And if Crawford maintains his knack for improving stats every year, he'll be a 25/50 guy in 2008.

But maybe they're wrong.

Either way, in this context, I would call $250K small potatoes.

the two faces of Bill O'Reilly fair & balanced by day, sexual beast by night!

sorry Jon for taking the bait

Nor is it sufficient

your idea works for me.

Yeah to 20, and Jones looks like he's losing his speed a bit.

Its like a second day of Halloween, for the Orthodox.

12. I think that he has to get a few performance incentives to get the full 2.25 MIL next year. I wish I could consider 250 K to be small potatoes, rather than yearly income.

15. He can team up with the guy that hosts "The Insider"(used to be on EXTRA) and become the most terrifying sexual devients in America.
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Unless DePo takes over as GM in SD in the next 2 years, I've got to turn my NL allegiance to the Dodgers(mainly due to you DT guys & Collett's trades with my beloved Rays). You guys are terrific when boredom at work sets.

u get a proven 40 homer bat for cheap and the bullpen should be fine with brazoban back.

Let me count the reasons...

Don't get me started. . . yet, again.

Broxton >>> Brazoban

26. No, it's because you guys are hilarious when it comes to poking fun of players like that.

Negitives: Old and injured

Positives: Still hits for average and power. You might get him for cheap. You make Kemp the starting CF at the begining of the season. If he struggles you move Drew to center and and Alou to right. If Kemp is playing well then Alou is a very good PH off the bench. Again this all assumes you could get him fairly cheaply, say $3.5M or less with incentives.

I'll take my lumps now.

i don't know but i think i'm insulted my your last piece [still scratching head]

if we keep both i will definetly like our Bullpen next year.

Sorry, Xei Frank. :-)

He's a proven Champion now...

Doesn't Lowe have ADD?

you dont want to end up like the angels. hording prospects who never amount to anything.

the Cards like 'em, he did well for us also.

I don't mind the idea of Alou. Now that his dad is out as the Gints manager, there's no necessity for him to go back. Plus, the owner (Magowan?) said he wanted the team to get younger.

I'll take some lumps, too.

i'd pass if i were the Dodgers

If either guy would bring back a decent young starter (or in the Dunn trade of course), I'd go for it.

To be fair, Dallas McPherson has a total of 360 at-bats in the majors, and has been hurt. If he hadn't been hurt, it is possible the Angels wouldn't be so worried about letting Glaus go. Likewise, if Kotchman hadn't been out with mono all year (how freaky is that?), the two of them could have given the Angels the power they needed and proven wrong this nonsense about Angels prospects never panning out.

Don't forget, the Angels are at the top of the heap with regard to pitching prospects that turn into great major pitchers. There is every reason to believe Kendrick and Wood will have bright futures with the team, and Mathis and Napoli are still in the picture. Then there's Kendry Morales and Kotchman, one of whom will end up at first.

I would hardly put the Angels in the class of teams that can't produce from their farm system.

What ever happened to Andy LaRoche, or for that matter, Wilson Betemit? Betemit hit 18 homeruns in less than 400 AB's last year, to support a .200 ISO, and hit .281/.344/.505 against RHP last year. If he can't hit lefties, then platoon him with Saenz until LaRoche is ready. Betemit was only 24. Dodger fans are down on him because he didn't look great for 175 AB's in Dodger blue ... so what. Atlanta fans weren't too happy to see him go, and they saw much more of him than we did.

how about his poor D?

i see your point about Betemit but man his Difence made me mad at times

As to the poster in a previous thread that mentioned about Eckstein. I wish I had a team with about 7 or 8 of players with his heart and grit. I was happy he got MVP, he is the poster boy for the Anti-Juicing campaign. BTW, Selig couldn't even pronounce his name right at first, he had to have David whisper it into his ear.
What a buffoon!!!

I think the best way to bring a young player in is to 'block' him with a decent starter who can be easily moved out of the way, but is good enough to start for a while if the prospect needs some time. This essentially happened with Navarro and Martin, and Jose Cruz and Ethier.

Betemit fill that role in front of LaRoche (and I think Betemit has a decent future, like Navarro).

In regards to Loney, I would sign a decent MI, like say, Craig Counsell (and perhaps a righthanded platoon partner), so that if Loney isn't quite ready you can play Kent at 1B, and once he is, Loney moves up, Kent moves over, and Counsell improves our bench.

For Kemp, we may have that player already in Jason Repko, but it would probably be best to either platoon him with a lefthanded CF or bring in a decent veteran with one year left on his contract (Mark Kotsay? Maybe even Lofton?) that can be easily sent to the bench or another team once Kemp figures out how to translate his AWESOME minor league performance to the majors.

I think this would solve the Dodgers offseason issues in regards to position players without having to soend to much, allowing for maximum effort and dollars going towards upgrade/depth in the rotation.

I'd rather package Kemp and Elbert for Vernon Wells if Ned wants an impact bat in CF.

Id rather horde then go through pedro redux all over again.

i guess i'm in the catagory of being over protective of our great rooks but IMO Vernon Wells body screams out i'm gonna get fatter as i get older.JMO.

matter of fact, lets not trade any of our young players. k, thankzzzzz.

I don't think Kuo is going anywhere, power lefthanded starter who make nothing are pretty much untouchable.

agreed let's just throw money @ Schmidt & a power bat.

I hope not. I'd rather have Kuo than Zito, especially considering their salaries. But even if they were paid the same, I think I'd go with Kuo...

do you have a link nate?

don't tell me you have to be an "insider" i just checked it out.

i take that back i just found the correct link.

and this:

the modern day version of Dave Kingman

is thrown out quite often, but it is not very accurate. Dave Kingman was a homerun hitter who strikes out a lot but was also a prodigious "out-maker", with a career OBP of .302. Adam Dunn, despite a career .245 batting average, is a top-25 active OBP guy, ranking ahead of guys like Ichiro, Rolen, and Big Papi.

i don't fallow basketball so to me it was a so-so read.

Thanks for catching the sarcasm. The problem with trading for Dunn is then we couldn't talk about wanting to trade for Dunn (one of my favorite hot-stove pastimes).

I love how Baseball-Reference lists Betemit at 6-2 155 lbs.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=776

i like your way of thought

Jeff Suppan filed for free agency today, 148 players have filed, 45 are still eligible to file.

Seattle Mariners have released a statement taking them out of the Gyromaster's shopping spree.

Rumors that the Giants have contacted Nomar's agent and that Boston is interested in signing Lugo are being tossed around.

There is also a rumor that the Dodgers want to sign Maddux for one year while he wants 2 years.

Hall + a reasonable prospect?

i don't mean anything bad by this but the Dodgers trying to sell me that Maddux is a work out freak just rubbed me the wrong way, one can just look at his body & see other wise.

ps Vinnie mentioned that he had a trainer during the offseason & that he worked out very very hard during the offseason, no disrespect Vinnie but you can tell when somebody works out & Maddux does not work out!

Mental makeup is a lot of successful relieving. No one has a better mental game than Maddux. Get flustered if put in a tough situation? Hardly. Shake off bad outings? No problem. Have the brains, guile, and knowledge to make it work? You betcha. Bet he could do it...and well, even with somewhat more diminished stuff.

Yeah, I know. Wake up from this dream or whatever it is....

His LA numbers pro-rated to a full season are 18-9 (I know, I know, wins don't adequately reflect performance--but look 18 wins). I would be amazed if he pulled that off but I wouldn't be surprised if he logged another 13-15 wins and 180-200 innings. Maddux is currently 16 wins from surpassing Clemens as the most victorious pitcher of his generation--I wouldn't bet against him with that as motivation. (Assuming Clemens is finally done with the half-season curtain call act and stays at 348)

The worst part was that Alex Trebeck claimed - after no one wrang in with the right answer - that Piazza started with the Mets, but then went to the Dodgers. Idiots.

hahaha! i can feel your dislike overkill94, oh by the way i met Alex Trebeck on the Sony lot in Culver city, i worked for Iron Mountain a records management co. the company has a contract with them & i was sent over there to work on some data processing "stuff" very very humble down to earth guy he is.

My only concern is what that would mean for guys like Kuo, Elbert, ect. What would happen if the dodgers signed Maddux, and a Matsuzaka/Schmidt/Zito ect? Would that mean Kuo is out of the rotation? Or would it be better for the dodgers to trade Penny, and have a rotation of M/S/Z Lowe, Maddux, Billingsley, Kuo?

Before fouling out...

I'd be happier if that was reversed.

I like Nomar - I'll understand it if the Dodgers don't resign him for what money he'll probably ask for, but I'd hate to see him go to the Giants. Lugo, on the other hand, they can have.

Also it seems reasonable for them to trade one of Crawford/Baldelli/Dukes, all 3 have value more or less. (or should i say more and more?) Cantu also seems like a trade candidates as is Gomes more or less.

Hard to figure out what to do with the team, it has so much talent but simply not comming together into anything coherent (guess it doesn't help that they are run by guys who's resume in baseball is winning his fantasy league) I think for a start at least they sign some one people heard of to draw a bigger crowd would help. even declining stars will help put a few more average joes into the seats .... Mike Piazza anyone?

And let's face it, for Tampa, they are still eons away from contending, if their going to spend on FAs, it better be someone that can help them draw crowds whileing helping with their experiences and abilities. not more inning eaters dozens in a bag guys.

The Devil Rays were completely clueless until last year, now they are actually rebuilding with a least have a plan.

http://tinyurl.com/ybv6vw

OK, here's the deal. The Dodgers reactiviate Wally Moon (he retired after the '65 season and is only 76 years old) and acquire Sun-Woo Kim from Cincinnati (along with Dunn; for Tomko, Hendrickson and any other middle reliever).

Bingo: Moon and Sun to the Rays for Crawford.

This GM stuff is too easy!

113. Why do they need to trade one of the CC/Rocco/Dukes trio? Dukes is now at 1B in the AFL and the Rays are hoping that he stays calm until Spring Training to give him a chance at Spring Training for the Starting 1B job. If it's a young player being traded, Upton is the odds-on favorite.

I agree that Cantu is very tradeable right now, which is why it's being thrown around that Longoria will split his time in 2007 between 2B and 3B.

Gomes is doubtful right now, after he had to undergo shoulder "cleaning". Until we see him swinging the bat again, who knows how much power he still has.

The new ownership is a bunch of former NY/Wallstreet Businessmen. They've got Gerry Hunsicker in the front office to basically mentor their young GM and they're very fan-oriented.

Signing a declining veteran is not a smart move, we're not the Cubs...

115. It's funny that you said that they fail to draw crowds, because they lost more games in 2006 than they did in 2005 but had a 20% increase in overall attendance.

I could go on for days about the amount of high-quality pitching prospects that the Rays system has, but it appears that Toy Cannon has mentioned some of the better ones.

119. Yes he is, that's why we plan on keeping him for as long as we can. However, if we end up trading him, it's going to be for an ace-type MLB pitcher. So I doubt he's going anywhere.

so i guess Brazoban will have a boxing partner this up coming spring.

http://tinyurl.com/yczqwn

And my other thought is how long did MLB know this and why didn't it come out before the playoffs.

I think he's highly underated, and would fit in well with the Dodgers.

If we couldn't land Aramis Ramirez, then Carlos Lee would be my second choice.

The only draw back is the position changes it would force in the OF. But I could live with Drew in CF, Lee in LF, and the winner of the Kemp/Ethier battle in RF with Repko serving as the 4th OF (the loser in RF being the 5th).

This is me using poor logic, but I would surmise that given Olmedo and Carlos are close friends and countrymen, we wouldn't have to pay a premium above market to land him (like we offered with Giles, and did for Furcal).

Anyone else like Carlos Lee?

he's alright, i rather have Aramis Ramirez the more i say his name the cooler i think it sounds

Sheffield should have knew better than to negotiate his own contract with somebody as shrewd as George Steinbrenner. With nobody to blame but himself for his bad move, he should just shut up and take it like a man!

look DT'ers we have a stray Yankee fan ;o)

With the in-house options at third being young, cheap, and talented, I think LA can more effectively spend that $15M per year elsewhere.

http://tinyurl.com/sjp53

They fired Steve Lyons?

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/W/Logan-White.shtml

I admit, I just wanted an opportunity to use the hip, hip ³ abbreviation.

FOX is a freaking joke & i really wanna know who the guy is that fired him.

http://tinyurl.com/ylsaum

Home: .231/.362/.502
Away: .236/.368/.479

So, a little more slugging at home (22 HRs, vs. 18 on the road), but better average and on-base away from GAB. Twice as many doubles on the road. More RBIs at home, but given how close Dunn's splits are, that must be a function of big H/A splits for his teammates.

In fact, if Dunn is to be criticized, it's for NOT taking sufficient advantage of his home park.

Dunn's for real. Don't let the Ks bug you - he'd be an awesome addition.