If Guzman makes it over Martinez, I assume Repko, Choi, Aybar all make it too correct?

I think he needs to work on his plate discipline, and i don't think he can do that when he's not given an everyday role.
If he's only part time on the dodgers to me he would be up there hacking away to try to impresss.

Just what i think.

Man, i don't know i'm confused.
Grady keeps saying a different thing everyday.

That leaves one spot, up for grabs among Repko, Choi, Ethier, Aybar, Ross and Martinez.

I don't mind seeing Guzman starting the season in Las Vegas. The thing that does worry me is if he starts the season as the Opening Day left fielder in Los Angeles, goes 1-for 20 and the town starts ripping everyone in sight.

I'm mainly thrilled at people recognizing that the team can do better than Martinez.

I love Guzman's potential, but we got a proven major leauger right there in Ramon Martinez

(this place would be goin crazy...)

I'm also not convinced he'd be better than Martinez, this year. I think he probably would be, but I'm not sure anybody has a reliable AA/MLB conversion algorithm. And Little's thinking, that JtD could be a dual purpose (IF/OF) sub seems a little silly. Martinez has, what, one week less OF time than JtD?

I'm agin it, but not foursquare agin it.

1- guzman's bat is still raw
2- his k rate in AA shows he isnt ready yet
3- he needs to play everyday and get consistent at bats so he can improve his outfield play and plate discipline
4- this is going to ruin the las vegas 51s run at the PCL championship!

Good point.

I know i'm a broken record, but i don't expect guzman to outproduce cruz, but i do expect him to outproduce lofton, so if he starts everyday it should be over lofton otherwise send him to AAA.

I still think guzman will be better off seeing more pitches on an everyday basis even tho it might or might not be against lesser talent.

I agree that Guzman's plate discipline is the big issue.

Let's put it this way - if he's going to be overwhelmed in the bigs, than keep him in AAA. If he's going to be challenged, let him apprentice. It's the difference between being overwhelmed and being challenged that I'm trying to suss out.

If he makes outs and he has no idea why, that's no good. If he makes outs that he can learn from, that's another thing.

I do feel defense can be learned off the clock, as it were. Game situations are easily replicated in practice.

i dont think he is going to be challenged, i think he will flat out, fall on his face right now in the majors. Probably jason repko 2005 production but with more ISOp.

i think i might want him to be in vegas for selfish reasons. i mean, come on, who doesnt want to see a vegas lineup of

2b aybar
c martin
cf ethier
lf guzman
3b laroche
1b loney
rf young

!!!!!

SS Martinez

Jon, meet Nate. Nate, Jon.

i would if i could. :)

If you turn him into Jason Guzman, I will hunt you down.

vikings get steve hutchinson. it was a hard fought battle with the special master ruling in the vikings favor. seattle declined to match the contract at 12ET tonight. yay!

is the difference in production between a guzman and a lucille II for the beginning of thsi year that important to possibly ruin or stagnetize (i think i just made up a word) guzman's offensive progress?

i think its in guzman's best long term interest to star the year in AAA and get 300+ or so AAA ABs before being called up.

the vikings signed hutchinson to a 7 yr 49 mil offer sheet with 16mil gaurenteed. The thing was, to keep seattle from matching the contract, the vikings place a "poison pill" into the contract language stating that if hutchinson isnt the highest paid offensive linemen on the team he is on in 2006, then the whole 49 million contract would have to be gaurenteed and paid up front as a signing bonus.

since seattle had walter jones with a larger contract then hutchinson, the poison pill would automatically apply to them if they choose to match. They thought this was unfair so they wanted a special master to decide if the poison pill clause was valid.

billingsley and loney were suprising.

Oh, and put me down on the start Guzman in AAA camp (with the feeling, and it's just a feeling, that he'll be up before mid-season...)

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but he did talk really loud and slow to mataszuka.

The sad part is, the same might be said about Vegas.

I think starting Guzman in Triple-A is the way to go. My guess is that Griddle is just acknowledging Guzman's nice spring camp and pumping him up a little bit. Pretty good move on Griddle's part. Let the kid know that if he's versatile and hungry, he might get up here sooner than expected.

Wouldn't it serve the Dodgers' best interest and, as many have noted, Guzman's best interests if he stays at AAA to start out the year?

Just thought I'd make an economic argument that the marginal cost of bringing up Guzman wouldn't justify the marginal benefit of having him learn with the big club...

I would never compare it to rotten eggs.

I have no opinion on Guzman.

It's GRITTLE, you want to talk about.

54 - File that one under "Someone is skipping straight to the chat without reading my posts" :)

Personally I would look for a package deal with Cody Ross for a AA trainer and frequent flyer miles.

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Although this sort of thing caused bad blood in Tampa Bay, the situation is a little different here.

62 I wonder what set of eyes, Steve is on?

Interesting comment, considering the amount of time that Winfield spent in AAA (none).

Repko LF
Robles SS
Cruz CF
Saenz 1B
Ledee RF
Mueller 3B
Martin C
Martinez 2B
Sele P

But my boy martin is.

That tells me that martinez has made the team.
so its alomar saenz ledee repko martinez.
How many of the above are lefthanded, better question how many are powerhitting lefthanders, the only lefthander is ledee, my guess would be that the lefthander with the most power (choi) makes the team.

And i doubt that happens.
It would be foolish to use guzman as a pinch hitter.

Hey, i wouldn't be surprised to see choi make the team, we have only 1 powerhitting lefthander on the bench in ledee.

That's right, i need to stop thinking like depodesta and start thinking like flanders.
LOL!

We're in bizarro territory when the right-handed murderers row of Alomar, Martinez and Repko opens the door for Choi.

Has anyone successfully done it for the Dodgers in the last 25 years?

Both Garvey and Buckner made the '70 Dodgers out of Spring Training, didn't hit, and were sent down after a month. Didn't seem to hinder their development much.

Hopefully Werth gets healthy by June and permanently takes Repko's job.

Bench looking mighty weak with Martinez, Robles, Alomar, Repko, Saenz, Ledee.

Exactly. I dont think the Dodgers are being ran that way anymore though.

I'd rather have lofton on the bench than any of the predicted bench players except saenz and ledee.

I'm glad to see Abercrombie doing well. The guy is a great defender, but he has zero plate discipline.

Nice hitting by Lance Carter.

So much those who argue Ned has added depth.
Four of them are Depo guys and the other two are not an upgrade.

Darkly, one hears things like, "and punches out Repko for the second time today," and can only wonder whether the '05 season has yet truly ended.

The pun