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Hendrickson To Bullpen; Hillenbrand, Unbelievably, Up in Place of Young

2007-08-13 18:46

by Jon Weisman

Topic A: Tony Jackson. Topic B: Brian Kamenetzky, Blue Notes. Josh Rawitch of the Dodgers confirms.

Instead of Wilson Betemit and Jonathan Meloan, the Dodgers now have Shea Hillenbrand and Scott Proctor. And even if you thought poorly of Betemit's year, it's lightning and thunder compared to the drizzle Hillenbrand has delivered.

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2007-08-13 19:03:53

1. Bob Timmermann

Dodgers shooting for their first win with me in the stands since September 21, 2006. The Dodgers beat the Pirates 5-2.

2007-08-13 19:04:20

2. overkill94

That Joba Chamberlain is pretty tough. He set the Orioles down 1-2-3 while making them look pretty silly. I'd dare to say his fastball/slider combo is even better than Broxton's.

2007-08-13 19:04:26

3. Curtis Lowe

Hope Billz uses all his pitches tonight, I can't remember what game it was but he struck out some guy on 3 pitches 1 FB 1 Curve 1 12-6 Curve it looked really cool.

If anything I want to see some cool looking pitches.

2007-08-13 19:06:36

4. Bluebleeder87

please give us some feed back on how studly a pitcher Oswalt looks, I'm a huge fan. I'm hoping for a nice pitching dual though.

2007-08-13 19:12:17

5. natepurcell

that was a cool pitch.

2007-08-13 19:12:36

6. Izzy

So, I was reading one of my many baseball books, when I noticed it was written by some guy named Enders. Somehow, I knew, whoever wrote it liked the Dodgers. I just had a feeling. Very nice work.

2007-08-13 19:13:08

7. trainwreck

I am guessing ESPN's gun must be fast, because Bills is throwing 95 consistently.

2007-08-13 19:13:11

8. Curtis Lowe

Missed it, he'll have to throw it again with the same results.

2007-08-13 19:14:04

9. Bluebleeder87

The ESPN radar gun always seems about 2 or 3 MPH faster.

2007-08-13 19:14:22

10. natepurcell

not that much faster. kcal 9 gun has him consistently 92-94

2007-08-13 19:14:35

11. trainwreck

Sutcliffe says Ned has made no wrong moves.

2007-08-13 19:16:15

12. Indiana Jon

11 He aslo said the Dodgers had no players in their 30's and that's what they needed.

2007-08-13 19:16:25

13. Gen3Blue

PTL I think I will finally get to see a game tonight on DTV. As you know I am happy to be a D's fan on the east coast. But at this time of year I am faced with a lot of games that start at 10pm or later, often for weeks on end. Unfortunately I found I was drinking more to wait or nap after supper.
Fortunately I started taking long evening walks instead.
Unfortunately I found (this being a rather touristy area) that though much of my walk is rural, there are 5 Restaraunt/bars in walking range.
Fortunately I have been doing very well passing most of these establishments.
Unfortunately one has a cute and rather friendly bartendress.
Fortunately that place is a long walk away.
Unfortunately I found out she is a baseball fan.
Fortunately she likes the Yankees, with leanings toward SF (where she lived for 5 years.
I think I will be just fine.

2007-08-13 19:17:38

14. natepurcell

oops russ.

2007-08-13 19:18:35

15. Curtis Lowe

13 - Sounds confusing.

2007-08-13 19:19:16

16. natepurcell

chad's curve looks pretty wicked tonight.

2007-08-13 19:20:38

17. Indiana Jon

13
Unfortunately I couldn't follow along with everything you said.

Fortunately I still get your point.

2007-08-13 19:20:52

18. Bluebleeder87

He aslo said the Dodgers had no players in their 30's and that's what they needed.

oh man, that one is priceless!

2007-08-13 19:22:15

19. Indiana Jon

18
He actually said that when trying to explain their pickup of Hillenbrand.

2007-08-13 19:23:10

20. King of the Hobos

So, which inning will the Astros score their run in? My bet's on the 5th.

2007-08-13 19:23:41

21. Curtis Lowe

He must have meant noone plays like they are in their 30's.

2007-08-13 19:23:51

22. Gen3Blue

That has to be two errors yes?

2007-08-13 19:28:00

23. El Lay Dave

Pretty soon Sutcliffe will be talking about George Clooney, Bill Murray and whether or not Matt Vasgersian should still be in San Diego.

2007-08-13 19:29:56

24. El Lay Dave

20 The first inning. Tomorrow.

2007-08-13 19:30:26

25. JoeyP

These umpires are horrible.
Berkman kicked 1st base.
That was easy to see.

2007-08-13 19:31:07

26. King of the Hobos

That's a really bad call. Maybe we can score some runs if the umps like us that much.

2007-08-13 19:31:14

27. Bluebleeder87

it looks like the ump called Loney out at 1st glance from what I saw, luck is on our side for once it looks like.

2007-08-13 19:31:16

28. MMSMikey

did the dodgers just catch a break?

2007-08-13 19:31:34

29. Kingmans Performance

What is the name of the 1st Base Umpire?

2007-08-13 19:31:57

30. JoeyP

Given a break, and a GIDP.

2007-08-13 19:31:58

31. MMSMikey

well so much for that.

2007-08-13 19:32:02

32. El Lay Dave

22 It would be unusual to have two errors given for a batter reaching first base only.

2007-08-13 19:32:08

33. Curtis Lowe

paaaa

2007-08-13 19:32:14

34. MMSMikey

nice 2-0 hack there, kent.

2007-08-13 19:32:25

35. ucladodger

Thats not exactly how you want to make use of a gift call like that

2007-08-13 19:32:45

36. Bluebleeder87

I'll take that back [as Kent hits into the DP]

2007-08-13 19:34:09

37. fordprefect

We're living up here in the sticks (SLO) and Directv still blacks out the game. Thanks for nothing, Directv.
-Stupid blackout rules...

2007-08-13 19:34:34

38. El Lay Dave

29 Jerry Crawford. He was union head for the umps when they tried the resignation ploy. He didn't lose his umpiring job, though. 30 years umpiring.

2007-08-13 19:35:09

39. Curtis Lowe

First Dodger RBI will be hit by Chad Billingsley.

2007-08-13 19:36:03

40. King of the Hobos

Tim Wakefield is now 14-10 in 24 starts. How often does a starter have a decision in every start?

2007-08-13 19:37:11

41. Kingmans Performance

gracias.

I'll leave Crawford alone then.

2007-08-13 19:37:23

42. underdog

Sutcliffe must have made that statement about the Dodgers needing players in their 30s, when I was on the phone, because I would've done a spit-take. That's despite the fact that they had a thing at the beginning, a montage of Kent, Gonzo, and Nomar - with the announcer Sciambi talking about players getting old. I think Sutcliffe talks like he has a glass of Merlot every half inning.

--
I was glad to see Martin have a good rip on the ball when he lined out, even though it still looks like he's missing balls he would've hit earlier in the year.

2007-08-13 19:37:24

43. Gen3Blue

Just so, not good use of a gift. That's what seems to happen in these stetches.

2007-08-13 19:37:48

44. Gen3Blue

43 or stretches.

2007-08-13 19:38:12

45. underdog

Watching the Broncos-Niners game earlier, I saw the most pointless thing you can see in sports: throwing the red flag, calling for instant replay on a call.

2007-08-13 19:40:22

46. Bluebleeder87

Man, that was a beautiful inside pitch by Bills, wow!

2007-08-13 19:41:32

47. underdog

45 In an exhibition game, I meant to add. Thus the extreme pointlessness.

Well, at least Sutcliffe's aware of Billingsley's 1-0 streak, even if he went off for another three minutes after that.

2007-08-13 19:42:50

48. underdog

This is quite a dual, so far.

2007-08-13 19:42:50

49. Curtis Lowe

Nice max effort right there.

2007-08-13 19:42:52

50. MMSMikey

bills is throwing hard tonight.

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2007-08-13 19:43:10

51. MMSMikey

if brad ausmus gets a single, you know things are going bad.

2007-08-13 19:44:07

52. natepurcell

what does the espn gun have billingsley at?

2007-08-13 19:44:31

53. trainwreck

Bills is throwing rocks tonight. The Astros hitters are dead in the water.

2007-08-13 19:44:48

54. Curtis Lowe

52 - Ludicrous speed!

2007-08-13 19:44:53

55. overkill94

This is quite possibly the best fastball I've seen Billingsley throw - plus velocity to go along with pin-point location. Second time around the line-up I expect him to mix in a few more curveballs.

2007-08-13 19:45:10

56. trainwreck

52
92-95

2007-08-13 19:45:45

57. scareduck

I almost thought I found an exception to Bob's discovery about Los Angeles Dodger pitchers losing consecutive 1-0 shutout games... the Dodgers did suffer consecutive shutouts on days that Don Drysdale pitched on July 24 and July 28, 1968, but one of those two games was a doubleheader against Houston that Drysdale lost 8-3. A young Don Sutton took the 1-0 loss in the second game of the set.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAD/1968_sched.shtml

2007-08-13 19:46:59

58. El Lay Dave

51 Ausmus has 67 hits this year, a .234, not great, but still, it's not like he's Mark Hendrickson.

As tough as things have been, they should pitch around him and get to Oswalt.

2007-08-13 19:47:13

59. Curtis Lowe

???

2007-08-13 19:47:23

60. MMSMikey

that cant happen

2007-08-13 19:47:27

61. underdog

I'd say walking Oswalt is the bad sign.

2007-08-13 19:47:31

62. jujibee

FSN houston has Billingsley throwing 93-94 consistantly and up to 96. FSN Houston also has announcers who say that Billingsley has one of the best curve balls in the game, though I'm pretty sure they haven't seen him throw too much.

2007-08-13 19:47:51

63. Bob Timmermann

The Loney play was described on the scoreboard as "Failed FC".

I've never seen that phrase before on the board.

The BlackBerry is very balky.

2007-08-13 19:48:24

64. overkill94

55 Sorry for the jinx

2007-08-13 19:48:53

65. El Lay Dave

61 It's certainly not a good one.

2007-08-13 19:49:01

66. MMSMikey

my god

2007-08-13 19:49:06

67. Curtis Lowe

Russell.

2007-08-13 19:49:17

68. Bluebleeder87

ahhh Martin! the ball bounces out of Martins glove.

2007-08-13 19:49:46

69. underdog

That was just a few bad pitches from Chad - he needed to just throw straight fast balls around the plate to Oswalt and be done with it. I dunno what Honeycutt said to Bills but it was probably along the lines of, "Stop it!"

Argh, Russell! But a completely clueless fan reached in to interfere with him, too. C'mon, you dolt!

2007-08-13 19:50:03

70. natepurcell

stupid fan get out of the way!

2007-08-13 19:50:40

71. underdog

Now that dodo fan is on a cell phone, probably saying, "Did you see me on TV? It was SO cool!"

Oh well, they got out of it.

2007-08-13 19:51:08

72. underdog

Bob, go down there and give that guy a talking to.

2007-08-13 19:51:16

73. overkill94

Ugh, 55 pitches in 2 IP is no bueno

2007-08-13 19:51:29

74. Curtis Lowe

Martin showed some good restraint right there, I would have broken rule 1 all over the interfering fans face.

2007-08-13 19:51:33

75. Marty

Bartman in training.

2007-08-13 19:53:00

76. trainwreck

Yes, we need more Rick Ankiel highlights ESPN.

2007-08-13 19:53:02

77. El Lay Dave

Did the idiotic fan get booed?

If that happened in Yankee Stadium, he'd have to be escorted out for his own protection.

2007-08-13 19:53:27

78. Curtis Lowe

Cue 6 pitch inning.

2007-08-13 19:53:39

79. El Lay Dave

74 Milton Bradley would throw a bottle at him.

2007-08-13 19:54:23

80. Bob Timmermann

I'm in Section 55 of the reserved. The game is mainly a rumor from here.

2007-08-13 19:55:24

81. El Lay Dave

78 One hopes. One fears that Chad will overcompensate with strikes that are too good; Berkman and Lee are due up second and third next inning.

73 Worrisome.

2007-08-13 19:56:03

82. underdog

I didn't hear much booing - but a few scattered boos, yeah.

Gonzo has been struggling so much lately, I would have had Kemp in there tonight, but what else is new?

Sigh.

2007-08-13 19:56:13

83. MMSMikey

god, right when it looks like nomar gets good wood on the ball. its 40 ft shy of the track.

2007-08-13 19:56:49

84. Bob Timmermann

I heard booing after the foul ball dropped by Martin, but I had no idea what it was about.

2007-08-13 19:57:03

85. underdog

See now Sutcliffe is actually giving some accurate analysis about how the Dodgers are in transition. Maybe the Merlot is kicking in in a good way.

2007-08-13 19:57:32

86. Bluebleeder87

what's with the freaky camera angles KCAL is giving? it's making me dizzy!

2007-08-13 19:59:53

87. El Lay Dave

So when you steal second here, you take the bat out of Ethier's hands so Houston can face the pitcher instead.

2007-08-13 20:00:26

88. Jon Weisman

Bad moons setting and rising. See update above.

2007-08-13 20:00:32

89. Gen3Blue

Somebody got on base, and though my sound is now off, I think I know who it is. A friend of mine once said everyone needs a little head sometime. So I guess its JP and now he's stolen second----all for nought.

2007-08-13 20:00:46

90. trainwreck

85
Then he goes on about how great Pierre is even though he can't get on base.

2007-08-13 20:01:07

91. rockmrete

From the last thread regaurding Contreras...
Don't the White Sox need a Center fielder?

2007-08-13 20:01:44

92. overkill94

That last sequence was the perfect example of why having Ethier in the 8 spot is a horrible idea. If it was someone like Nomar there instead, either they pitch to him because they know he's struggling or we get a free walk to one of our weakest hitters. Having one of your best hitters there makes the decision for the opposing manager way too easy.

2007-08-13 20:02:06

93. King of the Hobos

88 Ugh. I guess 4-4 just isn't good enough.

2007-08-13 20:02:11

94. Bluebleeder87

should be an interesting inning for Bills with Berkman & Lee coming up, I really hope he regains his control.

2007-08-13 20:02:39

95. Kingmans Performance

Thanks for the small tribute to the Queen Of Soul in your 'Who's Zoomin' Who' post Jon, if that's what you were thinking.

Aretha Franklin's 1985 album 'Who's Zoomin Who?' a platinum seller that gave us 'Freeway Of Love', the title track, and a duet with the Eurythmics 'Sisters Are Doin It For Themselves' which had some airplay on MTV.

2007-08-13 20:02:44

96. MMSMikey

who did the dodgers option out? for hillenbrand?

2007-08-13 20:03:11

97. Bob Timmermann

I hope I see Shea's Dodger debut! It will be ... different.

2007-08-13 20:03:38

98. King of the Hobos

96 Delwyn Young

2007-08-13 20:03:40

99. trainwreck

88
Are all their computers broken and they can't look up stats?

2007-08-13 20:03:44

100. MMSMikey

delwyn young.

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2007-08-13 20:04:06

101. Jon Weisman

Tony Abreu would have had that grounder.

2007-08-13 20:04:22

102. ucladodger

Ned and Grady are driving me crazy with their decisions, as if the losing streak isnt enough.

2007-08-13 20:05:46

103. trainwreck

Yeah, he went 4-4, but let's go with the guy who has been cut twice over the past year.

2007-08-13 20:06:09

104. overkill94

I was hoping they would make a change just to hope for another Merlin moment. Hopefully we can catch lightning in a bottle with Shea for at least a week or two.

I was assuming Saenz would be DFAed, but I guess this way we can just wait until rosters expand to bring Young back.

2007-08-13 20:06:46

105. ucladodger

If I'm Delwyn Young, i want out of this organization as quickly as possible.

2007-08-13 20:07:44

106. Marty

Hillenbrand gets a couple hits in Vegas and of course he gets a call up. It's like Hendrickson getting hot in Tampa, so Ned trades for him.

Well, at least we have a character guy now.

2007-08-13 20:08:42

107. overkill94

Chad's gotta be more consistent in terms of his tendency to nibble. You don't have to make a perfect pitch every time, sometimes it's okay to throw one down the middle on the first pitch or on a 2-1 pitch.

2007-08-13 20:09:14

108. still bevens

Isnt Hillenbrand Nomar v2.0 but hits for less average and has a foul temperment?

2007-08-13 20:09:45

109. Bob Timmermann

Hillenbrand will be the newest member of the Dodger-Angel club.

And he will be on his third NL West team. Sweeney is on his fourth.

2007-08-13 20:10:07

110. still bevens

105 Would you say that its a sinking ship, to borrow a phrase?

2007-08-13 20:10:32

111. El Lay Dave

104 Hopefully we can catch lightning in a bottle with Shea

before he gets into a fistfight with Grady. Hillenbrand is washed-up AND bad in the clubhouse. What a waste.

Last time I saw Delwyn Young, he was coming out of the game with calf problems. Should he now come out and say his calves are pulled and ask for the DL?

2007-08-13 20:11:24

112. overkill94

We're already finding it hard to get Kemp in the lineup, what made you guys think Young would get much of a chance? At least this way we have a better backup at 3B than Lucille II.

It's only an 18 day demotion, I think Delwyn will live.

2007-08-13 20:12:24

113. King of the Hobos

106 Roberto Hernandez pitched one scoreless inning for Vegas before being called up. Seems like Ned doesn't mind how bad they were previously in the year, as long as they're proven vets.

2007-08-13 20:13:11

114. Dodgers49

105. If I were Delwyn Young I'd be tempted to join Tony Abreu on the Restricted List.

2007-08-13 20:14:05

115. trainwreck

112
Yeah, but you may be better than Lucille II. It really does not take much, I mean Shea Hillebrand can do it.

2007-08-13 20:14:12

116. ucladodger

110

no, i'd say its not being given a chance. Its not like Delwyn is some young prospect being made wait hit turn. He's 25 years old and was tearing up the PCL. He gets promoted to a team that cant score, produces when given a chance, then is kept on the bench and then demoted for a guy who has been cut twice this year already. Not exactly a vote of confidence for his future prospects in this organization.

2007-08-13 20:14:46

117. King of the Hobos

111 Hopefully Delwyn's agent isn't Boras.

2007-08-13 20:15:10

118. El Lay Dave

112
Hillenbrand 2007: .254 .275 .325 OPS+ 61
Lucille II 2007: .171 .231 .200 14

Dog food is as good as steak to the starving man. But it is still dog food. The Dodgers and their fans deserve better.

2007-08-13 20:16:54

119. MJW101

Is it possible for Ned to make any logical decisions? Is there another plane of existence that only Ned lives on? How can he consistently make so many bad decisions one after another?

2007-08-13 20:17:59

120. Bluebleeder87

we really should have just kept Betemit (for the power & on base %) & just called up Meloan I don't know these resent moves or just weird.

ps Hillenbrand was let go by 2 TEAMS!! that's a red flag right there Ned!!

2007-08-13 20:18:23

121. Bob Timmermann

And for one night, the people of DT stopped hating Juan Pierre and instead started hating Shea Hillenbrand.

It was a night of magic. A night of wonder.

Such is the power of Shea.

2007-08-13 20:19:35

122. Scanman33

How discouraging. You're a young player who comes up, you go 7 for 14 and then you're told that's not quite good enough so we're going to bring up the guy who was s-canned from two other contending organizations that need offense who is OPSing under .600 this season.

2007-08-13 20:20:25

123. Gen3Blue

One thing I think we can say is "Chads going to be allright. Now we just need to develop a few more pitchers or pay 10 mil to a few guys who get lucky!

2007-08-13 20:20:48

124. El Lay Dave

Is Shea Hillenbrand the guy you want to add to what I imagine is already a on-edge, prickly locker room?

2007-08-13 20:21:24

125. underdog

I don't get this Hillenbrand move at all. Is Young still hurt? Or just too... young? Sweeney I was totally on board with, but bringing up Hillenbrand? And keeping Saenz? And Martinez? That's just... lame.

Oh well, at least we have each other to commiserate with when things go awry or weird or weirdly awry.

Everything would look better if they would just win some games.

2007-08-13 20:21:46

126. Robert Daeley

So, anybody want to lay odds on a Tony Abreu/Jose Contreras trade in the next week? ;)

2007-08-13 20:22:08

127. King of the Hobos

Tomo Ohka has been released three times this year. Do I smell Friday's starter?

2007-08-13 20:22:39

128. Marty

121 We haven't stopped hating him. We've just stopped talking about him for a bit.

2007-08-13 20:24:02

129. ucladodger

this might be Chad's last inning.

2007-08-13 20:25:04

130. Scanman33

126-As long as Contreras isn't a Boras guy. Because it's good business for the Dodgers if Colletti just ignores Boras clients.

2007-08-13 20:26:40

131. King of the Hobos

Everything's in place for the third straight 1-0 loss for Billingsley.

2007-08-13 20:26:59

132. Vaudeville Villain

There's something particularly galling to me about this Hillenbrand move. It's not going to be a big deal in terms of our success for this year, but it just feels like this is the straw that broke the camel's back, at least for me, about my opinion of Coletti.

I've been willing to accept the, "Yeah, but he hasn't traded any stud prospects!" defense for a while, but this veteran infatuation is becoming really tired and annoying.

2007-08-13 20:27:35

133. Bob Timmermann

The stage is set for three straight 1-0 losses.

2007-08-13 20:28:56

134. trainwreck

132
Feel the exact same way.