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Gagne's Return: Five Pitches, Five Four Strikes, Three Outs
2006-03-08 12:51
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Eric Gagne "made his first appearance since last June and needed only five pitches to get through the fifth inning," wrote Roch Kubatko in a live-blog for the Baltimore Sun of today's 9-3 Dodger victory over the Orioles. "He topped out at 91 mph and struck out Nick Markakis," Kubatko added.

As for Dodger starting pitcher Chad Billingsley, the results were mixed.

"He reached 94 mph on a scout's radar gun, and shattered (Val) Majewski's bat on an infield single in the third," Kubatko wrote. "But he also hung a curveball on (Melvin) Mora's single that proceeded a Nick Markakis walk and (Napoleon) Calzado's drive into the right-center field gap. He left with one out in the third."

The Dodgers got home runs from today Sandy Alomar, Jr., Cody Ross, Joel Guzman and Bill Mueller and a triple from Matt Kemp.

Update: Hmm. In the boxscore, Gagne has no strikeouts. He has two groundouts and a flyout. The Associated Press provides the following:

"I felt perfect on the mound," said Gagne, who worked the fourth inning. "I threw all fastballs. I hoped to get to throw some more but the hitters were swinging at the first pitch. But if I have to choose five pitches or 15, I'll take five every day."

... Four of his five pitches Wednesday were strikes. Orioles catcher Eli Whiteside gave Gagne's second pitch a long ride before left fielder Matt Kemp tracked it down on the warning track.

... Gagne is expected to pitch Saturday in Viera against the Washington Nationals. He said he is continuing to work on his changeup, curve and slider in bullpen sessions and will work them into game situations as the spring progresses.

In other news from AP, Andre Ethier, injured Tuesday, was scheduled for an MRI, and Edwin Bellorin, Eric Langill, Eric Stults and Jon Weber were sent to minor league camp.

Billingsley's final line: 2 1/3 innings, six hits, three runs, two walks, no strikeouts. Jeff Kent, in his Spring debut after offseason right wrist surgery, had two hits.

Update 2: More quotes from Gagne, courtesy of Ken Gurnick of MLB.com.

"I felt great," said Gagne, who was clocked at a high of 92 mph. "I'm pain free. I feel comfortable with my mechanics. I'll add a couple more miles per hour. I was focusing on strikes, keeping the ball down and controlling my emotions. I was excited. It's good to go out there and see how hitters react."

Gagne threw only fastballs and expects to pitch again Saturday.

"I'm mainly trying to get my rhythm back," he said. "I missed a couple spots and that's why they hit the ball pretty hard. I can tell when I miss, because they hit the ball pretty hard. If I throw 91 or 92 [mph] and I bounce back, I'm fine with that. The ball was coming out of my hand crisp."

Gurnick added that young pitcher Jose Diaz will be sidelined for a week with elbow tenderness, but Yhency Brazoban is scheduled to pitch his first inning Thursday.

Comments (130)
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2006-03-08 13:04:17
1.   overkill94
Only 91 mph huh? Not too bad for his first game action. What type of velocity should we hope for to make Gagne at least close to as dominant as his previous self, 94? 96?
2006-03-08 13:14:27
2.   Humma Kavula
I will not get too excited about JtD's home run. I will not get too excited about JtD's home run. I will not get too excited about JtD's home run...

...oh, it's no use. I will get excited! I will, will, will!

2006-03-08 13:16:41
3.   Penarol1916
2. If you get excited about Guzman's home run, does that mean someone has to get all pessimistic about about Billingsley's outing?
2006-03-08 13:17:39
4.   King of the Hobos
I know it's spring, and it's early at that, but how does Alomar hit two homers within a week?
2006-03-08 13:18:48
5.   Humma Kavula
3 It might just mean that I'm easily excitable.
2006-03-08 13:19:03
6.   Uncle Miltie
Ouch about Gagne's velocity. Roids?

Walkin' Willy drew 2 more walks today. He probably didn't do anything scrappy so Little and Colletti won't notice.

2006-03-08 13:20:39
7.   overkill94
6 Roids...or that this is his first game action in like 10 months and he's coming off elbow surgery.
2006-03-08 13:29:05
8.   Sushirabbit
That's great news on Gagne! I was really worried about his velocity. Did he throw the slider? The curve can need some work, this early, so that doesn't bother me.

Also, anyone interested in playing in a Plus League on Yahoo, let me know. I'm looking for folks that will stay, so we can keep a keeper league going. No Keepers this year, as too managers left last year. $10 fee offsets cost of league and trophy.

Here is League info: http://tinyurl.com/fdel9

Here is where to apply:
http://tinyurl.com/fbkfb

2006-03-08 13:30:26
9.   Brendan
Can Guzman make this team? what are the odds? 60/40 against? 50/50?
2006-03-08 13:30:44
10.   gcrl
2
once upon a time, i was excited about jose offerman's hr in his 1st ab.

granted, power is more of jtd's game than jose's was, but still, i learned my lesson.

2006-03-08 13:30:59
11.   King of the Hobos
Saenz up, bases loaded, one out, Panama down by two in the bottom of the 9th
2006-03-08 13:32:01
12.   King of the Hobos
Saenz hits a shallow fly ball that drops because the OFs were so deep
2006-03-08 13:32:58
13.   Brendan
if you can put on Cuba/Pan game on espn2. bottom of the 9th. Cuba up 6-5, Pan has the bases loaded with one out.
2006-03-08 13:33:15
14.   overkill94
9 I only give it about a 20% chance. Not only would he have to tear it up (which he isn't so far), but Cruz would have to take a dump. Plus, Joel would have to show he'd at least be adequate in LF, though that shouldn't be too hard.

Killer Tomato with the bloop of all bloops for an RBI single.

2006-03-08 13:34:28
15.   Humma Kavula
HBP!! Tie game!
2006-03-08 13:35:44
16.   fawnkyj
Damn im hearing this game on XM and sounds like a heckuva game! 6-6 tie!
2006-03-08 13:36:53
17.   overkill94
If Rivera gets another clutch hit I think the country of Panama should chip in to buy him an authentic game-worn Derek Jeter glove.
2006-03-08 13:37:44
18.   Humma Kavula
It's 3-1 to Ruben Rivera. A walk wins it for Panama.
2006-03-08 13:38:32
19.   bhsportsguy
Oh Nate - Another double for Loney, just a thought, does anyone remember who was slated to be to the left and right of Andruw Jones last year, that's right Brian Jordan and Raul Mondesi, it wasn't too long due to injuries and poor play that Langerhans, Kelly Johnson and Jeff Francoeur were in the lineup. The current outfield situation is certainly fluid, but lets say that Drew is healthy, could anyone see both Ethier and Guzman flanking him at some point this year.
2006-03-08 13:39:56
20.   fawnkyj
WOW we go to extra innings!
2006-03-08 13:40:55
21.   natepurcell
i could definately see ethier or guzman or even young in the LA outfield this year.

in regards to guzman making the team out of ST, i dont like it. he needs more time. he needs to see AAA pitching. he still strikes out a ton and he really needs to work on that.

and loney needs to stop teasing me!

2006-03-08 13:44:59
22.   natepurcell
how has Yuleski Gourriel looked? hes suppose to be legit.

call my a commie, but i want cuba to win this thing.

2006-03-08 14:18:48
23.   King of the Hobos
22 Some really nice defensive plays, and had a big 9th inning homer. Panama walked him intentionally in the 11th, so they respect him
2006-03-08 14:29:35
24.   overkill94
Alright, who crashed the site?

USA's getting rocked by our neighbors to the north, I guess that's what happens when all your players get convinced not to play by their management. How good can you be when Al Leiter and Gary Majewski are on your roster?

2006-03-08 14:46:49
25.   oldbear
7-0 Canada.

I sort of wish Russ Martin and Gagne were both playing for Canada. I find the WBC more interesting than spring training.

2006-03-08 14:48:50
26.   KAYVMON
25 - Whatever, if Vancouver Island wanted to secede, Canada couldnt do anything about it.
2006-03-08 14:52:25
27.   Penarol1916
25. Both pale in comparison to the conference tournaments, although it was pretty cool during my extended lunch to watch the US losing to Canada as my secondary option as opposed to the Atlantic-10 tourney. Although that isn't as cool as watching the Fighting Irish lose like they did again.
2006-03-08 15:00:46
28.   D4P
3
If you get excited about Guzman's home run, does that mean someone has to get all pessimistic about about Billingsley's outing?

You rang?

2006-03-08 15:02:49
29.   fawnkyj
8-2! USA is mounting a comeback. Yuliesky sounds like the real. The XM guys were saying how he looked like Juan Gone and very atheletic. Logan white should help him paddle across. Heck i'll go ever there in a wetsuit if he'll sign with the blue.
2006-03-08 15:06:44
30.   natepurcell
i think yuliesky is unlikely to defect. his dad is the coach of his team and he has a lot of family ties to cuban beaseball and such.

in yesterdays dodger.com notes, it said colletti was going to arizona to scout the WBC. who is worth scouting that isnt signed?

2006-03-08 15:08:48
31.   fawnkyj
Varitek hits a SLAM! 8-6 canada
2006-03-08 15:35:22
32.   dsfan
6

I'm an Aybar backer and am beginning to think he'd be better off with a different organization (of course, if he keeps hitting as badly as he has in winter ball and spring camp, it won't matter).

Walking Willy, as you called him, is pretty patient. At age 19, he went into high A ball and drew 69 walks in about 350 PA -- had more walks than strikeouts. I doubt Little/Colletti will be patient with him, especially with LaRoche in the wings. Aybar's not a big first impression kind of guy. He's pretty smooth at 3B, which can be deemed nonchalant. He's a pretty patient hitter, which can be deemed passive. He's not without flaws, but he's got some foundations skills. He does a lot of things fairly well.
I doubt the new regime will hang with him if he stinks it up this spring. Am glad to see him get two walks today -- if he starts hacking just to try to impress, he's toast.

2006-03-08 15:42:13
33.   King of the Hobos
30 He could be scouting trade targets. Or the South African team, which is almost exclusively players from the South African Baseball Union
2006-03-08 15:47:05
34.   Andrew Shimmin
22- Someday, when you're ready to talk about it, I'll be fascinated to learn how it was that you came to forswear the -ed suffix. Is it like a Batman situation, where an -ed suffix killed your parents? Is it a religious thing? Anyway, like I said: when you're ready to talk about it. . . 8^)
2006-03-08 15:49:37
35.   CanuckDodger
26 -- Ah, but that is what we have WANTED you Americans to believe. When our secret plan to invade and annex North Dakota comes to fruition, won't you all be surprised. Oops, I have said far too much...
2006-03-08 16:00:12
36.   Marty
Just keep your poutine up there in Canadia
2006-03-08 16:02:25
37.   natepurcell
i thought utley got all of that. poop!
2006-03-08 16:06:53
38.   Vishal
[37] how far did it go?
2006-03-08 16:09:31
39.   King of the Hobos
38 Over 400 ft to dead center, Stern had to jump to get it (although it wasn't going to be a homer, I'm not even sure it would have hit the wall)
2006-03-08 16:11:08
40.   natepurcell
the best name of the WBC so far has been stubby clapp of canada.
2006-03-08 16:11:10
41.   Uncle Miltie
32- I know about Aybar, I've been following him since he was in A. The Dodgers expected him to be a big power hitter, but he's probably more like Bill Mueller. Mueller was able to play 2B during his prime, so I think Aybar can do the same.

The US doesn't deserve to win this game. Utley should be ashamed of himself for his little Barry Bonds impression after he thought he hit a HR. Good for Canada. I have relatives there too.

2006-03-08 16:12:33
42.   Marty
Funniest headline I've read in years:

http://tinyurl.com/kwp9z

2006-03-08 16:13:34
43.   Vishal
...and the canucks win! congratulations.
2006-03-08 16:15:43
44.   natepurcell
i want a cuba and japan finals.
2006-03-08 16:17:15
45.   CanuckDodger
Next, kiss North Dakota goodbye...
2006-03-08 16:24:51
46.   Vishal
[44] that's actually what i'm hoping for too. that or japan-dominican republic.
2006-03-08 16:40:27
47.   Another Tom
Glad I was wrong re: Gagne.
2006-03-08 16:45:04
48.   Jacob L
45 Go ahead and help yourself to South Dakota.
2006-03-08 16:50:15
49.   Jon Weisman
48 - No! Not the Badlands! Not Wall Drug! Not the Mitchell Corn Palace!
2006-03-08 16:51:39
50.   Andrew Shimmin
42- The reporter forgot to ask the most important question (typical): how does it taste?
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2006-03-08 16:55:04
51.   Andrew Shimmin
Canadians : Mount Rushmore :: Taliban: Buddha statues

They must be stopped above the 48th parallel!

2006-03-08 16:58:40
52.   Vishal
Fifty-four Forty or Fight!!!
2006-03-08 16:59:39
53.   Vishal
(or we'll just stick to 49)
2006-03-08 17:04:09
54.   Andrew Shimmin
The internet mislead me. Mount Rushmore is much further south-- 43° 53' N; 103° 28' W. So, the Canadians can have the run of the place down to 44° N. Then they'd better mind their manners.
2006-03-08 17:08:58
55.   Brendan
50 42

Tastes like butter. No one likes the taste of lobster, they all like the taste of butter. Dip anything in butter and it will taste decent. Bleh!

2006-03-08 17:21:43
56.   natepurcell
since billingsley did so horrible today, we should really trade him for bob wickman before his value drops even more.
2006-03-08 17:59:03
57.   natepurcell
nfl owners approved cba. Free agency starts at 1201 tonight.

but in crappy news, culpepper demands a trade or his contract to be terminated. why must all my sports teams have offseason drama? dodgers, lakers, vikings, all kings of drama in thier respective sports.

2006-03-08 18:18:12
58.   thinkingblue
6.

No, I think that Mueller was signed just because he is the more established player, and is a better fielding 3B.
Also, Aybar would not get noticed for 3rd because Mueller is having a much better spring.

2006-03-08 18:19:41
59.   thinkingblue
adding to 58.

Also, not roids, just that Gagne was working out extremely hard, and is thinner.
That, and it is just the start of ST, he can get it up to about 94-95 by the start of the season.

2006-03-08 18:28:49
60.   Uncle Miltie
I don't know if Gagne got one pitch above 93 MPH last year. If he can't throw that 96-98 MPH fastball, I wouldn't even consider resigning him.
2006-03-08 18:49:09
61.   bhsportsguy
58-60, If he has his control and arm motion and his devasting change up, his velocity is just an imtimidating factor when that scoreboard shows 98, I saw lots of guys make outs on his offspeed stuff.

Another little story on Dodgers.com about how much Grady likes Kemp. Since its possible that both Cruz and Ledee will about at least for another week, we should see a lot of Kemp and Guzman (Ethier too) in the OF.

2006-03-08 18:56:12
62.   Brendan
60

I agree with Uncle Miltie. Let Jim Bowden or someone of his ilk pay handsomely for a Gagne that tops at out at 92mph.

2006-03-08 18:57:02
63.   D4P
From Gurnick:

Infielder Ramon Martinez...is considered to have a serious chance of making the club as a utilityman.

Versatile enough to play all four infield positions and a serious threat to take Oscar Robles' utility job. He spent time with general manager Ned Colletti in San Francisco, so he's got an edge there.

2006-03-08 19:07:19
64.   dsfan
60, 62

I agree. Plus, Boras isn't going to give the Dodgers any kind of discount. Au revoir, Eric.

63

I guess I'm in denial. Unless someone gets hurt, why keep Ramon Martinez? Robles gives you a better AB and is as good or better at SS-2B-3B.

2006-03-08 19:11:32
65.   Uncle Miltie
Somebody needs to Tonya Harding Ramon Martinez
2006-03-08 19:31:00
66.   Uncle Miltie
"His ball was alive and he had a smile on his face, so that was great," Dodgers manager Grady Little said.
Grady Little makes Jim Tracy sound intelligent. As long as everyone is smiling, everything should be fine. Repko and Ramon Martinez must smile a lot. Little probably feels intimidated by Aybar's frown.
2006-03-08 19:32:31
67.   Steve
Gagne for Bay! Gagne for Bay!
2006-03-08 19:33:31
68.   bhsportsguy
Jon - Who pays Gurnick's salary, MLB or the Dodgers, is he reporting or stating opinions?

To say Martinez has an edge on Robles because he played for the Giants with Ned may have some small nugget of truth there but I think the fact that he is veteran role player while Robles does not even have a full year makes more sense as an argument. However, it would also be true that Marinez will easily earn twice as much as Robles too.

If Gurnick is citing someone within the Dodger front office, I wish he would at least allude to that as opposed to just saying something to say something.

2006-03-08 19:36:58
69.   ScoobyGoo
I tried to search for a Cuba WBC Hat to represent my favorite Marxist country when I go to the Semi's/Finals at Petco, but I can't find them anywhere for sale! What's up with that? Sheesh, what kind of communists wouldn't let me buy the type of hat I want!

I only hope Plaschke rips into Flanders for the inevitable day Gagne is traded, considering one can argue he's a bit better than that LoDuca fellow...

2006-03-08 19:56:40
70.   D4P
Steve: Why is Ramon II not yet on The List?
2006-03-08 19:57:31
71.   Daniel Zappala
57 I understand the Lakers-Vikings connection, but Dodgers-Kings-Lakers-Vikings?? The Vikings seem out of place in that context.
2006-03-08 20:04:45
72.   Jon Weisman
68 - The overwhelming sense I get is that Colletti just really likes Martinez. And given that Martinez has the proven veteran tag, Gurnick might not think he needs much more to explain why Martinez has a good shot.

Unlike Choi, Martinez is consistent. :)

2006-03-08 20:06:35
73.   Brendan
Maybe Ramon II makes the club because he can refuse to go to the minors. Robles has options.
2006-03-08 20:07:39
74.   D4P
I considered it a foregone conclusion that, upon being invited to ST, Ramon would end up making the roster.

BROTheR!

2006-03-08 20:23:20
75.   Steve
That's BROTheR(TM)! Find your own evil acronym!
2006-03-08 20:24:49
76.   Steve
By the way, I thought we might call him GOB.
2006-03-08 20:26:03
77.   King of the Hobos
69

http://shop.mlb.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2222807&cp=2194484.2194500

2006-03-08 20:26:42
78.   D4P
SMOTheR!

(Smite Martinez Off The Roster!)

2006-03-08 20:27:52
79.   D4P
76
Him who?
2006-03-08 20:30:36
80.   King of the Hobos
78 Unlike Repko, Martinez isn't on the roster, hence non-roster invitee
2006-03-08 20:32:09
81.   Steve
Ramon II. Like George Oscar Bluth II.
2006-03-08 20:32:41
82.   Andrew Shimmin
79- Him whom?
2006-03-08 20:33:52
83.   D4P
81
Except for the fact that I like GOB. GOB makes me laugh. Ramon II makes me cry.

The happy tastes like sad...

2006-03-08 20:36:26
84.   Steve
Then we shall call him Lucille II
2006-03-08 20:38:51
85.   D4P
84
I love it! When he makes us nauseous, we can call it our nausea...
2006-03-08 20:42:41
86.   Daniel Zappala
Oh man, we really need the season to start. Everyone here is grousing about which backup infielder to carry. When it doesn't matter because Izturis will take that role.
2006-03-08 20:56:47
87.   Steve
I don't see the mad scramble to get a banjo hitting backup infielder on the roster in any event. Robles is pretty useful as far as he goes, given his plate discipline, but he's still just a backup middle infielder. I suppose the bigger issue is the concern that the Dodgers have not left behind the cronyism that was the hallmark of the previous on-field administration, and in fact, may have now adopted it as a governing principle.
2006-03-08 21:00:40
88.   Steve
If Izturis beats out Lucille II, we'll really know something's wrong.
2006-03-08 21:01:05
89.   thinkingblue
60.

Is Trevor Hoffman then worthless? Chad Cordero? Last I checked, you don't need the 98 fastball all the time when you have the a change up, and curveball like Gagne.

Also, I think you also have to consider the mainstream fans. I mean, he has been the face of the franchize for a while now, and you know, he is one of the few dodgers that we will remember form the Post Piazza-2004 era.

2006-03-08 21:05:57
90.   thinkingblue
89.

Edit:

I mean, you have to think about a lot of fans that stay at dodger stadium the whole 9 innings for the chance of seeing Gagne in the 9th.

2006-03-08 21:06:18
91.   D4P
Lucille II is more of a autoharp hitting backup infielder.
2006-03-08 21:08:44
92.   King of the Hobos
Bowden and Robinson are not happy. So mad that we can look forward to "major player cuts in dramatic numbers on Friday morning."

http://tinyurl.com/mowtt

Call me crazy, but I predict the Marlins finish with a better record. They may not be that bad, but the organization really has become a joke

2006-03-08 21:25:28
93.   Steve
Ryan Church is ours!
2006-03-08 21:28:26
94.   Blu2
69
http://www.neweracap.com/eshop3/2006-world-baseball-classic-detail.cfm?family_group=5642

Cuba Cap

2006-03-08 21:33:50
95.   Uncle Miltie
90- no, but Gagne won't be the best closer in baseball. And that's the kind of money he's going to be looking for. In his prime, Hoffman had a 95 MPH fastball.
2006-03-08 21:35:10
96.   Uncle Miltie
Repko for Church
Izturis for Patterson
The rights to Ramon Martinez for a pair of Jim Bowden's leather pants
2006-03-08 21:39:49
97.   thinkingblue
95. He did? Doubt it, he's always been known for his change up. Think it was more around 90-91.

Also, you have to realize, if he is just around 93, it is still an incredible change of speed to go from that to a 69 rainbow curve.

2006-03-08 21:40:31
98.   Steve
I thought they were just going to cut Ryan Church. I don't see why we would just give Jim Bowden Jason Repko. Jason Repko is way too good for the likes of Jim Bowden.
2006-03-08 21:40:49
99.   rageon
22 - Nate, Gourriel looks incredible. Maybe he just had a good game, but his reputation preceded him. For a 21 year old, I was VERY impressed. In my opinion, he could be starting in the majors TODAY.

About a week ago, I decided to root for Cuba. After today's game, now I'm obsessed with Cuba winning.

Although while watching I though to myself a few times, "I wonder if any of the Cuban players would consider running out to play defense and just keep going. Cuban security wouldn't shot him, would they?" Wouldn't that have to be one of the craziest moments in baseball history?

2006-03-08 21:41:27
100.   thinkingblue
96.
Which Patterson? I know you're not talking about the pitcher right?
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2006-03-08 21:45:36
101.   regfairfield
100 Why on Earth would you not give up Izturis for Patterson?

His fly ball rate is high, which means he'll be worse as a Dodger, but he's certainly worth our backup shortstop.

2006-03-08 21:45:54
102.   King of the Hobos
100 Yes, the pitcher. He wasn't being serious, Bowden is just known for being an idiot and making idiotic trades
2006-03-08 21:48:00
103.   King of the Hobos
I may have interpreted 100 wrong. Do you actually think Izturis is worth more than Patterson? Or do you think Patterson is really good and would require more than Izturis?

Although, ultimately, it was a joke

2006-03-08 21:49:28
104.   Uncle Miltie
Which Patterson? I know you're not talking about the pitcher right?

Please tell me that's a typo. You want the Corey Patterson the outfield (who plays for Orioles)? I would hate to have a pitcher who strikeouts out about a batter an inning.

2006-03-08 21:58:17
105.   Steve
I think Corey Patterson is the only centerfielder Repko outhit, depending on whether you count Marquis Grissom.
2006-03-08 21:58:17
106.   Xeifrank
wow, if Mexico beat Canada 2-0, 2-1 or 1-0 from my understanding of the tie-breaker the USA would NOT advance out of the first round of pool play no matter what happens in Team USA's final game. Not sure what would be the bigger disgrace, Team USA losing to Puerto Rico by 20 points in the Olympics or Team USA not advancing out of the first round in the WBC.
vr, Xei
2006-03-08 21:59:52
107.   Steve
And here I am watching Wojo. Good times.
2006-03-08 22:15:26
108.   natepurcell
i think i am going to watch the cuba game on mlbtv so i can get a look at gourriel.
2006-03-08 22:19:39
109.   natepurcell
okay i just saw gurnicks article on kemp.

i know ST is a time to fluff up the prospects, but give me a break gurnick, kemp would get DESTROYED by major league pitching right now.

a couple days ago, i saw an article by gurnick saying kemp has a strong possibility of skipping AA and starting the season in AAA and i thought that wasnt going to happen. This is absolutely absurd.

2006-03-08 22:20:27
110.   oldbear
The overwhelming sense I get is that Colletti just really likes Martinez.

Good to see the Dodgers are now being run like a corporation after all. Cronyism at its finest. Dusty Baker also loved Ramon Martinez.

So if Ramon Martinez, Lance Carter, and Jason Repko all make the team... Does Jon write a column about how DePo/Colletti really arent that much alike?

2006-03-08 22:27:58
111.   regfairfield
110 I think Repko would probably make the team under DePo, unless DePo signed Nomar to play left.
2006-03-08 22:29:36
112.   natepurcell
ricky ledee hasnt even played yet for PR has he?

is he physically able to play this year?

2006-03-08 22:30:40
113.   Steve
Repko made the team last year under DePo.
2006-03-08 22:36:38
114.   King of the Hobos
112 He got in the game today, had a double in 2 ABs. Puerto Rico has enough OFs that they're liekly just cycling between them right now (Beltran, Williams, Cruz, Ledee, Rios, Matos)
2006-03-08 22:37:52
115.   thinkingblue
101, 102, 103.

Ok, I just failed to see the humor in 96.

Of course I would trade Izzy for Patterson faster than you can say Ned Colleti.

2006-03-08 22:43:03
116.   Steve
114 -- Maybe we can borrow some of theirs
2006-03-08 22:43:13
117.   oldbear
unless DePo signed Nomar to play left

I think this is the sticking point. Keeping Choi/Saenz on the bench has a domino effect on the roster.

2006-03-08 22:46:57
118.   natepurcell
which team has the best lineup in the NL?

i would probably have to say the mets.

beltran, wright, delgado, floyd is a nice middle of the order.

2006-03-08 22:53:21
119.   regfairfield
118 But Reyes and Matsui are a horrible top of the order, plus LoDuca and Nady are no great shakes.

I'd have to say the Reds are my pick, barring injury, and assuming Tony Womack doesn't play.

2006-03-08 22:59:46
120.   das411
Cmon guys, you can't beat the combo of Abreu, Burrell, Howard, and Utley with the non-Lofton Aaron Rowand and Steve's favorite SS Jimmy Rollins on either end!
2006-03-08 23:02:00
121.   Steve
120 -- Get rid of David Bell and you've got a deal. Who do you want, Billingsley or Guzman?
2006-03-08 23:12:17
122.   natepurcell
the pgillies lineup is pretty good too. they could have 4 30hr guys.
2006-03-08 23:13:16
123.   natepurcell
if i were the mets, i would put beltran in the #2 spot and have wright bat third.

reyes (its inevitable)
beltran
wright
delgado
floyd
nady/diaz
lo duca
crap second basemen

2006-03-08 23:23:32
124.   natepurcell
heres a good article on Gourriel.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/features/060302wbccuba3b.html

2006-03-09 06:06:39
125.   MartinBillingsley31
Does anyone know if kuo hamulak osoria have options?

I just found out that both robles and martinez have options and have contracts that allow them to leave if they don't make the team, so the utility infielder spot is wide open.

The reason i'm asking is because i think there are only 4 spot really undecided for the roster, utility infielder (robles martinez aybar) 2 lefties (wunsch kuo hamulak) and long reliever (a long list of guys).

And then of course there is guzman maybe making it over repko.

2006-03-09 07:22:42
126.   King of the Hobos
125 Kuo and Osoria should have options left, not sure about Hamulack.

Options could prevent Repko from the 5th OF spot, as he has options and Cody Ross doesn't. Not sure if Ross would be that big of an upgrade, but at least he's shown consistent power, and his name isn't Jason Repko

2006-03-09 07:45:46
127.   oldbear
Did anyone notice that Tim Hamulack is on the 40man roster, but Kelly Wusch is a NRI?

I really cant see Cody Ross making it. He looked promising when we acquired him coming off his AAA Int'll league season, but I think injuries did him in. He had horrible luck that first year here, including breaking his hand in a car door or something. He's basically Repko without the appearance of scrap. So I dont think he much of a shot.

I'm also wondering if Ryan Ketchner has been resigned? I know the Dodgers took both he and Derek Thompson off the 40 man. Are they still technically with the team?

Guzman, Ledee, Lofton, Drew, and Cruz are the 5 OF'ers I hope they keep. When Werth comes back, hopefully Lofton will be on the DL by then. This is assuming that Werth has his power back when he returns.

2006-03-09 07:52:20
128.   oldbear
Looking at Ketchner's stats at AA, and comparing them to our other pitchers the Dodgers have had there... Man I hope Ketchner gets healthy.

He doesnt give up home runs, he doesnt walk people, and he still has good K rate (not great but good).

In fact, if you compare Ketchner's Jax numbers against Orenduff, Billingsley, Jackson...all the big name guys we've had there. Ketchner's are right up there with the best of them.

2006-03-09 08:14:18
129.   Sam DC
Hey Nate -- I saw a blurb on a nationals blog that milb.com will have gameday for all AAA games this year. No summer job for you buddy!
2006-03-09 08:55:05
130.   Sam DC
Hmmmmm . . . gonna start doing that Oakland thing in DC?

"Although his team scored 12 runs, Robinson didn't like the fact that his players were swinging at the first pitch."

http://tinyurl.com/zgequ

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