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2007-02-11 10:08
by Jon Weisman

Diamond Leung of the Press Enterprise reminds us that the Dodgers' radio agreement with KFWB ends after this season.

The marriage with an all-news station has been bad for the kids since the very beginning, undermining those who want maximum Dodger coverage as well as those who want KFWB's news coverage at any given moment.

The Dodgers absolutely should find a different station for their radio home.

Leung's brief report:

The Dodgers are discussing a new broadcasting contract with KFWB-AM (980) as its current five-year deal with the station ends after this season, but the team could end up choosing another flagship.

"They're talking to everyone," said KLAC-AM (570) general manager Don Martin, adding that at least five stations were talking to the Dodgers. "We're interested. Who wouldn't be?"

Marty Greenspun, the team's executive vice president and chief operating officer, declined comment through a spokesman.

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Update: Maury Brown interviewed Charley Steiner for The Biz of Baseball.

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2007-02-11 10:20:48
1.   Greg Brock
If only there were some sort of radio station dedicated to sporting type activities. Maybe they could broadcast the sporting events, and around said events, they could have on air-personalities discuss the sporting world's top stories.

Maybe even take a phone call or two from regular folks out there. I'm gonna get the ball rolling on this.

2007-02-11 10:25:05
2.   briano
This again is a no-brainer. The Dodgers either need to set up their own station (24 hours of Dodger "stuff", replays, classic games, et al.). Or go to 570 KLAC. The Dodgers and Lakers? Great marriage.
However, I like the first suggestion best. The Dodgers have so much in their archives. Could you imagine the fun of hearing classic games and old interviews 24/7?
2007-02-11 10:26:33
3.   jdm025
Does anyone know if the Dodgers are planning some sort of station for their own games and content a la the Angels, Red Sox, and Yankees? I seems to me there is enough of an audience amongst the 15 million or so residents to keep about 2-400,000 interested at work and in the car...
2007-02-11 10:27:10
4.   Bob Timmermann
The problem with sharing a station with the Lakers is the season overlap. When the Angels were on KLAC in 2002, I believe their playoff games were bumped for Lakers games.

I don't know if I want to see the Frank McCourt/Dr. Jerry Buss Celebrity Death Match.

2007-02-11 10:27:15
5.   jdm025
2
I guess I posted about a minute too late...
2007-02-11 10:28:28
6.   jdm025
Maybe a better marriage would be AM 710. Playoff issues haven't been much of an issue in the past with the Clippers.
2007-02-11 10:29:10
7.   Bob Timmermann
Do 2 and 3 mean that you want a radio station that is all Dodgers, all the time? 24/7 Dodgers. In other words, a Radio Dodgers propaganda channel?

Even in the winter?

I need to see the business plan for that enterprise.

2007-02-11 10:41:24
8.   Greg Brock
Step 1: Start all-Dodgers radio station.
Step 2: ????????
Step 3: Profit.
2007-02-11 10:44:32
9.   bhsportsguy
6 I remember when the Dodgers were on KABC and longtime talk show host Michael Jackson used to dread March because they would preempt his show for the ST games.

Locally, sports teams are now covered by 4 stations, KLAC 570 covers the Lakers and UCLA Basketball and Football. They also have 17 hours of local radio sportstalk during the week. KSPN 710 covers the Clippers, the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, and USC Basketball and Football. KTLK 1150 (which is affiliated with 570) covers the LA Kings and KFWB 980 has the Dodgers.

KLAC will move UCLA games to 1150 if there is a conflict with Laker broadcasts. KSPN did move some Angel games when it conflicted with USC football.

On the one hand, being part of Sports Radio station would probably mean better coverage, more Dodgertalk, etc. I think KSPN would be better only because the only time they would move a game would be during USC football season, while KLAC would always move it, ironically back to 1150, for Laker games.

2007-02-11 10:54:25
10.   Bob Timmermann
8
This is why you're a history teacher and not an economics or business teacher.
2007-02-11 10:56:35
11.   bhsportsguy
I do think that one major problem with Sportstalk in Los Angeles is the lack of an NFL team here (No USC jokes, please). NFL football is the most popular sport and without it, nothing really drives the average sports fan on a consistent basis.

What you are left with is the baseball, the NBA, USC and UCLA, and then the national sports scene. Also, LA is not homer town in the sense where no one wants to hear someone talk about who should pitch for the Dodgers in the 7th inning on a daily basis. There is only one Vic the Brick and most times one is too much.

2007-02-11 11:04:16
12.   Bob Timmermann
I don't know if is coincidental, but CBS is using some Police songs as the musical lead outs on commercial breaks during the college basketball game they're showing.

And CBS is showing the Grammys.

And the Police will be the opening act.

Product placement?

2007-02-11 11:14:01
13.   Greg Brock
Now that it appears Bernie Williams is done, let me say this: If Bernie Williams makes the Hall of Fame, so help me Choi, I will climb a clock tower and take aim.

You've all been warned.

2007-02-11 11:15:06
14.   Bob Timmermann
13
He won't make it.

Get down off the tower. Don Mattingly hasn't come close.

2007-02-11 11:37:26
15.   ToyCannon
Bernie was a heck of a player for a number of years. A career adjusted EQA of 302 with 4 years over 320 with a high of 341. 8 times with a WARP over 8 with a high of 11.2. Career OBP of 382 with a high of 441. 4 years with an OPS over 950 for a CF. Hats off to Bernie for one heck of a career.
Mattingly and Bernie have the exact same adjusted EQA of 302. Bernie's OBP was higher by 30 points and his slugging was the same. From a CF. If he's not HOF worthy he should still be part of any discussion. Were talking Centerfielders.
2007-02-11 11:44:00
16.   ToyCannon
6
Low blow. At least when we go to the postseason we actually win a series and some games compared to the Dodgers. One postseason victory in almost 20 years. Hard to be an arrogant Dodger fan with that record.
2007-02-11 11:45:15
17.   Greg Brock
I like Bernie Williams. He seems like a truly nice guy, a fine basballer, and a really good guitarist. If he makes the Hall of Fame, it will be because he was a New York Yankee. Reggie Smith is every bit as worthy. Ellis Burks is comparable. Centerfielders hit these days.
2007-02-11 11:50:55
18.   Bob Timmermann
Grady Little would have fouled Tim Thomas before he could shoot the three-pointer!
2007-02-11 12:00:39
19.   ToyCannon
Other then Beltran I can't think of a current CF who hit like Bernie did in his heyday. The only current CF projected to have a > 950 OPS this season is Beltran. Bernie did it 4 times. He combined excellent OB skills with excellent power. Hard to find both these days.

Burks has an adusted EQA of 294, eight points below Bernie. He had one WARP season above 8 because he was hurt so much. Nice player but not in Bernie's class. He is a good match for Jim Rice.
Reggie Smith does match the 302 EQA of Bernie. Did it as a corner outfielder but with great defense. He would get my vote long before Jim Rice would get my vote.
Dwight Evans was a better player then Jim Rice. Not saying any of these are HOF but if I had to put them in order it would be
Bernie
Dwight
Reggie
Burks
Rice

2007-02-11 12:04:12
20.   Greg Brock
19 Definitely, and I agree with your list. But Bernie was a below average CF who turned into a terrible CF with a bad arm that turned into a ridiculously bad arm. He probably shouldn't have been a centerfielder in the first place. But he did play the position, so I guess that works for him. He's a first ballot inductee into the Hall of Very Good, along with the rest of the players on your list.
2007-02-11 12:09:01
21.   Bob Timmermann
Worse set of outfield arms in the NL West:

Dodgers:
Gonzalez
Pierre
Ethier

Giants:
Bonds
Roberts
Winn

Discuss

2007-02-11 12:11:28
22.   ToyCannon
I think his defense was so bad at the end that we forget he was okay in the beginning. I don't have Dewan's book in front of me but rate2 shows him with a career 97 with 5 years (all early) over 100.
I remember his arm always being bad but I don't remember his defense as being bad when he was at the top of his game.
I think you throw in his postseason performance and his world championships and I wouldn't be surprised if he does get in and I wouldn't be upset either. If Jim Rice makes it over the other guys who got no support at all I'll join you in the watchtower.
2007-02-11 12:14:27
23.   ToyCannon
21
Wow that is bad. On the plus side we can replace LuGo with Kemp and we'll benefit on both sides of the diamond. If they replace Bonds with whoever the the hole they dig offensively will be bigger then anything they can make up defensively.

I think Ethier has the only average arm. If Bullethead could play against himself he might run himself into 5 to 10 more doubles.

2007-02-11 12:16:00
24.   Greg Brock
Cribbing from FJM, Bernie's career FRAA is -50. The four years he won the GG, he had a combined -11 FRAA. And I don't like rate2 at all. Not to say that that it doesn't have value, or that your argument is indefensible, or that I can't be wrong and it's a wonderful stat, but I just don't place a lot of value in rate2.
2007-02-11 12:18:03
25.   regfairfield
23 While I never worried about Ethier's arm last season, I figure that if he had the arm to play right field, he would have been there already.

I'm going to vote for the Dodgers, since a players arm has to be really good or bad to make a difference, and I don't think the Giants have any players like that.

2007-02-11 12:42:29
26.   Bob Timmermann
24
If you were wrong, the fabric of the universe would be torn apart.
2007-02-11 12:46:32
27.   D4P
the fabric of the universe would be torn apart

I thought that happened the other night when I "got it" and Andrew didn't understand some The Office moment...

2007-02-11 12:49:33
28.   Greg Brock
26 The fabric of the universe was torn apart when Elton John sung a song with Eminem.

Everybody knows that.

2007-02-11 13:06:21
29.   trainwreck
lol Norbit made $33.7 million this weekend.
2007-02-11 13:10:43
30.   Greg Brock
Holy Smokes, if you head over to Rotten Tomatoes, the top 5 box office movies are rated slightly better than Coke II and laryngitis.
2007-02-11 13:13:00
31.   Andrew Shimmin
Nate, or any other DTer in school, what's the matter with white college kids, these days? Have the bacchanals gotten boring? This is the fourth or fifth time this year something like this has shown up on Drudge.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070211/D8N7A0V80.html

2007-02-11 13:17:14
32.   trainwreck
Girls just dress up in very revealing clothing in Santa Barbara.
2007-02-11 13:17:27
33.   D4P
31
The surprising thing to me about that kind of stuff (and school shootings, etc.) is not that it happens as often as it does, but that it doesn't happen more often.
2007-02-11 13:20:53
34.   trainwreck
I don't know if that would ever happen at a UC. The students love their political correctness.
2007-02-11 13:30:04
35.   Andrew Shimmin
33- You don't think this is a new thing? School shootings I get (there's lots of people that need killing), but this I really don't. How does the conversation even go? The Smoking Gun had pictures of the one in Texas, and there was some girl dressed as Aunt Jemima. How do you word the invitation to get a white girl (who can't be that dumb; A&M is a good school) to dress as Aunt Jemima?

Anyway, I find it immensely odd.

2007-02-11 13:37:53
36.   D4P
I find it immensely odd

1. Some people like to be outrageous and/or offensive and attract attention.

2. Oh: and some people are stupid.

3. Oh: and there's a lot of crossover between 1 and 2

2007-02-11 13:43:00
37.   das411
31 = Behold the power of the Internets. If anything, events like this probably happen less with our generation than with any previous ones, there is just more evidence (and faster access to it) than ever before.
2007-02-11 13:51:35
38.   Icaros
Blackface, KKK Costumes Criticized

From this headline, I was expecting to read an actual fashion critique.

2007-02-11 14:24:19
39.   Uncle Miltie
Maybe a better marriage would be AM 710. Playoff issues haven't been much of an issue in the past with the Clippers.
Like ToyCannon said, the Clippers have won more playoff series and games than the Dodgers have in the last 15+ years or so.

The most offensive costume I've seen at a party was of a terrorist. Most of the theme parties I have been to were 80s, Toga, and CEOs and Corporate Hoes (my personal favorite).

2007-02-11 14:35:44
40.   Bob Timmermann
34
Back in my day at UCLA, when we had to step over stegosaurus droppings on Bruin Walk, one of the frat houses had a "Tequila Sunrise" party and the members all showed up wearing somberos, bandaliers, and threw tortillas at protestors from MEChA.
2007-02-11 15:07:21
41.   D4P
Woah, never seen Steiner sans facial hair before.
2007-02-11 15:23:27
42.   Bob Timmermann
Steiner was clean shaven most of the second half of the season.

But some of us live in the right part of the country to see Charlie!

2007-02-11 15:31:36
43.   D4P
But some of us live in the right part of the country to see Charlie!

Some guys have all the luck...

2007-02-11 15:36:34
44.   Andrew Shimmin
Is he still cleanly shaved? That's not a good look for him. The beard helps distract from how much face he has. If he's not willing to have a beard, he should find some other way to decorate the piles and piles of face he's got going. Maybe Lowe could hook him up with some puka shells. Or, like, stickers, or something.
2007-02-11 17:02:06
45.   dzzrtRatt
I liked it best when the Dodgers were on KABC. I'm not into all-Sport-talk radio. They didn't have to share it with other sports teams and get into bumping matches. KABC could program some sports talk in the vicinity of Dodger games before and during the season, then shut it down after October. I think the all-Sport-talk environment is not a good one for the Dodgers. It diminishes them, almost taking them down to the level of the Lakers, Kings and other lesser sports entities that are there, let's be honest, only to fill time in between the end of the football season and Opening Day.

Besides, who would be there to complain about being pre-empted by Spring Training games now? Not Michael Jackson, but Bill O'Reilly. The less time that drooling bullhorn is on the radio the better.

2007-02-11 17:12:15
46.   D4P
Bill O'Reilly. The less time that drooling bullhorn is on the radio the better.

Rule 5 violation! Rule 5 violation!

2007-02-11 17:15:18
47.   Andrew Shimmin
Wherever the Dodgers go, I hope the next station runs midnight replays. When Doug McIntyre had the overnights, that would have caused me to hope for a station other than KABC. But the new guy I haven't taken to, so I'm fine with KABC. It's not a great signal, out here, but it's alright. KFI and KNX are the 50Kw clear channels, so, either would be my top choice. KFI's night guy doesn't do anything for me, and while I never figured out what people liked about Art Bell, I really can't guess why anybody would listen to the fake Art Bell. Is KNX back to all news?
2007-02-11 17:17:56
48.   dzzrtRatt
46 Bill O'Reilly isn't a politician. He has no discernable political views from what I can tell, except "I'm always right, you moron."

If I was rooting for the Dodgers to go on KFI to displace Rush Limbaugh, you might have a point.

2007-02-11 17:23:27
49.   Bob Timmermann
Bill O'Reilly advocates that pitchers just throw knuckleballs.
2007-02-11 17:26:12
50.   Andrew Shimmin
48- Oh, now. He's against child abuse. Way against it. Maybe you hate him because you're soft on the issue?
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2007-02-11 17:28:22
51.   D4P
Bill O'Reilly hates southpaws.
2007-02-11 17:31:36
52.   D4P
"Lucky" is back on King of the Hill...!
2007-02-11 17:39:52
53.   trainwreck
Some of us are still hours away from King of the Hill.
2007-02-11 17:41:09
54.   D4P
You've got Steiner, I've got KOTH
2007-02-11 17:43:30
55.   Bob Timmermann
Through the first 13:30 of the second half at Washington, Stanford has scored six points.
2007-02-11 17:44:07
56.   caseybarker
48 What, the Dodgers replace a Nobel peace prize nominee??
2007-02-11 17:48:10
57.   trainwreck
What is Steiner on? I got Huskies beating up on the Cardinal.
2007-02-11 17:51:05
58.   Andrew Shimmin
57- D4P's been stalking Steiner for a few weeks. He's waiting for a time when no women will be traumatized, the he's going to get down to business.
2007-02-11 17:54:02
59.   Gen3Blue
Although I kind of like Charley Stiener, I have to confess that interview with Baseball Biz is about the most boring chunk of verbiage I've seen in quite a while. I fear my crankiness relates to this dead time before spring training. I have never had it this bad, and I think it is because we are getting better each year and I can't wait to see how this year goes. It is due to the good farm and prospects, and I hope we give it a chance!
2007-02-11 17:56:36
60.   trainwreck
It is nice how D4P always waits so no women will be traumatized.
2007-02-11 18:01:03
61.   D4P
No women were traumatized in the typing of this post.
2007-02-11 18:01:10
62.   Bob Timmermann
Pac-10 standings
1) UCLA
2) Washington State
3) USC
4) Oregon
5) Arizona
6) Stanford
7) Washington
8) Cal
9) Oregon State
10) Arizona State

Coming up this week:
Washington State at Washington
L.A. schools at Arizona schools
Oregon schools at Bay Area schools

Plus Washington plays at Pittsburgh Saturday.

2007-02-11 18:07:42
63.   D4P
Why "L.A." but not "U.C.L.A."?
2007-02-11 18:12:18
64.   Marty
Anybody notice the piece on irony in the Times' opinion section today? Not bad.
2007-02-11 18:13:07
65.   Sam DC
So, this morning revved me up and I tivo'd The Police, which I just watched post-bedtime.

Wanna short report, or No Spoilers?

2007-02-11 18:15:29
66.   Andrew Shimmin
64- The Times has figured out how to defeat bugmenot. So I've stopped reading it altogether. That isn't your doing, is it?
2007-02-11 18:15:34
67.   trainwreck
Let me guess they played Don't Stand So Close To Me.
2007-02-11 18:17:14
68.   Marty
No, right now all web technical aspects are controlled out of Chicago. But I'm going to have more to do with the web site soon I think.
2007-02-11 18:19:52
69.   Sam DC
67: No.
2007-02-11 18:23:51
70.   Greg Brock
Did they play Synchronicity II?
Every Breath you Take?

Did they, at the very least, sound decent?

2007-02-11 18:25:38
71.   D4P
Did Sting play the lute?
2007-02-11 18:32:12
72.   Sam DC
Report below, can't imagine anyone really cares re spoilers but hopefully this note is warning enough.

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Only played one song - Roxanne.

Of course that's a great song, and Outlandos is maybe their purest Rock n' Roll album, but their sound did get richer over the course of their albums and I think they'd have done well to play something a little more textured. Really, could the (um, er, generally dull) Grammys really not spare room for a second song?

It was just the three of them on stage -- not especially surpised by that but a lot of these fogeys do add some younger players/soungers in the shadows. Of course, who knows what's going on in the tubes/offstage.

It was good. They extended the song and it definitely rocked; the crowd of fabulous people was loud but not necessarily dancing. Since this was Staples, was there a big "regular people" filling hte arena but off camera?

I don't know what Stewart Copeland has been doing all these years, but it really strikes me as impressive to be able to build back up the kind of skill it takes to drum Police songs after a long hiatus (and 30 years of aging). I mean, what he has to do is just physically light years beyond the jobs of Summers and Sumner. And Sumner of course has been fully active all this time. (Where has Copeland been since Rumblefish and The Ryhthmatist?) He seemed pretty sharp to me, but again real hard to tell and especially on a straightforward Rocker like Roxanne.

In the end, whole episode has happily reminded of how great the Police were. I am sad all my Police tapes/CDs were stolen when house was robbed a while back.

2007-02-11 18:47:20
73.   trainwreck
Copeland was in the New Doors or whatever they called it.
2007-02-11 18:57:38
74.   Bob Timmermann
63
Two letter initials have periods. Three or more do not.

The D.A. worked with the FBI and DOJ.

2007-02-11 18:58:34
75.   D4P
74
Ahh, so.
2007-02-11 19:08:04
76.   das411
I wonder if Sam has seen these yet:

http://tinyurl.com/2aeds5

2007-02-11 19:31:17
77.   Andrew Shimmin
I have a quibble with the Times' irony column. is, "U.S. Border Patrol uniforms are manufactured in Mexico," really ironic? If Pat Buchanan's suits were made in Mexico, that'd be ironic. But I'm not sure the Border Patrol's uniforms being hecho en México counts.
2007-02-11 19:32:07
78.   Andrew Shimmin
Link to the piece:

http://tinyurl.com/28u8tr

2007-02-11 19:49:45
79.   dzzrtRatt
Copeland was the reason to listen to the Police. Sting was barely tolerable then, not even remotely tolerable now. But Copeland made Sting's same-y songs sound different from each other based on his ability to devise incredible drum patterns.

The fact that Sting was every college-educated woman's fantasy husband doesn't help. I hope to God he's too old for Gen-Y.

2007-02-11 19:56:59
80.   trainwreck
We of Gen-Y take Phil Collins over Sting.
2007-02-11 20:02:22
81.   Bob Timmermann
Irony would be if the U.S Border Patrol were made up of illegal immigrants.

The Border Patrol's job isn't to keep track of merchandise coming across the border.

2007-02-11 20:06:17
82.   Greg Brock
Well, that was cool, in a "didn't play the song I wanted and only played on song" kind of way.

Copeland is still a great drummer.

2007-02-11 20:07:08
83.   Andrew Shimmin
81- Will you co-sign my letter of complaint to the editor? I'm going to complain about having to use a legitimate account to read the thing, in the same letter, so maybe you won't want in. You could just write a concurring opinion.
2007-02-11 20:16:07
84.   ToyCannon
I'm just guessing but methinks Sam might be a big Police fan.

Dixie Chicks currently playing. Is it UnDT to state that I dig the Dixie Chicks? The older I get the more country I get. I guess I'm just preparing myself for retiring to Arkansas.

2007-02-11 20:20:12
85.   trainwreck
This Simpsons episode is basically lets see what Bart would be like if he ever actuall aged and hit puberty.
2007-02-11 20:20:46
86.   trainwreck
*actually
2007-02-11 20:22:19
87.   Andrew Shimmin
84- I know Linkmeister loved their new album. I've never taken to them (with the exception of some Lyle Lovett, I don't own a country album recorded after I was born) but there's nothing wrong with country music.
2007-02-11 20:23:37
88.   trainwreck
Other than everything.
2007-02-11 20:24:59
89.   D4P
The Dixie Chicks' new album is great.
2007-02-11 20:26:18
90.   Brendan
Gee Sam you might have thrown into your spoiler that the Police come on immediately as the show starts and if you tune in 3 minutes into the show you can see them take their bows(no I didn't tivo either).

Andrew I read the same article on irony and thought it was curious but I gave him the benefit of the doubt because I couldn't imagine being wrong with that much certainty. i'll sign on to the letter.

2007-02-11 20:27:52
91.   Andrew Shimmin
There's something wrong with bad country music; that's a given. But it's not the style that's the problem, it's the practitioner. Most music is bad; that's true for every style, of every era, always.
2007-02-11 20:29:08
92.   Marty
I don't own a country album recorded after I was born

Andrew, buy and listen to all the Hank Williams you can find.

2007-02-11 20:29:56
93.   Andrew Shimmin
90- Rock on.
2007-02-11 20:38:36
94.   Steve
It's not really news that the LA Times opinion page has little grasp of irony.
2007-02-11 20:52:17
95.   Bob Timmermann
I mentioned in two different threads that the Police were the opening act.
2007-02-11 21:32:27
96.   D4P
No doubt everyone is busy planning their respective Valentine's Days. My planning is done, and includes:

1. Drinking a bottle of wine
2. Eating a box of chocolates
3. Watching our Valentine movies (i.e. "Don Juan de Marco" and "Down With Love")

Note: I'll be engaging in activities 1-3 with my wife

2007-02-11 21:43:29
97.   Bob Timmermann
96
But I had those activities planned with your wife too!
2007-02-11 21:47:58
98.   Greg Brock
"Don Juan de Marco" and "Down With Love"

Good Grief.

2007-02-11 21:51:30
99.   D4P
97
Well, she does have a weakness for nerds...
2007-02-11 21:56:28
100.   D4P
Good Grief

What, you prefer "Say Anything"?

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2007-02-11 21:58:54
101.   ToyCannon
We'll be going to the Clipper game and she won't be expecting flowers, chocolates or jewels which is why I married her.
2007-02-11 22:06:12
102.   D4P
Was anyone else troubled by the ending of tonight's King of the Hill episode?
2007-02-11 22:08:06
103.   Greg Brock
102 I watched the episode, but flipped to the news and missed the very end. What happened to the snake?
2007-02-11 22:10:15
104.   Icaros
"There is such a thing as good grief. Just ask Charlie Brown."
2007-02-11 22:12:16
105.   D4P
What happened to the snake?

Dale and the two county animal control workers beat it to death. We saw them grab its tail, then saw their silhouettes raising their various weapons and swinging them down onto the snake.

It was utterly gratuitous, and out of character for the show, in my opinion. My wife and I were both shocked and dismayed. Later, Hank told Bobby that they released "Josh" on a farm. From what I could tell, there was no compelling reason why they couldn't actually have done so instead of beating it to death.

It was weird. I didn't like it.

2007-02-11 22:14:46
106.   Icaros
105

If Barry White were still alive, he could've saved that snake.

2007-02-11 22:17:25
107.   Greg Brock