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Dodger home record: 39-30 (.565)
When Jon attended: 5-3 (.625)
When Jon didn't: 34-27 (.557)
Dodgers at home: 745-600 (.554)
Jon attended: 293-233 (.557)*
Jon didn't: 457-374 (.550)
* includes road games attended
Current Roster with Estimated 2008 Salaries
(updated March 28)
Most figures are estimates (some are wild estimates) but will be updated as information comes in. Corrections welcome.
More contract details here.
Starting Pitchers (5)
$12,300,000 Hiroki Kuroda
$10,000,000 Derek Lowe
$9,500,000 Brad Penny
$7,000,000 Esteban Loaiza
*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
Total: $39,300,000
Bullpen (6)
$2,000,000 Takashi Saito
$1,925,000 Joe Beimel
$1,125,000 Scott Proctor
*$500,000 Jonathan Broxton
$500,000 Chan Ho Park
*$400,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
Total: $6,450,000
Starting Lineup (8)
$14,100,000 Andruw Jones
$13,000,000 Rafael Furcal
$9,000,000 Jeff Kent
$8,500,000 Nomar Garciaparra
$8,000,000 Juan Pierre
$500,000 Russell Martin
*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
Total: $53,900,000
Bench (6)
$875,000 Gary Bennett
$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
Total: $3,071,000
Disabled List
$12,000,000 Jason Schmidt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
Total: $12,790,000
Also Paying ...
$1,000,000 Brett Tomko
$750,000 Odalis Perez
$540,000 Yhency Brazoban
$500,000 Randy Wolf
$487,500 Jason Repko
$135,225 Rudy Seanez
$100,000 Mike Lieberthal
$50,000 Ramon Martinez
Total: $3,562,725
Working total: *$113,268,725
*Rough salary estimate
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Have you noticed it's been nearly a week since I wrote anything meaningful about the Dodgers?
It's not for lack of thinking about them. I'm juggling concerns and hope. I have lots of thoughts, and I hope you don't mind if I let them percolate a little longer. (Not trying to make these thoughts seem bigger than they are just trying to give you a little update.)
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Tonight's 4:05 p.m. game:
Update: What a lost year for Willy Aybar. David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports:
Willy Aybar had surgery Tuesday to repair a broken hamate bone in his right hand, abruptly ending the troubled Braves infielder's tumultuous season before it every really began.
Aybar spent three months in a substance-abuse rehabilitation facility in South Florida, after opening the season on the disabled list with a hand injury and being suspended April 15 for skipping injury rehab.
Aybar, 24, is expected to be out 6-8 weeks recovering from surgery on the broken hamate, an injury that usually occurs when a player is hit by a pitch or takes an awkward swing. The Braves expect he will be ready to play winter ball, and tentatively plan to bring back Aybar next season.
The injury is in the same area of his right hand he hurt playing last winter in his native Dominican Republic, which sidelined him much of spring training following his late arrival for visa issues. ...
On his blog, O'Brien adds much more, which I would strongly urge you to read. The section on Aybar begins partway down:
If you don't want to hear sympathy for the kid, if you think he should just go away and that the Braves should cut the cord, I understand. I really do. So maybe you should just skip the rest of the blog. Not a problem.
If you're still here, here goes ...
Update 2: Randy Wolf "is pain-free and is hopeful of resuming throwing on Wednesday," reports Ken Gurnick of MLB.com. Gurnick adds that "Wolf said he does not expect to start another game for the Dodgers this year, but is hopeful he can return in a relief role."
Also, Gurnick writes that Andy La Roche, "nursing a back disk problem, has missed two weeks of games at Triple-A Las Vegas, but is expected to return to action this week."
Update 3: The Dodgers benefit from the Phillies' misfortune: Cole Hamels (3.50 ERA) is getting an MRI because of elbow soreness and will miss his Wednesday start, reports Todd Zolecki of the Philadelphia Inquirer.
"No boy! Stop! It's too low! Your backbone can't take it!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRlfmV9nkvA
You're either in or you're out.
Except for Purgatory, but that's more like a waiting station.
I hope someone tells Dante about this.
The Penny on 3 days rest baffles me now, why not pitch Tomko at Dodger Stadium instead of him pitching at home run friendly Philly? then we'd have a starting 3 (at Philly) of:
Penny
Lowe
Bills
ps am I missing something here?
Also, maybe thinking too much about this but Ned going to see McDonald pitching twice in a month sure seems to be a hint on what could be happening sooner rather than later.
Maybe Jon is trying to procrastinate as long as possible so he can determine whether a "this ship is sinking" post or a "we've got a pennant race here" post is more appropriate.
I seem to recall that the Dodgers were on KMPC their first couple of years in L.A., in those pre-Angels days, but I could be mistaken. I will try to research that.
Last thread's comment 41- "Kemp has gone 8 for his last 20 with 5 RBI and 2 HR... let's pencil in LuGo instead!"
If a Dodger youngster gets into a game--or a groove--and does well, odds are pretty high he'll be right back on the bench, maybe the next day (maybe even in Las Vegas), or at least out of the lineup as soon as a veteran "needs" to play. It's happened several times. It will again. And if you're a young Dodger and mess up much at all, grab a bone on the way to the dogouse, and beware of fleas.
I try not to get too carried away about this stuff, since it's typical of old-school, long-established, barnacle-covered organizations like most of MLB. You know, x-number of years of tradition totally uninterrupted by that progress thing...
But this from Dodgers.com after Sunday's game made me roll my eyes so far back in my head that they got stuck and I was temporarily blinded. (OK, maybe beware of rule 6 there.)====
"Martinez, who has struggled all season, hitting .180, stood at the plate with an entire stadium rallying behind him. The veteran did exactly what veterans do -- he took a pitch and collected his nerves before smacking a fastball into right-center field to drive in Ethier and Martin and put the Dodgers up, 4-3."
ARRRRGHHHH!
Let's see. Is losing track of both where the ball is and how many outs there are (see Sweeney) also doing "exactly what veterans do"? How about going 0-fer at cleanup Sunday (see Hillenbrand) after being put there following his four-hit game Saturday? Is doing a gas can impersonation as often as not (see Hernandez) "exactly what veterans do"? And how, pray tell, do other grizzled veterans (see Tomko, Hendrickson) come through so often? What, "exactly," is their secret?
I know Martinez has been hurt. But he got the .180 BA the old fashioned way...he earned it. At least Dodgers.com got the "struggling" part right. It is great that Martinez came through, but still...
While I'm ranting, Dodgers.com lately also has mentioned that when hitting third Kemp gets better pitches and more fastballs because of the rabbits ahead of him. Gee, do ya think ? At least one post on DT mentioned that might happen months ago with Kemp third.
Note to Grady: lately Ethier has been about as good a hitter as the Dodgers trot out day-to-day. Might it be a good idea to bat him fourth (being LH, even) behind Kemp's power RH bat, at least good enough to try? You know, that could have happened Sunday and not caused all that "nerve-collecting" by wily old vet Hillenbrand. Too many "nerves" for young Either to handle? Right. Ethier couldn't possbily have matched that veteran 0-fer. Not a chance.
And who will bat cleanup next? I know--Juan Pierre! It makes perfect sense. If Saenz and Hillenbrand and whoever else can hit fourth, why not JP? I mean, he's a veteran and he's in there every bloomin' day. He probably could "do what veterans do." Or, why not Martinez at cleanup next time he plays?
I will now exhale. And try not to write a short novel next time. Carry on.
Mostly, I know what I want to write about, but I haven't had a good chunk of time to think through what I want to say.
Limbo indeed!
Just as long as it involves Juan Pierre because that is where the thread will end up anyway.
And Jon, if I took time to actually think through what I said here, I would use the "edit" function more often.
I usually use it to correct spelling errors so I don't get ridiculed by others.
Of course, getting ridiculed for what I say is a right of passage here on DT.
For my divine penance, I will now read all of Dante's Inferno, followed by the Bill Plaschke archive at latimes.com. I doubt I'll be escaping purgatory anytime soon.
The team we've got now is pretty much the same team we had when we had the best record in the NL, minus Betemit and Wolf, plus Proctor, Sweeney, Hildegard and Stults. It wasn't the best team then and isn't now, but it is capable of passing bubble-burst Arizona.
This isn't the same denial vs. acceptance debate of 2005. Denial had potential consequences that some of us wanted to see avoided. This year, I'm pretty much okay with whatever happens, except I don't want another massive slump. If they get close, but fall short, hey, I got my money's worth.
Besides, I'd rather see the Mets lose to the Angels in the World Series than the Dodgers.
April 8, 1959 -- The Los Angeles Dodgers will televise all 11 games against the Giants from San Francisco on KTTV Channel 11, according to Walter O'Malley. "It is being done as a public service," said O'Malley. "The Dodgers will derive no revenue from the telecast of these games." Broadcasters Vin Scully and Jerry Doggett handled the 11 televised games, as well as all games on KMPC Radio AM 710.
As the Dodgers did not change stations after 1958, their first year on the West Coast, this confirms that KMPC was their first flagship station in L.A.
3-0 Mississippi, top 1st
Nice, thanks for the link. I learned more about Wily in that link that I ever did when he was in the Dodger organization.
And Gonzo drives in run number 2.
Maybe hold off on that crap till Hillenbrand is hitting, what do you say?
Thanks,
Andrew Shimmin
Maybe we don't want him to give the score.
Tomko got 'em out 1-2-3 this inning. Is it a good omen for the entire game?
Er, yeah.
FIRST INNING
triple
walk
walk
strikeout
strikeout
seeing eye single, X. Paul throws ball into the stands
strikeout
SECOND INNING
strikeout
strikeout
walk
single
popup
On Willy Aybar, I certainly hope no matter what happens on the ball field, he has his life straightened out, I will be rooting for him. Thanks Jon for the link.
I think all of the announcers are having a hard time believing what's going on.
Another 1-2-3 inning by Tomko.
Who would have believed it?
I never thought I'd type that. But there's a first for everything. I'm liking this game so far. So far! (he adds, ominously, with a thunderclap in the background, worried about jinx)
I'm guessing I'd be passed out by the third inning.
D'oh!
if anything root for him to straighten out his personal life, nice touch to it BHSportsguy, & thanks for the link Jon.
Not to be a stickler, but a walk is a plate appearance, not an at bat. {ducks}
Yeah, his sedate style is more appropriate to a sport like golf
Wow.
Or really, anyone else.
Well, this was fun while Tomko was throwing a no-hitter. Oh well, time to comeback!