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August 26 Game Chat
2007-08-26 15:40
by Jon Weisman

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2007-08-26 15:49:43
1.   Bluebleeder87
David Wells #'s against New York are pretty encouraging, but we shall see.
2007-08-26 15:51:30
2.   underdog
Btw, LaRoche came in as a PH in the Vegas game today in the 7th and flied out.

Delwyn went 2-4 with a double.

2007-08-26 15:56:31
3.   Eric Enders
Furcal, SS

Pierre, CF

Kemp, RF

Kent, 2B

Ethier, LF

Hillenbrand, 3B

Loney, 1B

Lieberthal, C

Wells, P

2007-08-26 15:58:10
4.   Telemachos
That's about as decent a lineup as we'll get, these days (given that it's on Martin's day off).
2007-08-26 16:03:18
5.   Bluebleeder87
2

underdog did the announcers give you any update on his condition? are they gonna ease him back in the lineup, one wonders if he's 100% I'm still looking at it with a raised eyebrow.

2007-08-26 16:04:03
6.   Eric Enders
Quick plug: If you consider yourself a music fan in any way, shape, or form, stop whatever you're doing and go out and buy "The Historical Conquests of Josh Ritter," which was released earlier this week. It's really spectacular, a landmark album. It will make you remember why you loved music in the first place.

http://www.amazon.com/Historical-Conquests-Josh-Ritter-Bonus/dp/B000TD9LE4

2007-08-26 16:05:19
7.   underdog
5 Hey BB, alas I only tracked it online via the box score, so I didn't get any more info than that. It sounds like they are easing him back into it slowly, though, yeah, and you're entitled to be skeptical!
2007-08-26 16:26:50
8.   PDH5204
Are we "resting" Martin so that we might get swept?
2007-08-26 16:30:33
9.   Daniel Zappala
You can also go to Josh Ritter's web site and hear several of the songs from his album.
2007-08-26 16:34:27
10.   FRM
Thanks Eric, I loved Ritter's The Animal Years.
2007-08-26 16:37:24
11.   underdog
8 Martin's being rested because he needs the rest and the team is traveling back to LA for a game tomorrow. I don't think it's a bad deal having Lieberthal catch Wells today, though like everyone I'm always happier having martin in the lineup.
2007-08-26 16:43:32
12.   PDH5204
11 We need to win, and now! If we lose too many more games, Martin will soon have time for all the rest he might otherwise need.
2007-08-26 16:45:24
13.   King of the Hobos
From the last thread, if we want our own Chris Young to challenge the other 2 teams, there's one for the taking. He's a 26 year old groundball specialist who has a problem with homers and can't strike out anyone. Currently playing for Albuquerque, we just need to convince Florida to give him to us for something of no real value, like cash.

http://tinyurl.com/2glegh

2007-08-26 16:47:13
14.   underdog
12 True, but despite his home run yesterday he's looked pretty sluggish to me over the past few weeks. Maybe it's a mirage, but honestly we have a perfectly capable backup catcher and if we automatically can't win because he's in and Martin's out... Well, they have other problems besides that... (Still, sometimes I wish Martin could go back to play 3rd base like he did when he first came up. ;-)
2007-08-26 16:48:46
15.   underdog
Boy have the Brewers fallen apart or what? Another loss in SF today.
2007-08-26 16:51:46
16.   underdog
Well, I've got another evening soccer/futbol game tonight so I'm taping the game to watch late. At least then I can fast forward through much of the bad parts - or at least through Joe Morgan monologues. Good luck Dodgers!
2007-08-26 16:53:49
17.   LAT
15. We fans who live in glass houses. . .
2007-08-26 16:55:41
18.   underdog
17 Heh, totally. But the Brewers just seemed like a such a great team and now they're at .500, which is kinda stunning. But I guess like the Dodgers they were playing a little better than they really were for awhile and now have been playing a little worse than they are at the wrong time.
2007-08-26 16:57:54
19.   underdog
Top Ten Greatest Home Runs right now on ESPN.
2007-08-26 17:03:04
20.   Linkmeister
6 I'm so clueless I read that and thought "John Ritter's dead!"
2007-08-26 17:04:48
21.   El Lay Dave
20 He's still dead.
2007-08-26 17:05:33
22.   El Lay Dave
LATed myself!

Isn't Edwin Jackson the (perhaps potentially) cautionary tale regarding service time and running young pitchers up to the majors? I realize that at age 19, Jackson is the extreme example, but I can understand reluctance on the part of Dodger front-office folks to rush their pitchers into the 40- or 25- man rosters earlier than might be prudent. As Eric Enders touches on in 46 of the last thread, if the Dodgers had kept Jackson, they would have had difficult roster decisions to make. Under a more normal development curve, he'd still have options left, less time on the 40-man roster, and could have finished his learning in AAA, not the majors.

2007-08-26 17:06:16
23.   Bluebleeder87
Looking at David Wells worming up, his arm looks pretty nice & lose I'm pretty sure he'll have a nice game I just really hope he can last 6 or 7 innings.
2007-08-26 17:10:53
24.   Bluebleeder87
Wootz, good start for the boys in blue.
2007-08-26 17:11:16
25.   LAT
Nice start.
2007-08-26 17:11:22
26.   trainwreck
I hate when people say Pierre is doing well.
2007-08-26 17:11:47
27.   trainwreck
I mean for the season, not recently.
2007-08-26 17:12:50
28.   Sam in SC
"Looking at David Wells worming up . . . "

I hope this doesn't turn out to be more prescient than we could have known.

2007-08-26 17:13:00
29.   D4P
Someone needs to explain that strike zone thingie to Pierre.
2007-08-26 17:13:40
30.   Eric Enders
22 I think the Dodgers can be forgiven calling Jackson up so soon because

1) They really needed him to make those starts. And his performance in those starts showed that it probably wasn't too soon.
2) At the time, we all thought he was coming up to the majors for good. Remember, he was the favorite to win the 5th starter's job the next spring but pitched his way out of the role. Nobody thought we'd need to use even ONE of his options, much less all of them.

It's easy to say in retrospect that the Dodgers should have done differently, but nobody knew that he was going to both get hurt AND forget how to pitch. It's just one of those things that happens sometimes. It could have happened with Fernando or Ramon Martinez also, but it didn't. I don't think the Jackson case should make us particularly wary of calling up young pitchers when their minor league performance dictates they're ready.

2007-08-26 17:14:07
31.   Rob M
26 How about when they say he's a good bunter.
2007-08-26 17:15:24
32.   D4P
Does Matt Kemp have the largest strike zone in the league...?
2007-08-26 17:15:40
33.   trainwreck
31
Don't mind it. I just hate when they say he is good, because they never bother to look at stats. People just say it because they like how he plays.
2007-08-26 17:16:25
34.   LAT
29. Change that to Kemp.
2007-08-26 17:16:38
35.   MMSMikey
what a surprise there. a strike out with a runner on 3rd and less then 2 outs. pathetic.
2007-08-26 17:16:49
36.   trainwreck
32
According to Joe Morgan, that pitch got a lot of the strike zone.

Riiiiiight.

2007-08-26 17:17:18
37.   MMSMikey
hit a groundball to short. we're up 1-0.
2007-08-26 17:17:41
38.   LAT
Dodgers leave a runner on 3B. What are the odds?
2007-08-26 17:19:57
39.   Bluebleeder87
Perfect example of why we're struggling & Kemp with 2 strikes needs swing at anything close, argh!
2007-08-26 17:20:36
40.   MMSMikey
36.

that pitch was too close to take with 2 strikes.

2007-08-26 17:22:50
41.   Sam in SC
baserunning gift from the mets
2007-08-26 17:23:05
42.   Andrew Shimmin
Things that wouldn't have happened if LuGo were in LF, for 800 Alex.
2007-08-26 17:23:41
43.   Sam in SC
42 - excellent point.
2007-08-26 17:23:44
44.   D4P
Looks like bad base-running will bail out FTOG.
2007-08-26 17:25:23
45.   bhsportsguy
42 Except that was a pretty short throw, Furcal was almost in mid-LF, but you are probably right.
2007-08-26 17:26:23
46.   bhsportsguy
42 A better question is things that wouldn't have happened if Furcal wasn't the shortstop.
2007-08-26 17:26:31
47.   Vaudeville Villain
39 40

Kemp needs to concentrate on getting a good pitch to hit, not worrying about striking out. The called strike could have gone either way.

2007-08-26 17:26:51
48.   Sam in SC
why does it just seem very unlikely that tomko would have been blessed by the some dumb luck if it was him starting tonight . . .

aside from some really mediocre pitching, he could never seem to buy a break.

2007-08-26 17:27:10
49.   El Lay Dave
22 Remember, he was the favorite to win the 5th starter's job the next spring but pitched his way out of the role.

My poorly-made point is that that should be the lesson learned. (I'm not really trying to damn the Dodgers for the past judgment; it did make some sense, perhaps, at the time.) If you move a young kid up, even if you think he's ready, you are limiting some of your longer-term choices, and the Dodgers had few options once Jackson suffered a setback. I'm just saying that management has more to considered than if some 20-year old minor league pitcher would be better than, say, Tomko or Wells today.

2007-08-26 17:27:25
50.   LAT
Wells uniform is about four sizes too big. What did they do give him one of Broxton's.
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2007-08-26 17:28:35
51.   King of the Hobos
Has anyone mentioned McDonald's outing yet?

6 IP, 7 H, 2 R (1 ER), 0 BB, 4 K, 1 HR

2007-08-26 17:28:47
52.   D4P
Strike 2 to Kemp was a worse call than strike 3.
2007-08-26 17:28:54
53.   Vaudeville Villain
Joe Morgan is SOOOOO bad. He called Hillenbrand Sean twice. How does this guy get paid to talk about baseball?
2007-08-26 17:29:36
54.   Sam in SC
53 - they all look alike to him ;)
2007-08-26 17:30:09
55.   Bluebleeder87
47

get your point but Kemp at this point in time (hate to admit this) is NOT a good situational/thinking mans hitter, I really feel he had a bad at bat.

2007-08-26 17:30:13
56.   Linkmeister
53 Lots and lots of slack given to HoFers.
2007-08-26 17:30:15
57.   JoeyP
Its hard to claim Tomko had bad luck when he led the staff in giving up homers.
2007-08-26 17:31:52
58.   LAT
55. Agreed. Forget close calls. Kemp has to make contact in that situation.
2007-08-26 17:32:17
59.   King of the Hobos
57 Of course the new leader is his replacement.
2007-08-26 17:32:18
60.   trainwreck
50
Do you want to see David Wells in a tight jersey?

I did not think so.

2007-08-26 17:32:33
61.   Sam in SC
57 - I thought I qualified my comment adequately.
2007-08-26 17:32:40
62.   Vaudeville Villain
55

He ran the count to 2-2 and got two called strikes that were questionable. How is that a bad at-bat?

2007-08-26 17:33:18
63.   JoeyP
51--If the Dodgers are truely concerned with McDonald's lowered velocity and his tired arm---why not just shut him down for the year?

The longer he makes better starts, the worse the front office looks for having him throw those pitches in the minor league level when the mlb level is calling. But then again, at 7 games out in the division, 4 in the WC--it might not matter.

2007-08-26 17:36:01
64.   Bluebleeder87
I shouldn't think this way but I always want every Dodger hitter to be a Russell Martin clone in terms of how they approach an at bat, I'm sure Kemp will learn.
2007-08-26 17:36:48
65.   trainwreck
There should be a drinking game for Joe Morgan commentary. Everytime he says a name wrong you got to drink.

Of course, people may die of alcohol poisoning.

2007-08-26 17:38:15
66.   King of the Hobos
Joe Morgan just mentioned all of Minaya's shrewd pickups for the bench, including Marlon Byrd. Did that just happen? Or are all guys named Marlon essentially the same guy?
2007-08-26 17:40:23
67.   King of the Hobos
65 The safest Joe Morgan drinking game would be to drink whenever he says something that is both coherent and factually correct. Actually, calling that a "drinking" game may be a bit of a misnomer.
2007-08-26 17:44:08
68.   Bluebleeder87
Rabbits are lose!
2007-08-26 17:44:28
69.   trainwreck
We lead!
2007-08-26 17:44:37
70.   D4P
Sometimes groundballs turn into triples. A lot of times, though, they turn into outs.
2007-08-26 17:46:09
71.   bhsportsguy
That was an unagressive swing by Matty.
2007-08-26 17:46:30
72.   LAT
60. Good point.
2007-08-26 17:46:41
73.   MMSMikey
kemp is 2 for 2 with runners on 3rd
2007-08-26 17:47:53
74.   bhsportsguy
73 If this place turns on Matt Kemp, I will have to go find another blog.
2007-08-26 17:48:29
75.   D4P
FTOG's Gameday photo is funny.
2007-08-26 17:49:28
76.   trainwreck
74
Seriously, this guy is our future. He is one of the ones that give me hope.
2007-08-26 17:49:50
77.   Gen3Blue
Whoa--Reyes-watch this
2007-08-26 17:49:51
78.   King of the Hobos
Pardon my ignorance, but what does FTOG mean?
2007-08-26 17:51:02
79.   Gen3Blue
Here's the test for Wells.
2007-08-26 17:51:06
80.   Sam in SC
78 - I believe it is "fat tub of goo".
2007-08-26 17:51:13
81.   D4P
what does FTOG mean?

Fat Tub of Goo

2007-08-26 17:51:35
82.   Andrew Shimmin
78- Fat Tub Of Goo.
2007-08-26 17:52:06
83.   King of the Hobos
80 ,81 ,82 ,etc. Thanks
2007-08-26 17:52:15
84.   Andrew Shimmin
D'oh.
2007-08-26 17:53:13
85.   Bluebleeder87
74

it's one of those things were we know how good he can be so we get kind of frustrated when he doesn't produce, sprinkle in some bad playing from the Dodgers are you got moody DTer's

2007-08-26 17:53:41
86.   trainwreck
Can we get Pierre a bionic arm?
2007-08-26 17:54:01
87.   King of the Hobos
Too bad Pierre had to field that ball.
2007-08-26 17:54:26
88.   Sam in SC
another base running blunder, but after the damage is done.
2007-08-26 17:54:26
89.   JoeyP
Dodgers could use a David Wright.
2007-08-26 17:54:40
90.   LAT
Another run scored against our CF. That second run was the product of our CF are. Reyes know who he was running on.
2007-08-26 17:55:32
91.   Bluebleeder87
FTOG's Gameday photo is funny.

He's got a hu?? what going on?? type face in the mug.

2007-08-26 17:56:18
92.   LAT
Acknowledging a couple of bad AB by Kemp is far from turning on him. I just hope Grady and Ned realize a couple of poor ABs does not a player make.
2007-08-26 17:58:17
93.   dzzrtRatt
The Mets of Dennis Ribant, Al Jackson and Jack Fisher would have never used Power Point.
2007-08-26 17:58:40
94.   Mark Joseph
92

Two words: Wilson Betemit

2007-08-26 17:59:43
95.   Sam in SC
I hope kent is okay. WHOA!
2007-08-26 18:00:11
96.   LAT
Wow that was a shot to the head.
2007-08-26 18:00:25
97.   Sam in SC
isn't that getting beaned twice in three years for kent?
2007-08-26 18:00:59
98.   Andrew Shimmin
Jeez. He can't stay in, even if he thinks he's alright. They've got to get him out.
2007-08-26 18:01:29
99.   King of the Hobos
I certainly hope Kent is alright, but this is just making the Betemit deal that much worse. At least we have Hu.
2007-08-26 18:01:53
100.   D4P
At least Lucille can't pinch hit for Kemp tonight.
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2007-08-26 18:02:28
101.   LAT
Great Ramon in his place. This season just keeps getting better and better.
2007-08-26 18:03:34
102.   Reddog
How many extra runs over the course of this season have the Dodgers given up due to Pierre's weak arm?

My guess is 50.

2007-08-26 18:03:55
103.   LAT
Apparently chest high and inside is now in the strike zone.
2007-08-26 18:05:20
104.   Bluebleeder87
I think our winning peripherals just went down a bit with Kent out of the game, sigh.
2007-08-26 18:06:46
105.   LAT
I'm guessing if there is anyone who is likely to retaliate for the bean ball to Kent its Wells. On the other hand, maybe not when appealing a suspension.
2007-08-26 18:07:03
106.   Sam in SC
the dodgers needs something besides a K right here
2007-08-26 18:07:07
107.   bhsportsguy
102 I don't think even the worse defensive player is responsible for an extra 50 runs.

Just the numbers, Wilson's line in NY. .209/.277/.442, key numbers 3 HRs, 4 BB, 17 K in 47 plate appearances.

2007-08-26 18:07:27
108.   Bluebleeder87
You guys think Boomer will retaliate?
2007-08-26 18:07:54
109.   MMSMikey
im sensing we will not score this inning
2007-08-26 18:07:56
110.   Sam in SC
something besides a K, or what just happened.
2007-08-26 18:08:18
111.   bhsportsguy
Hillebrand now has had two tough breaks on line drives in this series.
2007-08-26 18:09:08
112.   LAT
Has there been a batter Maine has not gotten ahead of?
2007-08-26 18:09:09
113.   Bluebleeder87
Good point LAT, I forgot about that.
2007-08-26 18:09:13
114.   Sam in SC
102 50 runs is a lot of runs . . .
2007-08-26 18:10:04
115.   Sam in SC
argh
2007-08-26 18:10:06
116.   MMSMikey
Dodger Baseball.
2007-08-26 18:10:47
117.   King of the Hobos
Apparently Little is going to skip Stults' start on Friday.
2007-08-26 18:10:49
118.   LAT
I'm going to pretend Loney didn't swing at that last pitch.
2007-08-26 18:11:21
119.   JoeyP
Some interesting stats on previous Dodgers CF'ers that Ned has given away:

Jayson Werth (153 abs with Phillies)
.294/.391/.458

Milton Bradley (101 abs with Padres)
.356/.454/.653

Cody Ross (106 abs with Marlins)
.302/.405/.594

2007-08-26 18:12:20
120.   Sam in SC
sigh
2007-08-26 18:12:21
121.   MMSMikey
seriously, how can grady tolerate this? i think he should resign.
2007-08-26 18:14:07
122.   bhsportsguy
119 If they could only go a whole year without getting hurt, they would be pretty good.

I'm sorry that Werth got hurt but he was out almost 2 years, Milton has been in and out of the lineup for 3 years and Cody Ross is also not immune to the DL.

2007-08-26 18:15:12
123.   MMSMikey
its almost impossible not to score with 1st and 3rd nobody out
2007-08-26 18:16:20
124.   Reddog
The reason I'm guessing 50 runs is that I'm factoring in that opposing teams virtually always take the extra base when the ball is hit to Pierre. So 3 or 4 times a game they'll have a guy on third instead of second, or they'll score a run rather than having him stop at third.

That seems like it could easily add up to an extra run every third game played.

2007-08-26 18:16:50
125.   bhsportsguy
123 Line drive, K, K.
2007-08-26 18:17:48
126.   MMSMikey
.125

thanks i wasnt watching.

2007-08-26 18:18:39
127.   Ken Noe
122 I'll still take Ethier over Bradley, as much as I liked actually Bradley in blue. NedCo wasn't the last GM to release Milton.
2007-08-26 18:18:52
128.   Bluebleeder87
123 ,125

we're inventing ways of not scoring it seems.

2007-08-26 18:19:25
129.   Sam in SC
124 the dodgers have allowed 557 runs so far this year (not including tonight, probably). it seems to me to be a stretch to chalk a full 10% of those runs up to one guy's arm.
2007-08-26 18:19:52
130.   trainwreck
I am not a Ned fan at all, but I do not blame him for Werth or Ross at all. And he did get Ethier in the Bradley trade.
2007-08-26 18:20:17
131.   JoeyP
122--But, seeing Repko and Pierre on the 40 man roster, and the other 3 on other teams does not make me feel better.
2007-08-26 18:20:26
132.   Ken Noe
Fourth inning and no pitching disaster? Wells is officially better than Tomko.
2007-08-26 18:20:58
133.   MMSMikey
.125

actually it would be

F4, K, K

2007-08-26 18:21:40
134.   bhsportsguy
If Kemp gets up this inning, I predict good things.
2007-08-26 18:22:54
135.   trainwreck
That was awesome!!

lol

2007-08-26 18:23:10
136.   Indiana Jon
Unbelievable.
2007-08-26 18:23:29
137.   Sam in SC
134 - that's a little more possible now than it was 30 seconds ago.
2007-08-26 18:23:30
138.   Bluebleeder87
wow, I think David We