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June 29 Game Chat

2007-06-29 18:25

by Jon Weisman

Tonight's game:

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2007-06-29 18:33:34

1. Eric Enders

Ah, the stealth new post.

I'll say that although tonight's lineup is not the one I would come up with, it's one that I would be satisfied with for the second half of the season.

2007-06-29 18:47:45

2. Jon Weisman

I can't sign in there now, but can someone please go to Tony Jackson's blog and comment that despite what he writes, Milton Bradley was a successful pickup in 2004. Tony doesn't have to like the guy, but rewriting history serves no one.

That's what I get for breaking my fast. Good tidings, everyone.

2007-06-29 18:58:04

3. Eric Enders

I've tried to post on Tony Jackson's blog a couple of times, but every time it tells me I need to register before I can post. And then it doesn't allow me to register -- nowhere on the site is there any registration link.

I suspect my ad blocker may be blocking out the registration link, especially if the link is attached to a jpeg or gif instead of a text link. Anyway, my desire to post there has not been strong enough for me spend any time figuring out what the problem is.

2007-06-29 19:03:27

4. Indiana Jon

From the last thread. Not sure if they have live nude dancing in Dayton, but they do have fireworks.

2007-06-29 19:08:59

5. Daniel Zappala

Done, Jon.

2007-06-29 19:26:50

6. Eric Enders

Over/under on Dodger stolen bases tonight: 3.

2007-06-29 19:32:54

7. The Rabbits Rarely Loose

Man, regarding the Anderson DFA, im going to be very annoyed if Ned trades for a " Vet presence off the bench" at the deadline
. . .and, frankly I wont be surprised at all if he does . . .

2007-06-29 19:35:54

8. fanerman

I also made a comment on the blog. I didn't have any problems registering. There wasn't a button that sad register. I clicked on "sign in" and then there was a link to also create an account.

2007-06-29 19:37:02

9. Andrew Shimmin

Jon tricked me into opening an account over there, and then I saw Zappala had already taken care of business. I should have let that be the end of it, but, to my shame, I didn't. Letting the sportswriting illiterati get to me is a character flaw.

2007-06-29 19:37:22

10. Bumsrap

Its Time for Dodgers Baseball

2007-06-29 19:38:55

11. Sam in SC

I am in!! thank god we have vin for the play by play.

2007-06-29 19:40:07

12. Indiana Jon

I got my tickets for the Dayton game. 4 tickets for $57 on Ebay, not bad. Seats are down the 3rd baseline though, opposite the Loons bullpen. Now I just hope he really pitches on the 4th.

2007-06-29 19:41:02

13. Andrew Shimmin

12- Sounds like you'll be able to move them without taking a bath if he doesn't, though.

2007-06-29 19:43:56

14. natepurcell

that was a total strikeout. come onnnnn.

2007-06-29 19:45:11

15. Andrew Shimmin

Is Kuo's fastball sitting at 88?

2007-06-29 19:46:13

16. Vaudeville Villain

I'm looking at the Padres lineup for the first time in a while. The Giles' brothers have been pretty bad this year, each posting sub-.700 OPSes.

2007-06-29 19:46:19

17. CanuckDodger

9 -- I was just going to post that "Andrew Shimmin was SO mean to Tony Jackson." Hey, its not like he said the Dodgers should trade Loney, Billingsley, and Kershaw for Teixeira.

2007-06-29 19:47:21

18. Indiana Jon

13 I'll probably just go whether he pitches or not. The kids need to see fireworks somewhere anyway. After he pitches in the Futures Game a few days after that, he may move on to Inland. It could be his last game for the Loons.

2007-06-29 19:49:26

19. Andrew Shimmin

Matt Kemp: no glove.

2007-06-29 19:49:39

20. Indiana Jon

Ethier wouldn't have gotten to that ball.

2007-06-29 19:50:44

21. Greg Brock

Bench him.

2007-06-29 19:52:18

22. Sam in SC

the bunting thing again.

2007-06-29 19:52:35

23. Indiana Jon

Anyone think Loney and Kemp may be the best 7th and 8th place hitters in the National League? Or all of baseball for that matter.

2007-06-29 19:53:40

24. natepurcell

if JP gets thrown out Im going to do something bad to him.

2007-06-29 19:53:58

25. overkill94

Pierre getting on base vs. Young = SBs galore

2007-06-29 19:55:23

26. Andrew Shimmin

17- If only I had a sole or had been built on a cohesive unit.

2007-06-29 19:55:28

27. natepurcell

thanks juan, i didnt want to go jail either.

2007-06-29 19:55:38

28. Gen3Blue

Can Pierre be the first. No. He barely makes its.

2007-06-29 19:55:42

29. Vaudeville Villain

Yeah, probably.

BTW, The Padres are a perfect demonstration of how overrated the stolen base is.

2007-06-29 19:56:31

30. Sam in SC

he flat stole that base on the pitcher.

2007-06-29 19:56:42

31. Gen3Blue

This could upset Young, however.

2007-06-29 19:56:56

32. regfairfield

That has to be worth like six runs, all by itself.

2007-06-29 19:57:28

33. Sam in SC

I hate juan, but when he gets on base, things happen.

I just wish he got on base more often.

2007-06-29 19:57:38

34. Gen3Blue

Martin will probably go, he seems to be better than Pierre.

2007-06-29 19:59:42

35. JoeyP

Wow, that was almost a DP.

2007-06-29 20:01:49

36. Greg Brock

Track meet.

2007-06-29 20:02:03

37. Andrew Shimmin

6- Too late to take the over?

2007-06-29 20:02:08

38. Johnny Nucleo

That was a Juan Pierre Shining Moment. Slightly more common than a solar eclipse.

2007-06-29 20:02:14

39. Sam in SC

martin will be a 20/20 guy.

2007-06-29 20:02:26

40. Indiana Jon

6 Was that just for the 1st inning?

2007-06-29 20:03:16

41. Johnny Nucleo

26 Maybe he was calling Depo a fishmonger.

2007-06-29 20:04:18

42. The Rabbits Rarely Loose

Young's Record on the road seems to be one of those things with no real explanation .... I dont see any correlation to why he is so good.

2007-06-29 20:04:26

43. JoeyP

Gonzo is having a really good AB.

2007-06-29 20:05:10

44. overkill94

So if Young was any good at holding on runners, they'd be out of the inning by now because Kent's liner would have been a double play. Then again, if he wasn't Chris Young he would be some other scrub pitcher.

2007-06-29 20:05:37

45. Gen3Blue

Now that was probably a stressful inning for Young. Can we build on it? And get his pitch count up.

2007-06-29 20:05:40

46. The Rabbits Rarely Loose

still great AB

2007-06-29 20:06:19

47. JoeyP

Dang Gonzo ruined an otherwise great AB by check swining on some junk in the dirt.

2007-06-29 20:09:50

48. The Rabbits Rarely Loose

Not too many chances to say this so I will . . . .

Juan Pierre 1
Padres 0

2007-06-29 20:11:15

49. JoeyP

Kuo's command looks good so far tonight.
He's firing in strike after strike.

2007-06-29 20:12:56

50. Indiana Jon

Is the gun right? He looks to be throwing harder than 89.

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2007-06-29 20:13:16

51. The Rabbits Rarely Loose

that outside Pitch is being called a strike.... about half the time or I guess, whenever the Home plate Ump feels like it.

2007-06-29 20:14:03

52. scareduck

Pasta-diving Kemp.

2007-06-29 20:14:30

53. Sam in SC

misplayed.

heck.

2007-06-29 20:15:05

54. JoeyP

The Bison I think scared off Pierre from that ball.

2007-06-29 20:15:06

55. scareduck

48 - Juan Pierre 1, Padres 1

Corrected.

2007-06-29 20:15:50

56. Sam in SC

what has kuo got to do to get a strike?

2007-06-29 20:16:20

57. Andrew Shimmin

Did he get his glove on it before losing it, or did it bounce up off his chest?

2007-06-29 20:17:04

58. Sam in SC

I dislike the nickname "bison" for matt kemp.

it is just unimaginative.

2007-06-29 20:18:11

59. JoeyP

Pierre slowed down on the ball, it looked to me he was more worried about avoiding a collision with Kemp than catching the ball.
I dont think Kemp had much of a chance at it. It should have been Pierre's all the way.

2007-06-29 20:18:49

60. Indiana Jon

58 I don't care what we call him or how good our imagination is as long as he plays.

2007-06-29 20:19:04

61. The Rabbits Rarely Loose

Umpires like this do not bode well for the Dodgers and Kuo, he really needs to throw strikes to have success. . I guess a bit of bad luck

2007-06-29 20:19:06

62. scareduck

58 - I don't dislike it but I am curious as to its origin.

2007-06-29 20:20:27

63. Michael D

Bench Nomar.

2007-06-29 20:20:43

64. natepurcell

scouting report on nomar:

throw it down the middle.

2007-06-29 20:20:47

65. Sam in SC

62 - it was an alpha-commenter that coined the name. I forget who.

2007-06-29 20:21:27

66. JoeyP

At least bat him 8th.
He should not be hitting in front of Loney/Kemp.

2007-06-29 20:22:35

67. Greg Brock

65 Don Sutton called him a buffalo. Either Bob or D4P (I'm inclined to say Bob) called him a Bison.

2007-06-29 20:22:55

68. Sam in SC

perhaps he is from a school that has a bison as thier mascot?

2007-06-29 20:22:58

69. 3upn3down

58 thoughts on a creative alternative? What about Big Country due to his Oklahoma Roots.

2007-06-29 20:23:15

70. Michael D

Bah Kemp looked terrible there.

2007-06-29 20:23:33

71. Andrew Shimmin

67- It's tricky, because it was D4P who did the calling, on behalf of what he believed to be Bob's wishes. I'm just glad whoever tried to call him The Condor gave that up.

2007-06-29 20:23:35

72. Nagman

Fuentes is having a very bad week.

2007-06-29 20:23:45

73. Sam in SC

67 - I sit corrected.

2007-06-29 20:24:17

74. Yu-Hsing Chen

Kuo's pitch have been looking like it's faster than it reads for a couple of starts now, as long as it's missing bats it really doesn't matter what the numbers read

2007-06-29 20:24:53

75. Sam in SC

"kempster"

it's easy, and has no racial undertones.

2007-06-29 20:24:56

76. JoeyP

69--Does Bryant Reeves still have a patent on "big country"?

2007-06-29 20:25:47

77. Indiana Jon

69 Then he could use Big Country's "In a Big Country" when he came to the plate.

2007-06-29 20:26:16

78. Greg Brock

We could call him the Confabulous Fabtraption.

It's kind of wordy.

2007-06-29 20:26:58

79. natepurcell

it's easy, and has no racial undertones.

Bison doesn't either.

2007-06-29 20:27:28

80. Yu-Hsing Chen

Kuo = K you all

2007-06-29 20:27:31

81. Greg Brock

Bison has racial undertones?

2007-06-29 20:27:52

82. Indiana Jon

Can we just call him Pierre's Replacement? Has a nice ring to it.

2007-06-29 20:32:47

83. Yu-Hsing Chen

Now Kuo's turn to bat, hope for another bat flip!

2007-06-29 20:33:30

84. bhsportsguy

Its as if I'm not on vacation.

Stuck in a short delay, bar playing non-stop sportscenter.

But nice to have you all to spend the delay with.

And since I'm typing this, Brock, you can see what I decided to do.

2007-06-29 20:33:53

85. JoeyP

Kuo's at 58 pitches through 3ip.

2007-06-29 20:34:35

86. Greg Brock

84 Sometimes we own our possessions.

Sometimes our possessions own us.

2007-06-29 20:35:17

87. Sam in SC

79,81 - probably not.

2007-06-29 20:36:26

88. bhsportsguy

It's come in handy since I can use it to listen to the game and visit here too.

2007-06-29 20:36:53

89. Lexinthedena

How bout we call him The Big Tool Shed, on account of all of his tools?

Seriously...nick names arrive on their own....inspiration will arrive, and we'll be glad we waited...

2007-06-29 20:37:08

90. natepurcell

probably not? it doesn't. what in the word bison would imply racial undertones?

2007-06-29 20:37:14

91. overkill94

71 That was me, you got a problem widat?

I was just throwing out alternatives, I didn't start a marching and chowder society for it or anything, I just figured with us being in California and he having a long wingspan...oh forget it.

2007-06-29 20:37:57

92. Greg Brock

I'm not calling Matt Kemp a Big Tool. Sorry.

2007-06-29 20:38:50

93. JoeyP

Chris Young's defiance against holding on runners is kinda refreshing. He basically says he doesnt care about steals, and it hasnt effected his ERA at all.

2007-06-29 20:38:55

94. The Rabbits Rarely Loose

steal 3rd . . why wouldnt you?

2007-06-29 20:39:24

95. natepurcell

rabbits 2

padres 1

2007-06-29 20:39:40

96. overkill94

Are we witnessing another "glimmer of hope" game for Pierre?

2007-06-29 20:40:02

97. JoeyP

Juan Pierre game of the year!

2007-06-29 20:40:07

98. Yu-Hsing Chen

Wow, a single = a triple against this combo.

2007-06-29 20:40:11

99. overkill94

93 Well, except for tonight that is

2007-06-29 20:40:12

100. scareduck

1B + E7?

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2007-06-29 20:40:52

101. alex 7

three straight outside fastballs to Pierre. Is Barrett worried about another stolen base? Sure seems easier to hit when you get the same pitch 3 times in a row.

2007-06-29 20:40:57

102. Nagman

The rabbits may be getting into Young's head a bit.

2007-06-29 20:41:02

103. twerp

FWIW, the Dodgers could have a game pitched entirely by Asian pitchers.

Kguo goes 7, Tsao pitches the 8th, Saito closes. Two Taiwanese, even.

It'd work, in theory.

2007-06-29 20:41:11

104. Lexinthedena

92- Lol.....I guess that nick name was already taken by...(c'mon, the choices are endless)...

2007-06-29 20:41:23

105. Andrew Shimmin

Bison isn't listed in the Racial Slur Database; Buffalo soldier is. I've never heard that used as an epithet, but maybe I wouldn't have. Plain old Buffalo isn't listed.

2007-06-29 20:41:42

106. The Rabbits Rarely Loose

ok . . now, steal home . . right?

2007-06-29 20:42:23

107. scareduck

"The Dodgers have lifted his wallet, now they're working on his watch."

God bless you, Vinny.

2007-06-29 20:42:30

108. Greg Brock

en su cabeza, Chris Young.

2007-06-29 20:42:48

109. Lexinthedena

102- for real....looks like he's on the verge of a meltdown....

2007-06-29 20:42:49

110. bigcpa

Bison could be racial in the sense that you would not have called him Polar Bear.

2007-06-29 20:42:49

111. JoeyP

These umpires love to be confrontational.

2007-06-29 20:42:52

112. underdog

Maybe tonight we can give Pierre a get out of jail free card, a free pass - just for the evening.

2007-06-29 20:44:12

113. scareduck

111 - replacement umpires, apparently.

2007-06-29 20:44:16

114. bhsportsguy

Nate: Not sure you saw this, just reinforcing what is going on in the international signing part of the Dodger scouting department. Tony Jackson answered my query like this:

... As for the international guys, I'm sure they will be active. The Dodgers are trying to rebuild their Latin American program after it fell into decline the past few years, and Logan White is in the Dominican as we speak.

2007-06-29 20:45:05

115. alex 7

here we sit tonight debating Kemp's nickname, while Londoners were threatened with two car bombs tonight in a crowded night-life area. Here's to life's little pleasures.

2007-06-29 20:45:16

116. natepurcell

110

i would not have called him Polar Bear for the same reason i wouldn't call him wildebeest.

2007-06-29 20:45:38

117. scareduck

114 - I was very surprised when I learned that the Dodgers were cutting their presence in the Dominican under McCourt. That seemed counterproductive.

2007-06-29 20:45:59

118. JoeyP

Russ that was right down the middle!

2007-06-29 20:46:12

119. natepurcell

114

thanks, i did not catch that.

2007-06-29 20:47:06

120. jtrichey

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Chris Yound should be out of the game. Bud Black came out to talk to Young after the balk, left the mound to beef with ump a little bit, then went back to the mound to talk to Young some more. Didn't this happen to Little and Penny last year and Penny was forced out of the game? Little of all people should have spotted that and gotten Young out of this game.

2007-06-29 20:47:22

121. Andrew Shimmin

110- I'm pretty sure the Russians just laid claim to all the polar bears in the world. They lay one red finger on Kemp and there'll be a Rocky VII that's less placatory than Rocky V was, boy howdy.

2007-06-29 20:47:47

122. jtrichey

Martin has been failing occasionally with that runner on 3rd and less than 2 out. For shame Russ.

2007-06-29 20:47:51

123. Lexinthedena

Bison is not even close to racial....it's just not that cool of a nickname...seriously...

I'm all for old timey nicknames...like SPlendid Splinter, Sultan Of Swat....Oil Can even...

2007-06-29 20:48:28

124. Jon Weisman

Bison is unimaginative, so we go with ... Kempster?

I think the word "imaginative" can feel sufficiently insulted.

2007-06-29 20:50:13

125. bhsportsguy

124 Where do we stand on the additional tickets?

2007-06-29 20:50:41

126. twerp

To go with 103, witness the sheer genius of Tommy Lasorda=

"For starting pitchers we have two Dominicans, one Italian, one Mexican and one Japanese. In the bullpen we have a Venezuelan, a Mexican, a guy from the United States and a guy from St. Louis." - Los Angeles Dodger / Hall of Fame Manager Tommy Lasorda (AP Wire, 08/18/1999)

2007-06-29 20:51:07

127. Telemachos

I happen to think Bison's an awesome nickname.

Anyone remember Russelldinho? :)

2007-06-29 20:51:55

128. overkill94

122 Vin has jinxed him twice in a row with the whole "Russell is amazing at getting that runner home from third with less than two outs" followed by a Martin strikeout

2007-06-29 20:52:24

129. overkill94

Are you serious Loney?

2007-06-29 20:52:56

130. Lexinthedena

Uhhh.....James?

2007-06-29 20:53:02

131. natepurcell

holy crap where was that throw going.

2007-06-29 20:53:02

132. JoeyP

James what were you thinking?

2007-06-29 20:53:08

133. scareduck

Loney is going to get a tonguelashing from Kent when this inning is over. Did you see him shake his head?

2007-06-29 20:53:22

134. Andrew Shimmin

Let us all pray that whatever demon just took hold of his body will leave Loney alone from here on out.

2007-06-29 20:53:38

135. Jon Weisman

125 - I think about four. I set a Sunday deadline.

2007-06-29 20:54:12

136. Lexinthedena

Speaking of nicknames....are folks in San Diego down with the obvious nickname of Spricolli for Khalil Green?

2007-06-29 20:55:30

137. regfairfield

124 Sounds too similar to "Redempster".

2007-06-29 20:55:46

138. scareduck

136 - wasn't that already used for Jeff Weaver?

2007-06-29 20:56:11

139. JoeyP

Holding Barrett might have been a mistake, given Kuo's penchant for getting Ks.

2007-06-29 20:56:53

140. bigcpa

Loney will now have a reputation as a defensive liability for at least a year.

2007-06-29 20:56:54

141. bigcpa

Loney will now have a reputation as a defensive liability for at least a year.

2007-06-29 20:57:31

142. natepurcell

okay im gunna go to the bars.

2007-06-29 20:57:53

143. Gagne55

Seems like all Kuo has been good at lately is giving up base hits. sigh

2007-06-29 20:58:02

144. JoeyP

Opposite field geez.

2007-06-29 20:58:24

145. overkill94

Between the struggles of Kuo and Billingsley since they've been inserted in the rotation, it seems almost definite that we'll make a trade for a starter

2007-06-29 20:58:46

146. Lexinthedena

Kuo got squeezed today....mmust also be tipping his pitches...

2007-06-29 20:59:54

147. Nagman

The San Diego announcer just referred to Kouzmanoff as the "Mashing Macedonian".

2007-06-29 21:00:12

148. Gagne55

145 I would be nice to have a guy like Jason Schmidt in the rotation. Oh yeah, thats right :(.

2007-06-29 21:00:50

149. Uncle Miltie

Why not bring in BJ here? At least he can eat up some innings.

2007-06-29 21:02:08

150. Lexinthedena

147- That's what I'm talking about.....

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