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Jeff Kent is, not surprisingly at this point, going to the disabled list. And still caught up in Prospect Fever, the Dodgers have recalled Joel Guzman (despite his May slump). Inside the Dodgers reports.
Guzman is not in the starting lineup tonight, but we do have the four-rookie combo of Matt Kemp (batting second), Willy Aybar, Andre Ethier and Russell Martin. Ramon Martinez is healthy enough to play second base. Perhaps soon, though, we'll have Guzman at third base and Aybar at second to give the team five rookie starters. And then all eyes will be on Chad Billingsley to make it six ...
Update: A new starting lineup has Olmedo Saenz at third base and Aybar at second base tonight.
Update 2: Matt Kemp's first home run, as called by Vin Scully. (Who else would you want to call it?)
Fastball is whacked down the left-field line, in the corner and ... fair ball! Home run, Matt Kemp.
Though I'm sure it has happened, I don't recall any Dodgers specifically hitting a ball as high off the left-field foul pole as Kemp did.
Update 3: Dodger manager Grady Little confirmed to Ken Gurnick of MLB.com that Guzman will play some third base. Gurnick added that "Little said (Bill) Mueller is healing 'slowly' from May 16 right knee surgery, which can be interpreted to mean the five-week prognosis for his return might have been overly optimistic." Cesar Izturis and/or Kent could be activated before Mueller returns.
Among the other disabled, Gurnick reports that only Dioner Navarro is showing progress. Ricky Ledee, Jason Repko, Jayson Werth and of course Yhency Brazoban are not near (to varying degrees) returning.
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"Why don't you open the door, Joel. That way, you see, I can call a cab."
4 - I don't share your concerns for the long term, but I agree I am surprised by the callup when he hasn't really had much of a season offensively, or defensively from what I can tell. But I don't think it's a big deal, and it's fine if they want him just to get a taste of MLB.
I do not think Guzman will ever learn plate discipline in the minors. I think he is one of those guys that at some point in his career realizes he has to change his approach a bit to be really successful.
He deserved the call up over both Robles and Loney.
SS- Furcal
2b- Aybar
1b- Nomar
2b- Drew
LF- Ethier
CF- Kemp
C- Martin
3b- Guzman
Just let these guys plays everyday.
Its all good.
10 - That seems a bit much.
Because thats where he's hitting tonite.
Interesting to say the least.
I like Crawford too...but do we really need ANOTHER lead off hitter?
In five years, the Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano, Boof Bonser for A.J. Pierzynski trade will look worse than D4P.
2004 - 554 PA's 122K:34W (3.6:1)
2005 - 496 PA's 128K:42W (3.0:1)
2006 - 211 PA's 42K:15W (2.8:1)
At least its improvment, and he's got the strikouts under control in AAA. It seems like he still needs 400-600 PA in AAA, but he seems to be improving at his most glaring weakness.
30 - Since outs are easier to come by in Jacksonvile, since he's more of a threat to hit a home run in Las Vegas, since there is therefore more reason to walk him this year, I'm not sure that's a significant improvement this year.
Beyond that, he just hasn't been hitting that much for Las Vegas. But maybe he's been unlucky. I really have no idea. All I know his, his offense has been unimpressive for Vegas.
Starting him at 3B would be forcing the issue. He's neither quick nor agile. Third is no better than his fourth-best position.
As for Guzman's hitting of late, the best that can be said about it is he's walking at a career-best rate -- 12 walks in May, after drawing just three walks in April (24 games).
But in May, he batted just .250 (84 at-bats) with two 2Bs and three HRs. Accounting for PCL inflation, that's more in line with the SS/Guzman that Bowden gave $16 million.
The safest bet is to spot him in LF and 1B, preferably against pitchers who can't tie up that long swing with inside fastballs.
It's this kind of generalization that I wish we could avoid. (Putting aside the fact that I bet most Dodger fans still don't know who Carl Crawford is, or don't know him enough to have an opinion of him.) In any case, I know plenty of Dodger fans who consistently prefer the grass on this side of the fence.
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His EqA (which is park adjusted) was .281, above average for a corner outfield and that doesn't even factor in his top notch defense. Crawford is locked up through 2010 at a reasonable. While Ethier will be cheaper during this time period, it is very unlikely that he'll outproduce Crawford, and I'm guessing that it won't even be close. Ethier is a nice player and with Drew being so injury prone, it should help us to have a more than capable backup. There's nothing wrong with Ethier being a backup. I think you are overestimating what Ethier is capable of doing based on very small sample sizes.
The argument shouldnt be between Crawford and Ethier, it should be between Crawford and whatever it takes to pry him from the DRays.
5. . .4. . .3. . .
I'm feeling very satisfied after my success with "The Bison" and I'm not going to push it.
55. Mitchell has a football-baseball scholarship to Tulane, I think, he might fall to the third round. Maybe I shouldve said Trayvon Robinson, he is a hometown kid anyway.
Only 25 more innings, D-Backs! You can do it!
Then again, we know how the LA media reacts to big, slow-swinging 1B who aren't particularly quick and hit for power. =P
Well, the media gave a free pass to Eric Karros.
23 "Joel" never existed in Latin.
lol.
I REALLY don't want to talk about Crawford that much anymore, but I will stick up for Guzman.
You're saying we might be rushing Guzman because he doesn't have any plate discipline? He's only 21.
Crawford has shown very little discipline at the major league level for a few years now, and is older than Guzman.
If we can get Crawford for say, Izturis, do it. But otherwise, please no.
GREAT reading every 3 outs:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
I get a bit uncomfortable when rookies become a certain critical mass, and when we pass that I believe it will begin to tell.
But it may not be so bad to give them a taste, if it doesn't keep getting worse.
WWSH
I'm sure it'll even out in the end.
WWSH
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But it's not like Floyd's an established veteran.
WWSH
Can't understand that comment. He has 44 singles out of 57 hits. That is hardly the % of an all or nothing hitter. He has the reputation of a home run hitter but not the numbers to back it up yet. At this moment he's known more for the batting practice shots then the shots he hits in real games.
But I'm not going to get all shook up by his Vegas stats. Last year I focused to much on the vapid numbers of Aybar in AAA and look what he did during his stint.
But as Vin explained, Lowe wouldn't have been swinging away if Martin had still been on base.
WWSH
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Gavin Floyd was once upon a time the top pitching prospect for the Phillies.
A smart GM could have gotten Utley awfull cheap 2 years ago when the Phillies kept playing Polanco instead of him.
But there is no doubt the biggest change from last year in the quality of the players we have been able to bring up.
However, we will need Kent to come back to provide the solid 3-4-5 punch and pick up another starter but I am beginning to believe that the outfield situation is getting brighter and brighter.
I think he looks more like Ray Liotta.
Robles
and, re: update 2 - the hr was off the left field pole, i believe.
Lofton CF
Lucille 2B
Furcal SS
Nomar 1B
Drew RF
Saenz 3B
Alomar/Martin C
Ethier LF
177 -- an excellent point.
Woot! Nice homer by Martin!
(Took Steiner about 10 minutes to determine it was gone.)
No, it's Los Angeles.
PS - I love the nickname Bucs and I did I have one of those Willie Stargell striped hats.
PSS - Vin always made it a point to refer to him by his proper name Wilver.
BTW - Charley Steiner is just a tad better at calling home runs than Rick Monday but that is like saying that the traffic is a tad better during morning rush hour then afternoon rush hour.
Ugh. I also don't like "Si-to" instead of "Si-ee-to".
His voice is nice, too. He's a little excitable, but not too bad. I like Steiner better than I liked Ross.
I've felt like his only fan since he debuted last season.
And just wait til later on tonight when you can actually watch Little out-manage somebody!! W00t!
Plus, I blame Steiner for "Ee-thee-er" instead of "Eth-ee-ay."
I liked Steiner making Doobie Brothers and Pretty Boy Floyd references there...
So, when Vin's gone, what are the chances of getting Sutton to come over? Or is there a better option?
perhaps partially because i knew i would be hearing vin very soon.
Augh, you're killing me. I love Coldstone. Banana ice cream with choclate chips. Perhaps the best food ever invented.
(Been gone a few days. Seemed like ice cream was the best place to jump back in.)
i will always be a fan of steiner simply because of the classic sportscenter commercial: "follow me, to freedom!"
that's what i get for having multiple browsers open. sorry.
222 - Then you will LOVE Ryan "Gascan" Franklin!
232 Because I was in the other room, and I was totally uninspired when I heard it. Maybe it's my fault, it's too hot in Columbus.
How did you do it?
Kemp is really impressing me with his plate discipline. I don't think he's had a bad at bat since his first game in the majors.
Somebody needs to make a special project for K Loft.
GRRRR.
When was the last time an injured Dodger returned from a serious (i.e., DL-worthy) ahead of schedule?
Soon, I may be the first fan ever to send hate mail to a trainer.
Were those 40 points in BOTH your diastolic and systolic or were they apportioned between the two?
Gagne certainly seems to always return quickly once the worst-case scenario is offered, which bothers me.
And can anybody name two of the stars of it.
Without looking it up.
I will say Aybar, Kemp, and Martin are more entertaining than Mueller, Lofton, and Alomar.
"Chase" was created by Stephen J. Cannell. It was one of his earliest TV shows.
One might add it was not among his finest work.
256 - Chase Utley and Bobby Abreu? Is this what ESPN will use to fill the "Bonds on Bonds" timeslot? Please??
A sub 2-hour game in the AL.
But we will get to see the bullpen tonight.
Point is, I'm growing weary players getting hurt and staying that way.
Will Carroll says Tampa Bay, a notoriously bad organization, has the best training staff in the majors. What are they doing in the Trop that can't be done in Chavez Ravine?
It was a slowball.
Of course as recently as 40 years ago, a 1:57 game wouldn't have raised any eyebrows.
If he starts pitching 2-3 relief innings at a time, they just might be getting ready for that.
I hope the Dodgers are breaking him in like Francisco Liriano. An arm that good is wasted being a middle reliever.
This should not be the case within organization but if I worked there, I'd agree that the condition of the players on the disabled list would not be openly shared with the media.
Oh.
speaking of talented pitchers stuck in the bullpen, i read on another board that Greg Miller gave an interview on a LV radio station and he said that they are building up his stamina this year with the hopeful thought of turning him back into a starter next year.
actually, it hasnt even been one year yet. They converted him in late june/early july of last year.
I don't recall Dodger fans waving syringes at Bonds. I think there were some handheld signs and lots of booing. But I don't recall "syringes".
I've yet to read any quotes from Broxton or the Dodgers that would confirm any of that.
Are their any articles referencing these points?
That is what I was expecting. Good news to hear.
I think a lot of us like to hope that there is some conspiracy or internal foul up but I think when you get guys who have an injury or conditioninig issues (see Ledee's hamstrings) you take a calculated risk. So far they have been fortunate with Garciaparra and Drew and less so with Mueller and Kent.
If I'm reading the description of the gnu correctly, I believe they are kosher.
I don't know. The 5th spot might be a little high for Beimel...
I do agree the Dodgers seem to have messed up Jayson Werth though. Maybe he'll file a malpractice lawsuit agains the Dodgers team doctors. For a guy to come back and play last year, and then find out there was a mis diagnosis and need surgery, was a total foul up.
The issue is keeping players healthy, and if they're hurt restoring their health. I'd say the Dodgers training staff are fine on the first part, but an injured player 'round these parts tends to stay hurt for a long time.
292 - That's true. But if you're GM, wouldn't that drive you nuts? You need accurate diagnoses to plan. If Flash Fragile is out for a week, you can probably scrape by with Bob Benchwarner and Ron Replacement. But if you're told Flash will be back in a week when he's really out for a month, you might not look at other, better options because, hey, why overreact to a player missing a week?
Its my opinion that he was converted last year bc it was the fastest way for him to get to the big leagues. The Dodgers needed bullpen help after Gagne went down last year, so he was most likely guy. I'm sure he did actually have weight/endurance issues down there, but its not like they demoted him from starting bc he couldnt hack it. Broxton was a pretty good starter at AA and A.
Hamburger
Turkey burger
"Buffalo" burger
Muskox burger
Caribou burger
Ostrich burger
Veggie burger
I have not had a gnuburger.
274 -- Another way of looking at that is realizing how many times we've been up by seven.
How big is he? What kind of stance?
Protective gear on his elbow/shin?
Broxton has said he likes reliving more than starting now.
http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060524&content_id=1470613&vkey=news_la&fext=.jsp&c_id=la
Swing and a miss, taken high, soft groundball into 5-4-3 DP.
Learn it. Live it.
He wears a helmet.
I haven't checked to see if he wears a cup. I'll get back to you on that.
I think Rick Monday is drunk, but isn't he always?
Better than squirrel, I can tell you that.
The Dodgers now have their Nos. 3, 4, 5, and 8 prospects on their big league roster. (Per Baseball America) Willy Aybar was No. 17, I believe.
Of the other 6, who is most likely to be added before September.
1. Chad Billingsley
2. Andy LaRoche
6. Scott Elbert
7. Blake DeWitt
9. Tony Abreu
10. Chin-Lung Hu
I am guessing Chad will be up within the next 2 months, the rest still have AA and AAA to conquer.
well after the obvious billingsley, it isnt very obvious after that.
If a team wanted me to go back to starting, I'd rather be relieving," he said. "I'd rather go out for one or two innings and let it loose than try to stretch it over seven or eight innings. This is a lot of fun
Thats too bad. Maybe Broxton will change his mind when he looks at what relievers make, and what starters are paid. I know I had read a quote about Greg Miller not being able to start either. Hopefully it changes.
All of those Rookie of Year guys were never part of a group like the guys we have now.
billingsley for sure. maybe laroche depending if he continues to hit in june and july like he did in may.
I'd rather go out for one or two innings
Let's hope the "or two innings" part actually has some teeth to it. Grittle's been pretty good on that so far.
Nate, who do you call up...Kuo or Miller??
Well played gents, now you see where my winterlong Lowe + Navarro for Abreu + Bell + Lieberthal quest came from. If only we had offered you Gavin Floyd also...
That would be a real tragedy.
I had thought Gagne might be in danger of not being a Dodger after this season. However, Jeff Kent's extension rendered those concerns obsolete I believe. I cant see the Dodgers letting Gagne go if they are willing to re-up Kent. Fiscal responsibility isnt in the mission statement.
Middle relievers are guys like Carter and Hamulack, not Broxton and Miller
I agree. It what makes it difficult watching them in those roles.
ABC is showing the word on screen before it is spelled, which is like telling us Kemp homered before his swing.
Colletti gave a 39yr old Kent 11.5 mils.
Do you really believe Gagne wont get his 12 mils?
Also, Loney grounded into a double play, so they're playing extra innings in Vegas
Got tickets for tomorrow and Saturday. Hope to see something similair to tonights lineup though I'm sure Martin will be missing from one of those games.
The crowd was all kinds of lively tonight. (Maybe because it was trader joe's dodger bag giveaway night?) The first attempt at the wave made it around the park three times.
There was a huge "We want Gagne chant" in the middle of the 8th inning. A couple of innings earlier, Gagne stepped out into the open area of the bullpen to a massive ovation from the surrounding areas... Joel Guzman simply looks too big to play the infield, although I'm not saying that's a reason he shouldn't. Ignorant to both his callup and his wearing of #50, I was shocked to see some random huge guy come out to take infield during half-innings... And of course, seeing Kemp's first career homer was un-friggin-believable. There weren't any plays that made me think he was either an extraordinary or subpar glove in center.
Think Blue (:
All the minor league umps are supposed to be back by June 12.
http://www.chieftain.com/sports/1149229438/5
"You're moving on up in the world," Lowe told Kemp. "You're like George and Weezy from the TV show `The Jeffersons.' Movin' on up."
Coming from Lowe, there has to be racist undertones in that comment.
Kemp is moving on up to the Westside.
In answer to your questions, there's a limit on coaches and you'd still have to carry him around on the 40-man roster.
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All speculation at this point, as he notes, but if you have any thoughts (or inside information) feel free to contribute. Who would you trade for Greg Maddux? Would it be worth trading for someone who, as great as he is, probably wouldn't give you much more than months of service - I'm assuming he's only under contract through the end of this season?
I know this was a long time ago, in reference to the Charlie Steiner Experience, but I'm just getting around to the comments now (watched the game on TiVo, and didn't want to know what happened).
Anyhoo, "Sigh-toe" is correct. Yes, the "i" is a separate vowel in Japanese, but when it follows another vowel (other than "u") the two vowels are run together as a single syllable.
So Kaz Ishii's surname also has only two syllables, albeit with the last one extended. So, ee-SHEEEE, not EE-she or ee-she-ee. No glottal stops between the "i"s (ahem).
http://tinyurl.com/fljqt
So I can't use the word without chuckling. Plus, I always worry that I might be insulting someone...
Pitcher Scott Erickson, who started the game for the Orioles and was in line to get the win before Armando Benitez served up the fateful pitch in the eighth inning to Jeter, said he hopes Maier makes it to the major leagues, "just so I can drill him -- I'd like to get one shot at him."
Not only would Maier be able to get out of the way of Scotty's 83 mph "fast"ball, Jeff, being a banjo hitter, would probably hit a homer off of him. Only then would Erickson's failure be complete.
Oh, that's right. I'm supposed to be working.
Good thing we weren't counting on E Jackson for the 2006 season. Got pounded again yesterday and now has an ERA over 6.00 in AAA. I thought he was going to come around but he's quickly following the Hannrahan route of ex-prospect. To bad, I had real high hopes for him.
That is probably the right thing to do but I'm happy he didn't pitch last night so I have a better chance of seeing him tonight or tomorrow.
(channeling Napoleon Dynamite):
"Closers can ONLY pitch when it's a save situation. GOSH!"
I would love to see MLB change the save rule back to a 2-run (or up to a 4-run) threshold, just to see if managers changed their reliever useage patterns based on the stat. It's just semantics, but it's amazing the hold it has over players, coaches, and writers. Remember Billy Wagner's "it's not my fault I blew a 4-run lead, because I'm only supposed to hold 3-run leads" [paraphrased] comments earlier this year?
Werth can regain his prowess if healthy. He's a good baseball player.
Martin needs some rest and I hope Navarro delivers it. Aybar is doing fine but we need Kent's power if we plan on being an elite team. Aybar at 3rd is fine for me with Kent at 2nd.
The rest of the DL players could just dissapear and I wouldn't notice now that Gagne is back.
The trading chip list just keeps growing. Izzy, Repko, Ledee, Robles, Mueller?(must agree to a trade since he signed as a FA), Baez, Carter, LaRoche, Seo, OP, Navarro(something sweet must be returned). Granted some of these guys wouldn't fetch a bad walnut but you never know what some GM might covet.
Germantown, Md.: Where do you think the writers of "The Office" will go with Jim and Pam kissing? Pam calling off the wedding? Or an affair? As much as I would love to see them together, I think their secret love for each other was one of the main reasons people watched. Aside from the fact that is a hilarious show.
Lisa de Moraes: It's on NBC so I suspect that in the fall, they will carry on as if it had never happened. Like what used to happen on "Friends" every week....
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