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Dodger home record: 39-30 (.565)
When Jon attended: 5-3 (.625)
When Jon didn't: 34-27 (.557)
Dodgers at home: 745-600 (.554)
Jon attended: 293-233 (.557)*
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Current Roster with Estimated 2008 Salaries
(updated March 28)
Most figures are estimates (some are wild estimates) but will be updated as information comes in. Corrections welcome.
More contract details here.
Starting Pitchers (5)
$12,300,000 Hiroki Kuroda
$10,000,000 Derek Lowe
$9,500,000 Brad Penny
$7,000,000 Esteban Loaiza
*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
Total: $39,300,000
Bullpen (6)
$2,000,000 Takashi Saito
$1,925,000 Joe Beimel
$1,125,000 Scott Proctor
*$500,000 Jonathan Broxton
$500,000 Chan Ho Park
*$400,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
Total: $6,450,000
Starting Lineup (8)
$14,100,000 Andruw Jones
$13,000,000 Rafael Furcal
$9,000,000 Jeff Kent
$8,500,000 Nomar Garciaparra
$8,000,000 Juan Pierre
$500,000 Russell Martin
*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
Total: $53,900,000
Bench (6)
$875,000 Gary Bennett
$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
Total: $3,071,000
Disabled List
$12,000,000 Jason Schmidt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
Total: $12,790,000
Also Paying ...
$1,000,000 Brett Tomko
$750,000 Odalis Perez
$540,000 Yhency Brazoban
$500,000 Randy Wolf
$487,500 Jason Repko
$135,225 Rudy Seanez
$100,000 Mike Lieberthal
$50,000 Ramon Martinez
Total: $3,562,725
Working total: *$113,268,725
*Rough salary estimate
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One starter faced 23 Mets batters; the other faced 24. One starter's performance was deemed inspirational; the other's desultory.
Now, I was out of the house all weekend and I didn't see the games. So I'll ask those who did watch: If you scored David Wells vs. Eric Stults like a prize fight, was there really that much to separate the two?
| David Wells | Eric Stults | Wells | Stults |
|---|---|---|---|
| J Reyes grounded out to third. | J Reyes flied out to left. | 10 | 10 |
| L Milledge singled to left. | L Milledge walked. | 10 | 9* |
| D Wright doubled to left L Milledge out at home. | D Wright walked, L Milledge to second. | 9 | 10 |
| C Beltran walked. | C Beltran flied out to left. | 9 | 10 |
| M Alou grounded into fielder's choice to shortstop C Beltran out at second. | J Conine walked, L Milledge to third, D Wright to second. | 10 | 9 |
| J Conine grounded out to shortstop. | C Delgado grounded out to third. | 10 | 10 |
| R Gotay grounded out to shortstop. | S Alomar Jr grounded out to shortstop. | 10 | 10 |
| M DiFelice flied out to left. | R Gotay struck out swinging. | 10 | 10 |
| J Maine singled to left. | O Hernandez struck out swinging. | 9 | 10 |
| J Reyes singled to left, J Maine to second. | J Reyes singled to right (Stole second) | 10 | 10 |
| L Milledge struck out swinging. | L Milledge grounded out to third, J Reyes to third. | 10 | 10 |
| D Wright doubled to left, J Maine and J Reyes scored. (Wright caught stealing.) | D Wright singled to left, J Reyes scored. | 9 | 10 |
| C Beltran flied out to left. | C Beltran reached on infield single to SS, D Wright to second. | 10 | 9 |
| M Alou singled to left. | J Conine struck out swinging. | 9 | 10 |
| J Conine flied out to right. | C Delgado popped out to second. | 10 | 10 |
| R Gotay lined out to left. | S Alomar Jr flied out to left. | 10 | 10 |
| M DiFelice flied out to left. | R Gotay grounded out to shortstop. | 10 | 10 |
| J Maine grounded out to first. | O Hernandez struck out looking. | 10 | 10 |
| J Reyes grounded out to shortstop. | J Reyes bunt grounded out to pitcher. | 10 | 10 |
| L Milledge reached on infield single to shortstop. | L Milledge grounded out to shortstop. | 10 | 10 |
| D Wright walked, L Milledge to second. | D Wright walked. | 10 | 10 |
| C Beltran walked, L Milledge to third, D Wright to second. | C Beltran singled to deep right left, D Wright to third. (Beltran stole second.) | 10 | 10 |
| M Alou struck out swinging. | J Conine intentionally walked. | 10 | 9 |
| (Wells out of the inning) | C Delgado singled to left, D Wright and C Beltran scored. | 10 | 9 |
| *A bases-empty walk is worse than a single. | 235 | 235 |
Wells is an old guy.
The media loves old people that do well.
vr, Xei
I'm not going to use my 2 season tickets tonight or Wednesday. They can be had for FREE. Pick them up in Palmdale or they can be emailed for $2 each, a fee McCourt sticks you with that doesn't make any sense to me. Clippers tickets can be emailed for free.
Anyway, if you want them emailed I'd ask for $4.50 through paypal to cover all the fees or you can send me a check for $4.00.
Tickets are in top deck, sect 3, behind home plate. It is easy to hop on the elevator and go down to the reserve section on a weeknight.
Post if you want the tickets. I'm going to the game tomorrow. BTW, I'm 5-0 this season.
so what you are saying is we lose 2 of 3 to the Nats
In relating back to Jon's previous post on Maddux, my wife mentioned that to me the other day when she heard that Maddux won another one for the Pads. She said "The Dodgers should have kept him, right? Based on your numbers, we would have got more bang for our buck with him even taking the poorer fielding into consideration. The fact is he has been healthy for most of the year and we had to resort to Tomko (+6 ERA), Hendrickson and the injured Kuo in his stead not to mention the injured Wolf. He probably could have meant 3-4 more wins at least which would put his just a couple games behind AZ instead of 6.
This week is our chance like no 124 of the previous post points out. While the Dbacks and the Pads roll in the mud for 4,hopefully either they split or the Pads take 3 of 4 to tighten things up, we can gain some ground provided we can beat the Nationals all three games.
Mission: Impossible.
Bob's on vacation, otherwise I'd ask when the last time was that the Dodgers had a 6 game winning streak.
In fact, I don't think ANYBODY in the West has a 6 game winning streak this year. Really strange to think about. The Dodgers had a 9 game streak as recent as 2002 and maybe 2004.
What happened with the Wells suspension, though?
Looks like they did indeed, a 7 gamer back in July.
I think Juan would make a better Wet Sock.
Oliver Perez was on the ropes in the first inning. Ethier looked at strike three without putting the ball into play. Did it again to end the game against Wagner.
We send Gonzo on a hit and run. That and the delayed steal last week made Wells look like Carl Lewis. Sandy Jr. nailed Pierre too.
Yesterday, Sandy Alomar Sr. got Lastings hung up and we wiggled out of an inning.
Wright on Saturday made Oliver Perez a winner along with our baserunning decisions. Conine made the sixth inning rally possible with a two out error.
None of three looked like winners, but Perez put up zeroes, Stults wiggled around until the 5th, and Wells wiggled off the hook in the first and then again in the fifth with a great pitch to Alou. Alou was his last batter regardless.
TAKING THE FALL The Dodgers announced their participants for the Arizona Fall League and they will be: pitchers Zach Hammes, Justin Orenduff, Greg Miller, Wesley Wright and Cory Wade, infielder Blake DeWitt, outfielder Xavier Paul and coach Garey Ingram, who will all be on the Peoria Saguaros starting on October 9. Headed to the Hawaiian Fall League are pitchers Steven Johnson, Garrett White and Kyle Wilson, catcher Kenley Jansen, infielders Josh Bell and Russell Mitchell, outfielders Jamie Hoffmann and Ryan Rogowski and pitching coach Ken Howell.
The decisive moment for Stults was a manager's stupid call to intentionally walk Jeff Conine to get to Carlos Delgado, which Stults paid for. Delgado might be in a hideous slump, but that's tugging on Superman's cape.
I'm thinking Grady thinks Stults shouldn't be the first pitcher out the door in what could be a season-deciding series against San Diego. It might be PVL syndrome, but it also might reflect a concern for Stults' confidence. Or both.
From Will Carroll's column today on BP:
As the Dodgers fade from the chase, I'm not sure if they can't look back to the trade deadline as where it all went horribly wrong. The front office issues have shaken Tommy Lasorda loose from his career of talking Cubs fans out of trees and back into a more active role, according to several sources. "He's Tom Hagen now," I was told.
On the field, the problems revolve around finding offense. They won't get it with Nomar Garciaparra. While he could come off the DL mid-week by rule, the calf strain will take a lot longer to heal. He's not running yet and there's some suggestion that if the team falls much further out of the race, Garciaparra will be shut down in order to free up some at-bats for younger players in September.
a)there's no winter in Hawaii, and
b) it takes place at the same time as the Arizona Fall League
>> Colletti singled out several Las Vegas position players -- Young, Abreu, Wilson Valdez, Chin-Lung Hu and John Lindsey -- along with several pitchers: Jon Meloan, Houlton, Hull and Stults, who is with the Dodgers. <<
http://www.lvrj.com/sports/9390936.html
Head. EXPLODE.
Conspicuous in his absence: LaRoche.
I agree with Grady's move. Delgado was zero for 19 and with the bases loaded, a grounder gives you an out at every base. Also, the lefty on lefty stuff that is baseball gospel.
The key to the inning was Stults walking a batter. That made the inning.
Wells will get the start in SD because of the revenge factor and his ability to be in big games. We were lucky to get five from him on Sunday.
He is probably no different than Stults in what you might get, but you can't overlook the Hawthorne effect in letting the team and the fans know you would stand pat when things are going badly.
I think the biggest difference was the final score of each game. And to many people Wells makes a better story than Stults.
[Does Kirk Gibson fist pump]
[Does Billy Ashley tripping over himself trying to catch a pop fly]
This news also bodes ill for Bryan Morris, hopefully they are just waiting until they get a little closer to decide whether or not to put him on a roster.
Frank McCourt, Owner and Chairman, Los Angeles Dodgers
Maria Elena Durazo, Executive Secretary and Treasurer, Los Angeles County Federation of Labor, AFL-CIO
Andy Lansing, CEO, Levy Restaurants
From here on out I would like to see Hull back with team now and Hernandez not. I would like to see Ethier and Kemp play most everyday and let Pierre and Gonzo rotate in and out of the lineup. I would rest Martin two consecutive days a week and give him three days off in a row whenever there was a travel day.
I can wait for the September callups for Young and LaRoche to join the team, and the same goes for Meloan.
Steven Johnson (2005)(20 years old)
Garrett White (2006)(23)
Kyle Wilson (2004)(24)
Kenley Jansen (2004)(20) (Played in Hawaii in 2006)
Josh Bell (2005)(20)
Russell Mitchell (2003)(22)
Jamie Hoffmann (2003)(23)
Ryan Rogowski (2005)(23)
Going to the AFL, its clear (at least to me) that this will be a litmus test to see who stays and goes on the 40-man roster as every player aside from Blake DeWitt is either on the roster or needs to be by the end of November to protect them from the Rule V Draft.
Zach Hammes (2002)(23)(40 man)
Justin Orenduff (2004)(24)
Greg Miller (2002)(22)(40 man)
Wesley Wright (2003)(22)
Cory Wade (2004)(24)
Blake DeWitt (2004)(22)
Xavier Paul (2003)(22)
Blake DeWitt has one more season until he needs to be added to the 40-man roster.
if you want tix for tonight, call me and leave your phone and email address on my voicemail
i can email them around 4:30 pm or you can pick them up in Palmdale. i'll be away from computer until 4:30.
my number is 661-992-1435
Make that Costco's Hebrew National hot dog instead of the current hot dog posing as a Dodger Dog and that alone would improve Dodger Stadium dining especially if the price were realistic. At least the overpricing of beer keeps the stadium more sober and I guess overpricing unhealthy food keeps us able to root for the Dodgers in a longer lifetime.
Now the wait to get the beer, that's another question.
Farmer John (also the vendor at Angel Stadium) will be the manufacturer of Dodger Dogs for as long as their baseball played in Dodger Stadium.
Common misconception. Nope, the Angel Stadium dogs are genuine Farmer John goodness. You can get them char broiled by the entrance :)
For those that have to drink lots of beer I guess they will continue to buy at whatever price but the price does cut down on beer drinking if only I have to speak for myself.
That is quite a contract Farmer John must have signed with O'Mally.
It's like a Dodger Dog compressed to an 8" length.
Speaking of which: has anyone seen that commercial for bran cereal with the construction guy eating a bowl of said cereal on the construction site? The end of the ad is seemingly inappropriate, yet funny.
A.J. Pierzynski homered to deep right
J. Dye homered to deep left
J. Uribe homered to deep left
D. Richar doubled to right
D. Wheeler relieved E. Jackson
Don't know about you, but the 2nd homer would have done it for me. The new math convert named Joe Maddon, however, decided to leave Edwin in for the 3rd homer and then the double following. Way to go Joe, and so your team just lost another game it might have won. If today was the experiment in having Edwin keep pitching follow