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McDonald Won't Be Serving Los Angeles for a While
2007-08-23 07:01
by Jon Weisman

James McDonald won't be coming up to pitch for the Dodgers, and it looks like a wise decision after all, reports Tony Jackson of the Daily News.

McDonald is 6-2 with a 1.65 ERA since his promotion from Single-A Inland Empire. But he also has thrown 125 2/3 innings this season, and his velocity, which reached the 92-93 mph range earlier in the season, is topping out now at 87-88. That probably is a sign he is tired, and that could be enough to dissuade club officials from calling him up this year.

So the Dodgers have conceded that we're stuck with Brett Tomko on Sunday in New York. This is a disappointment, but what needs to be done is simply plan to have Tomko on a short leash. As little potential as there is for him to provide six quality innings, he has a decent shot at three or four. Just plan to keep him on the shortest of leashes. Remove him at the first sign of trouble, not the fourth. And honestly, release or hide Roberto "one-inning max" Hernandez and call up D.J. Houlton or Eric Hull to back Tomko and Saturday starter Eric Stults up.

  • Jackson also notes in his report that the Dodgers are traveling from Philadelphia to New York after today's game by train, which makes so much more sense than taking the bus or plane that I'm not sure why no one in the organization had thought to do it before. No slam intended - just seems like the way to go.

    The last time I took the train was from Denver to Glenwood Springs, about five or six years ago. It took forever, but it was still fun for a change of pace.

  • The National League wild-card leaders suffered a setback when MLB ERA leader Chris Young of the Padres had to undergo an MRI on his sore back. He will miss at least his next start, reports Chris Jenkins of the San Diego Union-Tribune.

  • New Dodger blog: Mike Scioscia's Tragic Illness. For those hordes who know what the title refers to ... get the Simpsons quotes out of your system early.

    * * *

    Early wakeup call, folks! Today's 10:05 a.m. game:

    Gameday

    Retro Gameday

    Update: James Loney and Andre Ethier have been benched so that Ramon Martinez can start in the infield and Luis Gonzalez in the outfield. (Shea Hillenbrand is playing first base.) This is exactly the kind of self-defeating behavior I was talking about Wednesday. Unless somebody's hurt, it's just not right.

    Update 2: It isn't a story in the mainstream press when third-base coach Rich Donnelly waves home any number of runners to their doom, but when Matt Kemp makes a mistake ... oh, you kids. Ken Gurnick of MLB.com has the details.

    Also from Gurnick ... what do Billy Ashley and Ramon Martinez (II) have in common? And, Grady Little gets defensive ... sigh.

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    Comments (652)
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    2007-08-23 07:31:25
    1.   Terry A
    The train idea apparently came from some of the team's savvy, wily veteran players, which just goes to show they're still good for something.
    2007-08-23 07:40:30
    2.   Bluebleeder87
    the Dodgers should go for plan B & start Houlton, I really feel he's a better option than Tomko at this point but if that can't happen just have Tomko on the shortest leash humanly possible, seriously!
    2007-08-23 07:40:45
    3.   overkill94
    Hmmm, considering I'm in Japan (16 hours ahead) and thought the game was starting at 2 am (10 am PDT) I was ready to write the game off and wake up to see the result. Now that I only have to stay up until 1 am? Not so bad. Although I've yet to stay awake past 10 pm on this trip so this will be harder than my usual late nights.
    2007-08-23 07:41:47
    4.   CanuckDodger
    Yahoo! Baseball says the game starts at 1:05 Eastern.
    2007-08-23 07:42:25
    5.   Jon Weisman
    4 - Canuck is right again!
    2007-08-23 07:56:11
    6.   Marty
    I'll be taking a train from Copenhagen to Aarhus in a couple weeks.
    2007-08-23 08:00:57
    7.   Bluebleeder87
    You can't blame James McDonald for not putting in the extra work in the off-season I'm pretty sure he didn't realize how hard & how long a season can be but hopefully this will give him the extra incentive this off season to work harder, so fatigue won't be an issue with him come '08.
    2007-08-23 08:04:48
    8.   overkill94
    Dammit, I don't think I can make it until 2 am, I'm already fading fast.

    Lost in the shuffle of all the records broken by the Rangers yesterday, did they set some sort of record for most runs scored in 4 innings of a game? It's hard to believe that all 30 runs were scored in only 4 innings.

    2007-08-23 08:05:22
    9.   Bluebleeder87
    6

    Let's see, last time I took a train was from Union Station (L.A) to Newhall it was actually quite enjoyable/different.

    2007-08-23 08:15:12
    10.   Bluebleeder87
    Todays line up from ItD:

    Here's today's lineup:

    Furcal, SS

    Pierre, CF

    Kemp, RF

    Kent, 2B

    Hillenbrand, 1B

    Martin, C

    Gonzo, LF

    Martinez, 3B

    Billingsley, P

    some people are upset Ethier & Loney aren't in the lineup today.

    2007-08-23 08:18:38
    11.   LogikReader
    Will Gonzo resign or re-sign for next year?
    2007-08-23 08:23:40
    12.   Sam DC
    last thread: I'm just not going to be a part of a fundamentally amateurish operation.

    I just think it's funny that a college football program can be accurately criticized for being amateurish.

    2007-08-23 08:24:46
    13.   Sac Town Dodger Fan
    10- I am one of those people
    2007-08-23 08:24:47
    14.   Eric Stephen
    10 This basically comes down to Loney vs. Lucille II.

    Loney vs LHP 2007: .382/.435/.509 in 62 PAs
    Martinez vs. LHP 2007: .289/.357/.342 in 42 PA

    This is Loney's 3rd non-start in the last 6 games. Not acceptable on any level.

    2007-08-23 08:27:06
    15.   regfairfield
    14 Not that I think this is a good idea, but when you look at the larger sample of Loney's minor league numbers, he's a much worse hitter against lefties than against righties to the tune of 150 points of OPS.
    2007-08-23 08:27:54
    16.   Marty
    Gotta keep Hillenbrand in the lineup.
    2007-08-23 08:28:51
    17.   Eric Stephen
    15 I can accept that Loney doesn't hit LHP. But I can never accept him sitting in favor of Ramon Martinez.
    2007-08-23 08:32:00
    18.   overkill94
    When most line-ups score 15 runs, the manager comes back the next day and says "well, it worked yesterday, let's try it again today". Instead, two of our best hitters are taken out and replaced by one of the worst hitters in the majors and our worst all-around outfielder (even Pierre is playing better than Gonzo lately when you factor in defense).

    I'm usually a big Grady supporter, but I figured today's line-up would be a slam dunk.

    2007-08-23 08:32:05
    19.   Bluebleeder87
    16

    Grady is like, well Ned got 'em might as well make him useful.

    2007-08-23 08:32:11
    20.   Eric Stephen
    Thank God Billingsley's bounce back start will make all this hulabaloo about the lineup a moot point.
    2007-08-23 08:32:47
    21.   regfairfield
    17 Nor can I, I was just pointing out that's there's one less level of boneheadness there. It's only about a nine instead of a ten.
    2007-08-23 08:33:13
    22.   Sam DC
    At least Greg Brock and Bob will have this to take their minds off things.

    http://tinyurl.com/2tdp4d

    2007-08-23 08:33:17
    23.   LogikReader
    I mentioned it last night, my friend football boy took note of the 30-3 score last night.

    If Amtrak had more convenient schedules I'd take it more often.

    2007-08-23 08:34:44
    24.   Gen3Blue
    4 Canuck, normally I would join you in that Yahooo, except today I have to leave at 12:30 pm Eastern to pick up my daughter in Boston. If it was the Mets I could get it on the radio but Phillies--no way in the daytime.
    2007-08-23 08:36:28
    25.   Sam DC
    I was supposed to go to today's game.

    Then tuesday my boss said he and basically everyone else in the office would be gone today and was on call.

    They will all suffer by my low productivity!!

    2007-08-23 08:38:55
    26.   LogikReader
    re: Lineup

    Grady must be looking at the overall numbers for Gonzo vs Ethier:

    OBP/SLG/AVG

    L Gonzalez .357/.427/.278

    A Ethier .368/.474/.298

    sorry, still doesn't make sense

    2007-08-23 08:39:17
    27.   Eric Stephen
    From July 31 through yesterday, Ramon Martinez accumulated 43 PAs. Matt Kemp has 51 PAs in that same span. Those totals are too close for comfort.
    2007-08-23 08:40:18
    28.   regfairfield
    23 From BTF:

    The Baltimore Orioles just gave up 30 runs. The most points surrendered by the Baltimore Ravens in any of their games last year was 26.

    2007-08-23 08:41:36
    29.   LogikReader
    Actually in Gonzo's defense, it's been said that he very good career stats when playing in Philadelphia
    2007-08-23 08:42:27
    30.   LogikReader
    he very = he has very
    2007-08-23 08:43:08
    31.   LogikReader
    Orioles vs Ravens: that'd be some matchup
    2007-08-23 08:45:45
    32.   Eric Stephen
    29 In 53 PA, Gonzo is hitting a whopping .452/.566/.857 in Citizens Bank Park.

    In his career in Philly, including the Vet, he is hitting .308/.418/.515 in 273 PA.

    2007-08-23 08:49:29
    33.   LogikReader
    Stephen! Errrrrrrrrrric Stephen!

    sorry bud, couldn't resist ;)

    2007-08-23 08:50:39
    34.   Eric Stephen
    33 No problem. I am in fact in the white pages.
    2007-08-23 08:54:40
    35.   Connector
    Hi everybody,

    Trains are cool. In 1975, following a 6-month stint on an Israeli kibbutz, I embarked on a 2-month tour of Western Europe via Eurail. The 2-month pass cost me $200. I visited friends in Stockholm and Copenhagen to the north, Amsterdam in the Netherlands, and Vienna to the east. I stepped off the train for 20 minutes in Basel Switzerland to buy an authentic Swiss Army knife (turned out to be a genuine fake), and rode the night-train between Munich and Paris to save on hostel fees. The Eurail pass was a good deal all round.

    2007-08-23 09:00:37
    36.   LeeLacy
    Loney and Ethier go a combined 4-8 with 6 RBIs and 3 BBs last night, and their reward is to ride the pine so that a 39-year-old who's OPS'ing .578 since the All-Star break and a reserve IFer with a .179 BA can play.

    A real headscratcher ...

    2007-08-23 09:01:41
    37.   regfairfield
    36 All that running around the bases would wear anyone out.
    2007-08-23 09:04:30
    38.   JoeyP
    Its really Grady choosing Hillenbrand/Martinez over Loney.

    And of course Gonzo over Ethier.

    Very Jim Tracy-esque.

    2007-08-23 09:04:40
    39.   The Mootz
    R.I.P. Bat Boy.

    We'll always have Paris and the Internet.

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/offbeat/2007/07/weekly_world_news_goes_online.html

    2007-08-23 09:06:03
    40.   max power
    Some people throw crap against a wall to see what sticks, but this lineup shows that Grady just kind of throws the crap at the wall without worrying what stuck before.

    In my mind, that pretty much makes him a gorilla.

    2007-08-23 09:08:14
    41.   underdog
    I love taking the train. Cool to see they're doing that. It's actually a pretty easy shot from Philly to NY, makes total sense. I one t ook the overnight train from Chicago to NY in a sleeper car, and it was totally nice. (Getting to sleep through Toledo makes it even nicer.) Also took the train up to Eugene once and that was pretty.

    Today's line-up is totally stupid but I guess the only rationale behind it is to rest guys for the NY series? Otherwise, I dunno. Fingers are crossed!

    2007-08-23 09:11:38
    42.   Eric Stephen
    From the Phillies Insider on MLB.com (Larry Shenk, the Josh Rawitch of the Phillies), with a nice Dodger crossover:

    I remember asking Johnny Podres one time, "How come there weren't that many injuries to pitchers during his career (1950s)?" He responded, "We drank more beer."

    2007-08-23 09:13:41
    43.   LeeLacy
    37 I guess that's true. Plus, Loney and Ethier aren't exactly spring chicks. They're 23 and 25, respectively. They need their rest.
    2007-08-23 09:18:47
    44.   ROC
    Funny, I was thinking the same thing as my west coast self sits on the Amtrak Alcea Express from Baltimore to Philly, readin DT on iPhone, on the way to stag party at today's game. I'm liking this, and will get to experience bullet train in France on honeymoon next week. Maybe I can parlay nuptial weight into getting James into the lineup today...or at least convince one of my ushers to "show Shea the door".
    2007-08-23 09:21:30
    45.   Yu-Hsing Chen
    Shame that Kuo went down and is still mending... he's the Met's daddy
    2007-08-23 09:28:12
    46.   Bluebleeder87
    42

    well beer is a muscle relaxer so they might be on to something.

    2007-08-23 09:31:01
    47.   Greg Brock
    44 Congrats on your pending nuptials.
    2007-08-23 09:34:10
    48.   ROC
    Listen for a "let the kids play Grady" chant on TV/radio today.
    2007-08-23 09:36:42
    49.   ROC
    47 - gracias, but after last night the in-laws have labeled me a curse to the O's :(
    2007-08-23 09:39:29
    50.   Bob Timmermann
    49
    Did you go to the doubleheader?
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    2007-08-23 09:44:31
    51.   bryanf
    Even Steve Lyons said they need to find a way to get those kids in the lineup and that Gonzo should sit. Even Steve Lyons! Steve Lyons! Come on Grady, get a clue!
    2007-08-23 09:44:59
    52.   KG16
    42 - I've also heard that it's because the old timers didn't do weight training either. There may be something to the school of thought that certain types of weight training during the season could be a negative for a lot of players, pitchers especially.
    2007-08-23 09:46:21
    53.   Bluebleeder87
    There's really no other explanation Grady simply wanted RM2 in the lineup today, sigh! (with a touch of anger in the sigh)
    2007-08-23 09:50:34
    54.   tethier
    Loney and Ethier drove in six runs between them last night - their reward - riding the pine! As Overkill said, most managers when just trot out the same lineup that scored 15 runs the night before - not Grady though. What can he possibly be thinking? I thought Grady was treated unfairly by Boston, but after a year and a half of him, I am starting to think otherwise.
    2007-08-23 09:50:39
    55.   Bob Timmermann
    I believe one of the laws of thermodynamics tells me that I can't get hot water out of my electric kettle if I don't plug it in.

    I'm not sure which one it is.

    2007-08-23 09:50:40
    56.   Vishal
    4 years ago i bought an amtrak pass and took the train from LA to el paso, new orleans, chicago, philadelphia, new york, boston/new hampshire, montreal, toronto, and chicago. yeah, some of the trips were kind of long (a 28-hour scheduled trip from el paso to new orleans plus an additional 8 hours of delay was especially tough... 36 hours is a long time to be on the same train), but i met some interesting people and it was pretty worthwhile. i'm now friends with an amish grandpa, for example. i visited him a couple years ago at his farm in PA and he let me drive the buggy.
    2007-08-23 09:50:49
    57.   Connector
    With a little more than a month left in the season I wanted to know how the Dodgers schedule stood up against the 4 other NLW contenders. The results are surprising(see below).
    Each of the 4 NLW contenders plays 25 games against other NLW teams. The Rockies seem to have the easiest schedule because they play the most games (13) against under 500 teams, and have the most home games (20).
    By far the easiest last series belongs to the Dodgers (3 at home against the Giants).

    DIAMONDBACKS: 34 games left, H-18, A-16
    NLW 25 games - 7-SD, 6-CO, 6-LAD, 6-SF
    NLC 9 games - 3-CHC, 3-STL, 3-PIT
    NLE 0 games
    No.Games ag. Teams under 500: 12
    Final week: Away (7) to Pirates, Rockies

    PADRES: 37 games left, H-17, A-20
    NLW 25 games: 7-ARI, 6-CO, 6-LAD, 6-SF
    NLC 8 games: 4-MIL, 4-PIT
    NLE 4 games: 1-NYM, 3-PHI
    No.Games ag. Teams under 500: 10
    Final week: Away (7)to Giants, Brewers

    ROCKIES: 36 games left, H-20, A-16
    NLW 25 games: 7-LAD, 6-SD, 6-ARI, 6-SF
    NLC 1 game: 1-PIT
    NLE 10 games: 3-WASH, 4-PHI, 3-FLM
    No.Games ag. Teams under 500: 13
    Final week: Away (3), Home (3) Diamondbacks

    DODGERS: 36 games left, H-15, A-21
    NLW 25 games: 7-CO, 6-SD, 6-ARI, 6-SF
    NLC 4 games: 4- CHC
    NLE 7 games: 1-PHI, 3-NYM, 3-WASH
    No.Games ag. Teams under 500: 9
    Final week: Home (6) Rockies, Giants

    2007-08-23 09:52:16
    58.   Vishal
    [42 ] perhaps that explains derek lowe's durability...
    2007-08-23 09:52:33
    59.   bryanf
    I don't agree with sitting Ethier in place of Gonzo, but at least that makes a little more sense with regards to Gonzo's status as a starter all year. Sitting Loney in place of Lucille II, however, is completely inexcusable and makes no sense. I just don't buy the "resting him" argument, because if anybody should be sitting during a day game after a night game, it's Martin, not Loney.
    2007-08-23 09:53:42
    60.   NorCal-Dodger
    With offensive output last night should keep the same line-up? The only person needing a rest is R. Martin...This could be Leiberthal's final game in Philly, and Grady should allow him a start in Philly not in NY!
    2007-08-23 09:55:21
    61.   Bob Timmermann
    I took the Amtrak from Montreal to Washington once.

    I would never ever ever ever ever (x20) do that again. That may have been the single most miserable travel of experience of my life, even more than getting stuck in a plane on a taxiway at O'Hare during a severe thunderstorm while the guy next to me told me that public libraries were the biggest waste of taxpayer money in America, aside from zoos.

    2007-08-23 09:57:10
    62.   caseybarker
    55 The first!
    2007-08-23 09:58:09
    63.   ryu
    61 What was so bad about the train trip?
    2007-08-23 09:58:21
    64.   Sam DC
    Someone knowingly reported here a few days ago that it would be Lieberthal (Enders, I'm looking at you).

    Meanwhile, another fun topic:

    "[T]he pitching-starved GMs of America find themselves debating pressing (or is that depressing?) questions like this: Who will get more overpaid this winter -- Kyle Lohse or Carlos Silva?

    "Let's face it," said one GM. "It's going to be a nuclear winter."

    Stark -- http://tinyurl.com/39fndn

    2007-08-23 09:59:14
    65.   tethier
    59 I actually expected Ethier to sit for Gonzalez today, I don't agree with it of course, however, I agree with you - Martinez over Loney is just stupid. I think there is a lefty going and while still would have played Loney over Saenz, I would have played Saenz over Martinez.
    2007-08-23 10:00:57
    66.   Penarol1916
    61. Oh come on now, I know that the guy was stating the obvious, but how boring could that really be?
    2007-08-23 10:01:42
    67.   Bob Timmermann
    63
    That train was incredibly late and since it was 100 outside, they put the AC on. The AC on the train had one setting: 50 degrees F.

    I think I developed chilblains.

    2007-08-23 10:03:33
    68.   dkminnick
    6 - Hey, Marty - I've done that train ride. My wife is from Arhus and summers there every year (she's there now). What takes you to Denmark?

    Haven't read the rest of the thread, but what the heck is Grady thinking?!

    Is he friends with Tim Donaghy? I want an investigation!

    2007-08-23 10:04:16
    69.   Bob Timmermann
    66
    Fortunately the other guy was helping to save God and democracy by working as a financial analyst for Citicorp.
    2007-08-23 10:07:30
    70.   DodgerBlueBruce
    I took a train from Kissimmee, FL to Atlantic City, NJ. The worst part was the unsanitary conditions of the mens room due to the constant rocking motion of the train.
    2007-08-23 10:09:55
    71.   Greg Brock
    Ranking wasted taxpayer money would be pretty tough.

    I'll start with, well, Amtrak.

    2007-08-23 10:12:10
    72.   Bob Timmermann
    The guy on the plane said that libraries should only carry books when we could cut a deal with a publisher to get extra copies and promotional material. Or free.

    The rest of the stuff was just a waste.

    2007-08-23 10:16:35
    73.   Telemachos
    Game on, people!

    Poor at-bats in the top of the first by the Dodgers. Way to make a rookie work.

    On the other hand, at least the Phillies aren't working the count either.

    2007-08-23 10:16:44
    74.   das411
    So who else thinks this will be a crisp 2 hour pitchers' duel that ends 1-0 and gets done before lunchtime?

    Castro vs Billingsley sounds like it could be a fun matchup for many many years to come...

    2007-08-23 10:17:32
    75.   bhsportsguy
    Nice start by the Chadster.
    2007-08-23 10:17:34
    76.   Bluebleeder87
    the lack of body hair on Bills arms is uneasy on the eyes, but he pitched a masterful 1st inning striking out 2 (hitting the corners very nicely) so I guess I can' let it go.
    2007-08-23 10:17:52
    77.   jasonungar07
    Cant we just win or loose with our best lineup? I am so sick of this.
    2007-08-23 10:17:54
    78.   dkminnick
    I am now off the fence about Grady Little. Just to make it official.
    2007-08-23 10:18:18
    79.   KG16
    Not to revive the pitch count controversy of a couple days ago, but since the announcers mentioned pitch count (and what is considered "economical" - 15 per inning, if you're wondering), I have a hypothetical for the group...

    If you could take either Nolan Ryan or Greg Maddux, in their prime, who would you go with? Ryan being the prototypical high pitch count, high strike out, power pitcher; Maddux being the prototypical lower pitch count, force-them-to-put-it-in-play, "finesse" type?

    2007-08-23 10:18:47
    80.   Sam DC
    11 pitch inning!
    2007-08-23 10:19:25
    81.   Bob Timmermann
    Why is the Big Ten Network advertising during a Dodgers game?

    Can anybody on the West Coast get it?

    2007-08-23 10:21:50
    82.   Eric Stephen
    79 I'd take Greg Maddux, easily. Maddux's career ERA+ is 135. Ryan had only four seasons in his career as good as Maddux's career ERA+.
    2007-08-23 10:22:04
    83.   Bob Timmermann
    79
    I would take the mid 1990s Greg Maddux over the mid 1970s Nolan Ryan 10 out of 10 times.

    Maddux had an ERA+ of 273 in 1994!

    The best Ryan hit with the Angels was 141.

    2007-08-23 10:22:09
    84.   bhsportsguy
    74 Castro's last 10 games in the minors (since July 3, 2007)

    2-5 4.54 35.2 34 hits 18 ER 19 BB 28 K

    2007-08-23 10:23:33
    85.   regfairfield
    79 Maddux easily. In the context of all time greats Ryan wasn't really that good.

    Walking 200 guys in a season will do that.

    2007-08-23 10:25:42
    86.   Bluebleeder87
    Castros nerves are probably getting to him (little wild)
    2007-08-23 10:28:22
    87.   Bob Timmermann
    The top B-R comparable to Maddux is Tom Seaver. Ryan's top comparable is Steve Carlton. However, neither pitcher is very close.

    Maddux has struck out a lot of batters in his career, over 3200. Which is a lot for pitchers not named Nolan Ryan, Steve Carlton, or Roger Clemens.

    2007-08-23 10:28:57
    88.   Eric Stephen
    Wow. Steve Lyons just said he thinks "Martinez has the most deceptive .179 average in baseball. He gives you a good at bat every time he stands up there."
    2007-08-23 10:30:14
    89.   underdog
    Bills is gonna have to do it himself with the bat, too. At least they've bloated his pitch count already.
    2007-08-23 10:31:16
    90.   dkminnick
    Steiner was just saying that they had heard about Castro having "good stuff, but bad control." Wonder if anyone thought to tell Pierre? It will be very interesting to see what Pierre does next time up.
    2007-08-23 10:31:24
    91.   Eric Stephen
    In fairness to Lyons, the only other players coming into today with a .179 average are Mike Hessman, Pete Orr, and Chris Iannetta. Maybe their .179 averages are less deceptive than Ramon's.
    2007-08-23 10:31:29
    92.   das411
    Aww thank you Billz!
    2007-08-23 10:31:57
    93.   Bluebleeder87
    Billingsley helps the pitcher (swung at a ball up in his head) & strikes out.
    2007-08-23 10:32:04
    94.   underdog
    89 - ("his" meaning Castro, of course.)

    Honestly, I wouldn't mind Martinez getting the start at third today if he was replacing Hillenbrand. It's benching Loney that makes no sense to me. I just hope James starts the three in NY.

    2007-08-23 10:32:35
    95.   JoeyP
    A walk means a run Chad.
    Real bad swing.
    2007-08-23 10:32:48
    96.   Eric Stephen
    Hard to fault a pitcher batting, but that 3-2 pitch to Chad was Hillenbrand-esque.
    2007-08-23 10:33:04
    97.   Owen
    Why on earth wouldn't Grady give a "mandatory take" sign to Billingsley on that 3-2 pitch?
    2007-08-23 10:33:07
    98.   dkminnick
    Chad! Don't the Dodgers have a "take" sign? That's just unbelieveable.
    2007-08-23 10:33:13
    99.   Xeifrank
    6 batters, only one put the ball in play that half inning. vr, Xei
    2007-08-23 10:34:40
    100.   bhsportsguy
    96 Its worse, I mean you may not think much about Shea but he has a better shot hitting a 3-2 pitch than Chad does, unless the ball was right down the middle, and especially with Castro's wildness, he has to be taking all the way.
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    2007-08-23 10:34:48
    101.   regfairfield
    88 That's not actually that dumb. According to PrOPS, Martinez's OPS should be .677 right now. While "a good at bat every time" is pretty inaccurate, he would get his numbers back to where they usually are if he played more.
    2007-08-23 10:35:13
    102.   KG16
    82, 83, 85 - interesting, perhaps it's a matter of taste, but I'd go with Ryan.

    85 - in his defense, in the two years that he walked 200, he averaged 350 Ks.

    2007-08-23 10:35:52
    103.   bhsportsguy
    98 I don't think you give an automatic take sign to any batter at 3-2 (except maybe Dice-K), I mean even Hendy got one hit.
    2007-08-23 10:35:58
    104.   Bob Timmermann
    Faulting the pitcher for not hitting well is the acme of intolerance.
    2007-08-23 10:36:04
    105.   Xeifrank
    Dodger Win Probabilities:
    Pre-Game
    Dodger Sims: 49.3% (pre R.Mart/Gonzo in lineup)
    LV Hilton: 52.38%

    Current:
    FanGraphs: 45%

    vr, Xei

    2007-08-23 10:36:44
    106.   Eric Stephen
    Bills taking lessons from Beimel. Howard really scares the bejesus out of me up there.
    2007-08-23 10:37:32
    107.   Bluebleeder87
    Billingsley is being very economical with his pitches, another 1,2,3 inning for him, very nice.
    2007-08-23 10:38:06