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Hub Fans Bid JD a Doozy
2006-12-05 16:36
by Jon Weisman

If nothing else, J.D. Drew sure knows how to raise expectations for himself. You'd think a guy so shy (or reserved) would be worried about that, but he is all business. I don't mean that as a pejorative - just as an observation. He is something of a contradiction.

Now that the Boston Red Sox have signed Drew to a five-year contract worth $70 million, my question is this:

What kind of performance will Red Sox fans require of Drew to be satisfied with him?

My initial thoughts: at least a .300 batting average, 25 home runs, 100 RBI, .950 OPS, 140 games played, one huge clutch hit and one clutch catch a month - including one in the first week - along with some slightly lesser hits of renown, good vibes from the clubhouse, and a cinematic moment of playing through pain.

Every year.

If the Red Sox keep Manny Ramirez, that will lessen the pressure on Drew. But with Drew, very often it was less a case of "What have you done for me lately?" and more "What did you do firstly?" His rep has proven hard to shake, and the sooner he can lay waste to it, the more happiness he may be able to find. And, in fact, even if the fans aren't happy with him, that won't necessarily mean Drew won't help the team.

Most likely, Drew will be a big asset some years but not others. And if the Sox win a World Series one of those years - who knows, Drew might be allowed to carry Dave Roberts' gear at Oldtimers' Day.

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2006-12-05 16:57:17
1.   D4P
a cinematic moment of playing through pain

Maybe one of his bad knees can bleed through unto his uniform...

2006-12-05 17:03:07
2.   Honoluludodger
Aloha Mr. Drew. My brother is a Red Sox fan. He and his friends will not be as filled with the "Aloha spirit" as the Dodger fans were. We wanted to love you. But the Arizona Diamondbacks broke your arm before you could win our hearts. May you have better luck in Boston. My brother and the other fans of Boston will not be as patient as we were.

Mahalo.

2006-12-05 17:05:10
3.   bigcpa
All those sliding Trot Nixon catches are going to be caught by Drew on a dead run leading to cries that he won't get dirty. And I predict Wade Boggs doubles numbers.
2006-12-05 17:05:23
4.   kinbote
drew's best moment in blue was that amazing catch he made in arizona in deep right center. his worst was getting thrown out at home during the playoffs. like kevin brown, he was a dodger in uniform and paystub only . . .
2006-12-05 17:10:37
5.   Jon Weisman
3 - "All those sliding Trot Nixon catches are going to be caught by Drew on a dead run leading to cries that he won't get dirty. "

Wow, that's too true.

2006-12-05 17:12:57
6.   kinbote
correction: the catch was in san diego.
2006-12-05 17:15:12
7.   scareduck
BTW, Jon, brilliant hed. Those who don't get it may wish to read this:

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/articles/hub_fans_bid_kid_adieu_article.shtml

2006-12-05 17:15:45
8.   bigcpa
4 he was a dodger in uniform and paystub only

Is this true of any highly paid free agent or do you have some other criteria?

2006-12-05 17:17:19
9.   GMac In The 909
8 It's not true of Juan Pierre; he wanted to be here. Oh wait ...
2006-12-05 17:19:37
10.   Jon Weisman
7 - Thanks. It's the fourth word that I'm really battling myself over. I've been going back and forth on it.
2006-12-05 17:20:45
11.   Curtis Lowe
8- He opted out after saying he would not. I would say that is some pretty compelling evidence for the statement in 4.
2006-12-05 17:21:48
12.   Curtis Lowe
Trot Nixon is a grittier baseball name than J.D Drew. Based on names alone I would rather have Trot.
2006-12-05 17:22:17
13.   Icaros
From Jerry Crasnick:

"The Rockies, priced out on Dave Roberts, have Darin Erstad, Kenny Lofton and Steve Finley on their radar screen as center field options."

I can't decide who I most want them to sign.

http://tinyurl.com/y8p8yd

2006-12-05 17:23:32
14.   Uncle Miltie
The Dodgers pushed hard on Toronto to see if there was a fit for center fielder Vernon Wells and inquired with Florida about Dontrelle Willis. Neither bid gained much traction.

The Devil Rays for now wisely are rejecting overtures for outfielders Carl Crawford and Rocco Baldelli

While speculating on an Opening Day lineup on Tuesday, Rays manager Joe Maddon had Akinori Iwamura at third base and didn't include B.J. Upton.

If Bossman is available, Ned needs to look into what it would take to acquire him. Bossman could be our 2b for the next 10 years.

2006-12-05 17:23:50
15.   thinkingblue
Ok, since it's Hacksaw, I know it's probably not true, but he just said Detroit's asking price for career .263/.310./.461 hitting Monroe is Chad Billingsley.

I think I might never go to dodger stadium again if Ned did this.

2006-12-05 17:24:05
16.   scareduck
Maddux is a Padre:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2687700

$10M/1 year, with a player option for anywhere from $6M to $10M, depending on how many innings he pitches.

2006-12-05 17:24:52
17.   kinbote
bigcpa--he had a pretty swing, played good defense, and put up good numbers when healthy. i'd been a fan of his ever since he hit three homers in a college world series game. the way he left leaves me completely un-nostalgic for his past services. but this has all been covered ad nauseum . . .
2006-12-05 17:25:35
18.   still bevens
I think we're cursed with having such good prospects. Everyone is asking us for the sun and moon in their dealings with Ned but seemingly less hot property from other folks.
2006-12-05 17:25:36
19.   Uncle Miltie
15- they also asked for Nick Markakis from the Orioles.
2006-12-05 17:25:41
20.   trainwreck
I think we should try sign Schmidt and then just stay dormant.
2006-12-05 17:28:57
21.   saltcreek
From LA times...sorry if this is a repost...."Signing Saito eliminates any chance the Dodgers would re-sign Gagne, and one of Gagne's representatives said this evening that the former Cy Young Award winner is close to an agreement with an undisclosed team for a one-year deal worth about $5 million." Bummer.
2006-12-05 17:29:33
22.   bigcpa
11 I guess my perspective has changed, but I was far more hurt when Piazza turned down 6 yrs/$90m. Talk about a true Dodger who let greed take him over.
2006-12-05 17:29:44
23.   trainwreck
21
Red Sox
2006-12-05 17:30:28
24.   DodgerHobbit
5mil... Ned is carrying the Boras hate pretty far.
and then there was one.
2006-12-05 17:30:35
25.   trainwreck
A Red Sox fan reported on my sports board that they are reporting a Dodgers trifecta in the Boston area. Gagne, Lugo, and Drew.
2006-12-05 17:31:33
26.   trainwreck
I am pretty dissapointed we would not take a chance on Gagne. Not like we cannot afford it.
2006-12-05 17:34:10
27.   LetsGoDodgers
26 amen, brother
2006-12-05 17:36:25
28.   Honoluludodger
Aloha.

Actually, how Mr. Drew is received by the Boston fans will be determined by (i) his performance and (ii) their expecations. If the fans expect Mr. Drew to perform like a number 2 hitter, he could be one of the best in the league. Unfortunately, his salary demands and "potential" make people think he is a clean up hitter. And that is where the disappoint arises. A successful team needs its "big bat" to play almost every day and to hit for power on a regular basis.

That is why, I believe, Mr. Drew disappointed the Dodger fans. So if Boston management lowers fan expectations to a leval Mr. Drew can meet, he may have a successful five years. I wish him well.

Mahalo.

2006-12-05 17:37:10
29.   Jon Weisman
28 - Yes, absolutely. If ...
2006-12-05 17:38:49
30.   Sam DC
Great stuff on DT tonight.

Eric -- I keep trying to squeeze in Matt Stairs. I think "to stair" could be a verb --- "Her apartment was on the twenty second floor, but I was so excited I staired up in no time."

Can I get a ruling?

I think the lower dollar player option was a pretty clever solution to the impasse the Padres and Maddux were heading towards on the one year/two year thing. But it is a big contract and while offering arb had risk, I think the people (um like me) who thought it was a pretty safe risk and worth it were right.

2006-12-05 17:39:19
31.   scareduck
28 - That's quite a piece of PR management if they're successful.
2006-12-05 17:41:39
32.   DodgerHobbit
28
Expectations are at least partially determined by your contract. So Boston can only lower the fans expectations so much.
2006-12-05 17:44:14
33.   Sam DC
Also Eric, if "Bill" is a verb, isn't every bill on the list?
2006-12-05 17:44:47
34.   Honoluludodger
29, 31. I agree. Personally, since I grew up in a house filled with Red Sox fans, I believe that that type of PR management will be impossible. Still, that is what the Red Sox should do. Either that or Mr. Drew could suddenly reach his legendary "potential". Otherwise, I don't know if the Red Sox fans will love Mr. Drew the way we did.

Mahalo.

2006-12-05 17:45:58
35.   saltcreek
26. as am I. I need to go find a new favorite dodger.
2006-12-05 17:45:59
36.   LAT
It will be tough seeing Gagne pitch elsewhere but if it is Boston at least he won't face us. At least not often. Also unlike the way Gazo feels about the D'Backs or LoDuca feels about the Dodgers, Gagne should not harbor any ill-will towards the Dodgers.

As for Drew, he would be well served if the Sox keep Manny as that would make him the third biggest bat and reduce expectations, but I don't see that happening. How do you sign the Dodger trifecta, keep Manny and still have enough money to obtain the Boras represented Daisuke Matsuzaka. I believe a Manny deal will be made in the next 9 days. That is how long the Sox have to negotiate for Matsuzaka before the window closes and he is sent back to Japan.

Lastly, whether Drew is accepted in Boston will not be determined by the quality of his play. He will hit like Ted Williams in Fenway. The issue will be if he plays at all. If he has an early injury or worse yet injuries himself in spring training--watch out it will get ugly in a hurry.

2006-12-05 17:47:41
37.   Bob Timmermann
30
From the OED:

stair, v.

1 Obs. rare.

[perh. f. STAIR n.]

1. trans. To ascend.

a1400-50 Wars Alex. 3923 Stayrand on e staunke e stour to asaill. Ibid. 4834 With at stairis he forth e stye at stret to e est.
2. trans. To make in the form of stairs.

?a1412 LYDG. Two Merchants 635 Though to richesse ther be no grees i-steyred Tascenden vp.

2006-12-05 17:49:55
38.   Sam DC
I'm thinking Chase Utley makes the list too, unless I skimmed the rules too quick.
2006-12-05 17:52:19
39.   Honoluludodger
36. Aloha LAT. You wrote "He will hit like Ted Williams in Fenway." I guess the real question is whether Mr. Drew will hit like (i)Ted Williams hit in Fenway in 1945 or (ii)Ted Williams would hit in Fenway post cryogenics. Which brings us back to your excellent point about Mr. Drew's injuries (or lack therof) will be the determining factor.

Mahalo.

2006-12-05 17:55:06
40.   Bob Timmermann
Ted Williams didn't get a single hit in Fenway Park in 1945.
2006-12-05 17:55:30
41.   Honoluludodger
39. Correction 1945 should be changed to 1946. Mr. Williams did not play in Fenway in 1945. Let's hope Mr. Drew doesn't have the same problem.
2006-12-05 17:55:55
42.   gpellamjr
Man... Gagne was the only free agent I was hoping would be signed. Where do I direct my anger? Boras? Colletti? Depodesta? JD Drew? Andrew Shimmin?
2006-12-05 17:56:19
43.   Honoluludodger
40. I was typing my correction while you made your post. Bravo Mr. Timmerman.
2006-12-05 17:58:30
44.   D4P
42
Always direct at least some of your anger Mr. Walmart...
2006-12-05 17:58:55
45.   Berkeley Doug
7 In the spirit of the discussion about Ted Williams and Jon's title for this post, I would highly recommend John Updike's piece about Ted Williams' last game. It's one of my favorite pieces of baseball literature.
2006-12-05 18:02:24
46.   jakewoods
What a waste of dough.

He couldnt carry Trot Nixons jock.

2006-12-05 18:03:00
47.   dsfan
Assuming Lugo gets about $9 million per year and Matsuzaka gets about $12 million per year, the Red Sox soon will count about $157 million on their 2007 budget for NINE players plus the Seibu bid. The nine: Matsuzaka, Drew, Ramirez, Clement, Lugo, Schilling, Ortiz, Lowell, Varitek.

Two mitigating factors for Boston: The bid to Seibu is exempted from the luxury tax and, MLB protestations notwithstanding, the Sox could partly offset the bid's cost by cutting side deals with Seibu.
However, the present-day-value of the $51.1 million makes it even more expensive, as the entire sum is due once the Sox come to terms with Matsuzaka. Clement, by the way, has a bum shoulder and is basically a sunk cost at $9.25 million.

I think Boston is one Manny hamstring twinge away from feeling pretty desperate to save a huge chunk on Manny. Hopefully if the Dodgers revisit these talks they will act like they are in the driver's set rather than jumping in front of the front grill, like they did in the Pierre talks.

2006-12-05 18:04:05
48.   Sam DC
So, am I no longer fit for polite company if I'm wondering what happened to Eric Stults? Last I remember, he was standing up to the Mets in fine fashion, now he seems to have been airbrushed out of all the old photos.
2006-12-05 18:04:49
49.   Bob Timmermann
48
These aren't the droids you're looking for.
2006-12-05 18:05:30
50.   Honoluludodger
46. Aloha jakewoods. You write, "He couldnt carry Trot Nixons jock." If that was one of the reasons that Boston signed Mr Drew, I think that they overpaid him. You can find much cheaper (and friendlier) labor for that kind of work.

Mahalo.

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2006-12-05 18:06:53
51.   Sam DC
I had wondered about that -- they couldn't agree to a payment schedule that spread the posting money out over some time period (the length of Dash's contract, for example)?
2006-12-05 18:07:01
52.   Bob Timmermann
43
Some of us had teachers that got us through the section on World War II in school.

I remember my father telling me stories about what he did during World War II. He was part of the Greatest Generation. The part of that stayed home because he was too young to fight, but he did make sure the cows got milked and would drive the tractor on dates because it was exempt from gas rationing.

2006-12-05 18:08:28
53.   Sam DC
I think Trot Nixon works for Eric's game. Ho Chi Minh might have said it! Or Sam Ervin.
2006-12-05 18:09:13
54.   D4P
52
I learned for the first time, just this past Thanksgiving, that my father's father was attending the University of California at Berkeley studying to be a dentist when he was called away to fly bomber planes over the Pacific in WWII. He never finished his dentistry studies.
2006-12-05 18:09:18
55.   Honoluludodger
43. Is that a joke about my apparent failure to understand that WWII ended in 1945? Mr. Timmerman, you show me no aloha.
2006-12-05 18:10:56
56.   Bob Timmermann
55
Actually, it was more of a reference to Greg Brock's ability to drag his kids through the entire curriculum in history class and not get stuck in the Civil War for six weeks.

And a good chance to talk about my dad and cows.

2006-12-05 18:11:20
57.   gpellamjr
44 Um... did you just call me "Mr. Walmart"? Okay... back to grading papers, whose strange punctuation, limited diction, and verbless sentences I am paid (though poorly) to criticize.
2006-12-05 18:11:54
58.   dsfan
51

Nope, the entire bid is due upon agreement to terms with the player. Heck, I doubt several clubs even have $51.1 million in cash, let alone the ability to spend it at once. That's one reason so many people are skeptical about Lucchino's recent journey to Japan. Somehow, someway you can bet the Sox are confident that they can cut some sort of side deal with Seibu that will offset that $51.1 million.

2006-12-05 18:12:39
59.   D4P
57
Oops, that was supposed to say "toward Mr. Walmart"
2006-12-05 18:13:48
60.   Honoluludodger
55. Mr. Timmerman, you are always welcome to write about your Dad and cows. Incidentally, I have my degree in history and I certainly know that WWII ended in 1945. Just a typo. Aloha.
2006-12-05 18:14:58
61.   dsfan
I'm not from Hawaii but I like the word mahalo. What a great way to end a post.

Mahalo.

2006-12-05 18:16:46
62.   Honoluludodger
61. Aloha dsfan.

Mahalo for your mahalo.

2006-12-05 18:18:01
63.   Robert Daeley
Rangers interested in Repko?

"Repko isn't likely to hack it as an everyday center fielder, but he'd be a fine platoonmate for a left-handed hitter. The Rangers could sign Kenny Lofton and then recreate the Dodgers' center-field situation from the early part of last year."

http://tinyurl.com/yzthpu

2006-12-05 18:20:05
64.   Sam DC
60 It's not just cows. Bob can cover his dad's views on the run of ungulates, including beeves, heifers, steer, oxen. Good clean fun.
2006-12-05 18:20:45
65.   trainwreck
Jason Repko? This Dodger coveting is getting out of hand.
2006-12-05 18:25:51
66.   Eric Enders
30 Sam, as in spelling bees, the official arbiter is Webster's Unabridged, Third Edition. Which doesn't include "stair" as a verb, alas.

Whoever said Ben Hendrickson before, that counts. And yes, so does every Bill.

2006-12-05 18:28:34
67.   trainwreck
Rangers | More on Zito offer
Mon, 4 Dec 2006 23:38:01 -0800

Updating a previous item, The Chicago Tribune and Fox Sports' Ken Rosenthal are both reporting the contract offer to free-agent SP Barry Zito (Athletics) from the Texas Rangers is six years at $102 million.

2006-12-05 18:29:20
68.   Eric Enders
Mark Hendrickson. Ben Hendrickson doesn't count.
2006-12-05 18:30:06
69.   gpellamjr
59 Don't take it personal, dude. I'm really made at Andrew, I didn't mean to take it out on you. Can you forgive me so we can focus our vitriol where it belongs?
2006-12-05 18:31:37
70.   dsfan
Jon,

I enjoyed your Drew post. If you are looking to write more about Drew, how about examining (again) whether Ned should have better anticipated his departure. I'm not saying Ned should have known a few months ago that Drew was going to get $70 million. Still Drew more than doubled his $33 million and Ned acted like a guy who didn't see anything like that on the horizon. Kind of scary, no? Markets are tough to predict, of course. Who would have predicted that Pierre would get $44 million?
Maybe the Dodgers are better off without Drew but it is disappointing that Ned wasn't more attuned to Drew/Boras and the markets. So often Dodgers GMs appear to react posthaste to events rather than anticipating them. This looks like another example. Teams like Oakland and San Diego, conversely, seem to anticipate events.

2006-12-05 18:31:38
71.   Sam DC
Chase Utley and Barry Bonds are in too, I'd say.

Musing on Ben Sheets, but I don't think it's going to get there.

2006-12-05 18:32:05
72.   Honoluludodger
59. I don't like Walmart either. But I really like Kmart. I understand that its the "savings place".

Mahalo.

2006-12-05 18:33:04
73.   Bob Timmermann
I meant no disrespect in 43, but I see how it didn't work.

Like John Kerry, a "botched joke."

Time to go find a rich widowed heiress to a ketchup fortune I guess.

2006-12-05 18:33:14
74.   D4P
More on Zito offer

I think you meant moron Zito offer

69
I wasn't taking anything personally. I was trying to say that, of course you should direct anger toward Andrew Shimmin.

2006-12-05 18:34:11
75.   gpellamjr
68 Can we count names that are sentences with an elipsis of the form of "to be"?
2006-12-05 18:34:24
76.   Honoluludodger
70. Aloha dsfan. I agree completely. I do not care that we lost Mr. Drew, but I wish that our management did not appear to be shocked by it.

Mahalo.

2006-12-05 18:35:21
77.   gpellamjr
74 Listen, you're not making this any easier on me, can you just accept an apology for once?
2006-12-05 18:36:39
78.   D4P
77
In the immortal words of "Maverick": "No apologies"

(Cue: Take My Breath Away)

2006-12-05 18:36:41
79.   gpellamjr
So, is it really the case that the Dodgers couldn't/wouldn't offer Gagne a $5mil/1yr deal? I hardly believe it.
2006-12-05 18:37:38
80.   nick
71 Chase Utley? I don't even know Utley....
2006-12-05 18:38:09
81.   dzzrtRatt
63 The reason ex-Dodgers are so popular? The other teams are hoping that Billingsley/Kemp/Martin/Loney/Broxton/Kuo magic is contagious!

I reserve the right to change my mind; I already have. But as of now, I would advise Neddy to try to sign Schmidt, but if that doesn't work out, just stand pat. Every position except for SS and C should be a competition this spring. Let's just see what we've got.

The curse of having all these hot prospects is every GM thinks he has to bag one if he does a deal with LA. Nobody wants Hendrickson or Tomko or Hall. Even if they need 'em, they don't want 'em. It would be like going to Nordstrom's and only buying underwear (which I've done.) So we're not going to hear realistic offers for anybody.

2006-12-05 18:39:38
82.   Sam DC
So, other than Obi Wan, no one's gonna bite on Eric Stults?
2006-12-05 18:39:47
83.   nick
and a simple comma between the words would bring "Andy Pettite" into play...
2006-12-05 18:40:00
84.   Honoluludodger
73. Aloha Mr. Timmerman. That is correct. And like Mr. Kerry, the "botch" ruined a perfectly good joke. I have to learn to type more effectively just as Mr. Kerry, apparently needs to practice his jokes a little more before he makes them.

Mahalo

2006-12-05 18:44:59
85.   Bob Timmermann
84
In the meantime, I have become the heir to a large mustard fortune.
2006-12-05 18:45:06
86.   Eric Enders
75 No... I'm a stickler.

Sentences requiring commas sorta count, albeit with an asterisk, like Ernie Shore. In fact "Ernie, shore." is one of these.

Ron, hunt.
Al, maul.

etc

2006-12-05 18:46:01
87.   Sam DC
Aloha, Honoluludodger. Just 'cause you're using it quite a bit, and because Bob is too polite (and unconcerned) to say anything, thought I'd pass on that he does Timmermann with two n's at the end.

Cheers.

2006-12-05 18:47:53
88.   Sam DC
86 Jason, bay.
2006-12-05 18:52:10
89.   Bob Timmermann
So "Phenomenal! Smith" wouldn't count?
2006-12-05 18:52:45
90.   saltcreek
The Lugo deal is 4 years 36 million. Glad we at least got some picks. Wish we would have offered Maddux arb though.
2006-12-05 18:57:44
91.   StolenMonkey86
All in all, not a bad day for me.

Get out of my physics lab exam early, get $30 in an econ experiment, and we got Saito for a cool $1,000,000.

2006-12-05 18:59:07
92.   saltcreek
106 million on JD Drew and Lugo. I dont understand they can afford Daisuke Matsuzaka, Lugo, Drew, and still somehow get a closer without trading Manny.
2006-12-05 18:59:44
93.   Uncle Miltie
Why does Dan Shulman always get paired with Dick Vitale? It would be like Vin getting paired with Tim McCarver.
2006-12-05 18:59:46
94.   Benaiah
36 - I honestly do not think the Red Sox are going to sign Matsuzaka. From the very beginning that bid screamed: "block the Yankees!" I don't think Manny is going to get traded and arguably the Sox would be better off with him than with Matsuzaka. They would have the best lineup in the league bar none, and they would be competitive with the Yanks staff too, especially if some of their young guys pitch better.
2006-12-05 19:03:19
95.   Kayaker7
Nice writeup, Jon. I was thinking that if I were in Drew's shoes, the $70M will help me cope emotionally.
2006-12-05 19:03:59
96.   LAT
81. It would be like going to Nordstrom's and only buying underwear

In the case of Hendrickson, Tomko or Hall that would be dirty underwear.

2006-12-05 19:05:05
97.   Bob Timmermann
I've gone to Nordstrom and just bought underwear.
2006-12-05 19:05:13
98.   Ladderkite
94 - The Yankees had "the best lineup in the league" last year. That didn't work out too well. Pitching is where it's at. Matsuzaka could be an Ace for a decade.
2006-12-05 19:07:44
99.   gpellamjr
89 I imagine Enders requires all sentences to have verbs (and my students call me a grammar nazi!). My favorite sentence in all of western literature is from Xenophon's Anabasis: "Thalassa! Thalassa!" If it's good enough for Xenophon, it's good enough for me. All names, being exclamable, are sentences. "Mike Piazza!" "Tim Wallach!" "Greg Pellam!"
2006-12-05 19:08:09
100.   saltcreek
94. I still think the yankees will have the better lineup. Besides Ortiz, Varitek, and Manny, the yankees have the edge at every position.
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2006-12-05 19:09:31
101.   regfairfield
98 It got them the best record in baseball.
2006-12-05 19:10:07
102.   still bevens
Who's to say the Red Sox wont go over their budget? I mean, what stops the Yankees? John Hendry has the money doesnt he?
2006-12-05 19:10:48
103.   Benaiah
98 - The Red Sox had the best lineup in 2004, how did that work out?
Pitching is important, but it is less than 50% of what wins games. Scoring runs is half of winning and preventing runs is the other half. Since hitting explains basically all of scoring runs, but defense also makes up part of run prevention, hitting is more important than pitching. In a five game series anything can happen, but over the course of the year, hitting trumps pitching.
2006-12-05 19:13:37
104.   D4P
Since hitting explains basically all of scoring runs

Scoring runs = f(hitting, character, veteran presence, knowing how to win)

2006-12-05 19:15:30
105.   trainwreck
The Red Sox are rich who says that cannot afford all these players.
2006-12-05 19:16:32
106.   Bob Timmermann
I thought John Henry was a steel driving man?
2006-12-05 19:18:31
107.   robohobo
94. I agree. I remember someone on this blog hypothesizing why the Red Sox couldn't bid 100 million dollar (muu hah hah hah) just to block the Yankees, not sign the guy and be not a penny poorer. They didn't end up bidding 100 million, just 51,111,111 bucks.
2006-12-05 19:19:00
108.   D4P
The Dodgers also are believed to have made a run at Milwaukee outfielder Kevin Mench, as they did at last year's Winter Meetings, when he was coming off a 25-homer season in Texas. He was traded to Milwaukee during the 2006 season, in which he hit only 13 homers. The Brewers are looking for starting pitching, so Mark Hendrickson could be a trade candidate
2006-12-05 19:19:34
109.   Ladderkite
Time and time again dominant pitching wins in the postseason (DBacks). I'm not going to get drawn into the exhaustive pitching vs hitting debate, however it is obvious that both are indeed necessary. Regular season records are obviously moot come playoff time (Cardinals, Marlins, etc...). I am simply stating that having "the best lineup in baseball" isn't enough. Ha