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Saito Not Quite Convinced
2007-07-24 09:29
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Though the MRI on his shoulder was negative (that's good news, George Costanza and Michael Scott), Dodger reliever Takashi Saito told Dylan Hernandez of the Times he "wasn't completely convinced his shoulder problems were behind him."

When he had back trouble in Japan, he said, he underwent similar exams that revealed nothing.

"I still haven't played catch," Saito said. "Doctors are telling me I'm fine and I'm sure they're fine doctors. But I need to throw first, then throw in a few games in a row and feel nothing to convince myself I'm fine. Doubts will remain until then.

"That being said, it's emotionally relieving to be told by doctors that I'm fine."

Saito said he would play catch today and would make himself available to close if he wasn't hurting. But he also said that pain was no longer his only obstacle.

"I've been out for five days, so I've lost my feeling for the mound," he said. "I'm hoping I can get back in the relatively near future."

The good news is that the MRI showed no structural shoulder damange. And, according to Hernandez, Dodger trainer Stan Conte "added that spine specialist Dr. William Dillin also checked Saito and found nothing abnormal."

But the article left us with this apparent contradiction:

From the first paragraph: "Takashi Saito said he isn't certain he'll be able to pitch again without pain."

From the eighth paragraph: "Conte said Saito would be held out until he is completely pain-free."

So the coming days remain important. Conte expects the pain to go away. Saito isn't saying it won't, but apparently he'll only believe it when the pain does go - and stays gone.

* * *

At Baseball Analysts, Rich Lederer reports on the exciting induction weekend for the Baseball Reliquary's Shrine of the Eternals. What an experience he had.

Comments (165)
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2007-07-24 09:49:42
1.   bryanf
What a refreshing change! A player actually being more cautious than the doctors. It's like he actually knows his body. Inconceivable!
2007-07-24 09:50:31
2.   bryanf
Shouldn't they just put him on the DL retroactively and call up Meloan to give him a look?
2007-07-24 09:52:20
3.   fanerman
What?! He's not pitching through the pain, even though he may be only 30% as effective? He has no heart! He has no soul! I say we cut him from the team.
2007-07-24 09:52:57
4.   Bumsrap
I will guess that it is 50 50 that Saito will finish the year as the Dodger closer. Even with that thought, I wouldn't make a trade for oft injured Dotel. I would prefer a Meloan Broxton team for the 8th and 9th innings.
2007-07-24 10:01:04
5.   Vishal
[1] hah, you took the words right out of my mouth. it's nice to see an athlete being proactive about his injuries so that he can help the club in the long term by being fully recovered rather than letting it become worse and causing other injuries. i'm so glad he's not a)pitching through the pain b)hiding the injury and c)altering his mechanics to get around the pain, purely out of macho bullheadedness. hopefully by being cautious he'll be completely and healthy for the stretch run and playoffs.
2007-07-24 10:03:40
6.   Disabled List
1 We've officially come full circle on this. We've been so burned by players wrecking themselves by playing in pain (Eric Gagne, Shawn Green, etc.), that now we applaud behavior that we used to deride as malingering.
2007-07-24 10:04:28
7.   Bumsrap
Teixeira apparently is still a rumor. But with Nomar beginning to hit and Loney doing so well at first, a Tiexiera rental seems less likely. I would prefer Tiexiera at third if he did come to the Dodgers.

I like the idea of a team full of young Dodgers that will play together for a long time so I want to keep Hu and Abreu and play them as soon as next year. A team of Martin, Loney, Kemp, Abreu, Hu, Ethier could use a Tiexiera in the lineup along with another veteran not named Peirre, Nomar, Kent, Gonzo in 2008. I still can't get behind LaRoche.

2007-07-24 10:10:03
8.   Greg Brock
7 What is it about LaRoche that you don't like?
2007-07-24 10:11:26
9.   bryanf
7 You can't get behind LaRoche but you can get behind Abreu and Hu? What can't you get behind about LaRoche? How is he worse off than Abreu and Hu?
2007-07-24 10:12:27
10.   Bumsrap
Loney's approach to hitting reminds me of Tommy Davis in his two year prime. Davis said he always looked to drive the ball up the middle and adjust to the allys based on pitch location.

The Houston announcers last night, who were pretty good, said Gonzo was a line drive gap hitter until he learned to pull the ball or decided to pull the ball which led to many more homeruns.

2007-07-24 10:14:19
11.   dzzrtRatt
Apart from Chad's great performance, last night was Proven Veteran's night at the ballgame, with Kent's hitting prowess snd with Gonzalez and Nomar making the most dazzling defensive plays.

Doesn't Saito talk like he's a 100-year-old wise man from Mt. Fuji? Also, a little bit like Vito Corleone as portrayed by Marlon Brando.

2007-07-24 10:14:45
12.   FirstMohican
"I still can't get behind LaRoche."

Should he walk less, or hit less home runs?

2007-07-24 10:15:00
13.   Bumsrap
8,9 - It is an intuitive thing and not a statistical or mechanics thing. I just seem to trust my radar on players and it seems like I have been right much more than I have been wrong.
2007-07-24 10:16:26
14.   Penarol1916
11. You don't count Loney's home run?
2007-07-24 10:19:42
15.   Bumsrap
Hu is the weakest on my intuitive radar and Loney of the current crop of prospects has been consistently the strongest. Abreu is strong as well. I can't tell if Kemp is on my intuitive radar or not. He might just be so good that he is well beyond intuition and has become a favorite of mine because of his tools and demeanor.
2007-07-24 10:22:39
16.   Bob Timmermann
Japanese always sounds odd when translated into English. Every phrase has some language that sounds like the speaker is hedging.

Do you remember watchin "Iron Chef" when every intro started "If memory serves me right ..."

2007-07-24 10:23:37
17.   dkminnick
2 - That's exactly right, Bryan. Why is it so obvious to us and not the team?

If we have to trade someone my vote is to make it Abreu, not Hu. Abreu and Delwyn Young for Gagne?

2007-07-24 10:25:25
18.   Bumsrap
12 - Other than I don't think LaRoche can get his bat within 3 inches of an upper out strike I don't know why I intuitively don't think he will be a good or great Dodger.
2007-07-24 10:29:39
19.   overkill94
Thanks to everyone who attempted to explain conversion rates to me in the last thread. Turns out it was pounds instead of euros, who know?
2007-07-24 10:29:52
20.   Jacob L
I wish we had a team of Jedi Knights to scout and evaluate talent.

Kemp must unlearn what he has learned.

Loney should trust in his feelings.

LaRoche? Always away he looked. Never his mind on where he was. What he was doing. Excitement? Hmm. Adventure? Hmm. A major league third baseman crave not these things.

2007-07-24 10:30:08
21.   overkill94
*who knew? Now it sounds like they're translating me into Japanese.
2007-07-24 10:38:27
22.   dzzrtRatt
14 In my mind, Loney, Ethier, Kemp and Martin have been carrying the team lately, and I expect that to continue.

It was just kind of satisfying to see, for one game, the three Old Guys all do something great. Since the start of the season, I can't remember a time when all three were on the upswing. The Dodgers could pull away from the rest of the division if this keeps up. Eventually, the lack of run support is going to wear out San Diego's pitching. There's some evidence that's already happening.

2007-07-24 10:45:34
23.   Dodgers49
An article on Grady Little and his morning bike rides:

>>> Little swings a leg over his Yamaha Stratoliner, a gift from Juan Pierre in exchange for his No. 9 jersey, and begins a drive in which he almost always winds up lost. And that's just the way he likes it. <<<

http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/ci_6447771

2007-07-24 10:46:09
24.   bhsportsguy
LaRoche's last year and a half AA/AAA
579 AB/195 hits/42 doubles/2 triples/ 31 home runs/91 BB/89 K

.338/.427/.577 - 1.04 OPS

If he's not busting down the door, he's at least pushing it ajar.

2007-07-24 10:48:12
25.   Robert Daeley
16 Allez Cuisine! Which isn't proper French either. :)
2007-07-24 10:54:08
26.   bryanf
Anybody have any good questions ready for Martin's online chat today?
2007-07-24 10:55:54
27.   Hythloday
26 - Howabout: When you became a golden god did they give you a key to the executive washroom?
2007-07-24 11:02:04
28.   Dodgers49
New safety measures wouldn't go over well after death on field

>>> Craig Grebeck and Steve Yeager know they are in the line of fire when they step on a baseball field. But the field coaches don't think additional safety measures are needed, even after a minor league peer was struck and killed by a foul ball during a game Sunday. <<<

http://www.dailybreeze.com/sports/articles/8676917.html

2007-07-24 11:03:41
29.   NorCalDodger
By the way, how do you guys link to previous comments?
2007-07-24 11:05:54
30.   fanerman
29 <-- You mean that?
You just put brackets around the number.

[ 29 ] (without the spaces)

2007-07-24 11:07:12
31.   NorCalDodger
30 Thanks
2007-07-24 11:16:19
32.   Daniel Zappala
I agree it is nice to see a Dodger who is careful about not pitching when hurt. Also, I noticed that the Angels, not the Dodgers, have been hot in pursuit of Teixeira. They wanted to do an exchange of Santana and Kotchman, which would be good for both sides, except Santana regressed badly this year. Kotchman holds the same favor for me that Loney does for many of you, so it would be sad to see him go, but it would also make the Angels a better team this year.
2007-07-24 11:24:09
33.   Greg Brock
If base coaches don't want to wear helmets, don't make them. I think they should, but if they're afraid of looking like wimps with helmets, so be it. It's your life.

But I won't pity another base coach when it happens.

2007-07-24 11:33:06
34.   Rich Lederer
Thanks, Jon. I missed you on Sunday but realize you had a big day of your own on Saturday. Clay was there. We chatted for a couple of minutes after the event. I'll consider him the proxy for all things DT.
2007-07-24 11:36:41
35.   Robert Daeley
In case anyone's interested, Clayton Kershaw is pitching for the Loons today at the Beloit Snappers, and it's available right now for free on MiLB audio. Bottom of the 4th, tied 2-2.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/multimedia/audio.jsp

2007-07-24 11:50:43
36.   Robert Daeley
35 Of course as soon as I post that, they take him out due to high pitch count. :) Ah, well -- Loons now winning 5-2 in the 5th.
2007-07-24 11:52:02
37.   gpellamjr
33 I'm sure the people who are afraid to look like wimps will be really sad to know that you don't pity them.
2007-07-24 11:56:39
38.   Greg Brock
37 Just saying my piece.

And oh, cycling is a mess.

2007-07-24 12:00:22
39.   Jon Weisman
Lieberthal is starting today, per the Dodger press notes.
2007-07-24 12:04:24
40.   gpellamjr
39 My impression is that Lieberthal is probably the 2nd best back-up catcher in the league (behind Saltalamachia, maybe?). Am I wrong?

When he was signed, I was stoked that we would have someone who could still be an excellent starting catcher as our back up. I love Martin, but I think Lieberthal is still good enough that the team wouldn't take too big a hit if he starts.

2007-07-24 12:09:40
41.   bhsportsguy
40 I think that is hard to say because Lieberhal just doesn't play enough.

Just off the top of my head, Salty, Barrett or Bard, are two examples and there may be a few others. In terms of quality of play, Lieberthal doesn't hurt you but because Martin is such an integral part of the lineup, I think there is recognizable differecne when Martin doesn't play than almost any other catcher in the Majors except for maybe Posada.

39 I guess participating in a chat session really takes a lot out of you.

2007-07-24 12:17:47
42.   Hythloday
41 - Barajas and Piazza could be added to the list I suppose. But I agree with you. We can't really evaluate how good Lieberthal is this year when he starts once every two weeks.
2007-07-24 12:24:18
43.   fanerman
41 If Lieberthal is so good (and I don't doubt that he is), he should start a bit more often. Martin's innings sure are piling up.
2007-07-24 12:25:23
44.   Jon Weisman
Maybe Martin is the best backup catcher in baseball, and Little is just really good resting his starter, Lieberthal.
2007-07-24 12:42:26
45.   Jon Weisman
Just FYI: The well-rested Lieberthal has one extra-base hits and a .300 slugging percentage in 50 at-bats.
2007-07-24 12:48:17
46.   berkowit28
Lieberthal is an excellent catcher defensively, but no substitute (normally) for Martin as a batter, since Martin is one of the stalwarts of the offense. Since Martin is currently in something of a hitting slump (he picked the right time, when everyone else is hitting so well) it's a good time to substitute Lieberthal. There are so many good bats out there, we just need Lieberthal as a catcher - many teams "excuse" the catcher and even the shortstop from equaling their teammates' offense. Any hits Lieberthal provides will be a bonus.

Probably Martin should be given 3 days or so off in a row to get himself together. He never really got an all star break and has been going all out since spring training in March. On the other hand, Kemp could do with being played 3 days in a row. Continually alternating Kemp and Ethier almost every day doesn't let either of them really get into a groove, and Kemp needs the experience of playing every day, recouping errors (getting things right the second time), and so on. But that will only happen if Pierre is given the occasional day off - they can't sit Gonzales down every second day. I suppose it's a good sort of problem when you have too many players playing well for the same few positions.

2007-07-24 12:54:08
47.   bigcpa
Matt Kemp could catch a 13 inning game and pick 4 runners off first from the crouch position.
2007-07-24 12:57:46
48.   Jon Weisman
Martin's last day off came only a week ago, July 17. Since then, he has gone 1 for 4, 1 for 6, 1 for 4, 0 for 4, 0 for 5, 1 for 5.

While I agree in general with the idea that catchers need rest, people have to remember that slumps are going to come no matter how much you rest a player.

2007-07-24 13:03:26
49.   underdog
I agree with Jon, above, and also like that Lieberthal is starting today. Martin's hard to replace, and he's going to have his slumps no matter what, but he still needs a break now and then. Now's as good a time as any. What does seem to be a drop off when Lieberthal comes in vs. Martin is the pitchers' ERA (I looked it up awhile back but maybe I'm wrong?) I don't know if that's a coincidence or if Martin really does do a better job of working with pitchers. Anyway, I'm still glad he's getting a break today.
2007-07-24 13:03:39
50.   El Lay Dave
47 ... then catch the second game of the doubleheader as well. For both teams.
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2007-07-24 13:08:10
51.   NBowlin
This is only the 2nd time I have posted anything, but an interesting article under Phillesflow.com has the Dodgers with the best percantage in regards to PA and strikeouts.

http://www.philliesflow.com/#072407

The Dallas newswriters sure do seem like they are doing everything possibile to get rid of Texeria.

Oh and greetings from Baghdad...I am a Marine Captain living the dream here in beautiful Iraq....Go Dodgers!

2007-07-24 13:10:38
52.   trainwreck
51
ESPN says the Rangers are determined to trade Teixeira.

Please, stay safe!

2007-07-24 13:12:35
53.   El Lay Dave
51 I wish for you, Captain, a safe return. I hope Jon's blog and our comments here provide you some small diversion and some small connection to home.
2007-07-24 13:12:49
54.   Hythloday
47 - If you drop a phonograph needle on his nipple does it play Pet Sounds?
2007-07-24 13:15:51
55.   dzzrtRatt
51 Wow, what an honor to have you with us.

And what a great thing this technology is, to allow us to talk to you, and you to talk to us, in real time.

So how's the surge going? Is Petraeus a better manager than Grady Little?

2007-07-24 13:16:03
56.   fanerman
54 It depends on what mood he's in.
2007-07-24 13:17:26
57.   fanerman
54 That's one of the most bizarre facts I've ever heard.
2007-07-24 13:18:50
58.   underdog
51/53 - What Dave said. Welcome, and be safe. May you join the gang for next year's DodgerThoughts outing.
2007-07-24 13:19:11
59.   bigcpa
54 Indeed, with the other nipple for volume.
2007-07-24 13:19:13
60.   Vishal
serious lols today guys. keep up the good work :)
2007-07-24 13:19:38
61.   Hythloday
57 - I can't take credit for it:

http://tinyurl.com/6pk26

2007-07-24 13:20:17
62.   bigcpa
A rumor of a rumor from Will Carroll:

One consistently good source tells me that he thinks the Dodgers are "close" on a deal. Most think that the Dodgers have the inside track on Octavio Dotel, but that's not as close as the deal this source thinks is about to happen. "I don't know names or even positions, so take that for what it's worth, but the guys I talk to over there [in the L.A. front office] know that when Ned [Colletti] shuts them out, it's close," he says.

2007-07-24 13:24:04
63.   El Lay Dave
7 Teixeira appeared in 15 games at 3B for Texas in '03 and none since (10 PO, 20 A, 7 E). He did play 3B in the his only minor league season the year before - 21 E in 85 games. Throwing him into 3B in the middle of a pennant race would be a bold and risky move.
2007-07-24 13:25:03
64.   underdog
So it's not a deal for Dotel? But surely must be a pitcher. We can only hazard guesses at this point, and cross our fingers and hold our breath.
2007-07-24 13:25:08
65.   NBowlin
51, 53: Thank you...and this blog is quite enjoyable to read, the only reason I mention anything about where I was is because I often read comments about Dodger fans being spread throughout the world.

I am off to bed, but I wish everyone well and hope that our offense continues to be as potent as it has been and that Brett Tomko keeps stringing up goose eggs.

2007-07-24 13:29:01
66.   Jacob L
62 Wow, that is cryptic. Ned has gone into the basement. Repeat. Ned has gone into the basement.

65 Good luck to you, Captain.

2007-07-24 13:30:09
67.   bigcpa
66 This is where Bob says "when white smoke emerges from the stadium chimney we will have acquired Ian Snell."
2007-07-24 13:31:05
68.   trainwreck
Please be Snell for Ethier and a prospect. Please be Snell for Ethier and a prospect.
2007-07-24 13:31:56
69.   Jon Weisman
51 - Welcome, and all the best, Cap'n.
2007-07-24 13:33:56
70.   Humma Kavula
68 Yes. Macht Snell!

51 Take care, Captain.

2007-07-24 13:34:12
71.   fanerman
51 Welcome and best of luck, too.

I have some degree of hope that Ned won't do anything silly.

2007-07-24 13:34:50
72.   bigcpa
Snell pitches tonight. I hope Tracy has a replacement on hand.
2007-07-24 13:36:13
73.   Humma Kavula
72 "Will I have Snell throw 175 pitches tonight, just out of spite? Maybe."
2007-07-24 13:36:51
74.   bhsportsguy
65 Be safe and thank you for your service.

Some guys that might be on the moving list.
Pitchers
Mike MeGrew (40 man)
Zach Hammes (40 man)
Greg Miller (yes, his value still high if healthy) (40 man)
Justin Orenduff (last year before need to be added to 40 man)
Corey Wade (intriguing prospect, I think)

Position Players
Delwyn Young (last year with options)
Blake DeWitt (last year before needing to go on 40 man)
Cory Dunlap (last year before needing to go on 40 man)
Xavier Paul (last year before needing to go on 40 man)

Players and Pitchers that should be on the no-trade list:
Andy LaRoche
Tony Abreu
Jonathan Meloan
Chin-Lung Hu
James McDonald
Scott Elbert

Anyone in High A or below (Kershaw, Josh Bell, etc.) are not even in the discussion phase and outside of a Marlon Anderson type deal, players in Rookie leagues who were signed last year or before, are usually not dealt.

2007-07-24 13:39:43
75.   Xeifrank
Yeah, it's hard to judge Lieberthal this year based on his 50 at-bat sample size. An alternative may be to look at some of the pre-season projections on him. Lieberthal's current OPS is .621, but his Chone/Marcel/ZIPS OPS projections for 2007 were .757/.764/.719
and just out of interest they were...
.759/.812/.791 for Martin. Martin is obviously performing in one of the upper percentiles this year, and good for him!
vr, Xei
2007-07-24 13:40:42
76.   underdog
I'm gonna throw out a name here, because he's one of the few possibly available relievers I'd give something up for:
Chad Cordero.

There. I've said it. Now I'll wait for the symbolic puffs and smokes that announce this or the Snell deal. Or maybe I'll wait for the stork to deliver us a bouncing baby pitcher.

72/73 - Too bad we don't still have Cesar Izturis (and Mike Edwards) to toss into a trade with Tracy's Bucs.

2007-07-24 13:44:27
77.   dkminnick
51 - Thank you for your service, Captain. Honored to have you here.
2007-07-24 13:44:46
78.   trainwreck
I don't want any relievers, I just want a starter.

Why do I get the feeling we are going to be getting Shields from the D-Rays?

2007-07-24 13:47:01
79.   silverwidow
Yeah, it's probably the D-Rays again. Kazmir???
2007-07-24 13:47:36
80.   trainwreck
Someone needs to get in Ned's office and throw away Kenny Williams phone number. No Garland or Contreras!
2007-07-24 13:49:54
81.   regfairfield
78 Isn't Shields pretty good? I really liked his minor league track record.
2007-07-24 13:52:20
82.   trainwreck
81
Having a breakout season, but has slipped a bit recently. The D-Rays have young pitching depth, so I think if they got a good offer they would deal him.
2007-07-24 13:53:09
83.   Vishal
[78] the devil rays have no good reason to give up shields at this point.

[65] i'd also like to send my thanks and good luck to the captain.

quite the blog you've developed, eh jon? a spot where dodger fans worldwide can congregate.

2007-07-24 13:54:45
84.   PDH5204
Re catching duties, InsidetheDodgers was reporting that the lineup was the same as last night. I tried to recheck the site but my browser is reporting that the same is not available now [whatever that means].
2007-07-24 13:55:58
85.   bryanf
More wisdom from the Windmill:

"You can be quick as a cat, and you'll have no chance. Helmets won't help. It's a helpless feeling down there."

Courtesy ESPN.com: http://tinyurl.com/2fsh9j

2007-07-24 14:02:44
86.   King of the Hobos
Based off Ned's past negotiations, we're not getting Shields, but rather Shawn Camp and Gary Glover for Greg Miller, Delwyn Young, and Travis Denker.

I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that the Devil Rays are not involved. Snell would be great...

2007-07-24 14:04:35
87.   trainwreck
I have no idea why the Pirates would even be crazy enough to trade Snell. But I really hope they are.
2007-07-24 14:07:41
88.   El Lay Dave
62 My sources are so fringe front-office that as soon as any serious discussion is entertained, they are immediately out of the loop.

Or am I reading something into that?

2007-07-24 14:08:45
89.   Marty
I don't see how getting hit on a spot on your head, and getting hit in the same spot, but this time it's covered by a helmet wouldn't help.
2007-07-24 14:09:32
90.   El Lay Dave
88 Now in fear of rule 7, let me clarify that I'm just poking fun at how the quote sounded to me.
2007-07-24 14:11:15
91.   Marty
Uh oh. It's from US weekly, but anyway:

TV-star Alyssa Milano is looking to catch an all-star: Los Angeles Dodgers catcher Russell Martin.

2007-07-24 14:12:20
92.   fanerman
91 Wasn't she dating Brad Penny for awhile? Speaking of dating all-star catchers, my brother said that his friend's sister once went on a date with Russell Martin.
2007-07-24 14:12:38
93.   trainwreck
91
lol
2007-07-24 14:13:53
94.   regfairfield
91 Awww...Matt Kemp and D.J. Houlton had 2-1 odds.
2007-07-24 14:14:31
95.   dzzrtRatt
The continual problem for the Dodgers with the mid-season trades is that the opposing GMs are under great pressure to bag one of our best prospects, the ones the beat reporters in places like Dallas and Pittsburgh have actually heard of. If a GM gives up a Cordero or a Dotel for anything less than Loney/Kemp/Billingsley/LaRoche/Kershaw/Abreu, he'll be fricaseed.

Hu is especially untradeable. No GM wants to read the headline the next day: "Moron GM trades [star] for Hu?"

2007-07-24 14:14:42
96.   Marty
And there's more! Penny has a new one:

http://perezhilton.com/?p=1946

2007-07-24 14:16:15
97.   Lexinthedena
I can't imagine the Pirates trading Snell or Gorzelany, those two are what contenders are built on....Dodgers have players like Betimit and Ethier who would fill huge holes for the Bucs, but I don't see Snell happening......

The Cards have a lot of the same needs, I wonder if they would ever give up Adam Wainright for say Ethier and Xavier Paul?....or subsitute Ethier for Betimit who could replace Rolen.....

2007-07-24 14:16:40
98.   Marty
Maybe this explains Backstop Bacon's slump.
2007-07-24 14:16:48
99.   dzzrtRatt
91 Martin strikes me as more the Amy Winehouse type. He's kind of a beatnik, isn't he?
2007-07-24 14:19:43
100.   Hallux Valgus
99 So you're calling him drunk and insane?
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2007-07-24 14:20:09
101.   bhsportsguy
99 Given the last couple of former Dodger catchers and their outside relationships, Russell probably would be wise to stay from anyone famous.

Besides, he could become the Derek Jeter of the Dodgers.

Russell, a piece of advice, do not buy your girlfriend her engagement ring at the mall.

2007-07-24 14:20:49
102.   King of the Hobos
88 I would guess most front office personnel are kept out of trade discussions, but are observant enough to know the signs that a deal is close, and can report when they observe those signs.
2007-07-24 14:20:51
103.   El Lay Dave
96 Perez Hilton is a funny name. But not as funny as El Vez.
2007-07-24 14:24:49
104.   jasonungar07
62 I don't know how to act. I am nervous and excited at the same time.
2007-07-24 14:29:36
105.   Hythloday
104 - It's like a Madonna song or something.
2007-07-24 14:30:55
106.   Jon Weisman
96 - That's been going on a while.
2007-07-24 14:31:09
107.   El Lay Dave
102 Sometimes the signs are the same for a momentous undertaking and a power nap. ;)
2007-07-24 14:32:03
108.   Marty
106 If I haven't seen it, it hasn't happened yet :)
2007-07-24 14:38:17
109.   still bevens
91 Its kinda funny how they interpret her blog posts as to her real intentions. And even if they were right, way to bro Russ. I was kinda shocked to read about how a good amount of our young prospects coming up are already married. I figured we'd have a bunch of little Jeters out there terrorizing the women of Los Angeles.
2007-07-24 14:43:23
110.   natepurcell
109

billingsley, ethier and broxton i think are married or have steady girlfriends. I don't really know about the rest.

2007-07-24 14:45:32
111.   Robert Daeley
That Loons game finally ended after 12 innings. They got 5 runs in the top of the 12th to go up 11-6, but were out of pitchers and had to use a couple of position players in the bottom of the 12th. The Snappers got 6 runs and won the game. Four hours and 19 minutes.

Loons 11 20 2
Snappers 12 14 2

2007-07-24 14:45:45
112.   El Lay Dave
Tony Jackson reporting the following lineup for today:

SS Furcal -- 6gm hit streak (11-29), 11-27 vs. Jason Jennings
CF Pierre
C Martin -- 4-28 since sitting out last Tues., but 7-17 vs. Jason Jennings
2B Kent --7gm hit streak and 34gm on-base streak, longest in majors '07
LF Gonzo -- 7-36 vs. Jason Jennings
3B Nomar -- 6gm hit streak (11-25)
1B Loney -- 6gm hit streak (8-25)
RF Ethier -- 2-11 vs. Jennings
LH Hendrickson

2007-07-24 14:47:45
113.   still bevens
110 Yeah that was mostly in reference to last year. I haven't had time to pry into the private lives of the new guys like Abreu, Kemp, etc, although I have seen a pretty hilarious photo of Kemp and Delwyn Young out on the town with some ladies from some minor league town.
2007-07-24 14:47:56
114.   NorCalDodger
112 Isn't Martin out today?
2007-07-24 14:50:20
115.   El Lay Dave
114 Not according to Tony Jackson.
2007-07-24 14:59:36
116.   gpellamjr
I'm glad to see Matt Kemp is sitting out today. He may hit a ton of homeruns, but he might drop a fly ball in a clutch situation.
2007-07-24 15:02:00
117.   screwballin
Kemp sits for a second consecutive game? Why would you sit Kemp for two days after that error? CW says you get him right back out there.

The suspicious side of me says that means they're showcasing Ethier.

2007-07-24 15:04:56
118.   Hythloday
117 - They've been showcasing Pierre for an awfully long time. I wonder when someone is going to bite.
2007-07-24 15:06:50
119.   Jon Weisman
Little is alternating Kemp and Ethier. He's not alternating them every day, but rather giving them 2-3 days at a time.

Whether he should be doing this is one thing, but I don't think there's much mystery to it.

2007-07-24 15:08:19
120.   Xeifrank
118. lol
vr, Xei
2007-07-24 15:11:29
121.   El Lay Dave
FWIW: Few of the Astros have ever faced Hendrickson before, maybe they'll be kept off-balance by his slow stuff before they get adjusted.

Carlos Lee has 3 doubles and 2 BB in 6 career PAs vs. Hendrickson.

Kent - who is hot, as we know - is 14/38 vs. Jennings, 1 2B, 3 HR, 4 BB, 3 K, .368 .429 .632 1.060

2007-07-24 15:12:24
122.   El Lay Dave
Are players really showcased? Or is that a myth?
2007-07-24 15:13:42
123.   Sammy Maudlin
They had to do exploratory surgery on Schmidt to discover his shoulder damage. I don't understand why a MRI is the definitive diagnostic procedure for Saito's shoulder.
2007-07-24 15:15:36
124.   King of the Hobos
122 Players are showcased, but they're usually vets on poor teams, although I'm guessing it's a pretty rare phenomenon even in that case.
2007-07-24 15:15:43
125.   screwballin
I don't know, but it seems to me if you're talking up how great your player is, you would undercut that by not trusting him enough to put him on the field.
2007-07-24 15:16:18
126.   Greg Brock
51 Bless you, and thank you.
2007-07-24 15:18:00
127.   natepurcell
the GCL dodgers boxscore from today has the following pitching line...

withrow: 9IP 9H 5R 4ER 5bb 13k 2hr

somehow i doubt thats true.

2007-07-24 15:20:13
128.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
119 - It's not a straight-up platoon?
2007-07-24 15:21:52
129.   bhsportsguy
128 No because the Dodgers have not faced that many lefties since Kemp was recaled.
2007-07-24 15:22:55
130.   Robert Daeley
127 This game?

http://tinyurl.com/2wwvru

Looks legit.

2007-07-24 15:28:00
131.   natepurcell
130

the game looks legit but there is no way the Dodgers would let a 18yr old 1st rounder pitcher throw a 9 inning game that included 5 walks and 13ks...that has to be around a 130 pitches.

2007-07-24 15:29:48
132.   El Lay Dave
130 Seems like one would have to throw a lot of pitches to compile that line. Unless the 39 batters faced averaged 2.3 pitches per PA or less (and that's still 101 pitches).
2007-07-24 15:31:40
133.   bhsportsguy
310 Corrected box score (at least what I see)

Withrow (W, 1-0) 2.0 0 H 0 ER 2 BB 5 K
He faced 8 batters.

2007-07-24 15:35:05
134.   Hythloday
131 - If he alternated between really efficient and really inefficient he could do it in 68 pitches. This seems likely to me.
2007-07-24 15:36:26
135.   King of the Hobos
It's sure taking a long time for MLB.com to put up the Pittsburgh lineup. You never know...
2007-07-24 15:39:08
136.   Indiana Jon
51,65
Stay safe over there Captain. I spent a year in Afghanistan myself and I currently have several friends headed your way in a few weeks from another brigade. I myself discovered Dodger Thoughts when I was over there and I know it was good way of not only staying in touch with what was going on with the Dodgers, but also to get a little break from the daily routine. Hope everything is going well for you and your unit. We hope to see you return safely.
2007-07-24 15:39:28
137.   Suffering Bruin
51 Honored to have you here. Visit often and come back safe.
2007-07-24 15:42:09
138.   King of the Hobos
135 Yahoo has Snell in the lineup. Still a week left for Ned to work his magic.
2007-07-24 15:42:27
139.   El Lay Dave
134 Wow, 14 outs in the field!

133 See that now also. Note: Lambo 3-4, double and homer. .295 / .394 / .523 / .917 with 17 K / 12 BB in 104 PAs.

2007-07-24 15:43:37
140.   El Lay Dave
136 Thank you. Glad you are back.
2007-07-24 15:44:48
141.   Robert Daeley
131 Ah, gotcha.
2007-07-24 15:47:21
142.   Indiana Jon
135 MLB.com has it up now. Snell is in there.
2007-07-24 16:00:18
143.   Hythloday
139 My bad, 82 pitches.
2007-07-24 16:03:30
144.   goofus
89 The helmet spreads the impact force over a larger area, like getting hit with a basketball versus getting hit with a golf ball. The old ice pick principle.
2007-07-24 16:06:24
145.   Dodgers49
The lineup is the same as last night. (per ItD).

Martin is playing.

2007-07-24 16:07:40
146.   Greg Brock
139 It's early, and a lot can happen, but it's becoming pretty clear that Andrew Lambo has a chance to be a special player. Let us hope.
2007-07-24 16:09:39
147.   dsfan
Would dearly love a scouting report/analysis on the Double-A pitcher McDonald. Take it he throws very hard.
2007-07-24 16:11:33
148.   El Lay Dave
Nomar since the AS break:
.343 .395 .543 .938
2007-07-24 16:13:21
149.   Curtis Lowe
148 - If Nomar and Kent can stay hot and the kids continue to be productive that will be a beautiful thing.

Oh and a consistent BOMBARDMENT of Furcal and Pierre would be really helpful too.

2007-07-24 16:14:30
150.   D4P
Betemit since the AS breaK
.500/.571/.778/1.349
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2007-07-24 16:15:23
151.   El Lay Dave
149 Yes, but there are still 2 1/2 months to go. That's a lot of staying hot.

The Dodgers have been fortunate that the pitching carried when the offense struggled and that the offense went crazy when the pitching struggled. Any 8-6 wins early in the season?

2007-07-24 16:15:42
152.   ssjames
148 I am starting to wonder what Nomar ate during last year's all-star break which made him a force of almost infinite suckitude for exactly one year. Hope no one else on the team eats it. The all-star game was in Pittsburgh last year right? Maybe whenever the team travels there from now on they should pack all of their own food in.
2007-07-24 16:18:49
153.   El Lay Dave
150 I looked that up to, but left it on the tee for you.

Wilson has only three starts in the 12 games, including tonight, post AS break.

2007-07-24 16:19:05
154.   El Lay Dave
*too
2007-07-24 16:23:19
155.   D4P
153
Thanks, caddy.
2007-07-24 16:29:29
156.   El Lay Dave
155 I've always wanted to go to college.
2007-07-24 16:29:43
157.   trainwreck
Anyone think the Reds would deal Harang?
2007-07-24 16:30:39
158.   D4P
158
Forget it. That's a red herring.
2007-07-24 16:31:16
159.   fanerman
158 Your post is an infinite loop.
2007-07-24 16:34:02
160.   regfairfield
157 They just signed him to an extension, and he's probably their best player, so no.
2007-07-24 16:34:11
161.   D4P
159
The Hotel D4P: you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
2007-07-24 16:38:58
162.   Daniel Zappala
155 With a caddy, I don't think you need minions.
2007-07-24 16:42:48
163.   D4P
162
You've been trying to weasel out of your minionship for some time now. Was what I did so wrong, so wro-ong, that you had to leave me alo-o-ho-one?

Look: I even used the brackets...!

2007-07-24 16:44:32
164.   Jon Weisman
New posts up top and at Screen Jam.
2007-07-24 16:56:29
165.   Daniel Zappala
This is totally off topic. We were discussing giraffes at the dinner table with our kids tonight, and discussed some of the things we found in a Wikipedia article. Turns out giraffes can hear infrasound (frequencies too low for humans to hear), just like whales, elephants, and several other mammals. In the Wikipedia article on infrasound, there's a researcher who has shown pretty conclusively that infrasound can cause feelings of sadness, chills in your spine, etc, that can account for "encounters" with ghosts. Pretty cool.

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