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I can't think. I can't think about anything else.
The Neel column got me all choked up.
can you link me to the neel column?
thanks!
http://tinyurl.com/m5j9w
Just trying to break up Jon.
http://tinyurl.com/p82mu
http://tinyurl.com/p82mu
Eric Neel, page 2 ESPN.com
Jerry Crasnick, ESPN.com
Joe Sheehan, Baseball Prospectus
Shows that I have heard replays of Steiner's HR calls:
Mike and Mike in the Morning, espnradio
Dan Patrick Show, espnradio
Morning show on XM MLB 175
The only thing that could have made life perfect as a Dodger fan was if the Giants were losing at the same time and their pitching was imploding, giving up, I don't know, 20 runs or something.
The Padres are of course only a half game out but they don't play anyone else like they the Dodgers and after the previous two series with the Dodgers, the Padres have proceeded to lose the next series while the Dodgers have gone 24-2 (17-1, the first time, 7-1, the next time).
22 - Isn't Prime Ticket showing the two-hour version right now? That's what I set my TiVo for, because last night's game was 3:53 and my recording cut off.
Hah.
"if this is a lecture on how we're all supposed to whatever and blah-blah-blah, well, you can save it, because we all know it by heart."
My girlfriend always makes fun of me, comparing me to Jimmy Fallon's character in Fever Pitch. Well, there's that scene in the movie where his buddy calls him that he missed one of the greatest games in Red Sox history. It was like that last night - one of the greatest games I've ever seen. The only differences with the movie - I was lucky enough to be at the Stadium and my girlfriend was jumping for joy right next to me.
Goose Bumps.
I'll get our office TV tuned to FSN in an hour, just in time for some fireworks. :)
And that's saying something.
602. Bob Timmermann
Umm.... Umm.... Uhh.... What? Huh? Whaaa?
Like a lot of people, I went to bed before the game was over. I called three runs for the Dodgers in the bottom of the 8th, with Saito closing it out in the ninth. When it didn't happen, I figured my mojo ran out so I went to sleep. I woke up this morning and was flabbergasted. I read many of the comments, but then -- whoops -- I had to go to work because I had a class to teach. I setup my Tivo to tape Sportscenter, but I'm out of area so I can't get a FSN replay. I wanted to show the MLB highlights to my class, but couldn't find a way to tie it into a senior CS lecture.
This is like a dream to me, because there was no way that could happen. I still won't believe it fully until I can watch it myself, maybe by buying the game through MLB.
There is magic in baseball.
Embree and Adkins were both yanked early. All the other pitchers stuck out their innings.
"Seanez faced 2 batters in the 10th inning."
The Jimmy Fallon version is not nearly as good as the Colin Firth version, which I think isn't half bad.
That only made what happened a few days later very painful.
My question is whether last night changes all of that?
You can't rewrite decades of history in one night. Bobby Thompson's shot still happened. But I must tell you I can't wait for the next LA v SD matchup.
Hopefully it comes this post season... with the dodgers holding the home field advantage.
The UCLA comeback against Gonzaga was also unlikely in that UCLA didn't make any three pointers nor did they deliberately foul during the comeback.
As for last night, I went to bed after the eighth inning. The morning paper was sweet though!
Oh to be the poor souls who had enough after 8, and to be the guy who just had to make sure his scorebook showed that he was there 'til the very end - where is Roger Angell when you need him?
The Jimmy Fallon movie was technically "based on the book by Nick Hornby," but I knew going in that it really had nothing to do with the book. So with that mindset, I was ok with it. Plus, it was a romantic comedy that my then-girlfriend dragged me to see, and at least it had some baseball themes to keep me interested.
that was me as well, even my boss looked like a little kid in a candy store talking about last nights game.
Last night was just so improbable I was in a state of bliss. I was just walking around smiling, excited, but surprisingly calm.
btw, notice how all the features on the sports sites (yahoo sports, ESPN, si, etc.), are already back focusing on the mets and yankees? Because we can't devote more than half a day to a team not located in the East... sickening...
http://tinyurl.com/esda7
I had always thought Andrew would be more of a Jennifer Granholm type, but maybe he prefers senators to governors.
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9670490
"You didn't tell me your wife was so beeyoot{{BELCH}}tiful!"
When Furcal hit one out early in the game, I said to myself, "Man, Furcal's been tearing it up!"; When Marlon tripled in the eighth, I said "Man, that Marlon's been a pretty good pick up."; When Drew hit the second home run of the ninth, I said "Gee, that ball was way gone!"; When Marlon tied the game, I said "AAAAAAAAAYYYYyEEEE!"; when Nomar hit his walkoff, I cried.
can you ask him why he dons't speak spanish if he is of Mex desent, why didn't his parent teach him & so forth. i've always wondered that.
Lots of great quotes from that article.
Or, as Drew said of his team's ninth- and 10th-inning attack: "That's just a lot of home runs saved up over the season. We've been saving them up for a game when we really needed them."
David Ortiz's legacy is that all batters who hit game-ending home runs now flip off their helmets after they round third. Both Martin and Nomar did it.
I don't recall if Ramon Martinez did.
my kind of guy
After rewatching the last part of the game again myself (after downloading), I still get goosebumps. And a certain part of me, especially now that we've evened out the pain from that April game, wants the Padres to make the playoffs, too. As much as I don't like them, I respect them and would feel bad if this game ruined their psyche so much that they can't come back and make it, and they're better than they playoff pretenders.
I also was reminded of how much I love Vin Scully after rewatching.
I carpool with a woman whose parents were second generation Mexican immigrants and spoke Spanish. They refused to let her speak Spanish growing up.
I think a lot of it has to do with a desire for assimilation.
One of my nephews, who was born in Guatemala, no longer speaks Spanish. He lost almost all of it within a year. I wish I had a young brain and could learn a new language that fast!
I would talk to him last year in Spanish (as a 7-year old) and try really hard to get the gender right for nouns and use the right tense. Now he talks to me on the phone like he's a Guatemalan Sir John Gielgud.
i heard that back in the 60's teachers didn't let you speak spanish at all i think that has something to do with it, i also heard they use too hit you with a ruler if you spoke spanish, now i have my opinion about that but i rather keep it to my self.
That is indeed correct. Spanish was not supposed to be spoken in the public or private schools in those days.
I would think that a further discussion of bilingual education will run as aground on the rocky reef of rule #5.
#1. Halloween, 2001. Dbax-Yanks. For the 2nd nite in a row, Byung-Kim gives up a 2-out game tying HR to the Yankees. Given the backdrop of post 9-11, this is probably the most unbelievable thing I've ever seen. Game 3 was amazing but Game 4 was off the charts unbelievable bc no one was thinking it could happen two nites in a row. I was actually rooting for the Yankees, so when it happened it was exhilirating.
#2. Kirk Gibson's HR. Game 1, 1988. If only bc I had no hope the Dodgers could win down 2 outs, no one on, against Eck.
#3. Last nite's game.
Those are the 3 baseball moments that I've questioned what I'm really saying.
I'm wondering what other games that people have seen that have made them think the impossible had just happened.
Football/Basketball I've seen alot more, but baseball I think are these 3 games.
haha thats awesome.
Marlon Anderson's reactions (as he ran the bases, as he high-fived after crossing home plate) remind me of Milton Bradley's energy after a big play.
This is number two for me, next to Gibson's home run.
the guy actually has a sense of humer. :o)
I know what you mean, Jon.
I was up till 2:30 here on the East Coast, and I've been useless all day except when it came to writing that thing up for my site. If you haven't had enough yet:
http://tinyurl.com/l4nkj
That is my wish anyway!!
Just finished watching the highlights ( again )
Whooo!
David Ortiz wasn't the first to do it. It doesn't feel good to have your head banged on while wearing a helmet.
77- hilarious, though I hope that Lowe isn't relapsing.
So major major thanks go out to greenchris for 31!
Strangely enough, one moment thet sticks out in my mind is when Kenny Lofton scored from second on a wild pitch during the 1997 world series. Now, that was an exciting series.
The 2004 Finley game.
The 1974 (I think) 55-24 USC over Notre Dame after being down 24-0
The Horry shot against the Kings
OJ's 64 yard run to beat UCLA
For things I can't believe I heard on the radio:
Koufax' perfect game
Jerry West's 65 footer to tie the Knicks
--Lakers down 15 in game 7 vs Blazers. That 4th quarter was crazy.
--Illinois down 15 with 4minuts left vs Arizona in 2005
--Rams win the Super Bowl, Mike Jones tackle on the 1yrd line, Warner to Bruce just befor that.
--Kordell Stewart hail mary vs Michigan
--Finley's HR
--Gibson's HR
--Yankees-Dbax game 4
"Hell, we missed the fourth one because we were over there in the dugout talking with Julio Lugo about bunting," drawled Little, who was in the process of sending Lugo up to hit for Wilson Betemit following the Anderson at-bat.
Kenny Lofton led off the bottom of the 10th by drawing a walk from Seanez, and. ... Little deadpanned: "When we get a leadoff hitter on, we always talk about whether we're going to bunt. After that inning, shoot, we weren't going to bunt."
I'm also on the East Coast and on a rare night I stay up with Gameday...tho last night I had other things to do, and went to bed with the score 4-2. Left Gameday on and checked it in the morning...and got the story.
Then went to Dodgers.com and looked at the highlights...they had pretty lengthy interviews with Kent, JD and Nomar. As a group I would have to say they are pretty inarticulate, tho at least Nomar seemed happy. JD did allow himself a smile or two. Kent -- man what a buzzkill. I can see why teammates let him sit in the corner with his music and cycle mags. But as long as he keeps hitting he is OK by me.
http://www.celsius1414.com/node/1142
Thank goodness we stayed. :)
Is anyone else feeling unready for viewing a game tonight? I feel like I need a break and I'm just a fan. I worry about a letdown tonight... but hopefully Kuo will have his good stuff.
-The Kirk Gibson game.
-The Steve Finley game.
-The Marlon Anderson game.
-1988 NLCS Game 4 (the Mike Scioscia game).
-Lakers' 15-point comeback vs. Portland in Game 7.
-Horry's shot to beat the Kings.
-Fisher's shot to beat the Spurs.
-Kobe's 81-point game.
-1990 USC-UCLA football game (Todd Marinovich vs. Tommy Maddox).
-1995 UCLA-Missouri (the Tyus Edney game).
-2006 UCLA-Gonzaga (the Adam Morrison tearfest game).
What are we calling this? So far, I've seen The Four Homer Game (do I need a hyphen between "four" and "homer?") and The Marlon Anderson Game.
My vote, FWIW, is for The Marlon Anderson Game, but I will abide by the majority's decision.
The Marlon Anderson/4 Homers Game
I guess my question is: Is Marlon worth singling out for praise in the name of the game? As he is an unheralded player in the game of his life -- and, specifically, it was he who hit the historic fourth homer -- I think yes.
http://tinyurl.com/zva9j
"You let a Dodger game do that to you?" she asked with that debate-with-a-four-year-old look.
"Sweets, you can't buy this kind of high. They can do it to me anytime. And by the way, I'm hoping for a lot more disorientation the next few weeks."
Pavillion5
When I was a teenager, the Lakers were my primary interest, not the Dodgers. But, somehow, despite devotedly following them throughout the ninties I had to work through Game 7 of the Conference Finals against Portland. I'd missed my favorite teams most dramatic game; a spirited comeback in a game with huge concequence. I'll always regret not being there for that. I won't anymore.
Steiner sounds like a maniac on that call, or maybe it's just that A.Martinez sounds so calm & collected?
Of course, we would not have had the dramatic game ending.
Never mind...things happen they way they happen for a reason.
Furcal, SS
Lofton, CF
Garciaparra, 1B
Kent, 2B
Drew, RF
Martin, C
Anderson, LF
Betemit, 3B
Kuo, P
So if you assume the same result, it would have been first and third, one out, with Lofton up, and he'd still ground into the double play.
But even that game, as wonderful as it was, didn't have anything to compare to 4 consecutive homers.
1. Miracle On Ice
2. Gibson HR
3. Horry shot.
4. LA Kings down 5-0 and winning vs Oilers.
5. Fisher shot.
6. 4 HR game
7. Lakers v Portland game 7 comeback
8. Tyus Edney layup
9. Cal/Stanford kickoff return debacle
10. Tom Watson holing out a chip to win US Open
Kent: The tough, crabby veteran who is demanding success because he knows his time is short;
Drew: the easygoing Southerner who quietly works his way into the middle of every successful game;
Martin: probably my favorite player, with his rookie maturity, his skill on both offense and defense, and his amazing dancing Dad;
Anderson, the quintessential journeyman, late-season pickup, taken for granted by baseball fans, who comes in and gives the team a crucial push.
Not to overlook what Nomar did, and Lofton playing the Mike Davis role.
And, not to overlook Penny's crucial recovery of his form after the poor first inning.
The other thing about this team: It's the first time I can recall that I actually like and respect the manager. I wasn't even an Alston fan, although he was obviously a good one. Lasorda was embarrassing and, later, detrimental. Russell, Johnson, Tracy...ugh. Little: Kinda cool. Sense of humor about himself. Owns up to mistakes. Pushes the right buttons (ach, the cliche!)
One more thing. You might want to consider naming this game after the bugaboo the Dodgers so definitively overcame: Trevor Hoffman. This was the Trevor Hoffman game. I believe if we say that enough times, he will no longer be a threat.
Sorry for the long post.
It's been like this all day. I'm useless. I have a softball game tonight and I'm actually kind of worried that I'll hurt myself because I'm still so pumped up.
It was great being at the Steve Finley homerun game, but that games didn't have the sustained anguish that this game had. I really resigned myself to losing a couple of times last night. And it was just so surreal. I don't think I've ever honestly had the thought before that what was going on on the tv could not really be happening. And I definitely thought that last night.
And, well, you can't overlook the Red Sox defeat of the Yankees in the...uh..."Dave Roberts game."
And whenever I want to bug my relatives up north, all I have to say is: "Game 6." The Scott F-ing Spezio Game. That was exciting.
This one belongs with all those.
Who's with me?!
vr, Xei
Four-sum and then sum?
First four in 40 FTW?
4-Jack attack?
I'm hungry.
It even looks good this way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSNV2cQanlU
vr, Xei
LOL
178 & 179 is last night's game by inning, top; bottom, and by the Dodger deficit.
Said the heck with it. Went to bed. Feeling
bummed.
What a difference a good night's sleep makes!
http://tinyurl.com/fqec8
Anderson Hernandez - SS
Endy Chavez - CF
Lastings Milledge - LF
Julio Franco - 3B
Michael Tucker - 1B
Chris Woodward - 2B
Ricky Ledee - RF
Mike DiFelice - C
Tom Glavine - P
The Comeback-to-back-to-back-to-back.
At some point we need to get our game face back on for tonight but that has to be close some record for activity.
Finally, I believe Bob thought that for some reason, Monday would be the high day for posts, something about the weekend, blah, blah, blah.
7 beers and Lowe hadn't even showered yet! Wonder how many he polished by the time he got out of Chavez Ravine. I guess the "No Beer Sales after the 7th inning" rule doesn't apply in the clubhouse. Hope he had a ride home ...
anyone know if it's Vin's voice on the MLB.com download? I would imagine so, just checking before I plunk down the $4
It's like Kent said last night, something like, "it's only one game".
Are the Dodgers 2006 a team of destiny based on one game? Only time will tell ...
I bought the game and it is Vin calling. The best part comes with about 10 seconds left in the broadcast when he says "I forgot to tell you. The Dodgers are in frist".
I've watched it over and over and over and over and, finally, over.
"Classic and timeless"
"I forgot to tell you. The Dodgers are in first".
vr, Xei
"The term Monday Night Miracle has been adopted in reference to at least two sporting contests. One was a 1986 St Lous Blues playoff victory in the NHL and the other was a 2000 New York Jets victory in the NFL."
Weak! LET'S TAKE IT!
So far the Mets are still the Mets (their SS homers to open the game).
That quote from Dodger Hill by John Hill made me throw out lemonade from my nose. priceless.
Link, can I say fruck Frist on this website?
thanks for the great read
So what's the scorekeeping symbol for a miracle?
i hadn't even realised that. wow.
Xei
I turned offff my spelchceker a wuyle agao.
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
Priceless
So, part of doing bedtime in my house is telling a story. It's actually pretty challenging, making up a ten minute story every day, no matter how tired, bored, angry, stressed, happy, whatever.
Tonight's story started like this: "This is a true story. It happened last night in Los Angeles. . . ."
It wasn't necessarily calming, but we had a lot of fun. The Marlon Anderson connection really doubled the excitement.
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