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Dodger home record: 39-30 (.565)
When Jon attended: 5-3 (.625)
When Jon didn't: 34-27 (.557)
Dodgers at home: 745-600 (.554)
Jon attended: 293-233 (.557)*
Jon didn't: 457-374 (.550)
* includes road games attended
Current Roster with Estimated 2008 Salaries
(updated March 28)
Most figures are estimates (some are wild estimates) but will be updated as information comes in. Corrections welcome.
More contract details here.
Starting Pitchers (5)
$12,300,000 Hiroki Kuroda
$10,000,000 Derek Lowe
$9,500,000 Brad Penny
$7,000,000 Esteban Loaiza
*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
Total: $39,300,000
Bullpen (6)
$2,000,000 Takashi Saito
$1,925,000 Joe Beimel
$1,125,000 Scott Proctor
*$500,000 Jonathan Broxton
$500,000 Chan Ho Park
*$400,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
Total: $6,450,000
Starting Lineup (8)
$14,100,000 Andruw Jones
$13,000,000 Rafael Furcal
$9,000,000 Jeff Kent
$8,500,000 Nomar Garciaparra
$8,000,000 Juan Pierre
$500,000 Russell Martin
*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
Total: $53,900,000
Bench (6)
$875,000 Gary Bennett
$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
Total: $3,071,000
Disabled List
$12,000,000 Jason Schmidt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
Total: $12,790,000
Also Paying ...
$1,000,000 Brett Tomko
$750,000 Odalis Perez
$540,000 Yhency Brazoban
$500,000 Randy Wolf
$487,500 Jason Repko
$135,225 Rudy Seanez
$100,000 Mike Lieberthal
$50,000 Ramon Martinez
Total: $3,562,725
Working total: *$113,268,725
*Rough salary estimate
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The last two Dodger games I have attended, a loss and now today's victory, have been the two most pleasant I've been to all season. Both came after the team's sub-.500 status was assured, a condition that seems to have weeded out the high expecters (expectants? expectationers?) who would only be satisfied by a victory. The best that people hope for now is that a baseball game be played. That's all. Throw the first pitch and we've already won. The Dodgers of September 2005 offer no other guarantees, and so we find ourselves at the major league equivalent of Little League, where it's a celebration when someone doesn't fall on his head and it's considered poor form to rain criticism or curb hope. Call it the Losers Dividend. It's a very relaxing, freeing payoff (abetted by the ease of ingress and egress to Dodger Stadium that the smaller crowds provide), enough to make one up and move to Kansas City or Tampa Bay so this can be reinvested and experienced permanently.
There were a couple of people who violated the spirit of the day. They both seem like nice enough people on the outside and seem to not lack for friends, but still they thumbed their portfolios at the Losers Dividend. One was the chap sitting two seats away from me, who couldn't find any redeeming aspect in what lay before him and almost from the opening pitch was trying to hurry the game along so he could get home to barbecue. For those who have criticized Jim Tracy for benching Hee Seop Choi and for those who have criticized Choi's acquisition, you might find it interesting that this fan had no kind words for either. Choi does "nothing" as a player, and Tracy is the worst manager in baseball, according to this fan. Again, his delivery was easygoing and he struck me as the first guy who would help you change a tire if you were stuck on the side of the road, but for today's game, he packed a full kit of contempt. And you just wanted him to let go a little bit like the rest of us, and take the opportunity to let baseball be baseball.
The other spurner was Tracy. With two on and two out in the sixth inning today in a 2-2 tie, Choi stood in the on-deck circle with Willy Aybar at the plate. As Aybar inched closer to a walk, it occured to myself and others that Choi could have the game's make-or-break at-bat. It also occured to us that with a lefthander on the mound, Tracy might pinch-hit for Choi, even though it would be the perfect opportunity in this meaningless game, during a part of the season that Tracy himself has said he's putting people like Brian Myrow in situations to gain information for 2006, to give Choi a key at-bat against a southpaw. A perfect Little League moment.
Aybar walked to load the bases, and Choi took a couple steps toward home plate. Sitting (thanks - seriously, thanks - to some generous seats from an anonymous Dodger Thoughts reader) in the lower part of the Field Level, I could see and hear Tracy yell at Choi to come back. Either Choi had not gotten an earlier message, or Tracy did not counsel Choi that he wouldn't bat against a lefty with the bases loaded. It added insult to insult. Either way, as Tracy sent Jason Phillips up to pinch-hit, it caused me to have my one bad moment of the game and yell at Tracy like I was the protective father of the 10-year-old Choi. This was not what the game was supposed to be about.
My reaction sprung from the assumption that this was a time for the kids, a time to get a glimpse of the future in the present. Upon reflection, I realized that maybe Tracy was Little Leaguing it after all, that he was trying to get as many guys in the game as possible and this was his best spot for Phillips, who in fact hasn't played much lately. No one thinks Phillips has much more of a future in Los Angeles, but of course, perhaps Choi doesn't either. So I'm going to grudgingly, very grudgingly, let Tracy off the hook on this one. And it has nothing to do with Phillips getting a single that keyed the Dodgers' six-run inning. I think it was objectively the wrong move for the organization and personally disappointing, but Phillips is a human being too. I'm not going to stay mad. That would be my waste of the Dividend.
So while it's easy to blame Tracy for taking an at bat from a player whose ability ceiling is still undecided and instead giving it to Phillips, it's somewhat difficult for me to blame a manager for playing to win, even when winning isn't goal #1.
I guess that makes Tracy hard-headed while also making me wonder even more if he and Depo are on the same page. If a season is over yet a manager makes in-game moves that take away from the developing players (even if it's only 1 at bat), it shows discord between what should be happening and what is.
But ultimately, it was just one moment, and not enough, I've decided, to get hung up on.
I'm a Choi agnostic now. I would've liked to see him bat, and use that great eye of his to draw a walk if he couldn't get the hit. But Phillips did the job for a change, so I was happy for him too. Today's game made me think good thoughts about the current Dodger team, especially the guys who had no reason to think they'd be part of it. They weren't very good, but they never gave up, and on those rare occasions when things went well, it was almost more satisfying. If Gary Sheffield hits a home run against the Red Sox, well, that's what he's paid for. But when it's Oscar Robles, hitting a home run for the Dodger that ties a game against the Giants, that's a moment. We were one hit like that short in a lot of our games this year. That one hit was the difference between the men and the boys, I guess. But it's to their credit that this crew got that close so frequently.
Choi Pre break:
.776 OPS (243 pa's)
Choi Post break:
.836 OPS (102 pa's)
Garret Anderson would love to have those numbers.
Guys who never made it, guys who weren't famous yet. It's all fun.
The last four home games are unlikely to have any bearing whatsoever on the pennant race. The DBacks are still mathematically alive (who would have thought that at the beginning of the year?), but they likely won't be hanging on for long.
Despite the fact that I could have been watching a first place team on TV (the Angels), I just couldn't bring myself to pay much attention to the game. And it's likely that come a week from Tuesday or Wednesday (whenever the Angels start their series), I will be rooting hard for them, I still cared whether or not Willie Aybar could reach base in a 2-2 game.
My buddy, myself, and the guys in front of us were ragging on Mike Edwards (between us, not "out loud") throughout the whole game and of course, he had to come up with the game on the line. I was happy for Edwards that he was able to have a moment like that.
Friday nights game was fun too, but for different reasons. The fireworks were great and the atmosphere was pretty laid back. On top of that (TMI warning), I took a great girl to the game.
Going to games that don't matter can be kind of fun. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade it for either of the playoff games that I attended last year. Just going and enjoying the game, no matter the outcome is kind of fun.
As long as it's not expectorants.
Lovely bit of writing, Jon.
If you like games like this, you guys ought to try college baseball. Sitting at Les Murakami Stadium watching a game with Diamond Head over the left-centerfield fence is a joy.
As long as I'm in here, lemme share my most recent Internet fixation:
http://www.librarything.com
Bob ought to like it; catalog your collection using LC data you don't have to type yourself.
As a baseball fan I can say the older you get the better it gets. I can look down at the field and see players today and remember the guys I saw as a kid. In one of my posts I mentioned that Aybar kind of reminded me of Jim Gilliam. Aybar is a little taller but he is a switch hitter, a good fielder and he has a line drive stroke, all the things I remember about Gilliam. I have yet to see anyone who reminds me of Sandy, but maybe Logan White is looking around as I am typing this. I wish him luck. And even though he was a Giant and I am not a Giant fan, if Logan White uncovers a Willie Mays, I won't object to seeing him with the Dodgers.
Stan from Tacoma
While I know there was a collective, "I can't believe he is doing this" from almost every DT reader, the pinch hitting of Choi, by Tracy with Mr. Phillips illustrates a problem that many on DT, myself included have never fully accepted. Tracy was never called out by DePo becasue McCourt doesn't have the money and didn't have it to make a serious move when key players were injured. In my mind this is why Tracy will not be fired next year even if DePodesta wants Tracy to play CHoi more.
Were there expensive, good players for sale in June and July? I don't recall that there were.
The treasury DePo didn't want to tap wasn't McCourt's money vault, it was Logan White's talent bank.
those two numbers aren't particularly far apart for one, and choi's sample size is a hefty 27 at-bats. plus, it's kind of not the point. we already know more than we need to know about phillips. the game's outcome itself is meaningless now; let's let choi bat against lefties.
and we continued to think about tracy not being in sync with the kind of players depo is bringing in...tracy manages games well, but cant or doesnt want to understand the GM's philosophy. so if your manager doesnt get the direction of the gm, who has to budge?
im thinking that tracy will head to pgh or cin and depo will push to bring ron washington in to take over. just a thought.
I'm thinking sitting anywhere you can see Diamond Head in the background is pretty good, so if you add some baseball it becomes heaven. Most of the live games I see are AAA, and they have a similar feel to them. If the home team wins, great, but it's more about watching players develop, trying to figure out which ones will go on. I will say, though, that given a choice I pick Honolulu over Pawtucket any day.
Bob ought to like it; catalog your collection using LC data you don't have to type yourself.
Sounds like a busman's holiday for me. I just put my books on shelves until they don't fit. Then I throw away old ones.
The emergence of rookie Ryan Zimmerman makes Nationals third baseman Vinny Castilla a candidate to be traded. Castilla, 38, could be a fit for the Dodgers or Padres, but he ranks eighth in on-base/slugging percentage among the 10 National League third basemen who qualify for the batting title. Chances are, he won't be worth the $3.2 million he is guaranteed in 2006. ...
Really? You don't think?
If Vinny Castilla's playing for the Dodgers, that means Pat Gillick has taken over as GM.
And by the way that "rumor" is just the horsiest of horse apples. There's no owner and no one has a clue. But the articles always seem to mention Cashman, Josh Towers, and/or Pat Gillick based on nothing it seems more than availability and some or other tie to the region.
His first move: Trade for Sammy Sosa.
Stan from Tacoma
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"The team's questionable chemistry will lead to a roster turnover and probably a change in manager..."
hmmmm...which team could Rosenthal be talking about? The Pirates? The Devil Rays? The Reds? The only team he could not ever certainly be talking about is the Florida Marlins, to whom the Dodgers traded not only all their chemistry, but several National League East division championships.
So don't get shut out....
Does the New York Times have Boston envy?
Making a bobblehead out of one of the least favorite Dodgers in team history is brilliant. I'm surprised they didn't realize a 20th Anniversary Niedenfuer edition this year.
Meanwhile, forecasted rain threatens to reschedule my rain game tonight. I will be annoyed in the extreme if, after sitting at the stadium for 3 hours through one soaking and eventually fatal rain delay, and after juggling life to get free to get up to Balt for the rescheduled game tonight, it then gets moved to an afternoon this week and I can't go at all.
I'm including his pre-Dodger popularity (or lack thereof).
I grew up in Stamford in the populous Fairfield County, and we considered ourselves a suburb of New York, rooting for NY teams.
I don't even think the Dodgers have had a game delayed by rain once the game started this year and had one game in Denver have its start delayed for a few minutes.
I also don't think the Dodgers played any doubleheaders, did they? I kinda miss the days when "playing two" was written into the schedule.
The analogy with Niedenfuer doesn't track at all.
"The enemy of my enemy is my..."
The Dodgers split.
The Dodgers last doubleheader at Dodger Stadium was on 7/22/1999 against Colorado, but that was a day-night doubleheader, which in the record books, doesn't count as a doubleheader. (The Rockies won both games.)
The last "2 for the price of 1" doubleheader at Dodger Stadium was on July 8, 1992 against Montreal. The Dodgers split that day. That was not caused by rain.
The last scheduled doubleheader was on September 17, 1987 against Cincinnati. Another split. That was necessitated by Peter O'Malley wanting to clear the stadium for use by Pope John Paul II for a Mass.
Josh Towers is a good pitcher and has a helluva mouth on him, but I'm not sure what his other qualifications for a GM position are...
"Bad arm angles today"
"Put them in a position to succeed"
"Robles in the 3-spot sounds good"
"Give the bunt sign to JD"
"I think Weaver still has something left"
"Give Izturis the green light"
If these are the proving grounds for the major leagues, don't you want your young LH hitters to get as MANY at bats against LHP as possible, for learning purposes? etc etc. Why do minor league managers manage like major league managers, when doing exactly the opposite would better suit the organization's goals?
Meanwhile, an "action statue" doesn't sound too fun to me.
Wait, I didn't mean it to sound like that... Eh, you know what I mean.
I thought you meant Kevin Towers, who is not Epstein's assistant but whom Epstein used to be an assistant to.
The Boston asst's name is Josh Byrnes.
Sorry guy, but I don't like either Bonds or Kent. Call me crazy.
So would you have tossed back the 1956 NL pennant because Sal Maglie was on the Dodgers?
Or the 1963 World Series because Leo Durocher was a coach?
What's wrong with Leo Durocher? He was a longtime Dodger shortstop and pennant-winning manager before he ever stained his uniform orange. If anyone, it's the Giants fans who should hate him, not us.
My dislike of Kent preceded his stint with the Gnats. I don't subscribe to the belief that one is required to like all players on one's favorite team.
Nothing like having a weapon of mass destruction at the hot corner.
Icaros: Boo, Ghandi.
Perhaps he is not among the least popular Dodgers in history, but you have to admit (don't you?) that it's a sad day for Dodgerdom when Jeff Kent is the best bobblehead candidate on the roster. I never thought I'd see that day.
H S C!
H S C!
H S C!
As Jerry Seinfeld has said, "We're just cheering for laundry!"
I don't need a Jeff Kent bobblehead to tell me this hasn't been a good year.
76 - No, RJR.
That depends, if his head were filled with real coke, it could be the Most Wonderful Day at the Ballpark Ever, until the inevitable comedown.
I think he's more your favorite than anyone else's. You two have something special.
The rest of us really love our little 10-year-old Hee Seop.
I meant no offense, Jon. It just seems to me (and evidently I'm alone in this) that choosing Kent for a bobblehead indicates being somewhat out of touch with the fans. But maybe I'm wrong.
Plus, R.J. is a uniter, not a divider.
Reminds me of my Halloween 04 plan of buying a Strawberry throwback Mets jersey and throw baby powder all over myself. After finding out that the jersey would cost a few hundred dollars, I reconsidered.
Steak Knives day!
Lawn Dart day!
Rosin bag day!
Pine tar day!