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Glamour (or Glamor)
2007-01-24 13:38
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

"Glamour?"

- Jerry Seinfeld

* * *

The National League West is the new glamor division, according to Bob Klapisch of ESPN.com.

Me, I prefer glamour with a u. Either appears acceptable. (I just noticed that Sons of Steve Garvey has more. Also, don't miss the Sons' Guo Dodgers posting.)

Comments (120)
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2007-01-24 14:24:32
1.   Bob Timmermann
But glamorous looks better than glamourous.
2007-01-24 14:32:53
2.   Greg Brock
I'm still holding out for "glammer"
2007-01-24 14:36:19
3.   Bob Timmermann
The OED doesn't even list "glamor" as an alternate spelling. However, it is "glamorous."
2007-01-24 14:40:06
4.   TellMeTheScoreRickMonday
And "amorous."

Please, grammar us!

2007-01-24 14:45:44
5.   Bob Timmermann
You're just too marvelous
Too marvelous for words
Like glorious, glamorous
And that old standby amorous

It's all too wonderful
I'll never find the words
That say enough, tell enough
I mean they just aren't swell enough

You're much too much, and just too very very
To ever be, in Webster's dictionary
And so, I'm borrowing a love song from the birds
To tell you that you're marvelous
Too marvelous for words

2007-01-24 14:51:26
6.   Xeifrank
Guo Dodgers!! Has a nice ring to it.
vr, Xei
2007-01-24 15:01:43
7.   StolenMonkey86
In mentioning the Dodgers' superior rotation, no mention of Penny, but there is mention of Lowe and Randy Wolf.

Hey, at least it's not too good to be true.

2007-01-24 15:06:21
8.   Disabled List
How do you pronounce "Xei" anyway?

Would it be ok if I came up with an alternate phonetic spelling for your name?

2007-01-24 15:08:38
9.   Xeifrank
8. Not sure I follow where this line of questioning is going. Two and a half billion people would spell it Guo, so it's not really much of a stretch to spell it that way. vr, Xei
2007-01-24 15:12:01
10.   D4P
Two and a half billion people would spell it Guo

Does that mean four billion people would spell it Kuo...?

2007-01-24 15:12:58
11.   Xeifrank
9. Well maybe I'm off by a billion or so.
vr, Xei
2007-01-24 15:14:05
12.   Bob Timmermann
I remember when the most important man in China was Teng Hsiao Ping. Then it was Deng Xiaoping.

Yet it was the same guy.

2007-01-24 15:15:59
13.   Xeifrank
10. I'm not sure, you'd have to do a head count on that. I'm not too sure on how it would be spelled in languages like Hebrew, Polish, Arabic and in some of the African languages. A fair comparison would be between the chinese native speaking people. Far more spell it with a "G" and they ALL pronounce it with a "G" sound and not with a "K" sound. Thanks for asking though.
vr, Xei
2007-01-24 15:16:46
14.   TellMeTheScoreRickMonday
9. Just curions, you don't happen to be a politician from Kaohsiung, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Hsieh

2007-01-24 15:16:56
15.   TellMeTheScoreRickMonday
sorry, "curious"
2007-01-24 15:18:06
16.   bhsportsguy
Another Steve and John lovefest with Neddy coming up on their show. For those on the net, you can get it by googling 710 KSPN and listen to the Big Show.

No, I don't work for them.

2007-01-24 15:20:05
17.   Xeifrank
14. That's a different Frank Hsieh, I'm the one who runs the fishing boat out of Hualien.
vr, Xei
2007-01-24 15:20:50
18.   Midwest Blue
Evidence that Dodger fans everywhere are being repressed:

http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=local&id=4757721

Just the man trying to geep us down...

2007-01-24 15:21:06
19.   Andrew Shimmin
It's hard to make a reasonable objection to spelling it Guo without breaking rule five.
2007-01-24 15:21:41
20.   Disabled List
Nobody tells Brett Favre and Antawn Jamison that their names are misspelled.

As far as I'm concerned, it's Kuo until Hong-Chih tells me different.

2007-01-24 15:25:06
21.   Bob Timmermann
I believe we can all agree that the name can be spelled both with a K or G and neither is "right" or "wrong."
2007-01-24 15:25:23
22.   Andrew Shimmin
People have been telling Brett Favre that his name was misspelled (or mispronounced) forever. And they're right!
2007-01-24 15:26:18
23.   Bob Timmermann
18
It took me four days to hitchhike from Saginaw.
2007-01-24 15:27:10
24.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 11

Of course, in Taiwan, where Kuo's from, they would spell it Kuo. =)

I for one don't understand why anyone around here got peeved about xeifrank's mission to spell Kuo via Hanyu pinyin romanization, but pinyin does have some problems. My name, for example, would be xie in pinyin, which for English speakers is far more mysterious than Hsieh (the reason, btw, it isn't Shieh, the closest English could come, is because the x/hs sound in Mandarin is subtly different from the usual English sh sound, and my impression is that the linguists wanted to distinguish that somehow).

Of course, my own name has some romanization issues. The ROC immigration people got my name wrong--it should be Wei-hsiang Hsieh--and both my parents and INS followed their spelling for reasonable reasons. It was only maybe six months ago that I realized that even by Wade-Giles romanization (the Taiwanese system also used by Kuo), it was incorrect.

WWSH

2007-01-24 15:27:16
25.   Disabled List
22 But you don't make a point of spelling his name "Farve", do you?
2007-01-24 15:27:32
26.   Xeifrank
20. That's fine. Hong-Chih (as you call him) won't disagree with the spelling, but if you ask him to pronounce his last name you will hear a G-Wo sound and not a Ko sound, like those in the MSM and the Dodger announcers pronounce. I simple choose to spell his last name the way more chinese people tend to spell it and the way which would encourage a correct pronouncement. All I really ask, is for his name to be pronounced correctly, or somewhat correctly. It's currently butchered.
vr, Xei
2007-01-24 15:30:27
27.   Andrew Shimmin
By the way, big thanks to bhsportsguy. Nothing like radio talk show guys singing Abba. Really. Super hot tip, there.
2007-01-24 15:31:00
28.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
BTW, this is the real way to spell Kuo's name =):

郭泓志

WWSH

2007-01-24 15:36:39
29.   Disabled List
21 I'll be honest, I don't think spelling his name with a G is "right". He gets to spell his name they way he wants. If he changes it to a "G", then fine. Nobody made a point of constantly writing Jayson Werth's first name as "Jason", although we certainly got a lot of comedy mileage out if it.

I understand Xei is on a mission to ensure correct pronunciation, but if I had an unusually pronounced name (like Mr. Favre), I wouldn't appreciate somebody purposely misspelling it, even if their intentions were good.

2007-01-24 15:37:58
30.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
If people are really curious about Kuo's name, here's a useful passage from my old Chinese language textbook:

"The unaspirated b, d, and g are also unvoiced, meaning that they do not employ the vocal cords in their pronunciation. This makes them slightly different from the English b as in "boy," d as in "dog," or g as in "goat." To be very precise, they are like the p in "sport," the ti in "stage," and the k in "sky."

There is a "k" used in Hanyu pinyin, a "guttural" sound--i.e. controlled at the back of the mouth--which matches the english equivalent. This is where xeifrank has a real point--although the english G sound is also not quite right, its IMO closer than the English k sound.

WWSH

2007-01-24 15:39:27
31.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
BTW, someone should tell the Toaster people how impressed I am I was able to past Chinese characters in here.

WWSH

2007-01-24 15:43:04
32.   Jon Weisman
Guys, I love ya, but this debate is played. Kuo and Guo are acceptable. Move on. It's becoming like a Choi thing, as I think someone pointed out.

I shouldn't have to fear we're going to go down the same path every time I mention Kuo's name or every time Xeifrank mentions Guo's name.

2007-01-24 15:43:07
33.   Bob Timmermann
When Rangers reliever, Akinori Otsuka pitched in Japan (or in the WBC), his uniform read "Ohtsuka", but the English language press in Japan would spell his name "Otsuka" and in the US, his uniforms have always read "Otsuka".

Kenji Johjima of the Mariners is the first Japanese player to come out to North America and insist on the "oh" spelling.

The "oh" is a slightly longer "o" sound than a plain "o" like in Nomo.

2007-01-24 15:43:08
34.   bhsportsguy
27 They did bring up the debate of at what age should a person stop wearing a jersey out in public and especially the part of when do you not get your own name put on the back?
2007-01-24 15:43:55
35.   Bob Timmermann
I typed 33 while Jon was putting up 32.

I apologize.

2007-01-24 15:47:06
36.   Xeifrank
Nice posts Wayne.
32. You posted about "Guo" in your thread topic. :) If I am not asked about my spelling of Guo any more then I won't go into details about it. But I will continue to spell it Guo and like you said, both are acceptable... but one obviously misleads as far as pronouncing goes. vr, Xei
2007-01-24 15:48:25
37.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 29

Xeifrank wants a romanization that is closer to the actual pronounciation of Kuo's name--your objection seems to be that xeifrank is "correcting" Kuo's own spelling. But Kuo doesn't actually "spell" his name Kuo, he writes it out properly as 郭. When he writes it out as Kuo, he is simply following the fairly arbitrary Wade-Giles system Taiwan/ROC happens to use. When xeifrank is spelling it as Guo, he is following the far more common Hanyu pinyin romanization used in the PRC and what is almost always taught in American colleges and universities. In this case, he's right that its closer to the correct pronunciation than the K.

BTW, as another fun Chinese lesson, the Chinese practice is to say the last name first, so even in Wade-Giles, Kuo would call himself Kuo Hong-chih (or Guo Hongzhi). Also, there are pitch variations in Chinese--Kuo is a first tone--a high level pitch; Hong is a second tone, which rises; while chih is a falling fourth tone. In Chinese, the pitches are crucial--Kuo with a different tone is a totally different character. This is why Chinese Mandarin has such a "sing-song" quality to it to the western ear.

WWSH

2007-01-24 15:50:18
38.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Okay, I'll shut up now... I actually thought this was a fun Chinese language diversion, but I can see how this might soon become another Choi debate. Sorry Jon for stoking the flames, especially after my grumblings about politics on the site earlier.

WWSH

2007-01-24 15:52:14
39.   Andrew Shimmin
34- I'm not following closely. They're talking to Ozzie Smith's kid, who's an American Idol, I guess. Still no Colletti. Abba made a reappearance, for Smith's benefit.

Will update when Colletti deigns to rock the mic.

2007-01-24 15:55:18
40.   Disabled List
I'll retire from the conversation now too, except to respond to 22. Nobody would tell Brett Favre that his name is misspelled to his face!
2007-01-24 15:57:38
41.   Xeifrank
38. Feel free to bring the sing-song discussion over to Sons of Steve Garvey or DodgerSims.
vr, Xei
2007-01-24 15:59:48
42.   D4P
Thanks for asking though

My pleasure

2007-01-24 16:00:30
43.   overkill94
37 I remember being really confused when he first signed Chan Ho Park because initial spellings had it as Park Chan Ho.
2007-01-24 16:02:59
44.   Andrew Shimmin
42- I didn't even notice that this was all your fault. Again.

"Never talk to D4P!"

2007-01-24 16:07:30
45.   Bob Timmermann
43
In high school, I could never keep track of all the leaders in Vietnam until I realized that they were almost all referred to by their first names since the family name for the majority of Vietnamese is "Nguyen."
2007-01-24 16:08:38
46.   Jon Weisman
38 et al - It's nothing personal against anyone. The debate was fun for a while, but it got old a while ago. I haven't minded people talking about it, but I am a little fatigued of people challenging each other about it.

Xeifrank, I completely understand you responding to those questioning how you spell it, but I do think there have been occasions where you have taken the lead in challenging others on spelling or pronounciation more than needed. Similarly, there have been times that Xeifrank has been put on the defensive unnecessarily.

Anyway, I just think we could use a break, because for the most part (though not entirely), the arguments have been reruns.

2007-01-24 16:14:23
47.   D4P
"Never talk to D4P!"

Lil' ole' me...?

2007-01-24 16:20:32
48.   Andrew Shimmin
When I was in high school, Mason and Ireland had a morning show on ESPN2. I used to watch it, and enjoyed it very much.

Sometimes it's hard for me to believe that I really didn't do the drugs in high school. It would explain so much. Maybe I just forgot?

2007-01-24 16:23:15
49.   Bob Timmermann
48
Actually that show was on FSN2. It was just a taping of their radio show with some televised elements tossed in.
2007-01-24 16:25:25
50.   Andrew Shimmin
49- See what I mean?
Show/Hide Comments 51-100
2007-01-24 16:31:42
51.   Ken Arneson
Just for future reference, take this from an old linguistics student:

Every argument (including this one) about transliteration boils down to something like this:

Sound in Language A has features (X, Y, Z).

Language B does not have a sound matching all three features. It has a sound (A, Y, Z), and another sound (X, B, Z), which each have two of the three features.

And then people spend hours upon hours arguing whether (A, Y, Z) is correct or (X, B, Z) is correct, when in fact, neither is exactly correct, and the choice of one or the other is completely arbitrary.

2007-01-24 16:35:38
52.   Marty
My name is Leadman. It can be, and is, pronounced two ways. Only one way is correct. But I answer to both and don't care how it's pronounced. It moves things along much easier.
2007-01-24 16:36:45
53.   D4P
Bucket:

1. BUH-kett

or

2. Boo-KAY

...?

2007-01-24 16:40:06
54.   Bob Timmermann
Marty LE-ahd-MAN
2007-01-24 16:41:01
55.   Vishal
down with vestigial u's!

colorful glamorous neighbors of the world unite! we cannot in good humor and conscience continue to perpetuate this antiquated orthography.

2007-01-24 16:43:44
56.   Xeifrank
55. Vishal, did you have any trouble exiting customs in the country you were studying in?
Did they give you a hard time about your eye drops, as if you were smuggling drugs in them, like they did me. vr, Xei
2007-01-24 16:44:45
57.   StolenMonkey86
While not related to anything discussed here (and for that matter, not an argument waiting to happen), I check MLB4u's 2007 free agent list to try to guess who Colletti goes for next.

My guess is Joe Nathan.

2007-01-24 16:44:55
58.   D4P
My high school physics teacher once challenged us to pronounce "GHOTI." The correct pronunciation (in his little game) was "FISH," as in

enouGH
wOmen
juncTIon

2007-01-24 16:47:56
59.   StolenMonkey86
58 - I've always seen that one with "attention rough women"
2007-01-24 16:48:06
60.   Marty
fra-gee-lay
2007-01-24 16:48:19
61.   Vishal
[56] no customs trouble at all, thankfully. my checked bag was overweight though, so i had to do some hasty unpacking at the airport and put some extra stuff in my carry-on, and in my haste i wasn't thinking and grabbed my toiletries. so, i ended up having to toss some lotion and hair product away when i got to security, but they let me keep my clearly marked little bottle of visine. that's all i had in the way of eye care; i don't wear glasses or contacts.
2007-01-24 16:51:03
62.   D4P
This from FJM:

Over the last four years, Darin Erstad has played 86 fewer games than heartless, soulless, gritless, undetermined J.D. Drew, who has never watched or heard of American football. During that span of time, he earned $3.3 million more than Drew. No one likes J.D. Drew.

If you're not reading www.firejoemorgan.com you really should be.

2007-01-24 16:54:44
63.   Robert Daeley
53 That very well might be a "Keeping Up Appearances" reference which, considering the context of this website, would be odd but, considering the usual wide-ranging content, not surprising. :)
2007-01-24 16:55:49
64.   Jon Weisman
62 - That's priceless.
2007-01-24 16:55:52
65.   Greg Brock
If you're not reading www.firejoemorgan.com you really should be.

How could anyone not read FJM? Most hilarious sports site around. And second only to DT as my favorite baseball site.

2007-01-24 17:02:06
66.   Greg Brock
I should add that I kind of think of The Griddle and Dodger Thoughts as pieces of the same pie, so The Griddle's right there with DT.
2007-01-24 17:03:29
67.   Andrew Shimmin
Colletti gets Vin calling the 4+1 game as bumper music.
2007-01-24 17:07:32
68.   Andrew Shimmin
"He gets on base a lot."

Flanders on Pierre, again.

2007-01-24 17:08:31
69.   Xeifrank
AZSnakePit lists the Shawn Green trade (with the Dodgers) as the 8th worse deal in DBacks history. Would be interesting to see a list of the Dodgers 10 worst deals (trades or signings) over the last 25 years or so.
vr, Xei
2007-01-24 17:09:13
70.   Xeifrank
66. Ok, enough brown nosing. :)
vr, Xei
2007-01-24 17:10:54
71.   Greg Brock
70 I had to get the quick save in there before Bob took umbrage.

Umbrage is bad!

2007-01-24 17:14:06
72.   bhsportsguy
I still say that you may hate the deal but he explains it basically the way I thought it went down.

He was unwilling to go into the season relying on Kemp, Repko, Loney and Anderson (prior to the Gonzalez deal). You can disagree with that mindset but that is what it came down to.

Sounds like Neddy wants to import the Drew schedule for Nomar (which is probably what most think would be the best we could expect anyway).

2007-01-24 17:17:14
73.   Andrew Shimmin
72- That's a good reason to acquire an OF or two. It's a non sequitur to say that it's a good reason for signing Pierre for five year.
2007-01-24 17:20:03
74.   Steve
Hey, look! Ned changed his story (back) on Pierre again! In other news, the sun rose this morning. Experts say it will fall tonight.
2007-01-24 17:20:17
75.   Jim Hitchcock
1 In support of Bob T, Chuck Yeager always named his planes `Glamorous Glennis'. Of course, Yeager has an ego matched only by, say, Gary Sheffield, so it doesn't really count.
2007-01-24 17:20:44
76.   Andrew Shimmin
Now that "gets on base a lot" is clearly not a slip of the tongue, anybody have thoughts on whether it's just marketing, or Colletti really doesn't know what getting on base a lot is?
2007-01-24 17:22:20
77.   Jim Hitchcock
Hey, there you are, Steve! How you doin? Trust the bar went well.

Uh oh. Two legal references in one sentence...

2007-01-24 17:23:19
78.   D4P
I refuse to believe that the demand for Pierre was so high that a 5-year contract was a necessary condition for signing him.
2007-01-24 17:23:21
79.   Steve
Everything's great, Jim. Glad to see you around every once in a while.
2007-01-24 17:23:35
80.   bhsportsguy
74 I always thought that was the story. But I think the back story was if Drew had not opted out, he may have moved to CF, they would have signed some vet for one year and go there.

But as we all know, that did not happen.

Maybe I'm not paying too close attention but if I can say anything about Ned, he is pretty transparent when it comes to the deals he makes. Conservative, yes, absolutely but the reasons why he did it are usually right there for everyone to see.

2007-01-24 17:25:30
81.   regfairfield
76 Well, he does get on base a lot, he did it 260 times last year, while David Ortiz got on base 283 times. Juan Pierre just made a lot more outs.
2007-01-24 17:25:45
82.   Greg Brock
Conservative would be not making any deals. Signing Juan Pierre for five years wasn't conservative. Reckless would be a better word.

I thought The Mustache was conservative too, until somebody steered me right.

2007-01-24 17:27:33
83.   Andrew Shimmin
Colletti lays the groundwork for pulling a Kent with LuGo. "He may be here for more than one year."
2007-01-24 17:27:40
84.   D4P
76
It seems pretty clear that Ned uses "hits" to measure the frequency of "getting on base"
2007-01-24 17:28:41
85.   Jim Hitchcock
79 I'm still in Luddite mode since I broke my laptop screen off, and my only internet choice here in N Nevada at present would be dial up. Not gonna go that route. Sure did miss hanging out with you guys during the games last year, though.

Not to mention that the dang Giants are the televised team up here. such sacrifice!

2007-01-24 17:29:10
86.   Andrew Shimmin
81- Yes, but on base as a counting stat would still be either a marketing ploy, or dumb.
2007-01-24 17:29:21
87.   bhsportsguy
76 I think its how you measure a lot, getting on base over 230 times a year is a lot but not when you measure that against the number of plate appearances he gets.
2007-01-24 17:32:20
88.   D4P
86
"marketing ploy" seems to imply that Ned knowingly, intentionally, made a bad deal, then had to "sell" it to the public. That doesn't really make sense.

I'm going with "dumb".

2007-01-24 17:36:29
89.   Andrew Shimmin
88- Marketing comes after. He could have knowingly made a deal he wasn't thrilled with, because he got scared that he'd be left with Repko in CF. Then tried to sell it, cynically. I don't think he's trying to wreck the team.
2007-01-24 17:44:42
90.   D4P
Come to think of it, "marketing ploy" and "dumb" are not mutually exclusive
2007-01-24 17:48:17
91.   Steve
I suspect, like most people who are more spin than substance, his story depends on who he's talking to.
2007-01-24 18:25:56
92.   D4P
New to Dodger Talking Points: "Younger version"

Gurnick: General manager Ned Colletti's reaction was to replace Kenny Lofton with a younger version, signing free agent Juan Pierre to a five-year, $44 million contract

Steiner: Juan Pierre is a younger version of Kenny Lofton

Lofton career: .299/.372/.423/.795, 79.7% SB%
Pierre career: .303/.350/.377/.727, 73.7 SB%

2007-01-24 18:29:27
93.   Steve
What goes up must come down
Spinnin' wheel got to go round
2007-01-24 18:43:20
94.   Bob Timmermann
Thanks for the obsequiousness while I was out for dinner!

One of the things I thought about on my walk was that words that have the "-our" ending, might lose the "u" when they get a suffix.

Labour - laborious
Humour - humorous

However, looking in a dictionary, that rule can't be applied uniformly and the spelling is all over the place.

humour, humorous, humourless

2007-01-24 18:49:54
95.   D4P
while I was out for dinner

Speaking of which, on a scale ranging from "A little" to "A lot", how would you rank the variation in

1. texture, and
2. flavo(u)r

of your Protein Berry Pizzazzes?

2007-01-24 18:51:55
96.   Bob Timmermann
I didn't have one of those for dinner, but they all seem to taste the same to me.

The fact that you know what I normally order at Jamba Juice is ... disturbing ...

2007-01-24 18:52:49
97.   Bob Timmermann
Too late to put up an NHL All-Star game thread on the Griddle isn't it?

West leads the East 8-5 in the second. It took me a while to find the Versus Network on my TV.

It's channel 267!

2007-01-24 18:54:57
98.   Andrew Shimmin
Which would you rather have: Erstad for one year, or Juan Pierre for five?
2007-01-24 18:55:33
99.   D4P
The fact that you know what I normally order at Jamba Juice is ... disturbing ...

We've blogged about that before.

I find there's quite a bit of variation. Among my last 4, the first 2 were so thick I could barely extract them through the straw. Then the most recent 2 were almost like milk. And the flavor fluctuates quite a bit.

I'd expect more homogeneity.

2007-01-24 18:56:39
100.   Bob Timmermann
But I only buy them at one Jamba Juice. They have strict quality control standards.

But I better order something new the next time.

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2007-01-24 18:58:12
101.   twerp
51 So how about the Cajun version?

Geaux Dodgers...

:) ?

2007-01-24 19:01:57
102.   D4P
But I only buy them at one Jamba Juice

Me too. I'll take you there when you come out for your Carolinas trip.

2007-01-24 19:04:02
103.   Bob Timmermann
That will be part of the special LAX-Portland-Charlotte-LAX plane ticket.
2007-01-24 19:05:16
104.   D4P
LAX-Portland-RDU*-LAX would be more convenient

*Raleigh-Durham

2007-01-24 19:21:59
105.   gpellamjr
Hey, SamDC, am I right that the Columbus Clippers are no affiliated with the Nats? I've been thinking about going to a lot of games this year. Any exciting kids I should look out for?
2007-01-24 19:23:41
106.   Bob Timmermann
The Nats don't have any exciting kids in the minors. They barely have exciting kids in the majors.

http://www.clippersbaseball.com/

2007-01-24 19:27:01
107.   Greg Brock
106 They have Ryan Church, who will be a fantastic coat rack yet again this year.

D4P knows what kind of Jamba Juice Bob gets. I need to get him to update my files for me...

2007-01-24 19:32:51
108.   Andrew Shimmin
Hey! They have a couple with exciting names. Like Zechry Zinicola (I wouldn't guess he'd start the year in AAA, but he might make it, eventually). And Larry Broadway.
2007-01-24 19:34:19
109.   Andrew Shimmin
Also, I think Chico and Mock, if they never make it as pitchers, should try teaming up to fight crime.
2007-01-24 19:37:58
110.   D4P
D4P knows what kind of Jamba Juice Bob gets

See comments 214, 222, and 225

http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/353856.html

2007-01-24 20:08:53
111.   berkowit28
22 People have been telling Brett Favre that his name was misspelled (or mispronounced) forever. And they're right!

Favre is a very common French Canadian (and not obscure French French) name, pronounced as it's written.

So presumably Brett pronounces it some other, Americanized, or illiterate, way? ("r" before "v"?) I guess that's his privilege. Big deal.

2007-01-24 20:11:06
112.   Bob Timmermann
111
And it made for a good joke at the end of "There's Something About Mary"
2007-01-24 20:15:52
113.   Sam DC
105 Clippers are newly affiliated with the Nats and, indeed, won't have any real "prospects" at that level this year.

That said, the games will probably be cheap and fun.

These guys do a real good job and will have tons of Clippers info up once the rosters get sorted out through Spring Training.

http://www.farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/

2007-01-24 20:24:06
114.   Disabled List
69 AZSnakePit lists the Shawn Green trade (with the Dodgers) as the 8th worse deal in DBacks history. Would be interesting to see a list of the Dodgers 10 worst deals (trades or signings) over the last 25 years or so.

Off the top of my head:

1. D4P
2. The Piazza Trade
3. Konerko for Jeff Shaw
4. Signing Darryl
5. Signing Driefort
6. Not signing Vlad
7. Sheffield for Brian Jordan and FTOG
8. Signing Kevin Brown
9. Victor Diaz and Jose Diaz for Jeromy Burnitz
10. The Tampa Bay panic trades of 2006 (Hendrickson, Hall, Lugo)

I'm sure I'm forgetting some...

2007-01-24 20:29:56
115.   Greg Brock
I'll resist the D4P joke...must...resist...

Actually, that's a really good list Disabled, er, List. I'm tempted to move Vlad higher up a spot or two, and looking at that Sheffield trade makes me a sad panda, but it's a really good list.

2007-01-24 20:39:12
116.   trainwreck
1. Hiring Kevin Malone
2007-01-24 20:47:12
117.   D4P
Seems like "Firing Depo" belongs somewhere on the list
2007-01-24 20:52:48
118.   Disabled List
Forgot one: John Tudor for Pedro Guerrero.

Everybody's memories of 1988 are always warm and fuzzy, but Tudor was a stiff in the postseason that year and missed almost all of the following season, while Guerrero nearly won the NL MVP award in 1989 with the Cardinals.

Mike Davis was also a free-agent bust that year. Funny how things work out.

2007-01-24 20:58:27
119.   trainwreck
117
Yeah, I was going to say that, but did not want to start another Depo debate.
2007-01-24 21:32:17
120.   Andrew Shimmin
It's rarely a mistake to fire someone. It's always a mistake to hire somebody who's worse, to replace the firee.

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