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2) personally attacking other commenters
3) baiting other commenters
4) arguing for the sake of arguing
5) discussing politics
6) using hyperbole when something less will suffice
7) using sarcasm in a way that can be misinterpreted negatively
8) making the same point over and over again
9) typing "no-hitter" or "perfect game" to describe either in progress
10) being annoyed by the existence of this list
11) commenting under the obvious influence
12) claiming your opinion isn't allowed when it's just being disagreed with
When I play ball (not that I've been doing much of it lately), I have to force myself to keep cool.
Even in the Sunday softball games I used to play in each week - just pickup games, nothing serious - I can remember more than once hitting that rare home run (say, on a gapper past the outfielders) and jamming my lips together to make sure a smile didn't cross my face too soon or too big. If I grounded out or made an error in a key situation - or even in some moments of no moment - my instinct would be to exclaim exclamatorily, perhaps a nicely chosen profanity off the right side of the menu.
I think part of the reason I got in the habit of getting upset was that subconsciously, I wanted whoever was watching to know that I was trying, that I cared, that I appreciated the magnitude of the opportunity lost. I think part of me felt that showing my emotions might lighten up or forestall any anger or disappointment coming my way.
But then, when I thought about it consciously, I realized that I'd prefer folks not to think I was tempermental or that I couldn't handle failure. First instinct: get hot. Second instinct: be cool.
Anyway, I've been wondering if all this is another reason, in addition to my feeling he was criticized excessively as a Dodger, that I tended to rally to J.D. Drew's defense.
Keep in mind - I have never loved Drew - I've just always appreciated his production. R.J. Reynolds, for example, wasn't the ballplayer that Drew is, but Reynolds is near and dear to my heart in ways Drew couldn't possibly approach.
Drew's stoic presence on the field has frustrated many a fan, and I get that. But maybe it's because I find stoicism a greater challenge than passion that I am not bothered at all by Drew. The guy goes and does his job, and doesn't appear to worry about what other people think of him. As they say about folks who hand the ball to the ref after they've scored a touchdown, he acts like he's been there before. Like he belongs.
Baseball can be a grimly frustrating game, but Drew stands up to all the frustrations - and the abuse - and takes it. I respect that. I don't need to see Drew get excited when he hits an RBI double - the double itself is excitement enough. I don't need to see Drew go Carlos Perez on a water cooler. I really don't. To me, that's the easy way out.
Drew is not insecure, and I am. And I guess opposites attract. But maybe I'm strange, and maybe that's the whole problem.
As for Drew's stalled contract with the Red Sox still nothing new, according to Jeff Horrigan of the Boston Herald. Drew is still expected to get the contract, but with some additional language to protect the Red Sox against preexisting health concerns. Most of baseball is rooting for Drew and agent Scott Boras to eat it on this deal. I'm not - I don't care either way - and maybe that's just another sign something's wrong with me.
vr, Xei
Randy Wolf and Adam Eaton are a wash since both are coming back from injuries and are considered question marks (with the potential to be very good).
Derek Lowe is a medium-sized upgrade over Moyer. Neither has the potential to be a true ace anymore, but Lowe's ERA should remain a full half run lower than Moyer's.
Jason Schmidt is a medium-sized upgrade over Freddy Garcia once you adjust for Garcia coming to the NL and a possible Schmidt semi-decline.
Billingsley and Hamels are about even right now with Hamels having a bit more potential.
To respond to that, there's also:
1) I actually like Myers better than Penny, but I see your point.
2) I think Lowe is a huge upgrade over Moyer, with a lot less homers, and a far lower ERA, and being around a decade younger.
3) I'd agree with that.
4) First of all, I think the fact that Garcia will be in the NL will be offset by the hitters ballpark, and it won't be an extreme difference anyway. Also, Schmidt is a huge upgrade over Garcia unless he totally falls off the map. Sure, Garcia has better control, but Schmidt K's a ton more than Garcia.
5)Well, I guess you can say that, however, another point that needs to be brought up is the fact that the dodgers have Kuo as their 5th/6th, who is surely better than Leiber, and Eaton, and has the potential really to be as good as anyone in the Phillies rotation. I don't know, I just think that the Phillies rotation might be a bit overrated right now.
So you want a JD Drew intervention?
2 - Kuo could just as easily become the next Gavin Floyd (or Edwin Jackson) as the next Jon Lieber...
I think the more fair comps would be Lowe = Garcia, Schmidt > Hamels (but this one is already close and the two could not be on more different career trajectories), and currently Moyer > Billingsley on sheer experiencitude alone.
k/9, k/bb, hr/9
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I'll take those odds.
7 - True or false. About 99 percent of players in sports, Randy Wolf exception duly noted, try to maximize the dollar value of their next contract.
Now, the point of my post is not to debate J.D. Drew for the 15th time, but I have a feeling that this will be the last time I write about him, so I can't resist making these points.
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The noisy and foolish see stoicism as carelessness and lack of intensity, but it's really just another way of dealing with the ups and downs of life (to say nothing of baseball): Life is tough? Suck it up and deal with it. Is it a bad thing? The thereapeutic culture in which we wallow today may see it that way, but the Ancient Romans considered it a virtue and did pretty well thereby.
Jon is probably right to note that it is more difficult to master than the art of letting it all hang out; I would also add that it's the preferrable course for people who tend to be ennervated by strong emotions rather than energized by them. I'm like that myself; I don't do anything well when I'm angry or elated, and am always best served by taking a deep breath to clear my head.
All the Yankee fans wanted from him was a few fist pumps and high fives. Instead, he stoically went about his work and forever earned the enmity of everyone in New York.
Preach, brother. Preach.
I guess I won't buy an advance tickets, but I think I could happily make the trip to see Kershaw.
10. Glad to hear we have reached the end of the line on this issue.
Celebrations are a distraction to one's mind even if they entertain the fan that wants something to fill the time between something happening and the next time something happens.
However, I enjoy watching people having fun whether it be between innings or enjoying a homerun. Stoic is not fun to watch but it is better than watching someone display anger.
I would have liked for Drew to steal more and assume that he didn't because it added risk of injury. Boring.
I dislike players that want to play hurt if it means they wind up playing at 75%. Let someone with less skill that can play 100% get some playing time. Dusty Baker was terrible when he was tired and yet he played instead of resting. Drew has it right in that regard.
And while I am at it I think managers that argue vehemently are ridiculously stupid. Baseball would be better if managers were not let on the field to argue like in football and basketball.
Canuck, who might we see starting the season with the Great Lakes Loons? I'm already planning to see them in Ft. Wayne 9-12 April and also catch them later on in Dayton in hopes of catching (not really catching, just seeing) Kershaw. Kind of exciting to have Dodgers prospects in my area for once, or at least as exciting as Low A can be.
This is an excerpt from a recent pool report by a White House correspondent, quoted at Fishbowl DC (a DC media gossip web site):
"The president was accompanied on his bike ride by a half-dozen young men and women in brightly-colored riding gear. One was identified as a member of the White House legislative affairs office. Four of them carried rakes and brooms along with their riding gear; why they had the rakes and brooms with them was unclear." -- Tara Copp, Austin American-Statesman
Let me know what you find.
I realize that it would be destructive to the clubhouse if anyone criticized Drew on the record during the season. But ultimately, I don't see a lot of good in teammates knocking a player to reporters, on or off the record.
Until last year I played softball twice a week for 20 years in Santa Monica or Culver City.
If Russ Martin hadn't been so excited about the Dodger 4 & 1 game last year it would have lost a little luster for me. His reaction to the home runs made it just a little bit better. If the dugout had been made up of JD's would we as fans have cared as much if the players didn't? I hate showboating emotion, I love real raw emotion. If JD had been Kirk Gibson would they keep showing the reel over and over. Heck no, it is the fist pump that still gives me chills. An emotionless game is not something I'm interested in vesting my time into.
But, they recognized his work ethic and his importance to the team. They respected him s a player even though they may not have respected his love affair with the tv camera.
Drew's team mates had to respect that Drew, when he was not hurting, showed up ready to play and play with skill and hustle. They may not have respected his desire to not play when hurting.
Drew was surrounded by people full of testosterone that often think with their testosterone and not their brains. I think Drew would rather have a career where there was less testosterone but not to the extent that he would give up millions to do it.
There were times that he was the placekicker sharing space in the locker room with linebackers. Placekickers are not one of the boys but still needed if a team is to win.
There's not nearly enough expressiveness in baseball. Can't a guy at least break a smile and look happy when he steals 2nd? We know he feels it inside. He's on a stage and therefore has SOME duty to emote.
Something similar could be said of people who say they don't mind all the foreign players. But what if every player was Japanese? Would the pro foreign Anglo fan still be ok with it?
I think it doesn't speak highly of a player that he is celebrating the loss of a top contributor to the winning effort, if that player's biggest personality flaw was being tepid. I'm also not enamored of whoever spread the story to the press. It seemed particularly vindictive.
Off the record, I would expect people talk about their teammates/co-workers. I know that beat writers are part of that world, but I think it's easy enough to draw the line between on and off the record.
It isn't in their genes.
Vijay Singh is close. It's the same subcontinent!
Maybe a few other tennis players?
We call that his "O-face." As in, "If things go well I might be showing her my O-face. 'Oh... Oh... Oh!' You know what I'm talkin' about. 'Oh!'"
The rooting for players who look like you thing doesn't hold up unless most here are 6'4", 250 lbs, left handed and Korean.
"The Washington Nationals and the Mid-Atlantic Sports Network announced Monday that Hall-of-Fame pitcher Don Sutton will be the new color analyst for Washington Nationals telecasts in 2007. He will join play-by-play broadcaster Bob Carpenter in the booth for over 150 regular season Nationals games carried over the team's regional sports network, MASN."
A Hall of Fame pitcher and a Hall of Fame Scorecardmaker. Together!
Foreign players are something "to mind" because we're human and we mind stuff for no apparent reason, but a reason nonetheless.
We do indeed "identify with people who look like us", so while it's not a "prerequisite to enjoy a sport", it is a factor. How much? Who knows?
I used the word Anglo, because most baseball fans in this country are from Anglo stock. If I were typing in Japan, I would have turned it around. If I were typing in Latin America, it would be mere truism, since so many people feel this way that hey have racialist rules about how many Anglo Americans can be on their teams.
By now everyone understands your point about Hong Chih Kuo. Intentionally and repeatedly misspelling a grown man's name seems to be an 8 in addition to being disrespectful and paternalistic to the guy you are trying to "help". In addition, it is being disrespectful to the audience of this blog to be repeatedly forcedfed Xeifrank's pronunciation lesson. It comes off as only you know what the guy's real name is and how everyone else is mis or ill informed and needs to be repeatedly reminded. It comes off very holier than thou after the 100th time or so.
If Kuo's name is indeed misspelled he'll correct it if and when he feels like it. He may not want to and he may have good reasons for not doing so. It's up to him, not you. Doing so for him seems extremely presumptuous in addition to being disrespectful. Until then, how about we respect the guy's humanity and intelligence and leave his name as it's officially reported and keep phonetic pronunciation lessons off of DT?
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That was one of those annoying posts that was actually more annoying than the annoying post that inspired it.
Sorry,
I'm guo-ing to lunch now.
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Our loss is the Japanese Minor League's gain.
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I imagine Tom Brady has fewer arrests.
Dreamier than Tom Brady...As if that's even physically/emotionally/spiritually possible.
I assumed his brain was still pronouncing it "Guo."
But I believe they would all be Tom Brady.
Yuck.
"I'm going to go masturbate now."
The letters K and G are interchangeable when transliterating Chinese (and Taiwanese should one desire to make that distinction) words, so I assume that Kuo = Guo would actually be more OK than not.
"Oh, you won't disturb me. I'll be in my room masturbating."
[86] i agree, both seem acceptable. the character is really supposed to be guo, but if hong-chih himself uses the k, then that can't be wrong either. it's like the y in jayson. but if xei wants to spell it his way, so be it. it's not wrong, and he's not telling anyone else to change their spelling. i prefer using the K because K = strikeout, and then i can call him kuofax as well. it doesn't seem like a big deal either way though.
That is one bizarre attitude...when you consider that in baseball, almost 100% of the time you do something good to help your own stat line, you also are helping your team.
So is gnowledke!
and for the record, i think imposing limits on foreign players here or in japan or wherever is stupid. the market for talent should be allowed to sort itself out.
I disagree.
I'd rather guys just do their jobs and be stoic, rather than be all about false hustle and showboat. I absolutely HATE batters that stare in at the pitcher after they've been brushed back.
Just play the game.
I'd rather guys be more like Ladainian Tomlinson (he just hands the ball to the ref after he each TD), rather than all the guys that dance in the endzone.
False dichotomy, and verbally biased...it need not be either or. You can set up any statement to have pleasing adjectives in the first clause and negative ones in the second. But you end up saying nothing.
I don't expect I'd mind if all the Anglos were supplanted by foreigners. But the day when baseball is an all robot sport will be a hard one to accept.
I'm surprised somebody hasn't uploaded that onto youtube yet.
Haven't you heard yet that everybody on the planet except you is a robot designed by the Creator of the Universe simply to see how you react?
Some robots hustle, and some opt out of contracts, but you, Andrew Shimmin, are the only one who can think for himself.
If there was any doubt before that the FA market is completely out of whack you need look no further then Hendrickson's contract. I wish I could lose most of my cases, disappoint my clients, cost my firm money and then get a 33% raise.
Bobby Cox has to get a lot of credit, along with some for Stan Kasten, who hired John S., who hired Cox. Sure, the Braves faltered last year. But 14 consecutive division titles speaks for itself, even if they did yield only one WS title.
Does anyone know where Schuerholtz stands on the oversimplified stats vs. scouts issue? Does he lean one way?
Also, a while back ESPN had fan voting to rank GMs. I never found those results.
Whatever the outcome, fan opinion is one thing. But has any baseball authority done a ranking like this lately? If so, is there a link?
As far as where Colletti might rank, I wouldn't think he's been on the job long enough for a ranking to be worth a whole lot.
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