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Postgame Ughress
2007-04-09 17:04
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

On the phone with my brother and father right now - both with 20-plus years of experience negotiating Dodger Stadium traffic. They are still in the stadium parking lot, having moved "a foot and a half in 35 minutes." My brother calls it "truly a disaster" and "the worst I've seen it," even accounting for it being Opening Day.

The parking consultants, he says, are standing around and occasionally shrugging.

* * *

If you have nothing better to do, follow Edwin Jackson's first start of the year.

Comments (196)
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2007-04-09 17:15:48
1.   Greg S
Why did it seem so inevitable that this would be the result of their "improved" system? As a friend of mine said this morning, why didn't the Dodges just say we're charging $15 this year, period. Make whatever changes you think will help but don't insult us by saying you're going to fix the parking situation and the extra money is to help do so.
2007-04-09 17:20:40
2.   FirstMohican
Edwin looks good so far. Got squeezed on at least one 96 mph fastball.

Regarding parking, I'll ride my bike or walk from Sunset.

2007-04-09 17:21:49
3.   FirstMohican
I feel like I kinda got tricked into raising my hand when asked if I had nothing better to do.
2007-04-09 17:30:19
4.   Humma Kavula
The Drays off to an early lead -- good for Mr. Jackson.
2007-04-09 17:31:57
5.   natepurcell
my housemate: what are you doing?

me: watching the devil rays game.

my housemate: why? you are a Dodgers fan

me: because edwin jackson is pitching.

my housemate: who?

me: He was one of my favorite prospects and the dodgers traded him and i think it was a bad move and i think he will be good.

my housemate: get a life.

2007-04-09 17:35:09
6.   trainwreck
I am also a person who still believes in Edwin and I am hoping he has a good season this year.
2007-04-09 17:35:13
7.   Jon Weisman
5 - Hey, he's the one with enough time to ask you what you're doing. I say, he needs to get the life!
2007-04-09 17:35:45
8.   trainwreck
He is throwing 95 mph right now.
2007-04-09 17:36:39
9.   scareduck
7 - heh.

Jackson has 15 pitches through his first inning. Good so far...

2007-04-09 17:38:19
10.   scareduck
Sammy had a decent enough spring, but he doesn't look that different from what I saw on the Orioles. He surely shouldn't be hitting this high in the Rangers' lineup.
2007-04-09 17:39:18
11.   scareduck
Yow. Jackson has used only (around) half the pitches McCarthy has through two. Nice.
2007-04-09 17:45:04
12.   Greg S
And how wrong is it that Jon's father and brother went to opening day while jon, who's voice is becoming one of the most important on the subject of the Dodgers- all based on his being a fan, didn't?
2007-04-09 17:45:11
13.   D4P
5
At least you're watching a major league game this time...
2007-04-09 17:49:37
14.   goblue1
I came here for some Kemp/Schmidt updates and everyone is talking about Edwin Jackson.

Bizzarre!

2007-04-09 17:50:46
15.   Jon Weisman
12 - I knew this job was dangerous when I took it, Fred.
2007-04-09 17:51:18
16.   Jon Weisman
14 - There were some Kemp/Schmidt updates in the previous thread.
2007-04-09 17:51:37
17.   D4P
I'm having a hard time keeping all the DRays trades straight.

Did Ned trade Jackson and Chuck Tiffany for Danys Baez...?

2007-04-09 17:52:25
18.   trainwreck
17
yes
2007-04-09 17:53:57
19.   D4P
18
Wow, that's ridiculous all over again.
2007-04-09 17:54:04
20.   Jon Weisman
17 - And Lance Carter!
2007-04-09 17:55:34
21.   trainwreck
I remembered there was someone else who stunk. Totally forgot Carter, which is a good thing.
2007-04-09 17:55:44
22.   D4P
20
I forgot the All-Star!
2007-04-09 17:57:26
23.   underdog
Ugh.

Well, it's not like the current team is dying for Edwin Jackson, but, golly, we sure should have gotten more for him than that. A hitter from the D-Rays would have been more okay - y'know, maybe Jackson involved in a trade for Carl Crawford or somebody.

What a heist. I guess Baez looked good at the time?

Sigh.

2007-04-09 17:57:51
24.   D4P
Jackson has reached at least 97 on the Gameday gun.
2007-04-09 17:58:08
25.   Greg S
I have a question that I would get answered by DirecTv if I could- but I can't.
When FSN Prime Ticket says they are broadcasting a Dodger game in HD (as they did yesterday), they are not doing so on the same channel. So where, if anywhere, can this be found?
2007-04-09 18:00:51
26.   Greg Brock
Bob, since the conversation in the last thread got LAT'd, I wasn't saying that Bill Plaschke defended the signing of Juan Pierre. I meant that he didn't really say anything about it, which was very telling for a man who has tended toward complimenting The Mustache whenever possible, and that his silence on the subject was deafening. Not commenting on the signing was, to me, a condemnation, since the man wastes no time in applauding everything The Mustache does.

My basic point was that criticism of Pierre has begun early, and that is a result of bloggers, not mainstream journalists. I think more than a few Dodger Thoughts posters probably agree. When Josh Rawitch makes it a point to defend Pierre, when Bill Shaikin writes a Saturday article on statistical analysis...These things reflect the growing power of the Philosopher King and others. That was my only point.

Jon, just make sure to use your powers for good, not evil. Well, 75% good, 25% evil.

2007-04-09 18:02:16
27.   scareduck
Has anyone read of the McCourts or anyone in the Dodgers organization apologizing for the handicapped people with placards/license plates being denied access to those spots?
2007-04-09 18:02:29
28.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Re: Parking.
So, which VP takes the fall for an infrastructure-related disaster this time?
It wasn't too many years ago the team redid the lower-deck seats, only to find out on Opening Day that many fans now had obstructed views. That VP was canned - and rather soon after, IIRC.
2007-04-09 18:03:16
29.   underdog
Speaking of Jackson, in case anyone missed Tony Jackson's update, this is all good:

"Matt Kemp is day to day with a bruised right shoulder, which is a lot better than being out four to six weeks with a dislocated one. He wasn't going to start tomorrow night anyway. Jason Schmidt is fine (dehydration) and won't miss a start. But the biggest news of the day is that Rafael Furcal is targeted to return on Friday night against the Friars. He'll begin a two-day rehab assignment for single-A Inland Empire at Rancho Cucamonga tomorrow. He'll DH tomorrow and play SS Wed., then be re-evaluated."

{Dehydration?}

2007-04-09 18:04:31
30.   ddog
Just got back from opening day. We arrived about 90 minutes early through the Sunset gate. There was an unusual backup waiting to get through the gates into the park, all the way back to Sunset, but once we got into the parking lot things seemed to be pretty organized as they led us into Lot 1. We did hear rumors of nightmarish traffic jams later on, and two of of our late-arriving friends abandoned their cars in empty lots many blocks away from the park. I'm not sure if it was worse than in previous years, but there was no anecdotal evidence of it being any better than usual. After the game, exiting out of Lot 1 was again no different than in past seasons. There were three attendants standing around the single exit who did nothing more than stare off into space rather than prevent pedestrians from blocking the exit. However this at least was no worse than in previous years where there were no attendants.
2007-04-09 18:04:41
31.   Jon Weisman
26 - I think Bob determined that Plaschke was on leave during this time, working on a book project.
2007-04-09 18:04:52
32.   k0b3
i couldn't see the game today but how did Schmidt look while he was in there? throwing 86 again? Also now...this offense is TRULY worrying me
2007-04-09 18:05:04
33.   Jon Weisman
29 - Thanks.
2007-04-09 18:05:13
34.   D4P
I find myself rooting for the DRays this year
2007-04-09 18:05:57
35.   Jon Weisman
32 - During the 45 minutes I saw, I thought he had good movement but occasionally missed over the plate and was then vulnerable.
2007-04-09 18:06:32
36.   D4P
30
So I guess the $5 parking increase just goes directly to Juan Pierre...?
2007-04-09 18:08:55
37.   Greg Brock
31 I understand that, but I doubt it would prevent Plaschke from weighing in on a subject if, say, JD Drew opted out of his contract during his leave.

I'm pretty sure the man would find time to comment on that.

2007-04-09 18:09:15
38.   k0b3
35 - thanks jon
36 - don't even get me started with Pierre or Gonzo (who reverted to his old self today it seems)
2007-04-09 18:15:48
39.   bhsportsguy
I got to West L.A. in about an hour using surface streets so really no difference, I do think that you have a lot of cars plus quite frankly, numerous people drinking.

I will say this, if you get to the ballpark early enough and are fortunate to park by an exit, then you are going to get out.

Not sure if opening day, a playoff game or a bobblehead give away are going to good examples of this but no complaints from me about the parking.

Now about the game... :)

2007-04-09 18:16:19
40.   D4P
Why is Sammy Sosa in a starting lineup...?
2007-04-09 18:17:28
41.   scareduck
Jackson walks Nelson Cruz. This could get ugly, but given the Rangers' light-hitting offense this year, maybe not.
2007-04-09 18:18:22
42.   gpellamjr
34 The 90 students in my Later Roman Empire class seemed unimpressed by my prediction that TB will win a world series by 2010. Maybe they'll be more impressed when the average grade on the midterm is 65.
2007-04-09 18:19:17
43.   D4P
Jackson's last 7 pitches were clocked at 97, 95, 96, 96, 95, 96, 96
2007-04-09 18:19:48
44.   D4P
42
Heh heh. That'll learn'em.
2007-04-09 18:20:27
45.   gpellamjr
44 They refuse to learn, that's the problem.
2007-04-09 18:32:21
46.   bhsportsguy
Observations from the ballpark.

Took only a 1/2 inning, actually 2 outs to get hot dogs, you will probably hear about the Dodgers running out of beer (at least on the reserved level, though they had bottles.)

Parking, I addressed already.

Schmidt, early in the game he was throwing 81-82 on the ballpark gun, later he hit 88-89 most of the time. Aside from Atkins, the balls hit in the 4th were to right field and again, don't know if Kemp should have caught that ball for the double.

A lot of ballparks have that screen that has advertising on the outfield wall, not saying it isn't a hazard but I think the old warning track was more of nuisance.

My hunch is that the Rudy Seanez experience may be the first to end since Grady has shown that he will lose patience with a reliever faster than with almost any other position.

No one outside of Schmidt had good swings against Francis, Martinez's double had to be a mistake for him to pull it down the line, if the LF doesn't touch it, it is probably a ground rule double.

2007-04-09 18:32:23
47.   fordprefect
The last time we went to a game the attendants made me take my pack all the way back to my car, making me miss the first inning and a half . After the game it took us an hour and a half to get out of the parking lot. McCourt supposedly runs a parking lot business, right?
2007-04-09 18:32:56
48.   D4P
45
Those who fail history classes are bound to repeat them
2007-04-09 18:33:41
49.   bhsportsguy
Just a thought on Edwin, again, does it matter if he hits 100 on the gun if guys are still able to put the bat on it and if all it ends up doing is build up pitch counts?
2007-04-09 18:35:02
50.   D4P
49
Well, I thought we got rid of him primarily because he had lost the speed on his fastball
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2007-04-09 18:39:40
51.   subclub
Well, my parking experience was by far the worst I've ever seen. I ended up in lot 10. Rushed directly to the car after the last out, then sat in the car for over an hour without moving an inch. I only escaped because some other frustrated parkers moved the cones that were blocking off the lot. Getting out of the park was extremely frustrating and it already has me wanting to avoid going to see games this year, which is pretty sad.
2007-04-09 18:39:45
52.   Rob M
I got right out of the stadium after the game with no problem, but getting to the Stadium was kinda bad.

My office is literally 2 miles from the Stadium (in Atwater) so I plan on riding my bike to the game a few times this year.

2007-04-09 18:41:58
53.   D4P
Juan Pierre on pace to steal 46 bases this year...!
2007-04-09 18:43:42
54.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
My hunch is that the Rudy Seanez experience may be the first to end since Grady has shown that he will lose patience with a reliever faster than with almost any other position.
Good observation. Rudy pitched well in a mop-up role, but has bombed in both high(er)-leverage appearances. If Grady can't trust him with a lead or to keep the game close, then what role does he have? The organization has plenty of other pitchers who can fit into the mop-up role, and they all have far greater upside.
2007-04-09 18:46:27
55.   CanuckDodger
49 -- So, you're saying great fastball velocity is irrelevent? A major league hitter can put a bat on a 100 MPH pitch, but he will usually have a harder time doing anything with it than a much slower fastball.

50 -- Jackson's velocity was never really a problem when he was a Dodger, though it dipped a bit when he had some back problems. Jackson struggled a lot with command in his last couple of years with us, but I didn't think that was going to be something he couldn't improve, and obviously he has improved in that area.

2007-04-09 18:46:27
56.   bhsportsguy
As you can see, there is going to be some very subjective views about the parking situation, frankly if you park in a preferred lot, getting out on a crowded day may be more problematic because the emphasis on the GA lots is filling up the lots closer to the exits to get them out faster.

I generally try to get to the games no later than 45 minutes before the first pitch but on games with give aways or other big deals, I try to get their even earlier.

Now that is probably in the minority of people going to games but from what I can tell, this system is going help people like me because we are going to end up parking near the exits.

If you are getting to the game within 15 minutes or so, this is where the parking scheme may hurt you. My next game is not going to be good test either since I am going on Sunday but I think the next two nights should be relatively fine.

2007-04-09 18:48:36
57.   bhsportsguy
55 No but Brad Penny led the league with 95 mph plus pitches but he also has problems get into the 6th and 7th innings, that is all I am saying, throwing hard as a starter is great but if all it does is cause guys to extend at bats before doing something, maybe you need to adjust something.
2007-04-09 18:50:58
58.   regfairfield
57 But it's not the velocity that causes that. Barry Zito throws mainly junk and he regularly is near the league lead in pitches per plate appearance.
2007-04-09 18:53:34
59.   D4P
Jackson just hit 98 on his 103rd pitch of the game
2007-04-09 18:55:21
60.   Bob Timmermann
31

Yeah, that's what I meant!

I noticed cars still exiting Dodger Stadium when I left work and passed by around 5:50 pm.

2007-04-09 18:55:39
61.   ryu
My brother and I are going to this Saturday's game against the Padres. I think we'll just park outside of the Stadium and then walk up there, and save $15 and two hours of our time in the process.

We want to see batting practice and hopefully get lucky and get a few autographs. Any tips on how to do that? The game starts at 7:10p. What time should we get to the park?

2007-04-09 18:57:03
62.   Bluebleeder87
Theres nothing like hearing frat guys saying jokes (friendly banter) about Beimel while he worms up in the pen.
2007-04-09 18:57:37
63.   Bluebleeder87
The Dodgers lost but I had a real good time at the Stadium.
2007-04-09 19:01:23
64.   regfairfield
And Shawn Camp ruins Jackson's decent start.
2007-04-09 19:03:30
65.   Robert Fiore
To answer 25's question about Fox games in HD, in my system (Time/Warner Hollywood/Los Angeles) there is a channel dedicated to FSN HD broadcasts, which only broadcasts when there's a game in HD (otherwise a test pattern). In my channel lineup it's 413. There's a schedule at http://msn.foxsports.com/name/HD, at the bottom of the page. According to the schedule, the next games to be broadcast on FSN Prime Ticket HD are the series against the Giants from the 24th through the 26th.
2007-04-09 19:04:53
66.   Vishal
poor e-jax. why'd he get taken out after 85 pitches and with 2 on and 2 out? seems rather unfair, especially since camp let the runs score.
2007-04-09 19:05:41
67.   Vishal
oh, i guess the yahoo pitch count is inaccurate.
2007-04-09 19:07:39
68.   Woody
"A foot and a half in 35 minutes"? I could definitely be wrong (I took Algebra II in 1964), but I think that's 0.000487 miles per hour.
2007-04-09 19:08:51
69.   Vishal
[23] no. he didn't. baez has never "looked good", except maybe when he looks in the mirror. or when his mother looks at him.
2007-04-09 19:09:41
70.   Bob Timmermann
On Extra Innings, I'm watching Arizona-Cincinnati. Thom Brennaman has left Arizona, but now he's doing Reds games.

He is so, so, so awful.

Yet Fox thinks he's good.

2007-04-09 19:09:50
71.   Vishal
though, considering what they've got in their bullpen now, i bet tampa bay misses carter and baez a little.
2007-04-09 19:12:15
72.   Bob Timmermann
The Reds road caps have black bills.

I disapprove.

Strenuously.

2007-04-09 19:13:15
73.   gpellamjr
70 But now he gets to be awful with his dad. How sweet. Brennaman and son being awful together.
2007-04-09 19:13:36
74.   Tangled Up in Blue
The parking situation is not good however the game ended right at the beginning of rush hour which is compounding things. When we left we were forced to take side streets into downtown because getting on to the freeway was basically at a stand still.

Schmidt was throwing 78-81 (the scoreboard was calling them changeups but they weren't) at the start of the game and only hit 88-89 a few times and when he did he had no command of the pitch. Something is not right with him.

2007-04-09 19:17:21
75.   gpellamjr
70/73 Last year I was listening to a game on Reds radio, as I did regularly. On this particular occasion, the Reds were down by one, a runner on first with one out. Adam Dunn was at the plate. The color analyst (whose name I can't remember) asked Brennaman, "Do you bunt here?" Brennaman: "Absolutely!" Dunn strikes out. "And that's why! You could have had a runner on second with two outs, instead it's game over!" For perspective, I believe this was some time before Dunn's game winning grand slam.
2007-04-09 19:18:27
76.   JJ42
61 - They open up the stadium 2 hours before the first pitch and you can enter through the field level entrance in left field. If you get there early enough, you can probably catch some of the pitchers and outfielders shagging balls. They won't sign during BP but may when the Dodger session comes to an end - about an hour and 15 minutes before game time - I was able to get Brad Penny and Eric Gagne that way.

Then your next opportunity will come right before the game, around 6:45 pm. You can hang out by the bullpen and see if anyone signs there - I've seen Broxton and Saito sign - but it's hit or miss. I've seen people have more success hanging out by the Dodger dugout between sections 33 to 37. If Ethier or Nomar starts on Saturday, they will likely sign - it was part of their pre-game ritual last season. Ethier will sign a bunch, talk a bit - he's really fan friendly. Nomar not so much - usually he'll sign for about 15-20 people then go back to the dugout. Other players will come out but it'll be kind of random.

2007-04-09 19:19:05
77.   Bob Timmermann
Lance Carter has two saves in six innings of work for the Orix Buffaloes. He's given up four runs for an ERA of 6.00.
2007-04-09 19:19:18
78.   gpellamjr
75 Hmm... I botched that story. I conflated two statements separated by a few moments. Of course Brennaman's lamentation at the game's being over came after the third out. Whatever the case, I have a hard time taking him seriously.
2007-04-09 19:25:45
79.   Jon Weisman
78 - Your use of the word "conflated" exonerates you of all other crimes.
2007-04-09 19:31:53
80.   Bob Timmermann
On Friday at work, I asked a patron if they were seeking expiation from me.

I later used the word obviate.

I felt really full of it.

2007-04-09 19:37:48
81.   Jon Weisman
Good Wonder Years rerun on Channel, um, 30. The ION network?
2007-04-09 19:39:21
82.   Bob Timmermann
Parking story from the LA Times

http://tinyurl.com/yqybdw

2007-04-09 19:50:32
83.   D4P
Lance Carter has two saves in six innings of work for the Orix Buffaloes. He's given up four runs for an ERA of 6.00.

Weird. Almost makes the "Save" statistic sound meaningless.

Good Wonder Years rerun

My wife never watched The Wonder Years. I think we're gonna watch the series next, after we finish Futurama.

2007-04-09 19:53:36
84.   Sushirabbit
{sarcasm}
So, is Kemp officially not ready?{end sarcasm}

And if Colorado had an outfield like ours, Pierre might have scored 3 runs instead of one.

Also, everytime I saw Francis I kept thinking he looked like Orel Hershiser.

Looked like Atkins knows what David McCarty learned about keeping your hands in.

2007-04-09 19:53:57
85.   D4P
Becky Garcia, of Whittier, and daughter Desiree, 26, had arrived more than an hour and a half early fearing long lines but found the food-gathering fast and easy. Each started with two hot dogs and sodas, and then shared nachos and peanuts. Shortly after Jason Schmidt hit a 402-foot home run in the third inning, they were thinking of going back for another hot dog.

Times staff writer Spencer Weiner contributed to this article.

2007-04-09 19:55:08
86.   KBL
What channel is the Wonder Years rerun on for Dish Network?
2007-04-09 20:07:51
87.   Greg Brock
I hope it's not the episode where Kevin has to decide between Paul and the cool kids, and he pines for Winnie.

That's a tough episode.

2007-04-09 20:09:06
88.   Out in the desert
I just got home from the game. (You can factor in that I live 2 hours away from the stadium.)

I park in a preferred parking lot. Getting in and getting out was about the same as previous opening days. But listening to KFWB on the way home made it sound like most people were having a terrible time.

I did notice that they were parking cars diagonally on many of the stadium "streets." I've never seen that before. Also, as we made our way to the Sunset exit there were three vehicles parked in the center lane of the inner ring. I'm thinking they must have been directed to park there.

A shuttle system linking remote parking could probably be profitable for somebody.

2007-04-09 20:09:55
89.   Greg Brock
I think that's also the episode where Wayne is really mean, and Karen disagrees with her father.

I kid. I love The Wonder Years.

2007-04-09 20:10:20
90.   D4P
Or the one where Wayne makes Kevin's life miserable, and his parents don't care. That one was rough.
2007-04-09 20:11:21
91.   Greg Brock
90 Beat you to it.
2007-04-09 20:12:21
92.   D4P
91
I submitted it much earlier, but the tubes were bogged down.
2007-04-09 20:13:51
93.   Greg Brock
I am really kidding. When Kevin kissed Winnie in the forest after her brother died in Vietnam was one of the memorable television moments of my young life.

Winnie Cooper is a Bruin, and that's a wonderful thing.

2007-04-09 20:17:31
94.   D4P
The Wonder Years followed by Doogie Howser was one of my all-time favorite back-to-backers
2007-04-09 20:19:20
95.   Greg Brock
Somewhere in China, Xeifrank's ears are burning.

His lungs probably aren't having a great time either.

2007-04-09 20:19:25
96.   Bob Timmermann
A shuttle system to Dodger Stadium from a remote lot requires a dedicated entrance and exit and a lane to pick people up. I don't know where that could be shoehorned into the park.
2007-04-09 20:22:11
97.   D4P
Interesting start for Matt Cain
2007-04-09 20:26:41
98.   Greg Brock
Nothing is interesting until there are nine outs to go.

This is not Nam, Smokey. There are rules.

2007-04-09 20:26:47
99.   D4P
The Giants' Pythagorean Record has them winning roughly 27 games this year. Sounds about right.
2007-04-09 20:27:50
100.   Bob Timmermann
Ahh, the optimism of the 1988 offseason:

http://tinyurl.com/2gh953

I was at this game:

http://tinyurl.com/yvo26k

Who's the guy on the right?

http://tinyurl.com/ys92vd

Name that tune:
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics39/00054039.jpg

$15?
http://tinyurl.com/yr7ehz

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2007-04-09 20:29:26
101.   trainwreck
So far my fantasy teams appreciate this Cain outing.
2007-04-09 20:29:52
102.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
97 - Effectively wild.
2007-04-09 20:30:56
103.   trainwreck
He needs more strikeouts though.
2007-04-09 20:32:06
104.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
John McCain sighting at CIN-AZ.
2007-04-09 20:32:32
105.   Greg Brock
They're already talking about the history of Giants interestingness. This thing is gone in the next three batters.
2007-04-09 20:32:36
106.   Super Nintendo Chalmers
Anyone know what cable station's airing "The Wonder Years"?
2007-04-09 20:32:39
107.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
SD announcers doing everything they can to jinx Cain.
2007-04-09 20:39:32
108.   D4P
I will laugh if Cain's interestingness extends for 9 innings, with the Giants being held scoreless
2007-04-09 20:41:58
109.   Greg Brock
We're in the top of the sixth. Not even at the interestingness threshold...Call me after the bottom of the sixth.
2007-04-09 20:43:13
110.   D4P
Cain has 88 pitches already. That does not bode well.
2007-04-09 20:45:48
111.   Sam DC
I hope after 72 we can all agree to call the commenter formerly known as Bob "Demi" from here on out.
2007-04-09 20:48:38
112.   Daniel Zappala
As in demitasse or demi-glaze?

No way Cain finishes this game -- walking too many and 91 pitches through 5.1.

2007-04-09 20:49:41
113.   Greg Brock
Set Condition Alpha...

9 outs till interestingness.

2007-04-09 20:50:10
114.   D4P
Call me after the bottom of the sixth

Brrrrriiiinnnngggg...

2007-04-09 20:51:47
115.   Bob Timmermann
111
I need to Sam to goof off more as he one of the few people who gets my jokes.

Greg Brock would understand more of them, but he's the wrong generation.

No picked up on my allusion to the classic film "Quicksilver" earlier today. Or maybe everybody else was equally appalled b it.

2007-04-09 20:52:31
116.   D4P
115
I tell you what I'm appalled by: your typing in that message.
2007-04-09 20:53:33
117.   Greg Brock
115 I get all of your jokes, Bob.

I got the Quicksilver joke. I was going to make a "Ten speed bicycle trick" joke, but I didn't want to steal your thunder.

2007-04-09 20:55:42
118.   Greg Brock
Trying to sneak a Kevin Bacon/Jaime Gertz joke by Greg Brock is like trying to sneak a pork chop by a dog.

Or something like that.

2007-04-09 20:55:48
119.   Bob Timmermann
I eventually moved away from the bike messengers. One of them looked to be 50 years old. Or maybe he was just one of those guys who was 30 and just hasn't aged well.

I'm guessing that a lot of them don't have health insurance.

2007-04-09 20:57:32
120.   trainwreck
Jaime Gertz is still hot.
2007-04-09 20:57:48
121.   Daniel Zappala
I will never get about 90% of Bob's jokes. I've moved past the inferiority complex he used to give me and settled into contented smugness that I haven't wasted as much time on pop culture.
2007-04-09 20:58:51
122.   D4P
121
Ah, spoken like one of my true minions
2007-04-09 20:59:32
123.   Bob Timmermann
Mike Krukow once won a game where the opposing pitchers combined on a one-hitter:
http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1986/B09070MON1986.htm

Krukow threw a 2-hitter.

2007-04-09 20:59:48
124.   D4P
Wait: Bob tells jokes...?
2007-04-09 21:01:04
125.   Andrew Shimmin
Our long national nightmare is over. No no-no for Cain.
2007-04-09 21:02:26
126.   Greg Brock
Jaime Gertz lost to the broad in "Fletch" in my imaginary 80's hot chick tournament.

It was Catherine Mary Stuart (Last Starfighter) versus Anabeth Gish (Hiding Out/Mystic Pizza) in the finals.

Bye Bye No-No

2007-04-09 21:02:48
127.   D4P
No no-no for Cain

Alas, Cain wasn't able

2007-04-09 21:04:38
128.   Greg Brock
127
People that can't count the days of the resurrection don't get to make biblical jokes.
2007-04-09 21:06:41
129.   Daniel Zappala
128 Who made you God?
2007-04-09 21:07:58
130.   Andrew Shimmin
He is that He is.
2007-04-09 21:09:26
131.   Greg Brock
129 George Burns came to me while I was taking a shower.
2007-04-09 21:09:44
132.   Andrew Shimmin
World Series Hero Geoff Blum breaks up the shut out.
2007-04-09 21:10:39
133.   Greg Brock
"GET OVER THE FENCE! GET OVER THE FENCE!"

So sayeth your completely neutral baseball announcers.

2007-04-09 21:10:44
134.   Bob Timmermann
128
When I was driving back from Emmaus today, I met this guy ...
2007-04-09 21:11:11
135.   Daniel Zappala
I thought he had turned the gig over to Morgan Freeman.
2007-04-09 21:12:32
136.   Greg S
The morons calling the Padres/Giants came just said that Schmidt went on the DL today. Do they know something that I don't? I seriously doubt they know anything that a racoon doesn't.
2007-04-09 21:12:43
137.   dzzrtRatt
Because my friends and I got to the stadium at about 11:30, we were well-positioned for a quick exit, and it still took a good half-hour. Trying to leave Dodger Stadium is like giving birth: Pushing a basketball through a straw.

Amazing sight: The parking "attendents" standing around and watching this chaos, completely passive. I don't know what they're supposed to do. Neither do they.

The Sunset entrance was plugged up, even as early as we arrived, because they blocked a lane for an electronic sign telling employees where to park.

I think Mitt Romney needs to quit his quixotic presidential bid and come back and run the Dodgers.

P.S. the game and the day, the weather, the Schmidt home run -- all good. Could've done without the injuries and the bad defense, but all in all, it was a good day.

2007-04-09 21:13:56
138.   Greg Brock
134 It took me four days to hitch hike from Emmaus...
2007-04-09 21:16:46
139.   Clive Clements
106Ion Television - it used to be Pax, so look for that on your cable lineup. I just discovered that they were showing reruns last week and caught 2 tonight (I'm on the east coast). Should be 10-11p on weeknights.
2007-04-09 21:17:49
140.   Bob Timmermann
136
I assume those are the Padres morons. Krukow and Kuiper haven't said anything about Schmidt.

The Padres have morons of the highest quality working for them.

2007-04-09 21:19:24
141.   Bob Timmermann
138
Counting the camels on the Judea Turnpike...
2007-04-09 21:20:41
142.   D4P
140
Hey, are you that guy who hates the Padres...?
2007-04-09 21:23:04
143.   Greg S
140 Considering their screaming with joy at the slightest positive thing happening to the Padres, I think you're right. As the other Greg pointed out they were literally screaming "GET OVER THE FENCE" on a ball that was both foul and short of the fence. All of that is bad enough but the misinformation on Schmidt is particularly frustrating.
2007-04-09 21:23:36
144.   Bob Timmermann
142
We are legion.

If it's Ted Leitner, he's in the same category as Billy Packer or Digger Phelps.

2007-04-09 21:24:03
145.   Daniel Zappala
I think the Beaufort scale needs to be adjusted to account for an urban environment ... e.g. 30 mph knocks over full trashcans and 40 mph blows my patio table umbrella clear over my house. Right now it's blowing hard enough to make it sound like ocean waves crashing against my deck.
2007-04-09 21:25:41
146.   Bob Timmermann
If it's the TV idiots, it's Matt Vasgersian and Mark Grant.

And Vasgersian's name is bandied about as a possible replacement for Vin Scully.

2007-04-09 21:25:42
147.   Daniel Zappala
I am unable to see the Reds' caps because the Arizona game is blacked out in SLC.
2007-04-09 21:26:56
148.   Greg Brock
144 I always thought Legion was a New Testament demon...

Welcome to Bible Night here on Dodger Thoughts.

2007-04-09 21:27:47
149.   Greg Brock
Yes, it's Matt Vasgersian, who is just terrible.
2007-04-09 21:29:36
150.   Bob Timmermann
Tom Hoffarth of the Daily News loves Vasgersian.

Put it this way, you could have Vin Scully making allusions to James Joyce or Matt Vasgersian yelling at the baseball and making jokes copied from "Animal House."

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2007-04-09 21:31:08
151.   Greg S
Vasgersian makes Steve Lyons sound like Vin Scully.
2007-04-09 21:31:48
152.   Andrew Shimmin
They ditched the tanktop, undershirt combo. Some day, one not too far off, the Reds'll have normal, respectable uniforms. It's baby steps.
2007-04-09 21:32:10
153.   D4P
I think the Legion reference is from when Jesus commanded some demons to leave a man who was possessed by said demons.
2007-04-09 21:34:38
154.   Andrew Shimmin
The annual debate about when to switch over to strategically rooting for the Giants to not lose every single game is going to start early this year. But I didn't mind watching them lose again tonight. How great would it be if they dropped twenty in a row?
2007-04-09 21:35:13
155.   Daniel Zappala
153 Yes, and Legion begged to be sent into pigs instead of being cast out the ordinary way. So Jesus sent them into the pigs and then they rushed over a cliff to their deaths. See Mark 5:9 and Luke 8:30.
2007-04-09 21:35:28
156.   Greg Brock
153 Yes, but the biblical story says that the demon responded "My name is Legion, for we are many."

It's in a couple of those books. You know, the new ones. Matthew or Luke or something. It's right after Jesus battles the copies of Agent Smith and saves the Matrix.

I'm not a theologian, but I'm pretty sure that's what happens.

2007-04-09 21:36:26
157.   Tommy Naccarato
This is my first post here in a long, long time with no more seen in the near future.

Great weather today, got the park after fighting the worst traffic jam I ever had in my 48 years as a Dodger fan. (at least what I can remember of the traffic jams at the Coliseum when my mom was carrying me in 1958)

It was my first time to ever sit in the "new" field boxes with the swanky tables, and while all of that was cool, I had a good chuckle to myself that Walter O'Malley was laughing his ass off somewhere in Blue Heaven, while seeing the people straining their necks down both baselines; in an effort to get a decent view of the batter while trying to catch a glimpse beyond the head of the person left of you.

Those seats, while quite comfortable, especially with the neat table and shelf are an architectural disaster--as far as terms of where they are located.

The sky divers were an awesome sight, some of them landing with-in clapping distance as I applauded their efforts. The F-16's as premature of a flyover as you could ever get (the National anthem hadn't even started yet) and of course the usual Opening Day-pre game hoopla.

What's disappointing to me is that over the years, I've seen a classy joint such as our stadium, further regress, and whether it's the crowds or the owner or the team, something is missing. Some sort of charm.

While I fully realize I'm older, much more crankier then I used to be; something has changed, especially after the team--fighting to get back into the game--get's overshadowed--in my section at least--by the dramatics of an idiot running on to the field or some big-chested Latina holding on to the beach ball as every hot-blooded male in Dodgertown looked on. She did look pretty hot, but honestly, she was just showing her cleavage off!)

You see Dodger Stadium used to be a sanctuary for me. I could escape my life and completely forget about the problems going on. I could think about roster moves; what pitcher should be in the bullpen warming up; Who should be pinch hitting and which mustard was best on my once affordable Dodger Dog. I thought of just how good I had it, right then at that very precise moment.

But that's all changed now.

Today I experienced something at the Stadium I never fully felt before--I was being controlled from the very moment I entered up until 2 1/2 hours after the Game, when we finally got out of the newly named, "Sunset Lot" through a broken down fence--and fought the traffic out the Academy Gate, down to Stadium Way.

If we would have waited for the Sunset crowd to leave, it would have taken 3/4's of a tank of gas waiting for it to clear and maybe at least 45 minutes more. Even one of the attendants chided with us of how ridiculous the new system was, knowing that the implementation of the old system would probably mean the end of his job there!

The system that was designed 45 years ago for Walter O'Malley's dream ballpark had it's quirks and turns, but knowledge of the ballpark; the ability to get out of the right gate the fastest way in relation to the size of the crowd--well you learned. I know I might be a bit resistant to change and that change is good, but honestly, and I say this knowing that your being released into traffic at rush hour--even at night, this is going to be a disaster, and frankly it's not something I'm looking forward to for the rest of the year. At least not when you can stay at home, watch the game on T.V. and save money.

I guess it all amounts to this: What was so wrong with the old system? Even during sell outs, like last year's season ending loss to the Mets, I was out of there quicker then I got in.

But most, it's presents an even more alarming thought of what is left to come.

2007-04-09 21:36:34
158.   Bob Timmermann
The Giants longest losing streak since moving to San Francisco is 10. They had two 13-game losing streaks in New York.
2007-04-09 21:37:02
159.   Andrew Shimmin
I always thought it was too bad that the possessed pigs jumped off the cliff. A pack of demon pigs should have been good for a few chapters. I don't think the author thought that through, all the way.
2007-04-09 21:38:57
160.   D4P
Regarding demon possession: are we all demon-possessed, in the sense that we all presumably have demons tempting us to sin constantly, and we all give in some portion of the time? Or is demon-possession different and worse than that?

I know the Bible seems to make it seem different and worse, but I wonder what the difference really is between demon-possession and what everyone experiences on a daily basis.

2007-04-09 21:40:11
161.   Greg Brock
When I do good things, that's me. When I do relally bad stuff, those are the demons.

It's pretty simple, really.

2007-04-09 21:40:35
162.   D4P
I always felt bad for the pigs. Why drag them into it? And the demons presumably left the pigs after the pigs died, anyway, right?
2007-04-09 21:40:46
163.   Greg Brock
See? That misspelling right there was all demon.

This proper spelling, right here, is all me.

2007-04-09 21:42:02
164.   D4P
I'm rooting for the Giants to lose every game, regardless of the impact on the Dodgers. A front office that puts a terrible roster together on an annual basis deserves to lose and to be fired for it.
2007-04-09 21:42:35
165.   Bob Timmermann
The pigs only jumped off the cliff because the evil director from Disney Studios made them do it.
2007-04-09 21:43:23
166.   Daniel Zappala
159 You gotta admit, he makes up for it in the end with raising people from the dead, a gripping court drama, brutal death, resurrection, speaking in tongues, and a really freaky apocalyptic vision of the future.
2007-04-09 21:46:13
167.   Daniel Zappala
You don't have to feel bad for the pigs. Lots of stuff was left out of the Bible, like the pigs being resurrected and mingling with the 10 virgins. We just don't have the full story.
2007-04-09 21:47:48
168.   D4P
We just don't have the full story

Maybe I'll dig up the rest in my backyard someday.

2007-04-09 21:49:07
169.   Daniel Zappala
168 You don't want to go down that path. It ends in martyrdom.
2007-04-09 21:50:43
170.   D4P
I never was much of a martyr before
2007-04-09 21:50:49
171.   Greg Brock
I'm just looking for the prophecy that ends with me having a really sweet beach house.

That's gotta be in one of those testaments. Maybe the missing one?

2007-04-09 21:51:33
172.   Greg Brock
The book of Malibu? The book of Brock?

The Brockalypse?

2007-04-09 21:54:32
173.   D4P
a really sweet beach house

But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.

2007-04-09 21:57:55
174.   Andrew Shimmin
173- That was written before Congress created the National Flood Insurance Program. The houses still fall down, but it's less of a problem when everybody who knows better, bands together to pay to replace the houses of those who don't. Win-win.
2007-04-09 22:00:40
175.   Greg Brock
173 Jesus didn't plan on homeowners insurance

Act of God, baby. How's that for irony?

2007-04-09 22:04:10
176.   KevPas
D4P

You could always build it on a rocky beach, then you would cover both parts of the parable.

2007-04-09 22:05:07
177.   KevPas
D4P

You could always build it on a rocky beach, then you would cover both parts of the parable.

2007-04-09 22:05:10
178.   KevPas
D4P

You could always build it on a rocky beach, then you would cover both parts of the parable.

2007-04-09 22:05:57
179.   Greg Brock
God always speaks in triplicate.
2007-04-09 22:09:05
180.   Daniel Zappala
And the devil speaks in triplicate doubled.
2007-04-09 22:12:27
181.   D4P
And the three men I admire most:
The father, son, and the holy ghost,
They caught the last train for the coast
2007-04-09 22:12:43
182.   Andrew Shimmin
Nobody's mentioned this here, right?

http://tinyurl.com/2jdrk3

2007-04-09 22:14:00
183.   beLITTLED and maligNED
Lot 10. Was parked by 11:30 prior to game. Left immediately after. Took 1.5 hours to get out of the parking lot.
2007-04-09 22:15:51
184.   D4P
182
FJM has commented on it
2007-04-09 22:22:01
185.   Andrew Shimmin
184- Hadn't seen it. Also hadn't seen that Cowherd got caught lifting material from the intertubes. Disney doesn't mind suing people for stealing its intellectual property over the internet; seems like they ought to have a policy about its talent doing it to other people.
2007-04-09 22:25:23
186.   Greg Brock
182 That guy is human herpes anyway. Any real sports company would have suspended him for that. Using your terrible morning show to DNS bomb a sports blog? Really? Especially after lifting material from a blog?

Colin Cowherd is a blight on humanity.

2007-04-09 22:27:39
187.   underdog
Killing two topics with one stone, I do sort of feel sorry, however, for Matt Cain, even if the rest of the Giants weren't very... able.

(Sorry)

All this talk of Dodger Stadium parking woes make me a) glad I'm not experiencing it first hand, b) hopeful that they listen to the criticisms and do something different to fix it, c) nostalgic for the days when I was a kid and I'd fall asleep in the back seat while my poor dad had to listen to the radio to stay awake, cursing quietly to himself as he tried to navigate out of the parking lot.

I hate the Giants but I appreciate they have a stadium I can bike to or take the streetcar to.

2007-04-09 22:28:08
188.   Daniel Zappala
I'm amazed he's still on the radio. I actually enjoyed listening to Kornheiser, he was funny on the radio, but Cowherd is just plain awful. I basically stopped listening to ESPN radio because of him.
2007-04-09 22:30:30
189.   Greg Brock
Kornheiser was/is great because he's funny, self-deprecating, and not that serious. Cowherd is the worst sort of know-it-all nerd.

I'll bet a fair amount that he used to get jammed into lockers as a kid.

2007-04-09 22:37:12
190.   Jon Weisman
157 - Enjoyed our post, Tommy.
2007-04-09 22:43:22
191.   Tommy Naccarato
Thanks Jon
2007-04-10 01:10:03
192.   overkill94
182 Going back to the original cause of controversy, I take offense to the figures the guy uses to make it seem like no one goes to UCLA football games. Somehow he believes that the average attendance at home games is 32,000 even though it was 64,218 in 2005 (it's too late for me to do more research than clicking on the 1st link in google).
2007-04-10 02:21:07
193.   Andrew Shimmin
192- That was the original cause of controversy? There are so many layers to this story!
2007-04-10 06:07:51
194.   Sam DC
You need me on that wall, Bob.
2007-04-10 07:35:51
195.   Benaiah
This was one of the more genius threads I have ever read. Starting with D4P's Cain and Abel joke which seguewayed into "religion thoughts". How can politics be banned, but not religion? No matter, I laughed out loud (at work, no less) several times.
2007-04-10 08:01:14
196.   ToyCannon
D4P is quite funny when teamed with GB and the subject is not baseball.

Went to the Angel game on Sunday, $8 parking and getting out took about 10 minutes.

Glad I missed the opening day disaster but that is why I stay home on opening day. All the new things they think of over the winter are supposed to be put into action by minimum wage people who couldn't care less and were probably trained with a two minute pep talk by someone who was trained with a three minute pep talk by someone who was trained with a five minute pep talk. Hopefully my street parking will be available but I expect I'll be parking way before the Asthma center unless I'm an hour early.

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