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2) personally attacking other commenters
3) baiting other commenters
4) arguing for the sake of arguing
5) discussing politics
6) using hyperbole when something less will suffice
7) using sarcasm in a way that can be misinterpreted negatively
8) making the same point over and over again
9) typing "no-hitter" or "perfect game" to describe either in progress
10) being annoyed by the existence of this list
11) commenting under the obvious influence
12) claiming your opinion isn't allowed when it's just being disagreed with
In the run-up to Saturday's Dodger Thoughts Day at Dodger Stadium, I honestly just about forgot why I picked July 21 in the first place: It's the fifth anniversary of Dodger Thoughts. (My old blogger site doesn't look like it used to. Who remembers the lavender days?)
Thursday night, before I recollected this, I was watching the series finale of The Larry Sanders Show, in which the show-within-a-show celebrated its 10th and final year on the air. And I was thinking, "Ten years well, that's something, but it's not really that much, is it?"
Then this morning I remembered my own anniversary, and I suddenly thought, 10 years that's a lot. Because five certainly feels like something.
I can't believe it's been five years. I can't believe I've been doing this longer than I was in college. I can barely remember what life felt like when I started doing this: no children yet, career all but at a dead end. The passion for the Dodgers was always there, but Dodger Thoughts itself arose out of a boredom and frustration that only my wife was really mitigating.
Nothing like that now. I'm now two kids to the wind, at a different job that is both satisfying yet also hungrifying. Each year, it seems, time becomes more at a premium. But I just keep wanting to write about the Dodgers.
Though there are some topics that I don't cover as much as I used to or as I wish to, particularly the minor leaguers, I find that when friends or relatives ask how often I post on Dodger Thoughts, I purposely undercut my actual output. I'm a bit embarrassed by it. Of course, some of my posts are very short, so even saying that I post X times a week is somewhat meaningless (even my own stats need park factors), but it's not too much of an exaggeration to say that Dodger Thoughts is an addiction.
It's interesting to reread my first, one-sentence post (which the headline above plays off of). It's fairly negative, or at least downbeat. That's in large part a product of the moment in which it was written: The team was in the midst of losing 11 out of 13 games. But I find that five years later, even when things are down, I do a lot less venting. When things go wrong, I feel less angry or if I get angry, it doesn't linger as long. As obsessed as I clearly am about the Dodgers, over the past five years I've put them in better perspective. Kind of an interesting contradiction, I find. As messed up as the team can be at times, I haven't figured out how not to be a Dodger fan.
Of course, over the course of the five years commenters arrived, and you have taken on much of the burden for me when it comes to rising and falling with the team. In some ways, your worry means that I don't have to. And I've learned a lot.
I often think about what I could be doing with my time if I weren't doing Dodger Thoughts or following the Dodgers at all, for that matter. Combine the watching, reading and writing, and we're talking hours upon hours a week. That's a lot of time to be spent on something that matters not at all, when time in my life is at a premium. There must be a lot of joy there somewhere. But is it morally wrong somehow?
In any case, through the years, many of you have kindly thanked me for what I have written, and I appreciate every note. I really do. In fact, I wish I were a little more secure so that I didn't need to appreciate it so much. (It's good, therefore, to check out the missives from people who wish I had never started the site.) But you should fundamentally understand that any time you have read what I've written, you're the ones who have been indulging me. The thanks really go from me to you.
Tomorrow, I'll be at the ballpark with some of you. I still haven't decided if I'm going to wear my Dodger Thoughts shirt my gut keeps telling me that we should leave the shirts at home and look as little as possible like a tour group in Branson but I'll try not to think about it too much. More than anything else and this cuts to the heart of why I do this site I'll just be hoping, like I hope 162 times a year, that the Dodgers win.
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This is a perfect moment to announce that Dodger Thoughts commenter ToyCannon has become a co-blogger at True Blue L.A.. Welcome to the program, TC.
Time flies when you're having fun. Your work speaks for itself.
Thanks, Jon.
You had me with 9/11/1983.
I am torn about wearing the DT Blue shirt only because it hasn't been witness to a win by the home team yet. It will be just too hot to wear the white long-sleeved variety.
Thanks and congrats on the 5 year anniversary of DT.
But then again, your gut may be very hungry...
And congrats to TC.
By the way, for perspective, when this site started, I was just married and in my first, highly insecure job right after college. I used to post under the moniker jim tracy. Now I'm married almost six years, about to have my second child, my own house and a steady, semi-successful job. I'm glad to see Dodger Thoughts has grown up with me. Thanks.
And this became ten times worse when DePo was hired.
Paul DePodesta was the only person in the world that I wanted to be the Dodgers GM. I woke up everyday that summer hoping to turn on ESPNews and seeing Paul DePodesta hired as Dodgers GM. It finally happened. I was ecstatic. But overtime I grew so frustrated with my fellow posters. I contemplated making my own blog. I had no idea how to make a blog, I was no expert in saber-metrics even if I believed in them, and I pretty much have forgotten everything I learned in school when it comes to writing. Thankfully, the infamous Oldbear suggested DodgerThoughts to me.
I immediately started to fall in love with DT, without even realizing it was the same site that I had visited before. I soon felt comfortable enough with the friendly atmosphere to post. I quickly learned in my first post that: swearing is not allowed, Jon is a forgiving man, and that the posters here make you feel welcomed. I am extremely thankful this site exists. I probably would have made a site that is a fraction of the quality of this site. Sure, this site just adds to me wasting a large chunk of my life being devoted to sports, but I love it. Fanerman's quote says it all.
My name is sushirabbit and I am a DodgerThoughts fan. Here in Nashville, I'll be wearing my shirt in solidarity .
I hope this never ceases.
Dodger Thoughts is an addiction
Indeed!
Thank you for the five years. I have been reading for four of them and cannot put to words how much I cherish this place. Dodger Thoughts has educated me on the game of baseball, the Dodgers, and life.
And then changing the channel back.
Now, I don't feel all alone.
I'd also like to thank the regular posters here. All you guys have made basbeall so much more enjoyable for me with your insights.
Jon you do a heck of a job in keeping a level head and it has rubbed off on me.
And don't worry, I am addicted too.
Wait, I still am that person.
You'll be the belle of the ball tomorrow I'm sure.
I'm hitting the liberry to meet the legend at some point.
vr, Xei
I can't wait to see what more of my fellow posters look like.
Especially you Brock, especially you.
The mystery of Greg Brock will be revealed!
Sorry I can't make the outing tomorrow. Turns out my son and DT share the same birthday. Which is why, he'll explain to his friends, that his middle name is Toaster.
I'm rather unimpressive. I probably won't say ten words the whole time. Social anxiety is a bit of pain.
I just want a bench-clearing brawl at the game. That's all I ask. And a win. A bench-clearing brawl, a win, and a Dodger Dog. That's all I ask.
I hope there's not an opossum at the library tomorrow, although it wouldn't surprise me. I think I comment more on skunks than opossums. Skunks are my mortal enemies.
15 You are not the only one.
I found my way to DT during the chaotic days of DePodesta's LoDuca-Penny trade, and although I don't post very much I do check in on the site nearly every day. The one thing I will say is that even if we are all wasting our time following this infuriating game, and the even more infuriating Dodgers, when we should be out fixing the world, this is undoubtedly the best site to waste that time. I've visited a handful of the other Dodger oriented sites, and even though I am a bit of a ranting, foul mouthed guy myself, I grow tired of all of the ridiculous obscenity-laced tirades very quickly. For me, the best part of DT is that I can fade away from time to time, and come back after a week and find the same insightful analysis and witty banter that was here when I left. For you, I would imagine it could become more of a grind, since you gave birth to this little monster you must feel some responsibility in maintaining it as an enjoyable destination, and that's the part that I don't envy - the policing necessary to keep things at a level acceptable to you.
Thanks for all of your efforts Jon. And here's my new DT mantra - I may be wasting my time but I am wasting it at the best of places in the best of company.
Hopefully, I will have a car next year so I can go to the next meeting.
Would some pre-game "silliness" help decrease your inhibitions...?
For example:
Greg Brock is assigned "Brett Cookson."
Greg Brock will ask "Was I an infielder?"
Hallux Valgus will reply, "Beats me. I've never heard of you."
It's a great icebreaker.
Either that or a key party.
Jon, it's a joy to have this site with all these fellow fanatics. Thanks.
When i first read that last line, I thought Bob was advocating a keg party...which is an event I fully endorse.
That one made me grin. Put me down for a GOL.
Thanks so much for creating this spot, Jon. I read daily, even when I should be doing other things.
As an anniversary present, I'm sending another donation, and I hope others who love your site as I do will follow suit.
Let's give the man some Dodger Dog funds for the game!
thats a possibility but I think Kent will play for the Dodgers in 2008.
A) I will be sad inside, knowing I am missing the DT day at Chavez and
B) That I will be sad once again on Friday night when I miss my softball double-header
Furcal, SS
Pierre, CF
Martin, C
Kent, 2B
Gonzo, LF
Nomar, 3B
Loney, 1B
Kemp, RF
Tomko, P
Is that now allowed or not possible?
Consider: Keg, or five Dodger beers. Same cost, one provides far more value.
That is so weak. That is all people do up here before games in Oakland.
It might be dangerous to allow open tailgating to some of the Dodger fans out there. The beer in the stadium gets them riled up as is.
I'm also a bit nervous about tomorrow. As a latecomer (I've been here about two years) I've always kinda pictured the rest of you regulars as the cool kids and me as the, uh ...not-so-cool kid. Thanks for letting me come to your party.
Who's buyin'?
I was just thinking how crazy it is that when Jon announced that we would celebrate DT day it was over a month ago and Loney had not even been called up yet and Schmidt wasn't done for the year yet (technically). My how quickly things change.
Even though I don't post nearly as much as I used to, I still read every day. I can't say thank you enough to Jon for providing such a wonderful place to discuss the Dodgers.
See you all tomorrow.
37ip, 27k, 5bb, 3.88 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, 4 QS
the same could be said for Betemit. For a team that lacks as much power as the Dodgers do, I think it would be foolish to trade one of the few power sources this team has in Betemit. Although if they don't play him, then I guess its a moot point.
vr, Xei
I've worked shoulder-to-shoulder and laptop-to-laptop with every writer in town. And I feel confident in saying that if there were only one place to get Dodgers news, Dodger Thoughts would be it.
Jon, thank you for the exceptional job you do. Please keep up the great work and congratulations on your anniversary.
I wish I could could have made it to the game tomorrow. I wouldn't worry about being nervous about it. We're all one big dysfunctional family that almost never sees each other. I'm sure you'll all get through it. You have my support. Strength and honor.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
http://tinyurl.com/yvdnly
This is crazy, but I only just remembered I need to buy a parking ticket, and I can't find anywhere on dodgers.com parking or tickets sites that lets me do so. The one time I bought my own ticket, I was able to buy a parking ticket as part of the same transaction. I've tried following the Single Day Tickets path but see no way to get only a parking ticket without another seat ticket.
Am I dong something wrong, or is there no way to buy an advanced parking ticket through ticketFast? Just turn up and get in a long line? Weirdly, there's no info anywhere on the dodgers site that I can find about even this.
Help, please?
Hopefully I don't jinx it so he throws a shutout or anything.
Just get in line and pay $15 at the gate.
Oh man, I got Jorge Sosa on my fantasy team....!
This is exactly it. Grace ... The closest I can put my admiration for this site is that Dodger Thoughts is the Vin Scully of baseball blogs.
( Is there a Rick Monday of blogs? )
So much tasty goodness!
This site has meant so much to me the past few years. I've read it everyday and feel like I'm going to meet friends tomorrow even though none of you know who I am even by moniker. But the point is-- you've done something special here Jon. You've made something where there was nothing that has had a direct influence on many of our lives. Thank you!
The D-Rays Bay group must be angry!
(Two posts in one month!)
It's really hard to read a book between innings at a baseball game. I've tried it.
From one of Jon's first posts:
"And I figure, occasionally, someone else might read this. My brother or sister. An indulgent friend. I don't know - someone. I'm not sure it matters."
:)
And the Yankees sent up Jeter, Abreu, and Rodriguez.
This could be Edwin's night!
https://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/413023.html
Now this here blog had took place in the early/mid '00s - just about the time of our conflict with Sad'm and the I-raqis. I only mention it because sometimes there's a man... I won't say a hero, 'cause, what's a hero? Sometimes, there's a man. And I'm talkin' about the Philosopher King here - the PK from Los Angeles. Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. And that's the Philosopher King. From Los Angeles. And even if he's a Dodgers man - and the PK was most certainly that. Quite possibly the most loyal Dodger man in all of Los Angeles County, which would place him high in the runnin' for most loyal Dodger man worldwide. Sometimes there's a man, sometimes, there's a man. Well, I lost my train of thought here. But... aw, hell. I've done introduced it enough. It's Dodger Thoughts.
Nothing of real note, now that Meloan is in Vegas, Ned expects to see him up in LA before the season is over. Broxton had a real short stop in Vegas (about a month) so I would expect something to happen soon.
Ned said that if the market doesn't change from what is out there today, don't expect a lot moves from anybody.
Guys no longer prospects:
Russell
Andre
Chad
Broxton
Guys who will lose their prospect status soon:
Loney
Kemp
What Ned means by that is that in his mind once you lose the prospect label, you become a regular player or pitche as the case may be. How that effects your trade status is a question he did not answer but it does seem to be an important distinction to him.
And a shout out to those who knew who Russell Martin was before he was called up last May. When asked if he could deal a hypothetical popular player, Ned said that usually performance determines popularity. Sure Martin is popular today but how many people knew who he was before last May.
Only if you followed the organization closely, would you have known anything about Russell Martin.
Ned, you are talking to us man.
Game thread opening in about 10 minutes. There, LAT, I warned you.
You mean there are going to be polygamists in attendance?
103 Reading while trying to get out of the parking lot after the game might be more productive. ;)
And he is concerned about Nomar (and Tomko, etc.) but he is giving Nomar the benefit of the doubt for now, but he sounded genuinely concerned about Nomar's lack of production.
Oh, and you can count me in as a fellow reclusive introvert. We seem to have a theme going here.
Have fun at the game.
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