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Cardinals-Mets, NLCS Game 2 Chat

2006-10-13 15:50

by Jon Weisman

The Dodger postseason roster moves have begun with ... (ta da!) the addition of Las Vegas shortstop Wilson Valdez and the yet-again subtraction of reliever Giovanni Carrara from the 40-man roster, according to Ken Gurnick of MLB.com.

Rafael Furcal won't be looking over his shoulder. Valdez had a nice enough on-base percentage (.366) for the 51s, but it was nearly as high as his slugging percentage (.381), and he was caught stealing on 40 percent of his 43 attempts. Valdez is 28.

In addition, Marlon Anderson had bone-chip removal surgery, right-elbow version. Recovery is expected in three weeks, Gurnick wrote.

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2006-10-13 15:59:23

1. bigcpa

So we can expect Carrara back around May 2007.

2006-10-13 16:01:39

2. dzzrtRatt

Caught stealing 40 out of 43 attempts?

You'd think after about 25 CSs he'd give it up.

2006-10-13 16:02:04

3. regfairfield

If we lost Wilson Valdez, we'd only have three guys that can play shortstop, so I see why we'd protect him.

2006-10-13 16:05:43

4. caseybarker

2 Yeah, I did that, too. He was caught on 40 percent of attempts.

2006-10-13 16:05:47

5. Jon Weisman

2 - 40 percent

2006-10-13 16:06:38

6. caseybarker

...which is still like 18 caught stealing.

2006-10-13 16:06:47

7. ssjames

This just in from the "You Gotta be Kidding Me Dept," apparently a plane carrying A-Rod just skidded off the runway at Burbank airport. They believe that he is okay, but what a week for Yankees and flying. You would think that they would start taking buses or something.

http://tinyurl.com/yxq7l9

2006-10-13 16:07:03

8. trainwreck

I would forget about Maddux and try to sign Lilly.

2006-10-13 16:08:16

9. Bluebleeder87

it's kind of suprising Jon dosn't mention D when mentioning SStops, it's the first thing i look at. it's like looking at a 6'3 guy that is clumsy as hell.

ps east l.a guy/monterey park guy making a dumb post maybe.

2006-10-13 16:12:17

10. Jon Weisman

9 - I know of no reliable defensive stats on Valdez and have never seen him play, so what could I say about him defensively?

If you read his offensive stats above, unless you've seen Valdez in person, defense was not the first thing you looked at. Ha! :)

2006-10-13 16:12:30

11. dzzrtRatt

2 Oops. Never mind. Can't believe I missed "percent."

2006-10-13 16:13:14

12. trainwreck

I would also shop Kent and Ethier around. I think Betemit can have just as good or better year than Kent at second base. As for Ethier, I think this may be his peak value.

2006-10-13 16:13:47

13. underdog

Doesn't Wilson Valdez just sound like a Dodger name?

I would like to see the Dodgers make some more subtractions without worry about additions/replacements right now, but maybe they have to fill a spot when they clear one.

2006-10-13 16:15:48

14. underdog

As for shortstops and defense, I'd rather have Lu on the 40 man than Valdez.

http://tinyurl.com/y6p8ea

2006-10-13 16:16:53

15. Uncle Miltie

10- I did see Valdez play a few games while he was playing for the Mariners. His defense looked pretty good and he's an above average runner. His bat was almost non existent. Since he probably isn't as good as Juan Castro defensively, I see him as a AAAA player.

2006-10-13 16:18:09

16. Bluebleeder87

true

2006-10-13 16:19:12

17. Uncle Miltie

trainwreck- you want the Dodgers to shop Kent and Ethier and to go after Ted Lilly and Carl Crawford...

Are you my long-lost twin brother?

2006-10-13 16:22:03

18. D4P

was caught stealing on 40 percent of his 43 attempts

Sounds like he was leaking oil...

2006-10-13 16:23:25

19. Bluebleeder87

as all good G.M's you can *build around" those soft hands.IMO.

2006-10-13 16:26:01

20. bigcpa

12 I concur on both counts. If Ethier hits .280 he becomes the dreaded .775 OPS 4th OF envisioned all along. If he gets packaged for A Jones or V Wells then maybe we can live with an Anderson/Kemp LF platoon/competition.

2006-10-13 16:26:36

21. trainwreck

17
That would explain why my mom always said she kept the wrong one.

2006-10-13 16:26:45

22. trainwreck

*says

2006-10-13 16:28:06

23. trainwreck

My goal is to have Drew be our oldest starting position player.

2006-10-13 16:29:24

24. Bluebleeder87

"Auf Wiedersehen" i just found out what that means & i think Gio says "ojala muy pronto" chao por aora.

2006-10-13 16:32:16

25. Bluebleeder87

with all our young studs that's a good goal.

2006-10-13 16:33:15

26. regfairfield

14 I don't think Hu is rule five eligible for a while. Colletti is just protecting Valdez from the rule five, I imagine.

2006-10-13 16:34:17

27. dzzrtRatt

Man -- I am not a big A's fan, but I feel for their fans today. That team is just being stifled. When Frank Thomas isn't hitting, there's not much going on for them offensively.

2006-10-13 16:35:39

28. underdog

26 Ah yes, true. While Hu hopes to make the 40 man roster, he doesn't need to until next year I believe. Still I wouldn't cry if the team lost Valdez in the Rule 5, was mostly my point.

2006-10-13 16:37:13

29. CanuckDodger

26 -- Hu is Rule 5 eligible this off-season. He will be added to the 40-man roster for sure.

2006-10-13 16:41:12

30. Jon Weisman

Giovanni Carrara isn't German???

2006-10-13 16:48:09

31. Bluebleeder87

i heard him talk on prime/fox believe me i know!!! ;o)

2006-10-13 16:48:15

32. Linkmeister

30 If he's from the Tyrol it's possible. That area has changed hands almost as frequently as Alsace-Lorraine has.

2006-10-13 16:56:12

33. underdog

29 Ah! Then, what I said before.

30 Carrara is part of that hearty Germanzuelan population.

2006-10-13 16:59:42

34. Bluebleeder87

Carrara is part of that hearty Germanzuelan population

i just looked it up & theres no such thing!

2006-10-13 17:01:25

35. Bluebleeder87

McCarver is one the broadcasters for the Cards against Metropolitans

2006-10-13 17:16:02

36. Telemachos

34 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela#Demographics :)

2006-10-13 17:26:01

37. caseybarker

30 It may depend on what his dad was doing in the early 1940's.

2006-10-13 17:26:17

38. Bluebleeder87

mestizo es mi sangre. :o)

2006-10-13 17:32:26

39. Bluebleeder87

lucky hit by Spizeio (?) i hope that changes there luck.

2006-10-13 17:32:55

40. das411

So....this Delgado guy can hit.

35 - Funny how this always seems to show up right around this time of year... http://tinyurl.com/exf4w

2006-10-13 17:36:43

41. caseybarker

40 THAT is funny. Tim McCarver looks to have John Edwards beat, if only for this week.

2006-10-13 17:37:21

42. FirstMohican

There's a ton of Germans in South America. I always thought Giovanni looked like he should own a pizza parlor in the Bronx.

2006-10-13 17:38:34

43. FirstMohican

Does any not have the Tigers as their WS favs?

2006-10-13 17:40:26

44. Bluebleeder87

""Whether people think he's a douche bag or not, our ratings are up and we're not going to mess with that."

thank god my coach/dad traind me to see things McCarver can't see. :o)

2006-10-13 17:43:20

45. Bluebleeder87

Giovanni looked like he should own a pizza parlor in the Bronx.

umm pizza!!

2006-10-13 17:47:00

46. Bluebleeder87

Carpenter just did Chavez a favor with his long hurky jurky swing.

2006-10-13 18:10:48

47. das411

Ahhh I love America, I just went to McDonalds down the street and in less than the time it took me to walk down there, I bought some 1800 calories worth of food for just over $6. Where else can you buy 90% of the daily recommended food intake for one hour's wages??

Ack and who was on base for that HR?

2006-10-13 18:14:43

48. D4P

90% of the daily recommended food intake

And 900% of the daily recommended fat and salt intake

2006-10-13 18:23:53

49. Andrew Shimmin

48- The closest McDonalds to me is in a Walmart. I think of you when I'm there.

2006-10-13 18:24:08

50. Bluebleeder87

& my fat friends tell me why i have so much engergy.

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2006-10-13 18:28:24

51. D4P

It doesn't get much un-edgier than eating at a McDonalds in a Walmart...

2006-10-13 18:33:56

52. Andrew Shimmin

51- Well I've not actually eaten there, I don't think. I can't remember having, anyway. But I go to that Walmart regularly, and the McDonalds is right by the door.

2006-10-13 18:38:09

53. das411

Andrew, that's not the Walmart on Delaware Avenue in south Philly, is it? I bought some double cheeseburgers there just last...er, two months ago...I think....zzzzz....

Oh wait, that's just this Mets/Cards game putting me to sleep instead.

2006-10-13 18:41:54

54. D4P

But I go to that Walmart regularly

Again, in stark contrast to your legendary edginess...

2006-10-13 18:44:13

55. xaphor

54. What's edgier than a morning breakfast consisting of a small coffee and a box of bullets. All a man needs to keep him going throughout the day.

2006-10-13 18:50:35

56. Bluebleeder87

last time i had Coffee it gave me the runs

2006-10-13 18:51:41

57. Andrew Shimmin

54- Even if I go explicitly for the purpose of exploiting workers and hastening the apocalypse? Isn't that even a little edgy? Oh who am I kidding? I'm just not that edgy. I've been living a lie!

53- There's one in the 24 hour Walmart in San Dimas that I went to a few times when I was younger, and not sleeping was new and fun. McDonalds is not that much worse than Denny's. Their coffee is probably better.

2006-10-13 18:56:57

58. Bluebleeder87

what i find more interesting is gambling in a McDonalds Vegas.

2006-10-13 19:02:31

59. Bluebleeder87

Arteries friend of foe?

2006-10-13 19:05:54

60. Andrew Shimmin

54- By the way, when are you going to start using your new screen name? Torii4Ever, right? That's pretty edgy.

2006-10-13 19:10:41

61. Bluebleeder87

this Cardinals vs NY game is really interesting huh

2006-10-13 19:10:51

62. xaphor

60. T4D :)

2006-10-13 19:27:42

63. dagwich

Didn't they leave some important info out of the Lo Duca profile? Like how he like teenage girls scattered up the northeast corridor?

2006-10-13 19:46:42

64. WellsforKemp

you could say the radar gun on fox is a little jacked up right now....... if Carpenter could really throw 98-99 he would be untouchable

2006-10-13 19:53:19

65. dagwich

That was almost an amazing catch by Green. As it is I couldn't tell if he saved a home run or almost knocked it over the fence.

2006-10-13 19:54:48

66. GoBears

From Jon's post: In addition, Marlon Anderson had bone-chip removal surgery, right-elbow version. Recovery is expected in three weeks, Gurnick wrote.

I sure hope those weren't magic bone chips, like the ones in Beltre's ankle in '04. If they were, MARLON could be back to just Marlon next season.

2006-10-13 19:57:05

67. Andrew Shimmin

66- Sometimes it seems like the Dodgers medical staff is trying to destroy the team.

2006-10-13 19:58:18

68. Vishal

[27] condolences appreciated.

2006-10-13 19:59:43

69. WellsforKemp

sure hope those weren't magic bone chips, like the ones in Beltre's ankle in '04. If they were, MARLON could be back to just Marlon next season.

untill someone gives me a better reason, im going to go with magic bone chips

2006-10-13 20:06:22

70. Vishal

well, with beltre's bone chips there was the at least plausible-sounding explanation that his ankle bone chips discouraged him from lunging at low-and-away sliders. i don't see how elbow bone chips = prodigous power and improved contact.

2006-10-13 20:07:20

71. Vishal

oh yeah, and beltre's were bone spurs, were they not? is there a difference?

2006-10-13 20:08:36

72. D4P

By the way, when are you going to start using your new screen name? Torii4Ever, right?

At this point, that screen name is only a rumor (which Steve has no doubt heard...)

2006-10-13 20:13:36

73. dzzrtRatt

Speaking of Wal-Mart, this was interesting. http://tinyurl.com/ya9ykn

And I'm no Wal-Mart basher. I think I'm wearing a Wal-Mart t-shirt as I write. But...pathetic stuff.

2006-10-13 20:14:53

74. WellsforKemp

apparently every pitcher on both sides throws atleast 95mph

2006-10-13 20:17:57

75. D4P

I was pleased to see that Walmart was ordered to pay some $70 million to former employees in a single state who were forced to work extra hours for no pay. I would expect similar lawsuits to follow

2006-10-13 20:26:32

76. D4P

The key to having a very long major league career:

have the last name of "Franco"

2006-10-13 20:31:35

77. dzzrtRatt

"WellsforKemp"...I assume you mean Vernon Wells? Or did you assume that handle at the trading deadline? (Shudder)

Is Vernon Wells really that good? Isn't he about to qualify for the elephant dollar? Just because he plays for Toronto doesn't make him Carlos Delgado.

2006-10-13 20:35:43

78. xaphor

Who has an AFL blog? Hu of course:

http://tinyurl.com/y6p8ea

76. Also applies to Spanish Dictators.

2006-10-13 20:35:51

79. dzzrtRatt

Wow. I didn't think this inning would end with Beltran hitting a double play.

2006-10-13 20:36:52

80. D4P

79
With one out, a double play pretty much always ends the inning...

2006-10-13 20:43:50

81. mehmattski

He's So Taguchi!

2006-10-13 20:49:34

82. gpellamjr

I only call Andrew edgy to make him feel better. We all know he's not. But it's a pleasant lie.

2006-10-13 20:50:22

83. dzzrtRatt

80 You know what I meant. Beltran is a Cardinal-killer. Two men on, one out -- a single at least. Or no worse than a long fly out.

2006-10-13 20:54:21

84. gpellamjr

75 Nice to meet you, Mr. Stalin.

2006-10-13 20:57:01

85. WellsforKemp

"WellsforKemp"...I assume you mean Vernon Wells? Or did you assume that handle at the trading deadline? (Shudder)

its from the rumors of the Redsox asking kemp for David Wells at the deadline.......I was in no way in favor and found it pretty funny:)..... I like Kemp alot and am hoping he gets a chance next year

2006-10-13 20:59:04

86. D4P

84
That's Mr. Pot to you, sonny...

2006-10-13 21:01:39

87. gpellamjr

86 You commies all look the same to me. Sorry.

2006-10-13 21:02:32

88. D4P

87
Takes one to know one...

2006-10-13 21:03:03

89. gpellamjr

88 Slander!

2006-10-13 21:04:08

90. Andrew Shimmin

D4P wants to destroy capitalism, CanuckDodger wants to impose an after-hours dress code on the players, and Greg Brock hates the environment. It's like our own little axis of Evil.

2006-10-13 21:05:49

91. D4P

D4P wants to destroy capitalism

I hate your freedom, Andrew

2006-10-13 21:07:14

92. gpellamjr

91 Andrew has no freedom so long as he stays in the non-edgy closet. Come out, my friend! We'll all be better off for it.

2006-10-13 21:08:15

93. xaphor

We finally have a series that looks like a decent match up and it is between the two least interesting teams (IMO).

2006-10-13 21:08:44

94. WellsforKemp

is anyone else kinda disgusted by Spezio's "red thing" on his chin?

2006-10-13 21:09:10

95. scareduck

90 - can't it be an Axis of Not-Very-Nice?

2006-10-13 21:10:27

96. scareduck

94 - he's making up for lost time on the Mariners, when he could not sport a red furry thingy. One of the broadcasters suggested it be called "the Tickler", making the sole lady broadcaster blush some.

2006-10-13 21:11:18

97. Andrew Shimmin

91- I hate so much about the way you choose to be. . .

92- I'm looking forward to blaming my closetedness for all the awful things I plan to do. So, no deal.

2006-10-13 21:12:33

98. D4P

I hate so much about the way you choose to be. . .

That's just the lack of nicotine talking...

2006-10-13 21:13:48

99. Andrew Shimmin

Now that D4P has outed himself as a non-The Office watcher, I say we shun him.

2006-10-13 21:15:53

100. D4P

99
Give me Arrested Development or give me death!

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2006-10-13 21:40:05

101. Andrew Shimmin

100- Can't talk, now; shunning.

2006-10-13 21:49:24

102. D4P

I like "Office Space"...is that close enough?

2006-10-13 21:50:48

103. Greg Brock

90
Just because somebody wants to destroy the environment doesn't make them hate it.

Maybe I want to destroy it out of love. You know, like Clint Eastwood to Hillary Swank in Million Dollar Baby.

2006-10-13 21:55:01

104. Andrew Shimmin

102- I don't know; is liking O.J. Simpson the same as liking The Simpsons?

Oops. Forgot. Shunning.

2006-10-13 22:04:53

105. trainwreck

Maybe he likes the real The Office.

2006-10-13 22:12:26

106. D4P

That's right, trainwreck. Maybe I don't like cheap knock-offs...

2006-10-13 22:16:44

107. das411

Um....so who won the game?

2006-10-13 22:24:49

108. Andrew Shimmin

105, 106- Well, Jon obviously needs a new TYFN guideline. You people are despicable.

107- Cards.

2006-10-13 22:38:48

109. Xeifrank

Just a reminder that the Friends of Dodger Thoughts fantasy basketball league still has a few more openings for our live draft that takes place in about 2 weeks. vr, Xei

http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba
League ID: 41973
pw: dodgers

2006-10-13 22:42:08

110. D4P

I will not be told what I can and cannot watch by the Nielsen box. Great shows get canceled, and the Jeff Weavers (or Walmarts) of sitcoms get renewed. I'm not a sheep, and I won't be manipulated.

In other news, I recently watched "The Graduate" for the first time. I thought the ending was disappointing, and not really consistent with the vibe of the rest of the movie...

2006-10-13 22:48:38

111. GoBears

110. You're unsalvageable.

2006-10-13 22:49:11

112. trainwreck

The War at Home gets another season yet Lucky Louie is cancelled! Where's the justice?

2006-10-13 22:50:05

113. D4P

109
Oh yeah, basketball still exists. I had forgotten. Interest in the NBA seems to have plummeted to pre-Magic/Bird levels...

2006-10-13 22:50:46

114. Bluebleeder87

Lucky Louie getting cancelled is bad news for me.

2006-10-13 22:53:21

115. D4P

111
There are a ton of job openings right now. Just an hour or so ago, 13 new postings appeared, including Cal State-San Luis Obispo, Cornell, USC, MIT, and UCLA.

2006-10-13 22:58:38

116. Andrew Shimmin

115- Proof that people who don't like The Office can't count.

2006-10-13 23:01:04

117. D4P

116
Hey, this is Math Guy you're speaking to...(er, shunning...)

2006-10-14 00:02:24

118. das411

Has anybody on here ever heard of a band called the Veronicas? One of our campus acapella groups just did a song of theirs tonight and I thought it sounded pretty cool. However I am so clueless when it comes to popular music that it could well be trashy teenager music and I would not know any better....any help here?

110 - What is "The Graduate", one of those newfangled reality shows?

2006-10-14 00:18:15

119. Steve

I heard a rumor that Torii Hunter is going to guest star on The Office for November sweeps.

2006-10-14 06:12:08

120. Bob Timmermann

Hey, it's nearly 11 pm Saturday night where I am! Where are my college football finals? I can't find them anywhere.

Stupid earth rotating on its axis.

2006-10-14 07:00:01

121. adraymond

118
Your suspicions seem to be correct.
http://tinyurl.com/y5cksu

2006-10-14 09:19:56

122. Frip

"We have more above average talent than possibly any team in the league..."
- True Blue L.A.

True?

2006-10-14 09:37:26

123. regfairfield

122 To clarify, when I wrote that, I don't consider the "great" talent to account as above average. So Pujols wouldn't qualify as an above average player.

I can see where that would be confusing.

2006-10-14 09:59:14

124. Andrew Shimmin

121- The list of, "similar artists," is pretty brutal, based on the five names I recognize.

2006-10-14 10:14:58

125. Greg Brock

Well I used to know a girl and I would have
sworn that her name was Veronica.
Well she used to have a carefree mind of her
own and a delicate look in her eye
These days I'm afraid she's not even sure if her
name is Veronica

2006-10-14 10:27:47

126. Frip

I hate the use of rock music with baseball. It's so un-right. All the networks do it, from pre-game to post game, and everything in between. Can't JUST ONE network try and be innovative with the soundscape?

Does anyone remember the theme song to This Week in Baseball way back when. So elegant and, I don't know, cerebral? Just very in harmony with the game itself.

What's all this CRUNCH-CRUNCH-CRUNCH---CHUGGA-GHUGGA-CHUGGA, have to do with a slow, languid Sunday afternoon sport?

I can rock with the best of them. I grew up on Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. That's not it. It's just obnoxious and stupid. Rock music everywhere!

2006-10-14 10:28:46

127. Greg Brock

Okay, since we're on the topic of music, a friend of mine keeps telling me about how good Radiohead is, and about how OK Computer is some sort of seminal album.

Do I need to investigate this further? I know almost nothing about most music from the 90's/2000's, so any help would be appreciated.

2006-10-14 10:41:33

128. Linkmeister

126 I move we demand that TWIB change its music to something more intellectually interesting. Let's use Aaron Copeland.

For lineup introductions we could have "Fanfare for the Common Man." For double plays we could use some of the faster parts of "Rodeo."

2006-10-14 10:43:46

129. JJ42

The TWIB theme song is called "Gathering Crowds." You can actually get it as a theme song for your cell phone. One of my friends has the Fox Football theme as her ring tone. It's kinda funny when you here it. In a crowded room, you can tell who are avid football fans when it goes off. I actually prefer the theme from the NBA on NBC.

2006-10-14 10:48:12

130. JJ42

129.

Sorr