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Dodger Errata
2007-04-19 09:29
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Russell Martin's throwing error in the first inning Sunday has been rescinded in an official scoring change and a stolen base awarded to Marcus Giles in its stead, the Dodgers said today. No further explanation was provided, but presumably the scorer decided not to assume that Giles would be thrown out from the get-go, and since no other advancement took place, there was no error.

In other notes, Matt Kemp began a rehab assignment in AAA Las Vegas Wednesday, playing right field for five innings and going 0 for 3 but with no health repercussions.

* * *

A toast to the bride and groom at Bronx Banter:

More importantly, somewhere on a beach in Bermuda right around the time of the first pitch, our man Alex and his lovely bride Emily are going to become husband and wife. Please join me in wishing them a long, full lifetime of happiness, health, and prosperity together. Mazel tov!

* * *

Bob Welch at Cardboard Gods - I can't decide which part to excerpt, so go read the whole thing.

* * *

Remember, today's game is at 12:05 p.m.

CBSSportsline.com

Gameday

Retro Gameday

* * *

Want another great pregame read? It's not baseball, but check out this book excerpt at SI.com of Sally Jenkins' The Team That Invented Football.

The game, like the country in which it was created, was a rough, bastardized thing that jumped up out of the mud. What was football but barely legalized fighting? On the raw afternoon of Nov. 9, 1912, it was no small reflection of the American character.

The coach of the Carlisle Indian School, Glenn Scobey (Pop) Warner, strode up and down the visitors' locker room, a Turkish Trophy cigarette forked between his fingers. Warner, slab-faced and profane, wasn't one for speeches, unless cussing counted. But he was about to make an exception.

The 22 members of the Carlisle team sat, tensing, on rows of wooden benches. Some of them laced up ankle-high leather cleats, as thick-soled as jackboots. Others pulled up heavy football pants, which bagged around their thighs like quilts. They shrugged into bulky scarlet sweaters with flannel stuffed in the shoulders for padding. Flap-eared leather helmets sat on the benches next to them, as stiff as picnic baskets.

Often Warner was at a loss to inspire the Indians. He didn't always understand their motives, and he had put his boot in their backsides on more than one occasion. Jim Thorpe could be especially galling. The 25-year-old Oklahoman from the Sauk and Fox tribe had an introverted disposition and a carelessness that baffled Warner. But on this Saturday afternoon Warner knew just how to reach Thorpe -- and his teammates. Carlisle, the nation's flagship institution for Native Americans, was to meet the U.S. Military Academy in a showdown between two of the top football teams in the country.

It was an exquisitely apt piece of national theater: a contest between Indians and soldiers. The officers-in-training in the home locker room represented a military legacy that taunted the Indians. The frontier battles between Native Americans and the saber-waving U.S. Army "long knives" were fresh in the players' minds -- Warner had been reminding them of the subject all week. "I shouldn't have to prepare you for this game," the coach had told them. "Just go to your rooms and read your history books."

Only 22 years earlier, on Dec. 29, 1890, the U.S. Army had massacred Big Foot's band at Wounded Knee in the last major confrontation between the military and American Indians. Feelings between the Army and tribesmen still ran so high that this was just the second time they had been allowed to meet on a sports field. "When Indian outbreaks in the West were frequent the Government officials thought it unwise to have the aborigines and future officers combat in athletics," The New York Times reported. ...

Comments (167)
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2007-04-19 10:11:46
1.   old dodger fan
I know it is early but Loney and LaRoche are not making much of a positive statement at Vegas.
2007-04-19 10:15:34
2.   s choir
ITD has the lineup, it's back to normal.

Furcal, SS
Pierre, CF
Nomar, 1B
Kent, 2B
Gonzalez, LF
Martin, C
Ethier, RF
Betemit, 3B
Hendrickson, P

2007-04-19 10:24:01
3.   bhsportsguy
1 LaRoche did not have a great April last year so perhaps he is a slow starter.
2007-04-19 10:28:28
4.   Inside Baseball
I find that to be a very strange scoring decison. I'm happy for Martin, but why wouldn't a scorer assume that Giles would be thrown out? He came to a complete stop.

btw did anyone see the attempted steal of home last night by Albert Pujols in the top of the 12 inning? Had he not not stopped midway he would have been safe as Molina dropped the ball in his haste to tag the runner. Crazy play, and although rationally it was misguided, I really liked the attempt.

2007-04-19 10:36:33
5.   Jon Weisman
4 - I think enough players get out of rundowns to make the case that you shouldn't assume the out. Executing a good rundown play is fundamental but not automatic. I see the argument, anyway.
2007-04-19 11:03:08
6.   ToyCannon
Jim Thorpe, nice Jon. Those old Hollywood bio's were awful but sometimes they were my 1st memories of heroes long gone.
2007-04-19 11:19:07
7.   Linkmeister
Regarding Alex and Emily, I enjoyed this comment by Cliff Corcoran:

"They're actually getting hitched there, on the beach, just the twos of them. They're basically eloping except they told everyone about it."

Got it.

2007-04-19 11:36:04
8.   Eric Enders
4 I see the argument too, but I don't buy it for a second. The original call was the correct one. Not that I'm complaining, since I'm sure at the end of the year Gold Glove voters will be looking at that error column.

Speaking of which, Dodgers.com is already promoting Martin for the All-Star Game. Any chance he actually gets elected?

Rich Donnelly fans, did you see how the Seattle-Minnesota game ended last night, with Beltre getting thrown out at the plate by a mile? Here's what the M's skipper had to say about it:

"A good third base coach is not doing his job unless he is getting guys thrown out at home plate," Hargrove said.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=270418112&prov=ap

I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one.

2007-04-19 11:36:20
9.   Xeifrank
If it were a criminal trial, Martin wouldn't be charged with an error, but if it were a civil trial he would be. I'd say the proponderence of the evidence is heavily weighted on giving him a throwing error. I guess the official scorer is one of those [edited for rule 5]. :) vr, Xei
2007-04-19 11:42:20
10.   Jon Weisman
A good manager is not doing his job unless he is losing games.

A good waiter is not doing his job unless he is dropping plates of food.

I like it.

Seriously, I get what he's trying to say, but it's a pretty poor way of saying it. There's a difference between having a guy thrown out on a close play and having him thrown out by 30 feet.

2007-04-19 11:47:37
11.   KBL
10) Amen to that Jon. If Nomar can be thrown out by a throw that was off the plate and still be 1/3 of the way away from home, he should not be sent.
2007-04-19 11:57:36
12.   jasonungar05
Can U blame Donnelly and Grady about sending Nomar? They have been watching our OF defense for 15 games and figured, aww what the heck.
2007-04-19 12:08:20
13.   FirstMohican
Are there numbers on plays at the plate that might indicate how good a 3rd base coach is?

I did a quick google search but only found an article on how to apply sabrmetric principles to dating.

2007-04-19 12:08:54
14.   MMSMikey
did that at bat by furcal frusterate anyone?
the pitcher starts him off with 2 balls, then he swings at the 2-0 pitch that is a foot inside and misses, then procedes to hit a weak dribbler to the right side, and not run it out to 1st base.
2007-04-19 12:09:18
15.   D4P
What do the following have in common:

1. Death
2. Taxes
3. Juan Pierre grounding out to second

2007-04-19 12:10:07
16.   still bevens
13 Baseball analysts did an analysis on the effectiveness of coaches about 2-3 weeks ago. It was a bit over my head. The site is linked on the right under non-partisan sites.
2007-04-19 12:10:27
17.   D4P
Are there numbers on plays at the plate that might indicate how good a 3rd base coach is?

I remember suggesting here last year that someone should keep track of such things. Why not have stats for coaches, if we can?

2007-04-19 12:10:32
18.   ToyCannon
I fear for my health if I'm going to be watching Pierre play CF for 5 years. I've started to develop a twitch not unlike Chief Insp. Charles Dreyfus whenever a ball is hit to CF. When Helton took 3rd on him yesterday my wife looked at me and said "he throws like a girl". I hope I'm not breaking any rules but watching baseball shouldn't be this painfull. As pennance I won't mention him for a week.
2007-04-19 12:11:58
19.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Ah, what a beautiful day to open up the screen door, make some fresh iced tea, and watch the local nine play baseball the way it was meant to be played, in the sunshine....

WHAT? THE GAME'S NOT ON LOCAL TV?

AND it's blacked out on Extra Innings?

I swear, being a Rockies fan is about as rewarding as being a member of the Libertarian Party sometimes.

2007-04-19 12:12:52
20.   D4P
16
Donnelly rates third to last in

Equivalent Ground Advancement Runs (EqGAR). Measures the contribution of baserunners above and beyond what would be expected in opportunities they have for advancing on outs made on the ground. For example, advancing from second to third on a ground out to shortstop or getting gunned down at home on a grounder to second.

2007-04-19 12:13:07
21.   old dodger fan
He is rephrasing the old lawyers mantra, "If my clients aren't complaining about my bills I'm not charging enough".

Obviously no manager wants to see runners getting cut down at home very often but if it happens now and then and (this is important) the outs are close plays then the manger knows his coach is encouraging aggressive baserunning. If the play is not close then the coach misjudged it. He should have his judgement skills honed in other places than the major leagues.

I did not see the play but if it wasn't close and the runner didn't hesitate then the coach made an error. (E-10?)

2007-04-19 12:15:27
22.   Mark T.R. Donohue
21 Isn't the DH 10?
2007-04-19 12:16:00
23.   jasonungar05
Yeah ToyCannon I feel the same way. I was unhappy etc with the signing from an offensive perspective and didn't realize his OF defense was THAT bad. (Gonzo too) I am a much bigger fan of "defense to win" vs offense in all sports. Giving outs away, giving bases away drives me nuts, more so than weak grounders to 2b.
2007-04-19 12:19:40
24.   El Lay Dave
Looking on the bright side: Hendrickson gets three ground outs in the first on eleven pitches.
2007-04-19 12:20:28
25.   D4P
LuGo is hitting much better than I expected him to
2007-04-19 12:21:51
26.   D4P
That's weird: being a young player, I would have expected Martin to do something selfish and flashy, like get a hit. Instead, he went all Veteran on me and chose to hit a sac fly instead.
2007-04-19 12:22:43
27.   bhsportsguy
Ethier is beginning to hit, looks like he will be the man, Kemp may have to look for a place in Vegas for a while.
2007-04-19 12:24:35
28.   GoBears
The Error is probably the worst stat in baseball. Even worse than the Save (which is at least fairly objective).

Last night, Vinnie was appalled that Nomar might get an error for a ball that bounced off his glove, and then that Furcal might get one for a ball that went under his glove. Sure, both were tough hops, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have been handled by guys who get paid millions to be better than the average fan.

I see at least 5 problems with the Error.

First, too many announcers and fans see it as some sort of moral judgment.

Second, (and I realize I'm repeating myself) too many people fail to hold major leaguers to major-league standards. The standard seems to be "Would I have had trouble making that play? If so, he's absolved!"

Third, there's the obvious disincentive for an official scorer either to take a hit away from a home batter, or to assign an error to a home defender. In some way, the assignment of an error hurts a home team guy's stats, and so the benefit of the doubt always goes to the fielder.

Fourth, since extra bases always have to be accounted for, errors are a function not just of the execution of the play, but of its results. That seems wrong. A screw-up is a screw-up, even if you're lucky enough that it didn't matter.

Fifth, errors of omission are ignored. Among other things, there are no baserunning "errors." Mental "errors" (e.g., throwing to the wrong base) are waved off.

Players make mistakes, even when they try hard. Either count them consistently or don't. Perhaps the problem is with the term "error," which has a much more general meaning in common parlance than it has in baseball.

I guess a 6th problem (again, obvious) is how that stat is used. Some stats are merely for accounting purposes. Others measure performance. The Error is kinda both, and kinda not both.

2007-04-19 12:25:58
29.   MMSMikey
gonzo cant score on a weak ground ball that finds a hole?
2007-04-19 12:26:59
30.   El Lay Dave
Is Andrew Shimmin going to do unspeakable things to Hendrickson's bobblehead doll if he even offers at a pitch here?
2007-04-19 12:29:01
31.   D4P
28
I generally agree, though I feel I should point out that not assigning an error to a home fielder is simultaneously assigning a hit allowed to the home pitcher, and thus possibly subsequent "earned" runs instead of "unearned". So, there's a tradeoff.

I would also add that errors don't do a good job of accounting for variation in range, etc. Players with good range who get to more balls probably make more errors than players with bad range. Also, like you said, if you bobble a grounder with a slow runner, you might still be able to throw him out (and thus not get an error). But with the exact same bobble and throw versus a fast runner, all of a sudden you get an error.

2007-04-19 12:33:08
32.   Greg Brock
If we could do away with any stat, I'll take (or leave, as it were) RBI. A stat completely predicated on how the other guys on your team performed ahead of you. RBI are a measure of nothing.
2007-04-19 12:33:25
33.   D4P
Have the Dodgers blown a lead yet this year? I can't recall them having done so. According to my memory, once they get the lead, they win.
2007-04-19 12:34:38
34.   El Lay Dave
33 They led 1-0 yesterday. How quickly they forget.
2007-04-19 12:34:50
35.   ssjames
33 Well, you know there was a game yesterday where we led 1-0 and then lost, right?
2007-04-19 12:35:02
36.   D4P
I'd eliminate W, L, S, RBI, and SF. Plus probably others I'm not thinking of.
2007-04-19 12:35:05
37.   GoBears
33. yesterday.
2007-04-19 12:36:22
38.   D4P
34-5
I think my mind had implicitly rendered yesterday's game obsolete, if for no other reason than that Lieberthal was batting cleanup
2007-04-19 12:37:13
39.   D4P
Hendrickson > Schmidt

Who knew.

2007-04-19 12:37:53
40.   Curtis Lowe
32- If there were no RBIS how would either team win?
2007-04-19 12:38:04
41.   Greg Brock
I don't really have a problem with Saves, except for the three-run cushion. Three run lead and you get a Save? Silly.

Make it two runs, and I like Saves a lot better.

2007-04-19 12:38:38
42.   FirstMohican
Man I signed up for MLB.tv and have wanted to watch a total of 6 games so far this season, 5 of which were blacked out. I'm over it.
2007-04-19 12:38:40
43.   twerp
I've seen Lurch described lately as having command of 4 pitches.

Questions:

1)What are his 4 pitches?

2)Where's his FB usually clocked? I know he's not considered a power pitcher but am curious. Guess he's a sinkerballer?

3) What have most of his strikeouts come on? He has about a K per inning so far and had a relief appearance late last year where he struck out 8 in 4 innings.

2007-04-19 12:39:33
44.   D4P
I'd also eliminate GIDP, which is too dependent upon how many runners you have on in front of you and how fast they are. If you wanna keep track of groundball outs, that's fine.
2007-04-19 12:42:04
45.   Greg Brock
40 Why, on hustle points, of course! Accumulated through shirt dirtification, extra-base taking, and facial stubble.
2007-04-19 12:43:05
46.   D4P
Accumulated through shirt dirtification, extra-base taking, and facial stubble

Don't forget head-first slides, and the related head-first slides into 1B

2007-04-19 12:46:14
47.   Greg Brock
Grass stains worth more than dirt stains, becuase that means you're driving in runs with your glove, ala Cesar Izturis.
2007-04-19 12:46:24
48.   Curtis Lowe
46- would that be the equivelent of a grand-slam? Or does the slam still stand?
2007-04-19 12:50:02
49.   Andrew Shimmin
30- Who's to say?
2007-04-19 12:51:14
50.   Curtis Lowe
I thought we swung on 3-2 here?
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2007-04-19 12:51:41
51.   Greg Brock
Unclutch walk from 3.5 leads to three runs.

Unclutch!

2007-04-19 12:53:10
52.   Sushirabbit
If the bases are loaded is a walk really as good as a hit? :-)

Boom Boom!

2007-04-19 12:53:14
53.   D4P
Ethier took the walk to make sure he got at least one stat-padding RBI
2007-04-19 12:53:42
54.   ROC
Betemit finally gets rewarded for hitting the ball hard...even if was directly at someone.
2007-04-19 12:55:58
55.   El Lay Dave
54 Well, yes and no. It's a PA and AB, with no hit and no RBI. But good, hard contact is still showing Grady something.

Does anyone think they'll reverse that error tomorrow?

2007-04-19 13:03:25
56.   tskent
Going inot today, the Dodger are..

0-3 when Marky Mark makes an appearance.

10-2 when Marky Mark DOESN'T make an appearance.

2007-04-19 13:03:35
57.   D4P
Wow. Bunting. Again.
2007-04-19 13:03:39
58.   El Lay Dave
You're down five runs, runner on first, one out, bottom of the third. Do you have the pitcher bunt to stay out of the double-play? I think you have to swing the bat and take your chances. Besides, it's not like Cook is facing, say, Santana out there today.
2007-04-19 13:04:18
59.   ROC
Ahh... with my forced optimism I didn't realize they scored an error. I saw it eat him up, and day game+work conference call=muted TV.

As much as I want LaRoche or Nomar at 3rd, I'm really pulling for Wilson to do well cuz he's the guy there now.

2007-04-19 13:04:43
60.   old dodger fan
Rockies down 5-0 with 1 out and 1 on and the next 2 batters bunt to the pitcher. I don't get it. They need a 3 run rally to get back in the game and they are in Denver after all.
2007-04-19 13:05:49
61.   Jon Weisman
If he can manage two more shutout innings, Hendrickson will qualify to be No. 5 in the NL in ERA.
2007-04-19 13:06:40
62.   El Lay Dave
60 The last weather report I saw was mid-50s at the stadium with a wind blowing in, not great hitting conditions, but still, I'm with you (obviously) on that.
2007-04-19 13:08:11
63.   El Lay Dave
Jay Pee
Four - Three
2007-04-19 13:08:29
64.   El Lay Dave
61 Shhhhh. Don't jinx it!
2007-04-19 13:08:39
65.   Sushirabbit
Raise your hand if you ever thought Hendrickson and rule #9 would ever come together?
2007-04-19 13:11:16
66.   tskent
He's given up a hit already silly willy.
2007-04-19 13:13:11
67.   D4P
65
I've always considered Hendrickson and rule #1 to be a better match
2007-04-19 13:15:16
68.   dzzrtRatt
Boy, Atkins didn't make it very hard for Kent to turn that DP. Did he stop for a snack along the way to first?
2007-04-19 13:17:58
69.   old dodger fan
65 Can you jinx a 1-hitter?
2007-04-19 13:18:39
70.   D4P
Did he stop for a snack along the way to first?

If so, it was undoubtedly of the low-carb variety

2007-04-19 13:19:03
71.   Curtis Lowe
69- Probably just as well as you can jinx your heterosexuality.
2007-04-19 13:20:55
72.   Sushirabbit
Well, I waited to post the question....
2007-04-19 13:23:10
73.   El Lay Dave
64 The jinx comment was on looking ahead to Hendrickson pitching well. I'm happy that he's hung four goose eggs up there today.
2007-04-19 13:28:16
74.   tskent
Russy's been a stinky poo today.
2007-04-19 13:29:41
75.   DodgerBakers
74. No kidding, and he is on all of my fantasy teams
2007-04-19 13:30:21
76.   El Lay Dave
Hendrickson has given up two hits and a walk the second time through the batting order, with the # 7 hitter coming up.
2007-04-19 13:30:38
77.   D4P
It has been my observation that the Dodgers have induced a lot of doubleplays thus far.
2007-04-19 13:30:50
78.   Connector
Whatever sports psychologist taught Mark Hendrickson sure is working. The difference between Henrickson of old and his performance so far today (3 singles, only one man to second base) is nothing short of miraculous.
2007-04-19 13:31:04
79.   El Lay Dave
75 He does have one RBI on the SF.
2007-04-19 13:31:17
80.   D4P
BTW: Why do we say "double play" instead of "double out"...?
2007-04-19 13:32:40
81.   Connector
78
I meant to say "whatever sports psychologist Ken Ravizza taught Mark Henrickson..."
2007-04-19 13:33:23
82.   ToyCannon
Big Bird earned his Dodger wings today no matter what else happens.
2007-04-19 13:37:18
83.   Greg Brock
Credit to Betemit. He can't hit a lick right now, but that's his ninth walk of the season, I believe.
2007-04-19 13:38:39
84.   tskent
Johnny W needs to give a Marky Mark update in the ERA race if he throws a shutout.
2007-04-19 13:38:39
85.   El Lay Dave
77 Tied for fourth in the NL with 16, before today. Mets lead, by far, with 23.
2007-04-19 13:44:38
86.   tskent
Raffy's a smellie shelley in April. I'd of advocated a prolonged 'rehab' assignment.
2007-04-19 13:44:44
87.   Greg Brock
You go ahead and bunt, Rockies. Bunt like the wind down five runs.
2007-04-19 13:46:47
88.   D4P
87
I hate bad managing, even by the opponent.
2007-04-19 13:49:08
89.   Humma Kavula
there goes the shutout.
2007-04-19 13:49:52
90.   Greg Brock
Good job, Lurch. I do believe he's earned another start.

{Polite applause}

2007-04-19 13:50:20
91.   still bevens
Good work Mark. Probably his best outing in blue.
2007-04-19 13:51:18
92.   D4P
No Quality Start...!
2007-04-19 13:53:04
93.   trainwreck
Russell Martin is coming up on Rome Is Burning. He is the correspondent for a day and it was filmed during Jackie Robinson day.
2007-04-19 13:54:23
94.   Connector
92
Clarify that please. 11 ground ball outs, 2 strike outs, only 5 hits and one run over 5 and a third innings is a quality outing in my book.
2007-04-19 13:55:31
95.   imperabo
He didn't go six, therefore his start lacks quality.
2007-04-19 13:56:11
96.   ToyCannon
ARod does it again. He is carrying that team on his back.
2007-04-19 14:02:47
97.   jasonungar05
10 bombs 26rbi in 14 games. I hope he goes off this year and opts out. I am not an A-rod fan, but I dislike the Yankees even more.
2007-04-19 14:03:04
98.   Greg Brock
94 Six innings or more, three runs or fewer. Those are the rules for a quality start.

Yes, it's a stupid, stupid stat.

2007-04-19 14:04:14
99.   Jon Weisman
96 - Talk about your two-out rallies.

I always liked A-Rod, was always sad the Dodgers were forced to draft Dreifort instead of him. Hearing the Yankee fans complain about A-Rod did put me even more firmly in his corner.

2007-04-19 14:05:37
100.   trainwreck
I was looking at my fantasy team. There was a 0 by A-rod for today's points, then suddenly it went to an 8 with one one swing.
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2007-04-19 14:06:55
101.   Connector
98 Thanks, Greg
2007-04-19 14:08:16
102.   imperabo
98 I actually don't have a problem with it. Yes it's arbitrary, but all stats are in some respect. There are better ways to measure overall pitching performance, but I think it does measure something that other stats don't. Of course, if it ever becomes a goal in itself, then it's time to retire it.
2007-04-19 14:08:27
103.   jasonungar05
Yeah exactly Jon. Now I am pulling for the guy. I liked him in Seattle but when he went to Texas and then bailed on them after all his talk it soured me. Then with some of his actions as a Yankee I haven't been a fan. But he has done nothing but play great baseball for the yankees aside from the playoffs (Jeter has choked just as bad in some of these recent playoffs I belive if memory serves me right) and has never gotten a fair shake there. He can be my dodger 3b in 2008 and beyond and i'd be ecstatic.
2007-04-19 14:11:19
104.   blue22
98 - Cook managed to get the quality start today though, oddly enough.
2007-04-19 14:12:38
105.   El Lay Dave
103 Does it qualify as irony if Ned signs a guy who opted-out of his contract with another team?
2007-04-19 14:12:46
106.   Greg Brock
102 Yeah, that's my problem with it. It's just completely arbitrary. I say that a Quality Start is seven innings or more with two earned runs or fewer. Let's make it that.

Just like Saves, I guess. Let's make an arbitrary runs/innings rule, and create a stat around it. I mean, it doesn't bother me that it's used, I just have no use for it.

2007-04-19 14:13:48
107.   El Lay Dave
104 Is QS based on runs or earned runs?
2007-04-19 14:15:11
108.   El Lay Dave
I just realize Grady went to Tsao today (a day game) after using him last night. Is his arm that healthy now?
2007-04-19 14:15:35
109.   jasonungar05
As long as he WANTS to be a Dodger, Bernie will let it slide.
2007-04-19 14:15:45
110.   Greg Brock
107 It's earned runs. Sorry for not being more clear in 98
2007-04-19 14:19:41
111.   Marty
Looking at Beimel's Gameday photo makes me think he could have a future in Geico commercials.
2007-04-19 14:20:02
112.   imperabo
It's the "give his team a chance to win" stat. You can argue that a guy who gives up 3 runs every game is worth more than a guy who alternates giving up zero and 6. You have a good chance of winning both games with pitcher A and you you'll most likely go .500 with pitcher B. I can understand why people don't like it, but I do think it measures something real and I don't know any other way of measuring it.
2007-04-19 14:21:11
113.   trainwreck
111
I was thinking he looked like Vincent Gallo on a bad day (which is probably everyday).
2007-04-19 14:23:02
114.   3upn3down
Scenario: Schmidt misses his next start giving Hendrickson another turn. Tomko is the "Real" Tomko in his next start (making 2 below avg starts in a row). Hendrickson pitches well in his next start. Schmidt then comes back.

You are the Grady, who do you send to the bullpen when Schmidt comes back?

2007-04-19 14:23:42
115.   capdodger
What is with Jamey Carroll's eyebrows in his GD photo? He looks a little bit, um, serial killer-ish.
2007-04-19 14:24:26
116.   overkill94
Sorry if someone mentioned this, but they finally found Willy Aybar...and apparently he's dealing with drug and alcohol abuse. I feel for the guy, but feel somewhat relieved we don't have to deal with it.

http://tinyurl.com/29zocb

2007-04-19 14:24:52
117.   El Lay Dave
113 I think Vincent Gallo had at least one non-bad day (by many a man's standards), and he captured it on film.
2007-04-19 14:25:41
118.   imperabo
114 I think Hendrickson. He likes the hot hand, and Tomko was never a lock for anything.
2007-04-19 14:25:49
119.   Jon Weisman
116 - I've been waiting for this. It seemed to weird for him to just disappear for no reason.
2007-04-19 14:26:42
120.   Connector
112
Despite his fine performance Mark H doesn't get a QS stat because he came up one out short. I have a problem with the logic.
2007-04-19 14:27:11
121.   trainwreck
116
Hope Willy can get through this and I wish him the best.

117
Yes, that was a good 8 minutes for him.

2007-04-19 14:27:26
122.   Jon Weisman
114 - I know yours is a hypothetical question, but I wouldn't count on Schmidt being back so soon.
2007-04-19 14:28:36
123.   ROC
Today's Dodger notes repeats the Kemp "eligible to be activated Sept. 25" error. Or is it a mistake? (duh duh duuuum)

http://tinyurl.com/28xmby

2007-04-19 14:28:37
124.   DodgerBakers
116 just beat me to it.
2007-04-19 14:29:35
125.   3upn3down
Jon, I'm affraid you may be right. Any word on what the MRI revealed?
2007-04-19 14:30:11
126.   bhsportsguy
98 Having no statistical analysis to back me up, the small sample for the Dodgers this year is that they have 8 Quality Starts and only 1 was a 3 ER in 6 innings pitched.

And I will take an examination of the 2006 results from last year but I think the percentage will be higher than the current 12.5%, its not going be something like 50% either. And it makes sense that teams win the majority of the time when their starter pitches 6 innings or more.

If the Dodgers win today, it will mean that the starters have been involved in all but 2 games which the last time I checked, is tied as the lowest number of decisions that the bullpen has so far in 2007.

2007-04-19 14:30:19
127.   BlueCrew Bruin
115 I was initially a bit shocked by the anger in this post. Then I realized "GD" stood for Game Day.
2007-04-19 14:31:10
128.   ROC
Nice JP. Does anyone have a problem with the a steal up 6-1 at Coors?
2007-04-19 14:31:19
129.   capdodger
120 Batters who are thrown out by at quarter step after hitting shots up the middle have a problem with the definition of a hit.
2007-04-19 14:31:44
130.   imperabo
Pierre is a better hitter than he is a base stealer.
2007-04-19 14:32:46
131.   3upn3down
Was Nomar intentionaly walked there?
2007-04-19 14:34:19
132.   underdog
Missed the first few innings of the game but sure looked like Hendrickson pitched another fine game. Wow. I think more teams might be sending their pitchers to the motivational guru that Hendy's been seeing, if this continues. Nice to see Pierre get another legit hit there, and nice to see Betemit get a hit at all today. All in all this game's... nice to see.
2007-04-19 14:34:32
133.   imperabo
Kent is better than Babe Ruth.
2007-04-19 14:35:22
134.   imperabo
Unless you consider doubles an arbitrary achievement.
2007-04-19 14:36:09
135.   capdodger
Gameday says, "Soft line drive" to the fence?
Did the Rocks just give him a really big alley?
2007-04-19 14:36:37
136.   imperabo
It wasn't soft.
2007-04-19 14:37:24
137.   3upn3down
I'm assuming Kent was okay after that double, and that the pinch run was to get him to the showers early. No injury concern?
2007-04-19 14:37:55
138.   capdodger
136 Ah... Home-team Gameday stringing...
2007-04-19 14:38:53
139.   natepurcell
kerhsaw is starting now.

leading off with 91-93 mph fastballs.

2007-04-19 14:39:01
140.   ToyCannon
The Rockies have dreck like Herges pitching in the bullpen and they couldn't offer one of their own(Tsao) a contract after they spent two years rehabilitating him. Wouldn't he be better then Matt if he was pitching was his off arm?
2007-04-19 14:41:29
141.   natepurcell
announcer says 79mph cb is sharp with a 1-7 tilt.
2007-04-19 14:42:00
142.   underdog
137 Yep, Kent looks fine. No reason to keep him in there.

So, Mark Grace's The Biggest Man Alive is on for the, what? Un-save? The Sustain?

2007-04-19 14:42:31
143.   underdog
140 In a word, yes.
2007-04-19 14:43:28
144.   Greg Brock
134 You mock me! ;)

I can't wait for Jim Tracy to come back to LA, and the inevitable Plaschke article slipping in snide comments about DePodesta. Good times.

2007-04-19 14:45:26
145.   imperabo
144 Nah. I mostly agree with you. I'm mocking the absurdity of the human condition.
2007-04-19 14:46:02
146.   Connector
I can't image what it feels like to catch a 96 MPH Broxton fastball. How does Martin do it?
2007-04-19 14:46:06
147.   Michaelpop
With one out to go I hope I don't regret jumping the gun here, but hey, zero combined home runs in the series! This ain't your older brother's Coors Field, that's for sure.
2007-04-19 14:46:16
148.   Greg Brock
We win!
2007-04-19 14:47:22
149.   natepurcell
first inning

GO to kershaw

strike 3 looking curveball

GO to kershaw

2007-04-19 14:49:40
150.   bhsportsguy
11-5, who predicted that?

Bueller, Bueller?

(I just love that joke)

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2007-04-19 14:50:08
151.   Curtis Lowe
146- With a glove and alot of protection.
2007-04-19 14:50:35
152.   Icaros
I thought MLB said they couldn't use the humidor anymore.
2007-04-19 14:52:30
153.   still bevens
152 I thought every team had to store their baseballs in a humidor now? Thus rendering Rick Monday's diatribe in the 8th moot.
2007-04-19 14:52:45
154.   imperabo
151 Is there any way to make that a punchline to joke without violating rule 1?
2007-04-19 14:53:03
155.   overkill94
151 This is a G-rated site Curtis
2007-04-19 14:54:12
156.   Curtis Lowe
If the glove fits...
2007-04-19 15:01:21
157.   bhsportsguy
The Pirates only make one trip into Dodger Stadium this year, with a huge crowd for T-shirt night tomorrow, I would say they would wait until very late (9:00 or even later) to call the game especially if it is light rain.

They have a night game on Saturday so I don't think they will mind staying up for a while.

2007-04-19 15:02:16
158.   bhsportsguy
Also, they have not had rain out in 6-7 years so I think they would like to keep that streak going.
2007-04-19 15:02:17
159.   natepurcell
2nd inning

walk 4 straight pitches (he needs to stop doing this)

GO to 2b, runner advances to 2nd.

CS at 3b

3-2, pitch to the backstop, 2nd walk

Kershaw picks him off.

so far

2IP 0H 0ER 2bb 1k

2007-04-19 15:04:01
160.   Bob Timmermann
157
I sat through Eric Gagne bobblehead doll night in the rain. For about five innings.

Then I started to lose feeling in my hands and feet as I wasn't dressed properly.

I went home.

I don't regret it.

2007-04-19 15:09:36
161.   LeeLacy
A tip of the hat goes to ... Mark Hendrickson.

I was highly critical of him last year and had hoped the Dodgers would dump him in the offseason. But you've got to give credit where credit's due: he has a 1.62 ERA in 16.2 IP, and is holding opposing batters to a measly .167 BA.

I don't know how much more of this we can expect, but I'll continue to enjoy it while it lasts.

2007-04-19 15:11:05
162.   trainwreck
161
Who gets the wag of the finger?
2007-04-19 15:14:32
163.   FirstMohican
he has a 1.62 ERA in 16.2 IP

Can't wait to see what his ERA is when he has pitched 162.0 innings.

2007-04-19 15:16:51
164.   Jon Weisman
New post up top. This is not a drill. New post up top.
2007-04-19 15:19:18
165.   blue22
161 - Only 2 K's today, in 5.2 innings. I'm not sure if that's encouraging or not, but I've attributed most of his relatively brief success (since he became a reliever last season) to a big upswing in his K rate, relative to his career figures.
2007-04-19 15:19:41
166.   dsfan
Wish I could jump on the Stan Conte bandwagon, but I see him as being as much part of the Schmidt problem as the solution. The Giants didn't go after Schmidt because they had health concerns. They were not alone. Doesn't appear Stan gave the Dodgers any sort of inside edge whatsoever. I was hoping he would. But right now, it appears Stan was clueless about Schmidt's shoulder weakness. I regard Conte as a self-promoter who gets way too much media play.
2007-04-19 15:25:27
167.   natepurcell
3rd inning

1-2 swing n miss K

GB single up the middle on a 2-2 91mph fb

0-2 bloop single fisted to RF

1-2 cb K

1-2 single on cb, 1 run scores, runner picked off between 2nd and 3rd

after 3

3IP 3H 1ER 2bb 3k

from listening, his fb velocity has been consistently 91-94 and hes getting alot of 2strikes on the hitters but hes not getting many bites or swing and misses on his cb.

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