   Jim Hitchcock
339 - He did a double take, looked toward his manager, back to the camera with a look of `we are??'

A great, spontaneous moment that kid'll never forget.

2005-08-28 15:40:04
345.   Gen3Blue
Yes Weaver--He could mature into a good inning man. With him and Houlton, we just might build a staff.
2005-08-28 15:41:34
346.   King of the Hobos
If the Phillies win the Padilla-Vargas match up, the Dodgers take over 2nd place!
2005-08-28 15:41:51
347.   Bob Timmermann
Giants win 4-1.

I'm really hoping that the Phillies embarrass the DBacks on ESPN tonight. I want another 14-5 loss for them.

The Dodgers could at least be in second place!

2005-08-28 15:43:04
348.   Linkmeister
344 Thanks again.

This has been the lead story on the nightly news the last two nights, ahead of the usual car crashes, water accidents, and court proceedings. Tonight they might very well give over the entire half-hour to it.

2005-08-28 15:43:12
349.   Gen3Blue
343 very apt comment.
2005-08-28 15:43:27
350.   sanchez101
when was aybar called up?
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2005-08-28 15:43:31
351.   King of the Hobos
As for Tracy's plan

Dodgers: 3-4
Padres: 3-3

We lost half a game this week, which means we need to gain 1.5 this week at least. Padres get the DBacks and Brewers, while we get the Cubs and Rockies in Denver

2005-08-28 15:46:29
352.   Jim Hitchcock
Well, I'm happy for you in the islands, Link. Watching that game took me back to the time before we were all jaded sports fans.
2005-08-28 15:46:30
353.   sanchez101
i just wish the dodgers would make some movement in the standings, either fall out of contention completely or surge back into it. It seems like this team isnt good enough to gain ground on the padres, but not so bad to fall 9-10 games back.
2005-08-28 15:47:43
354.   Bob Timmermann
I was told by a Hawai'ian I work with that 'Ewa Beach isn't exactly one of O'ahu's nicer places. Sort of a tough area. Anyone know if that is the case.
2005-08-28 15:48:57
355.   Dodgersrock24
Weaver pitch a good game. Good win boys.
2005-08-28 15:49:04
356.   Jim Hitchcock
354 - It's near Pearl City, Bob, so I suspect it's true.
2005-08-28 15:50:27
357.   Linkmeister
'Ewa Beach is on the western end of Pearl Harbor. It's mostly old (1950) suburbs, with only one road in and out (I think), so it's not the most desirable or expensive neighborhood. It's not a slum, though, just a tired little town.
2005-08-28 15:51:40
358.   Linkmeister
Here's a profile of the place.

http://tinyurl.com/d8ylf

2005-08-28 15:52:01
359.   Louis in SF
On the radio both Rick and Charlie clearly said that Phillips blew the play and he might have even been better off not trying to field it Kent was behind him and Duaner came off the mound quickly and would have had the play covered.
2005-08-28 15:54:07
360.   Gen3Blue
Lovely, and the all-time leader in Hit-by-pitches is chastised--ya think? By-the-by did Aybar really get called, and where do you think he may get some playing time?
2005-08-28 15:55:33
361.   Bob Timmermann
Yes, Aybar got called up. It's on the front page of the Dodgers website.

I wonder if Jerome Williams is going to be jacked up after today's game though when the Dodgers face him in Chicago.

2005-08-28 15:55:51
362.   natepurcell
switching over to suns thoughts, kuo was just filthy in that frame. man, i am praying to the baseball gods that his arm doesnt snap off.
2005-08-28 16:00:21
363.   sanchez101
i hope aybar gets some playing time. He was hitting better than edwards in LV, and i shouldnt have to say that he can hit better than valentin. Hes the best fielding 3rd baseman on the team, probably the best fielding 2nd baseman as well.
2005-08-28 16:00:48
364.   Dodgersrock24
That was a great LLWS. Hawaii were the deserving champions, but Cuaraco did a great job defending their title.
2005-08-28 16:02:18
365.   Icaros
What's the address to watch Suns games online again?
2005-08-28 16:03:49
366.   Dodgersrock24
Izzy on the DL. I just found that out. Well Robles is doing a great job as the replacement.
2005-08-28 16:04:47
367.   sanchez101
www.southernguide.tv
2005-08-28 16:12:02
368.   Bob Timmermann
Hey, I actually got that to work on my computer. I feel like I can play with all the other kids now.
2005-08-28 16:20:22
369.   Icaros
Thanks 367.
2005-08-28 16:22:39
370.   Gen3Blue
Whats the J.Williams tie? Thanks in advance.
2005-08-28 16:24:58
371.   Linkmeister
Jerome Williams is from Waipahu, an old sugar town just north of 'Ewa Beach. He's the only Hawai'i player currently in the big leagues.
2005-08-28 16:27:42
372.   SuperSax
The manager from the Ewa Beach team also managed Jerome Williams when he was in Little League.
2005-08-28 16:29:58
373.   808Bears
Today is a great day to be from the 808 and cheering for the Blue! Too bad both games were on at the same time...
2005-08-28 16:36:29
374.   Bob Timmermann
Since we have people from the 50th state here, can someone translate this from the Honolulu Advertiser:

Aloha Stadium officials confirmed UH will be on the makai sideline, usually reserved for visiting teams, against USC. Because of the 1:05 p.m. kickoff, the Warriors wanted to be on the shaded side. UH will keep its makai locker room, meaning the teams will cross paths at the end of the half and game.

Which side is "makai"?

2005-08-28 16:43:27
375.   808Bears
"Makai" is the ocean side, vs. "mauka" for the mountain side. On an island, there's little use for standard north/south/east/west directions, so the more relevant terms are mauka/makai.
2005-08-28 16:58:39
376.   gvette
Talked to a guy at a party last night who is one of thousands of USC fans headed to the Islands for the season opener.

Most likely, after six beers in the first half, he's not going to care whether he's on the makai or mauka side of Aloha Stadium.

2005-08-28 17:02:47
377.   808Bears
Lucky for him, the proposed alcohol ban at Aloha Stadium didn't go through yet.
2005-08-28 17:11:35
378.   gvette
The sight of planeloads of USC fans wearing Tommy Trojan Hawaiian shirts, clutching drinks with umbrellas in them, and humming "Conquest" may be enough to jumpstart the movement to reinstate the monarchy in Hawaii.

BTW, Did Weaver's effort today insure that he won't have to take a pay cut this winter?

2005-08-28 17:23:51
379.   Linkmeister
Actually, monarchy is not on the agenda for the sovereignty movement, last I looked.

The way to remember "mauka/makai" is that "mau" is pronounced like the first syllable in "mountain."

'Ewa would be towards the western end of the island, Diamond Head toward the eastern.

2005-08-28 17:26:21
380.   King of the Hobos
Howard destroys a ball to center, Phillies up 1-0
2005-08-28 17:32:20
381.   Uncle Miltie
Howard is quickly becoming one of my favorite players. This guy can really hammer the ball.
2005-08-28 17:32:28
382.   molokai
This player might have helped this year.
He was a rule 5 pick from the Dodgers this year. When he didn't make the team he was offered back to the Dodgers but Depo declined. Not that he's any great shakes but wouldn't have taken much to be better then Repko/Chen/Ross/Werth/Grabowski/Cruz. Might have been a LH version of Repko which is more usefull.

Shane Victorino (OF) PHI - AAA 8/28/2005
Victorino went 2-for-5 with his 16th triple and two runs on Saturday for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. He will be recalled in September and will battle Jason Michaels and possibly Kenny Lofton for the center field job in 2006, the Philadelphia Daily News reports. Victorino has had an excellent year at Triple-A, hitting .310 with power (58 extra-base hits), a good strikeout-walk ratio (74-51) and some speed (17-for-26 in steal attempts). Manager Charlie Manuel said: "We've had tremendous reports on Victorino." We at RotoWire have been slow to recommend Victorino but acknowledge he has made great strides in 2005 and is worth a look.

2005-08-28 17:32:44
383.   gvette
379--Duke Kahanamoku is (was) royalty as far as I'm concerned.

Seem to recall reading that Ewa was bombed on Dec. 7, 1941.

2005-08-28 17:35:18
384.   Bob Timmermann
My girlfriend left for Honolulu this morning. She'll be the tall haole with short red hair and freckles with a USC t-shirt.

She probably won't be having any beers at Aloha Stadium since the game is starting so early.

2005-08-28 17:37:32
385.   King of the Hobos
With the bases loaded and 2 out, Utley popped up. Padilla was on 3rd, and just about any player other than pitchers or Phillips would have scored on the bases loading single. Only the homer scored in the inning, but the Phillies have left 5 in 2 innings
2005-08-28 17:43:16
386.   Uncle Miltie
Shawn Green gets a hit thanks to Kenny Lofton
2005-08-28 17:45:13
387.   King of the Hobos
Glaus just scored on a Tracy single, 2 on, 1 out for the DBacks
2005-08-28 17:51:39
388.   King of the Hobos
Padilla boots a bases loaded grounder, easy force out at home missed, 2-1 DBacks
2005-08-28 17:52:24
389.   Uncle Miltie
Great play by Howard!
2005-08-28 17:56:31
390.   King of the Hobos
Remlinger has been DFA'd. I hope DePo has no interest, just pointing it out
2005-08-28 18:00:03
391.   King of the Hobos
Burrell tied it with another solo homer. Phillies still haven't done anything with men on
2005-08-28 18:02:08
392.   Telemachos
ESPN Insider has a Gammons article on Depo and the Dodgers. Anyone with a subscription -- can you sum up what it says?
2005-08-28 18:21:09
393.   King of the Hobos
Shawn Green just hit a grand slam, 6-2
2005-08-28 18:22:04
394.   Uncle Miltie
Shawn Green just hit an opposite field grand slam breaking up a 2-2 tie. That's a deep fly ball in Dodger Stadium. That was pretty un-Shawn Green like.
2005-08-28 18:30:37
395.   King of the Hobos
Giles has a bruised knee according to the Padres, but he's getting an MRI. They fear it's a recurrance of a strained ligament in his knee that he had early in 2003. He says it doesn't hurt as bad as then and hopes it's day to day
2005-08-28 18:41:20
396.   molokai
392
After a very quick read it seemed like an even protrayal of the season. Sounds like he is defending Depodesta against the computer geek bias of the LA media. Good things to say about our farm system. Said that McCourt is also not thrilled with the off court publicity that Lowe has gotten when talking about character issues.

Could anyone imagine a team with Lima and Kent on it? That might have been worth the price of admission.

2005-08-28 18:41:59
397.   bigcpa
392- Very little meat in the Gammons column. Lots of regurge of quotes already out there. Gammons by and large defends DePo:

"Was Bradley a risk when DePodesta acquired him from the Indians before the beginning of the 2004 season following a blowup with Eric Wedge? Of course. But Bradley was also the Dodgers' best player, and they would not have made the 2004 playoffs if the trade were not made. Nor would they have made the playoffs without the controversial trading deadline deals that brought the character of Steve Finley and Brent Mayne to the clubhouse, as well as delivered their No. 1 starter in 2005, Brad Penny."

2005-08-28 19:23:08
398.   Uncle Miltie
*By the time Weaver (13-8) departed, the right-hander had given up seven hits and struck out a Dodger season-high 10 batters without a walk.

Garner was less than impressed, saying, "I don't think it was Weaver, as much as it was us."*

Garner just gave me another reason to root against the Astros (Clemens being the other)

2005-08-28 20:04:22
399.   Fearing Blue
#398: It's rude of him to say so, but I agree with Garner.
2005-08-28 21:23:28
400.   Kayaker7
Yahoo! sports quote:

"Clemens allowed two hits and struck out five in six innings, but the Dodgers scored in the eighth on Oscar Robles' RBI single off Chad Qualls (4-3). The hit scored Hee-Seop Choi, who doubled with two outs as a pinch-hitter for Weaver."

Not only did they get the run scorer incorrect, they got the outs wrong at the time of the double.

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