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$12,300,000 Hiroki Kuroda
$10,000,000 Derek Lowe
$9,500,000 Brad Penny
$7,000,000 Esteban Loaiza
*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
Total: $39,300,000

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$1,925,000 Joe Beimel
$1,125,000 Scott Proctor
*$500,000 Jonathan Broxton
$500,000 Chan Ho Park
*$400,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
Total: $6,450,000

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$13,000,000 Rafael Furcal
$9,000,000 Jeff Kent
$8,500,000 Nomar Garciaparra
$8,000,000 Juan Pierre
$500,000 Russell Martin
*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
Total: $53,900,000

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$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
Total: $3,071,000

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*$400,000 Tony Abreu
*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
Total: $12,790,000

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$750,000 Odalis Perez
$540,000 Yhency Brazoban
$500,000 Randy Wolf
$487,500 Jason Repko
$135,225 Rudy Seanez
$100,000 Mike Lieberthal
$50,000 Ramon Martinez
Total: $3,562,725

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Starting Guns
2007-08-28 18:05
by Jon Weisman

2007 Dodger leaders in games started
(Position players including DH, through Monday)
129 Juan Pierre
120 Rafael Furcal
120 Russell Martin
111 Luis Gonzalez
110 Jeff Kent
99 Nomar Garciaparra
96 Andre Ethier
54 James Loney
44 Matt Kemp
40 Wilson Betemit
29 Ramon Martinez
27 Tony Abreu
13 Andy LaRoche
13 Mike Lieberthal
12 Shea Hillenbrand
12 Olmedo Saenz
11 Brady Clark
11 Wilson Valdez
3 Marlon Anderson
1 Mark Sweeney
1 Delwyn Young
Source: Baseball-Reference.com

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2007-08-28 18:10:13
1.   underdog
12 is 12 too many for the Tomato.
2007-08-28 18:14:53
2.   scareduck
Additional data point re Eric Enders' tech problem: Apple now outsells Gateway in the notebook space.

http://tinyurl.com/35oqf5

2007-08-28 18:17:01
3.   Eric Enders
Underused:
54 James Loney
44 Matt Kemp
40 Wilson Betemit
13 Andy LaRoche
13 Mike Lieberthal
1 Delwyn Young

Overused:
129 Juan Pierre
120 Russell Martin
111 Luis Gonzalez
99 Nomar Garciaparra
29 Ramon Martinez
12 Shea Hillenbrand
11 Wilson Valdez

2007-08-28 18:18:05
4.   Telemachos
Following up scareduck on the same subject:

Apple's laptops are really solid right now; very well-made and solid, and a great value (especially the MacBook). Plus, with Bootcamp, you can run XP or Vista on 'em. I think anyone considering a new laptop should take a look at them: you get dual-booting choices, so you can keep all your legacy Windows software, if you want -- plus you get all the Mac goodies as well.

My wife's been using XP/OSX on her first-generation MacBook since they first came out, and everything works like a charm.

2007-08-28 18:21:23
5.   Vishal
[3 ] used just right:

120 Rafael Furcal
110 Jeff Kent

2007-08-28 18:24:39
6.   Bluebleeder87
I really hope Grady goes into '08 with a better plan on resting Russell Martin (I know he's one of our better hitters but still) catchers simply need more rest time, period.
2007-08-28 18:31:44
7.   PlayTwo
I heard the folks on 1090 commenting that the Padres. playing the first place team, drew only 25k last night while the Dodgers, at home to the Nats, drew 47k. Must be the Dodger Dogs.
2007-08-28 18:33:10
8.   Bluebleeder87
Jeff Kent needs to retire, did you guys read Ken Gurniks "mail bag"? the guy is sticking to his theory on Nomars arm issues (he's got a great one IMO) the only reason the guy makes bad throws is because of the weird arm angle he uses, but Nomar still has a riffle no doubt.

ps what does he say about Billingsley? (maximum effort delivery, please) I sound grumpy but I'm not, just wanted to point that out. :o)

2007-08-28 18:35:38
9.   Bob Timmermann
8
I thought there was an unwritten rule about saying "arm angle" on Dodger Thoughts.

It can lead to rioting.

2007-08-28 18:38:34
10.   fanerman
The worst thing about Macs is their "I'm better than you" commercials. I despise that mentality because so many people seem to have it.

I like the customization of a PC. It's a pain at times, but I'm very particular about the way I like to do things. One of these days I need to make the jump to Linux.

2007-08-28 18:44:16
11.   Bob Timmermann
10
But you're discounting the fact that people who do own Macs, e.g. me, are indeed better human beings than you.

I'm sorry it took a series of whimsical commercials for you to come to this realization.

Interestingly, the scanner I have at home only works on my Mac if I operate it through a Microsoft Office product. Despite the fact that the box said "Mac OS X compliant."

I hadn't felt so let down since the GPS on my rental car told me to take a wrong turn on Sunday.

2007-08-28 18:44:35
12.   Bluebleeder87
9

I've yet to hear about that unwritten rule? but I'll ask around.

2007-08-28 18:44:58
13.   Jon Weisman
10 - Isn't that your own way of saying "I'm better than you." ?

:)

2007-08-28 18:47:04
14.   Bluebleeder87
You have to understand Fanerman he also drives a Prius (Hybrid) you do the math!
2007-08-28 18:48:19
15.   das411
Some serious intensity in Phila, tying the game in the bottom 8th on a hilarious little dribbler by Werth, but here comes Myers and he does not react well to non-save situations...

10 - fanerman, would that be similar to what I call the "FireFox Face" one gets right before you hear, "...you still use what??"?

Old Friend Marlon PHing as the final out here in the 9th...

2007-08-28 18:50:38
16.   Bob Timmermann
I also drive a Prius so I still have an edge on Fanerman.
2007-08-28 18:51:44
17.   dzzrtRatt
Man, you look at that list and the trade of Betemit just jumps out at you as a mistake. He started 1/3 of the games when he was here. As a PH, he surely was in another 1/3rd at least. He's an important missing piece of this offense -- the way this offense, in particular was constructed. I don't have a single thing against Proctor, but he wasn't worth losing the production we got from Betemit.

Betemit is gone for one reason: To unblock a place for Garciaparra. Ned old-schooled the team into third place.

2007-08-28 18:52:31
18.   fanerman
Ahhhh. This is the most attention I've received in years.

Let me try to rephrase...

1) I hate Mac commercials.
2) I like PC's because I'm anal about customization.
3) I think Macs are good computers for people who either: a) want something that works simply and mostly automatically, or b) are Unix masters. I happen to be neither of the two.

Convenience wins by default, right? Unless you really care about a particular option, you mostly just want the option that's most convenient. I just happen to care about computers. This, in fact, makes me inferior other people who have more important things to care about.

Therefore, I hate Mac commercials because they rub it in my face that I am inferior.

2007-08-28 18:52:45
19.   Icaros
Apparently, 13 games is more than enough starts. Because, according to Ken Gurnick, Andy LaRoche had every opportunity to settle in at third base, but he's now an injury question mark.
2007-08-28 18:53:26
20.   fanerman
15 Real nerds use Opera. I use Firefox because I like the extensions I've found.

16 Wrong. I don't even have a car =).

2007-08-28 18:56:54
21.   fanerman
18 And in case you're wondering*, I would like to learn Linux. However, I've had lots of hardware compatibility issues because my sound card doesn't really have drivers that work with Linux. I happen to have a very nice sound card (I like audio equipment), so being able to use it is a high priority for me.

*Well, actually, I'm sure most DTers have moved onto to bigger things than me. In that case, disregard this post.

2007-08-28 18:58:28
22.   Bluebleeder87
17

Ned did a radio interview about a month ago were he said the biggest disappointment of the year for him was Betemit (not exact words) I guess he was expecting plenty more from him.

2007-08-28 18:58:47
23.   Bob Timmermann
My last set of UCLA game tickets (for the game against Oregon the Saturday after Thanksgiving) have been sold and are on their merry way through FedEx. They will end up in Northridge after a trip to Memphis.
2007-08-28 19:00:43
24.   PDH5204
17 I rather highly doubt that Betemit mean the difference between 1st and 3rd. In other news, the DRays have put up 11 in the 8th and if only Josh Wilson hadn't been pinch-run-for, every DRay would have scored in the inning [one Joel Guzman scored in Wilson's place, and he's now at bat with a runner on 1st and two down].
2007-08-28 19:01:03
25.   GoBears
17. Yup.
2007-08-28 19:01:47
26.   scareduck
11 - But you're discounting the fact that people who do own Macs, e.g. me, are indeed better human beings than you.

Yes, exactly. But who am us, anyway?

2007-08-28 19:03:08
27.   scareduck
21 - what card is that?
2007-08-28 19:04:39
28.   fanerman
21 It's an M-Audio Revolution, but it's been modded with a nicer DAC, fancy capacitors, and RCA outputs. There are better cards out there, but I've stopped buying that sort of equipment, so I'd prefer to keep using it.
2007-08-28 19:04:52
29.   fanerman
28 That 21 should be a 27.
2007-08-28 19:05:11
30.   PDH5204
24 Excuse me, Greg Norton pinch hit for Wilson and then Guzman pinch ran for Norton.
2007-08-28 19:10:34
31.   Bluebleeder87
Zona strikes first 1-0 with 2 outs & a man at 3rd.
2007-08-28 19:13:47
32.   Bob Timmermann
Wilson Betemit is now 9 for 46 with the Yankees.

He has four walks and three homers.

2007-08-28 19:16:45
33.   das411
HOWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(off of Mota no less!)

2007-08-28 19:21:24
34.   Gen3Blue
Sam. you here? Are these guys this potent or are our pitchers throwing meatballs? 3 homers last night and this.
2007-08-28 19:21:28
35.   El Lay Dave
6 I would like to see Martin DH more in the interleague road games, but if Kent exercises his option, he'll get some of those, I'll bet.
2007-08-28 19:23:17
36.   Bluebleeder87
I hope Bills throws pure fastball in Ronnie Bellieard (sp)
2007-08-28 19:24:09
37.   ucladodger
great catch by James to save 2 runs. That was a really difficult play.
2007-08-28 19:25:45
38.   El Lay Dave
26 pitches is too many, but that inning could have been worse. On the bright side, 17 were strikes and the HBP were third and fourth pitches of the respective PAs.
2007-08-28 19:25:53
39.   Bluebleeder87
35

it sounds like a good plan but I really doubt Jeff Kent will exercise his option, I'm pretty sure he'll be playing 2nd base for us in '08.

2007-08-28 19:28:23
40.   Gen3Blue
Nice play by Loney--when will we get a summary of that fancy defensive survey.
2007-08-28 19:31:41
41.   Gen3Blue
Andre may have been safe but the Caps executed so well I have no argument.
2007-08-28 19:32:31
42.   Bluebleeder87
40

Loneys got great hands. I don't know, I think Jon just gave us the link for fun.

2007-08-28 19:33:37
43.   Jimi Shelter
26. Yes, exactly. But who am us, anyway?

And, how can you be in two places at once, when you're not anywhere at all?

(Here's hoping I got your Firesign Theatre ref right).

2007-08-28 19:34:28
44.   Bob Timmermann
Scareduck and Seitz will likely have their feud picked up again after tonight's outing by Ervin Santana in Seattle.
2007-08-28 19:36:55
45.   Gen3Blue
42 I just knew it!

Nook-love that tag.

2007-08-28 19:37:25
46.   natepurcell
andddd we're off to a 0-1 loss for Chad!
2007-08-28 19:37:26
47.   Eric Stephen
OF playing time distribution of the primary 4 Dodger OF in August (25 games entering tonight):

Pierre - 25 starts, .353/.383/.431 in 109 PA
Ethier - 19 starts (24g), .278/.333/.528 in 81 PA
Gonzo - 15 starts (20g), .237/.313/.339 in 67 PA
Kemp - 14 starts (21g), .333/.343/.492 in 67 PA

Tonight is Pierre's 72nd straight start, and he has started in 130 of 132 games this season.

2007-08-28 19:37:36
48.   Bluebleeder87
I just peaked at the Zona vs San Diego game & it's 2-1 Padres now, with Webb pitching non the less!
2007-08-28 19:38:01
49.   Gen3Blue
Ohh--you mean Nancy!
2007-08-28 19:41:27
50.   Gen3Blue
Its kind of sad that Martin might be leading in starts if we didn't have the iron man on our team.
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2007-08-28 19:44:52
51.   natepurcell
martin has been walking a ton lately.
2007-08-28 19:46:06
52.   DodgerBakers
quick question, Gameday says Kemp is playing 2nd? Did they mean Kent?

Thanks

2007-08-28 19:46:34
53.   Eric Stephen
Scully's call of Kent's 50-foot single there included "little nubber up along 3rd," which immediately brought to mind his excellent call of Game 6 of the 1986 NLCS.

"BEHIND THE BAG!" is my favorite non-Dodger Scully call of all time, and if I weren't so emotionally attached to October 15, 1988, it might be my favorite call ever. His voice as he shouts "here comes Knight and the Mets win it" captures the drama perfectly and is just superb.

Other great Scully calls that are always in my head:

-"2 and 2 to Harvey Kuenn..."
-"Hershiser looks in to make, what he hopes, will be his last pitch...fastball, got him lookin!"
-"...look who's coming up..."
-"Caught!" (The Dwight Clark game of all things)
-"if you have a sombrero, throw it to the sky"

2007-08-28 19:46:40
54.   Bluebleeder87
Hillenbrand don't fail me now!
2007-08-28 19:47:14
55.   El Lay Dave
52 Yes.
2007-08-28 19:47:25
56.   Bluebleeder87
52

typo I guess, It's Kent playing 2nd base.

2007-08-28 19:47:26
57.   Jimi Shelter
Ohhh---you mean the old same place!

C'mon, Shea!

2007-08-28 19:47:44
58.   El Lay Dave
Lucille II would hit a two-run single here. ;)
2007-08-28 19:47:53
59.   Gen3Blue
I had to erase my next comment.
2007-08-28 19:48:46
60.   El Lay Dave
And, amazingly, Hillendbrand does too!
2007-08-28 19:49:31
61.   Jimi Shelter
Careful, Loney. I don't want to hear Kevin Kennedy talking about your baserunning tonight!
2007-08-28 19:50:49
62.   El Lay Dave
61 I don't want to hear Kevin Kennedy talk about anything ever.
2007-08-28 19:51:05
63.   D4P
I don't think you should bunt on a 2-0 pitch.
2007-08-28 19:56:07
64.   Gen3Blue
You can wait in the sitting room...or sit in the waiting room.

I was hoping to get a bit more out of that second inning "World's Fair".

2007-08-28 19:58:17
65.   Sam DC
Just got in from watching the Red Sox/Yankees game with a friend. Wow, where the heck did Joba Chamberlain come from?

Bergmann is all over the place it seems.

2007-08-28 20:01:37
66.   Jimi Shelter
Time to cut him off at the past, Bills.
2007-08-28 20:02:45
67.   Gen3Blue
Sam, your guys are in pretty good shape.
They're either some pretty good young hitters, or Bills is throwing fluff.
2007-08-28 20:03:32
68.   Bluebleeder87
Looks like we got away with one...
2007-08-28 20:05:48
69.   Gen3Blue
Wow, you rarely see that bad a bunt.
2007-08-28 20:08:31
70.   natepurcell
that was very grizzly, veteran.
2007-08-28 20:09:07
71.   Eric Stephen
68 I thought Loney got his foot back on the bag in time. It was certainly close though.

Nice HR by Kent there, to pass Shooter McGavin on the all-time HR list.

2007-08-28 20:09:35
72.   Jimi Shelter
KENT!!!
2007-08-28 20:09:38
73.   Jimi Shelter
KENT!!!
2007-08-28 20:12:38
74.   overkill94
Man, I was expecting to see more kudos for Kent's double play last inning, I thought for sure it was going up the middle for a single and was really surprised that Kent not only knocked it down but got a double play out of it.
2007-08-28 20:13:20
75.   Bluebleeder87
71

It was a close call, it could have gone both ways, it's good it went our way.

2007-08-28 20:14:03
76.   blue22
71 - Shooter McGavin = Joe DiMaggio?
2007-08-28 20:14:16
77.   King of the Hobos
From today's notes:

"He's a threat to hit the ball out of the park and he's a threat to get base hits," said Little of Kemp. "He's exciting on the bases, at times you'll see a throw coming to the plate and he'll outrun the ball. He has a world of talent."

Also, as long as they're healthy, Abreu and Laroche will be here in September, although it doesn't sound like they will be here any sooner.

2007-08-28 20:15:08
78.   Jon Weisman
Looks like LaRoche and Garciaparra will return at about the same time.
2007-08-28 20:16:13
79.   blue22
76 - Ah, a "Bronx is Burning" reference. Nice one.
2007-08-28 20:16:35
80.   Eric Stephen
76 Christopher McDonald played both men, in Happy Gilmore and The Bronx is Burning, respectively.
2007-08-28 20:16:40
81.   Bluebleeder87
Kind of a weird triple from Bellieard.
2007-08-28 20:18:40
82.   Greg Brock
80 And also played Mel Allen in 61*

How about that? (obligatory)

2007-08-28 20:18:55
83.   Reddog
Does Kemp throw him out there?
2007-08-28 20:19:04
84.   natepurcell
belliard wouldn't have scored if we had ethier or kemp out there.
2007-08-28 20:19:27
85.   dagwich
Uh oh, Firesign lines are being dropped. Watch out. "Everything you know is wrong" -- certainly applies to Colletti.
2007-08-28 20:19:53
86.   Gen3Blue
Sam, you got reason for hope. Some of these guys can really smack it.
2007-08-28 20:20:17
87.   Eric Stephen
82 The thing I remember most about 61* (besides Barry Pepper looking remarkably similar to Maris) was the kink in Tom Candiotti's neck in his portrayal of Hoyt Wilhelm.
2007-08-28 20:21:17
88.   Bluebleeder87
man, La Roche is having a bad start to what should be a good career, with the shoulder injury last year & a disk problem this year, man!
2007-08-28 20:24:44
89.   Bluebleeder87
reading the L.A Times today it looks like Gonzalez is gonna stick around for a while, good thing it won't be with the Dodgers.
2007-08-28 20:25:44
90.   Gen3Blue
88 I know, early on he looked to surpass his brother, but now the odds are very small he will ever see the majors.
2007-08-28 20:26:52
91.   Sam DC
Climb aboard Gen3Blue -- although they do manage to be last in the majors in OPS and runs scored.
2007-08-28 20:27:10
92.   Jon Weisman
90 - I'll take those odds. He has already seen the majors, and he will see them again next week.
2007-08-28 20:28:45
93.   King of the Hobos
The Atkins/Sexton combo were once again impressive for Great Lakes.

Adkins: 3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 5 K
Sexton: 5 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K

Abreu already has 2 hits, including a double. Laroche has been hit by a pitch, and Young and Hu each have a single apiece.

2007-08-28 20:31:10
94.   Eric Stephen
90 Really? I'd be shocked if he doesn't get at least 250 PA in 2008. If not with the Dodgers, he will with some team.
2007-08-28 20:32:22
95.   natepurcell
but now the odds are very small he will ever see the majors.

thats a tad pessimistic. Most likely he's going to be the starting 3b next year.

2007-08-28 20:32:48
96.   Gen3Blue
92 Jon I hope you are right. I have too many years of seeing bad outcomes.
2007-08-28 20:33:11
97.   natepurcell
93

sexton has really grabbed my attention. that k/bb ratio is sexy. scouts say he is alot like bronson arroyo right now. He's 6'6 and pretty skinny so if he could add weight, he could out to be something.

2007-08-28 20:34:25
98.   Gen3Blue
95 and Nate too, lord I hope anyone but me is right. Whats in the bag --Danger?
2007-08-28 20:39:24
99.   Bluebleeder87
I wonder if Bob or anybody else saw the Total Eclipse yesterday.
2007-08-28 20:41:56
100.   Eric Stephen
Furcal and Kent have been a busy duo tonight!
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2007-08-28 20:42:14
101.   Bluebleeder87
Kent almost messed that one up.
2007-08-28 20:42:59
102.   King of the Hobos
Cameron homers to tie it up 3-3 in San Diego.
2007-08-28 20:45:50
103.   Gen3Blue
I don't care to review the play at first. As for the eclipse, I looked at 2:00am nothing, and fell asleep til 5:00am--nothing, from what others said on the E. coast it was impossible to see any of it here.
2007-08-28 20:49:07
104.   Eric Stephen
Khalil Greene's single makes it 4-3 Padres.
2007-08-28 20:50:12
105.   Andrew Shimmin
I stayed up for the eclipse. Was flagging by two, but went for a walk, and got to enjoy full eclipsilation. First time in a long while I regretted selling my telescope.
2007-08-28 20:50:14
106.   Eric Stephen
Martin is either great at masking pain, or he is the toughest man alive.

Probably both.

2007-08-28 20:50:25
107.   sydneydodger
we (Sydney Australia) had a great view of the eclipse at around 7.30 till 10 last night. Got a great blood orange moon.
2007-08-28 20:52:10
108.   Gen3Blue
So Bergmann is still in there. We are slipping in our goal of getting into bullpens.
2007-08-28 20:53:54
109.   Eric Stephen
The Padres refuse to make an out in the 6th.
2007-08-28 20:54:15
110.   Gen3Blue
106 definitely both! I can't imagine the aches he lives with.
2007-08-28 20:54:51
111.   Icaros
Mmm...blood orange.
2007-08-28 20:55:56
112.   Marty
106 Kent has got to get some toughness points for not missing a game after a beaning and being productive to boot. I've got to stand up and clap for him.
2007-08-28 20:55:58
113.   Eric Stephen
Sure, I wish he never, ever put on a Dodger uniform, but that was a heck of play by Hillenbrand.
2007-08-28 20:56:31
114.   Jimi Shelter
With all these Firesign refs, I thought we'd see Procter & Bergmann in the same inning....
2007-08-28 20:56:56
115.   dagwich
111 No doubt being from Oz he meant "bloody orange".
2007-08-28 20:57:20
116.   Sam DC
That'd be Batista's first home run this year I believe.
2007-08-28 20:57:39
117.   Eric Stephen
Wow, that was anticlimactic.

An opposite field HR with that batting stance?

2007-08-28 20:57:40
118.   natepurcell
unbelievable.
2007-08-28 20:58:14
119.   Jimi Shelter
Ouch! I'm too tired for a tie. Let's go, Dodgers!
2007-08-28 20:58:16
120.   Gen3Blue
Oh heck. Bills can throw at least 120 as that has been his style. I've been trying to put down Hillenbran all night, and he has become a Loney tonight, and deserves much better treatment.
Sam you have a bunch of rakers from what I can see.
2007-08-28 20:58:28
121.   Frip
K, we got ourselves a ballgame.
2007-08-28 20:58:51
122.   scareduck
Well, hidee ho.
2007-08-28 20:59:12
123.   Sam DC
The Nats chatters now wonder if Ned Colletti might be interested in Tony Batista's veteran prowess.
2007-08-28 20:59:31
124.   Eric Stephen
Perfect opportunity for Kemp to pinch HR for Billingsley in the bottom of the 7th, then take over for Gonzo in LF.
2007-08-28 20:59:47
125.   confucius
Good grief.
2007-08-28 21:00:26
126.   scareduck
Perhaps we can hope that JPie will crash himself into oblivion.

What a bad route to the ball.

2007-08-28 21:02:14
127.   Bluebleeder87
105 ,107

I was probably snoring & drooling while you guys enjoyed the eclipse, I wanted to stay up though!

2007-08-28 21:05:08
128.   Gen3Blue
If we can stay tied, what do you do? Once you go through Biemel, Broxton and Saito, where do you go-should you use these guys if you are tied? I guess I am glad it is not my decision.

I also guess I am for the Pads over the D-backs for now. When do you change? Who knows! Who cares! Will Doc technical help Mark Time?

2007-08-28 21:07:26
129.   Bluebleeder87