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Third Base?
2007-08-30 12:05
by Jon Weisman

As soon as next week, after rosters expand, Nomar Garciaparra, Andy LaRoche and Tony Abreu could join the Dodgers' active squad. Who should be the regular at third base?

2007 statistics
PlayerLevelABOBPSLGOPS+EQA
Tony AbreuMLB118.328.41591.262
Tony AbreuAAA197.398.508
Nomar GarciaparraMLB397.326.36378.247
Shea HillenbrandMLB252.274.33763.216/.232
Shea HillenbrandAAA47.271.361
Andy LaRocheMLB38.436.26388.284
Andy LaRocheAAA244.392.578

Garciaparra will get dibs, but if he's healthy, Andy LaRoche should get a long look. His walks earlier in the season with the Dodgers were underrated, and now his power has come on.

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2007-08-30 12:12:21
1.   Gagne55
LaRoche. I have made my choice.
2007-08-30 12:12:44
2.   bhsportsguy
Despite Shea's heroics this week, it is unfortunate that Andy LaRoche wasn't available to take advantage of the situation.
2007-08-30 12:14:49
3.   Robert Daeley
LaRöché
2007-08-30 12:14:58
4.   caseybarker
LaRoche, with Abreu subbing for Kent during the late innings.
2007-08-30 12:15:24
5.   Jacob L
Abreu is having an absolutely sick year at AAA. He's also got the best glove in the bunch. Just sayin.
2007-08-30 12:15:38
6.   paranoidandroid
We are 10-4 with Shea. Maybe not because of him, but I play the streak like we did with Marlon last year.

LaRoche the rest of the way if we fall out of the race for sure, but Shea is my man.

2007-08-30 12:16:40
7.   LogikReader
nah, let's go with Andy. I want to see this power everyone speaks of.
2007-08-30 12:17:53
8.   LogikReader
Is it too early to talk about tomorrow's game?

I predict at least 5 runs will be allowed by Wells, not sure why, but I have a feeling.

[Dodgers could still win the game though... the Padre bullpen is tired]

2007-08-30 12:18:01
9.   underdog
What, no love for Wilsón Valdéz?
2007-08-30 12:18:41
10.   paranoidandroid
Abreu will get a start or two at second and perhaps short. I don't see him starting at third.

Nomar and his first pitch fly-outs are rally killers. I personally don't miss his bat right now. If he gets hot, ride him. If not, Shea is my man.

I'm not even sure LaRoche will get a call up.

2007-08-30 12:18:48
11.   Benaiah
6 - The difference between the white-plasma-hot-so-bright-you-gotta-use-shades Marlon Anderson last year and the team coincidentally winning while Shea is flailing away is night and day. Go with the hot hand, but not the lucky rabbit's foot.
2007-08-30 12:19:37
12.   paranoidandroid
Ledezma vs. Wells? Is the run line 15? It should be.
2007-08-30 12:19:43
13.   Bob Timmermann
So if Hillenbrand had hit better at Portland would he be sharing time with Kouzmanoff at San Diego? And where would Morgan Ensberg be?
2007-08-30 12:20:41
14.   ImprobableImpossible
Alex Rodriguez.

Oh, you mean this season...

2007-08-30 12:21:42
15.   Shotupthemiddle
I'm going with picking up Julio Franco. This PVL is not a trifling to be messed with....
2007-08-30 12:23:17
16.   Jacob L
Oops. Phillies rallying again. BTW, is it hot enough yet?
2007-08-30 12:24:37
17.   Bob Timmermann
The enhanced Gameday today for the Phillies-Mets game has more holes in the time-space continuum than a poorly plotted Star Trek episode.
2007-08-30 12:25:16
18.   paranoidandroid
13 Hillebrand only got a shot due to injury. San Diego made their choice at the time and Ensberg is the guy, but they didn't have injuries like we did with Andy and Nomar.

Our team is finding ways to win while Shea is in the line-up. Perhaps not because of him, but certainly not despite him.

He's made a few great plays with the glove and he had 3 RBIs yesterday including the game winner.

4 hits in two days gents. He is my guy while we are making a run. Ride the momentum.

2007-08-30 12:26:31
19.   Jacob L
8-5 Phils with 2 out in the phiphth. They're having a Dodger rally, a walk and 5 singles.
2007-08-30 12:28:35
20.   bhsportsguy
Roster Thoughts.

The Dodgers have 5 players on the 15 day disabled list, 1 of them is going to come off in the next week or so (Nomar), one is not available (Yhency Brazoban) and the other three are in some type of rehab (Tsao, Wolf and Kuo).

Of the players that the Dodgers are thinking of adding to the roster, five of them are not on the 40 man roster (Meloan, Hu, Lindsay, Valdez, and probably another catcher)

So the question for Ned, Kim Ng, DeJon Watson and the rest of the front office, outside of Yhency, who else do you put on the 60 day DL (not necessarily ruling them out for the season, Wolf would be eligible to come off immediately, Kuo in the first week of September, Tsao, who is probably out anyway, not until the middle of September)

In the end, I think we end up just adding Meloan, Hu, Valdez and a catcher to the roster, they DFA Roberto Hernandez, they transfer Yhency and Tsao to the 60 day DL and that wait and see what happens with Wolf and Kuo.

I am only writing about players not already on the 40 man roster, Abreu, LaRoche, Young, Hull, etc. are already on the the roster.

2007-08-30 12:28:42
21.   Bob Timmermann
19
The city planners were right. The Portland area was urban planning nirvana!

I also sensed good zoning laws.

2007-08-30 12:28:56
22.   Benaiah
He has a line of .255/.271/.382 for a 67 OPS+ with the Dodgers and 1 HR (yesterday) in 55 at bats. We are winning in spite of his black hole presence in the lineup. He makes Wilson Betemit look like Alex Rodriquez.
2007-08-30 12:31:12
23.   Benaiah
22 is in reference to 18 and the "he" in question is Mr. Hillenbrand.
2007-08-30 12:32:05
24.   regfairfield
18 Are you really suggessting using Hillenbrand over LaRoche or even, well, anyone?

Those four hits in two days has brought his numbers with the Dodgers to .255/.271/.382. He's also a god-awful fielder.

I recommend reading this article on why riding the hot hand is a terrible idea:

http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/20/projecting-future-performance/

2007-08-30 12:32:07
25.   Jacob L
Hey everybody, Bob's been to Oregon! Glad you liked it. Did you see that skyway/tram thingy? Our consultant from there was really excited about it.
2007-08-30 12:32:14
26.   King of the Hobos
20 Hamulack, who hasn't pitched since April anyways, will be dumped I would assume.
2007-08-30 12:32:45
27.   still bevens
13 I dont think production was issue with Hillenbrand on SD's AAA team. I think his contract had a 10 day out clause, and once SD picked up Ensberg, he exercised it.
2007-08-30 12:38:28
28.   Eric Enders
20 The thing is, if they were going to dump Hernandez in favor of Meloan, wouldn't they have done it already? Ever since we got Hernandez poeple have been saying that Meloan would have to wait until the rosters expand to be called up. If we were going to DFA Hernandez anyway what would be the point of waiting until Sept. 1?
2007-08-30 12:41:08
29.   regfairfield
Is there any reason why you would DFA a guy in September?
2007-08-30 12:41:20
30.   Xeifrank
from previous thread:
* 146. Gagne55
130 Ah so it is then. Oh, and accoring to his bio, Hong-Chi Kuo's name is pronounced "kwo." Xeifrank has been pwn3d. *

I've been pwn3d? Is that like being "served"? When I read this, it reminded me of the kids on South Park getting "served". haha!

His last name is not pronounced "kwo". It may be spelled with a "K" in wade-giles, and he may or may not mind it being pronounced "Kwo", just for the convenience of english speakers, but believe me it is pronounced "Gwo". vr, Xei

2007-08-30 12:41:23
31.   Jacob L
25 O.k. I just saw Bob's Griddle post about his trip to Oregon. But I could have scooped him 2 weeks ago.
2007-08-30 12:41:47
32.   LogikReader
off topic: I had a chance to hear a Demo of the "new" American Top 40 with Seacrest. It's worse than I thought. Interviews? Gossip News? No LDD? No jingles? good lord
2007-08-30 12:42:04
33.   AlmostGagne
In Buster Olney's latest ESPN Insider blog, he speculates that Eric Chavez may be traded in the off-season as a means for the A's to cut their payroll.

"But he would be a very nice luxury item for a large-budget contender -- he bears some risk, but he's not outrageously priced, has loads of big-game experience, and is known as a good clubhouse guy. He would make a lot of sense for the Dodgers, in their never-ending quest for a third baseman; for the Yankees, if Alex Rodriguez decides, in the end, to opt out of his contract; or the Red Sox, if they want an alternative to giving Mike Lowell a three-year deal."

Just throwing it out there since we're talking about the third baseman issue...

2007-08-30 12:42:22
34.   Eric Enders
29 Only the reason expressed in 20 : to create room on your 40-man roster for September callups.
2007-08-30 12:45:56
35.   regfairfield
30 I know you're right about this, but I could only think of this:

Mayor Quimby: Now, Mr. Larry White!
Barry White: Actually, it's Barry White.
Mayor Quimby: Well, it says here 'Larry.'
Barry White: I think I know my own name.
Mayor Quimby: Yeah? Well, we'll just see.

34 Ah, duh.

2007-08-30 12:47:27
36.   ImprobableImpossible
Can someone clarify?

At what point does a player have to be on the 40-man roster to be eligible for postseason play?

Is it August 31 or September 1?

2007-08-30 12:47:33
37.   King of the Hobos
Regarding the conversation a few days ago regarding managers and statistics, it appears that Cecil Cooper may "get it." A quote on batting Pence lead off from him in today's Houston Chronicle:

"He's a kid that is pretty aggressive," Cooper said of Pence. "His on-base percentage is, I think, near the .350 mark. So you kind of want that guy up there to have an on-base percentage somewhere in that area. He's pretty close to that. He's gotten on base quite a bit for us this year.
"He's an exciting kind of player, so why not give him the opportunity to create some of that excitement?"

He at least mentioned OBP as important for a lead off man. Looking at the Houston roster, especially from an OBP/speed perspective, Pence is easily the best choice (only Berkman has a legitimately better OBP, and as far as speed, you don't want Lee, Lamb, or Scott leading off). Admittedly, Pence hasn't walked much in the Majors, although he did so more often in the minors, and while I would personally probably put Lamb lead off, this is still far better than batting Biggio's .286 OBP lead off.

2007-08-30 12:47:40
38.   LeeLacy
LogikReader,

In response to your question from the previous post, both Game 6 of the '75 WS and Game 6 of the '86 WS are available on iTunes.

There are a total of 27 classic games available on iTunes at the moment, and they seem to add more every few weeks. I've got to imagine they'll add the 4+1 game at some point.

2007-08-30 12:47:55
39.   D4P
I visited my local Jamba Juice today. The smoothie formerly known as "Protein Berry Pizazz" is now known as "Protein Berry Workout," minus the "Nike" that is included in the moniker in the Bay Area.
2007-08-30 12:50:11
40.   LogikReader
LeeLacy

Very cool! I wasn't aware that non WS games were part of it. I should get an Itunes account... this could be addictive.

2007-08-30 12:51:09
41.   LogikReader
D4P, you know, the strangest thing is the Bay Area Jamba Juice stores use PAPER CUPS! bum bum bummmmmm
2007-08-30 12:52:04
42.   trainwreck
We do not need a third baseman for the future, we got LaRoche.

No signing a third baseman.

2007-08-30 12:52:12
43.   LogikReader
Bob, should we be enjoying this Phillies sweep? On the one hand, the Phils are still in the WC, on the other, the Mets broadcasters must be seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeething.
2007-08-30 12:52:13
44.   King of the Hobos
36 As I understand it, and correct me if I'm wrong, a player needs to be on the 25 man roster at 11:59pm EST on August 31st. However, there's always the Krod loophole.
2007-08-30 12:53:03
45.   trainwreck
41
I have only seen styrofoam.
2007-08-30 12:54:06
46.   LogikReader
San Francisco proper may be the only participant: I went to a Jamba Juice downtown and received a drink in a paper cup... it was a whole new world for me =)
2007-08-30 12:55:10
47.   D4P
41
I can't remember whether the JJ in Berkeley used paper or styrofoam. I'm also not sure which is less "green". Paper obviously uses trees, by I think styrofoam is tough to get rid of.
2007-08-30 12:55:39
48.   Vishal
[42 ] two words: a. rod.
2007-08-30 12:55:55
49.   D4P
47cont.
Can't remember whether the JJ at Westfield Centre in SF used paper or styrofoam either.
2007-08-30 12:56:06
50.   LogikReader
-- it was early July when I went, and as I remember it, they barely switched, per a notice on the wall.
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2007-08-30 12:56:42
51.   Bob Timmermann
43
I've been dipping in, but the Yankees-Red Sox game is the HD one.

However, I'm not smart enough to appreciate Ron Darling.

2007-08-30 12:56:55
52.   Disabled List
I just got back from a recent trip to Portland myself. Great town, AMAZING beer.

What Napa is to wine, Oregon is to beer. Take my word for it.

2007-08-30 12:57:24
53.   regfairfield
48 Sadly, Loaiza pretty much confirms that we won't be able to afford A-Rod unless we want to push the payroll into the 130 million range.
2007-08-30 12:57:46
54.   ImprobableImpossible
44
Isn't the "KRod loophole" the fact that he was on the 40-man? So the Angels brought him up in mid-Sept and it didn't matter? Am I way off here?

Obviously, I ask because of Meloan and a potentially similar scenario. Not saying he's gonna set the world on fire like KRod did. But shouldn't the Dodgers at least have this option?

So, do they have to get him on the 25-man by August 31?
Or on the 40-man by Aug. 31?
Or on the 40-man by Sept. 1?

2007-08-30 13:00:16
55.   fanerman
42 48 A-Rod is an SS =).
2007-08-30 13:01:24
56.   rockmrete
Is it possible that Meloan does not get called up to avoid the service time? I don't think he is on the 40 man roster yet.
2007-08-30 13:01:48
57.   still bevens
37 Garner clearly doesn't value OBP as a trait of his leadoff man. He had Taveras leading off before the Astros traded him.
2007-08-30 13:03:35
58.   LogikReader
51

Bob, even if the Phils pull it off (the sweep), I don't think it's anything to worry about. The Phils almost always find a way to blow their shot at the WC.

2007-08-30 13:03:41
59.   Bob Timmermann
Joba Chamberlain gets his first major league ejection before giving up a run.
2007-08-30 13:05:00
60.   paranoidandroid
To clarify my position on Shea, I simply mean that he is our guy for now, not the guy in the future.

He plays this weekend on Friday for sure, then we evaluate from there depending on how we are playing and how he is playing. That doesn't mean LaRoche doesn't get a start, it just means that Shea has the job while Nomar is down and the team is winning.

He isn't lighting it up, but he is not hurting us either. He's been solid. You don't have to like the player, you don't have to like the move Ned made, but you have to like how we've come alive a bit since he's arrived. He might have nothing to do with it, but while we are winning, he stays in the line-up most days in my opinion.

Unless we get A-Rod, we aren't going after a third baseman this off-season. LaRoche in our man unless we get A-Rod and then trade him.

2007-08-30 13:05:45
61.   Bob Timmermann
58
I would hope that the Phillies would knock the Mets completely out of the playoffs.

If the Mets missed the playoffs, I would be very happy. I would love to watch Baseballprimer melt down.

2007-08-30 13:06:31
62.   Sam DC
I would love to watch Baseballprimer melt down.

Beware the dark side, Bob.

2007-08-30 13:07:25
63.   Bob Timmermann
If Hillenbrand keeps this up, we could all forget about Tyler Houston.

And wouldn't that be a good thing?

2007-08-30 13:08:45
64.   regfairfield
60 How is a guy with a .272 on base and no D not hurting us?
2007-08-30 13:09:29
65.   King of the Hobos
54 I'm not sure if there's a rule for the 40 man roster. The playoff roster is set as the 25 man roster on Aug 31st, and any additions are made using the Krod loophole. I'm sure someone else here would know far better than I do.
2007-08-30 13:10:55
66.   jtrichey
Regardless of who should play, is there anyone here who actually thinks Nomar won't get the majority of starts at 3rd in September? Nomar will probably start all but 1 game a week, and Hillenbrand will get the other until we are eliminated/clinch.
2007-08-30 13:11:06
67.   Bob Timmermann
62

Sorry, I forgot. I'm not supposed to hate things. I will be taken to the woodshed by a commenter who has the same initials as the Dodgers centerfielder.

2007-08-30 13:12:18
68.   Eric Enders
54 No. The K-Rod loophole works like this:

If someone on your 40-man roster is on the DL when the postseason rolls you're allowed to replace him with anyone who was in your organization as of August 31. They do not need to have been on your active major league roster at any time, nor do they need to be on your 40-man roster. They just had to be in your organization by 8/31. Also, you can only replace a pitcher with another pitcher and a hitter with another hitter. So in the unlikely event that the Dodgers make the postseason and want to use a nonroster player like, say, the Minotaur in the playoffs, all they would need to do was put Jason Schmidt or Yhency on their playoff roster and then deem the Minotaur as his replacement.

So for Loaiza to be eligible for postseason play, one of two things has to happen:

1) He must be assigned to a minor league roster by Aug. 31 and then can be recalled to the majors at any time after that, or

2) Somebody like Eric Stults must be optioned down and Loaiza must be on the Dodgers' active MLB roster by Aug. 31.

Option #1 is more attractive because it would let the Dodgers keep Eric Stults continuously instead of losing him until Sept. 4. However, it raises questions of whether Loaiza would accept a minor league assignment, even one that was purely procedural.

2007-08-30 13:12:32
69.   paranoidandroid
I think A-Rod for us is a very long shot. We'll have pitching issues in '09 and that money we would have to spend on A-Rod would limit the pursuit of a Johann.

I see standing pat at third and waiting for Nomar's contract to be up. LaRoche would get a shot to make the team but likely be the Loney of '08, having to push himself from Vegas and take Nomar's spot. Abreu is our Ramon Martinez of next year with more starts at second to groom him to be Kent's replacement in '09. Assuming Kent wants to play.

2007-08-30 13:13:29
70.   Benaiah
53 - Without Nomar, Pierre and Schmidt the Dodgers could easily afford A-Rod. If they could even find a taker for Furcal (his 13 million dollar contract doesn't seem that bad for one year) then it would be borderline doable. I can't see it happening, but surely there is a way to carve some fat off of this budget.

One thing that people underestimate is that Ned works with a much larger budget than Depo did. Depo never spent more than 11 million on a player and generally kept the payroll under 90 million. Ned signed Schmidt for almost as much in 3 years (51 million) as Drew would have made in 5 (55 million). Not to mention Furcal (39 over 3), the Player (45 over 5) and a few of players making Lowe yearly money over short contracts (Wolf, Nomar, Kent).

2007-08-30 13:14:52
71.   Sam DC
I'll confess that, subject to the health of all involved, 66 does seem to have a certain persuasiveness to it.
2007-08-30 13:16:33
72.   LogikReader
As much as I want A-Rod, remember this: Pitching beats Defense, when you get right down to it.

I still think it can be done without sacrificing starting pitching.

2007-08-30 13:17:32
73.   Jacob L
69 That would certainly be amusing. We need to keep Nomar for 09 so he can block a better player at a third position (2nd?).
2007-08-30 13:17:48
74.   Sam DC
70 , on the other hand, seems a bit, well, far fetched. To whom exactly are we auctioning our overpaid centerfielder, our injured third baseman, and our injured starting pitcher?
2007-08-30 13:18:09
75.   Bob Timmermann
OF Marlon with a pinch double to make it 8-6 and the bases are loaded for Chavez against Alfonseca in the 8th.
2007-08-30 13:18:34
76.   King of the Hobos
68 I assume there's a reason, but why couldn't Stults be demoted to the GCL, which should finish their season tomorrow? Wouldn't that allow him to be recalled on the 1st?

Or he could just pitch 5 innings on Friday after Boomer is blown out of the game and wouldn't be able to pitch until the 4th anyways.

2007-08-30 13:19:06
77.   Bob Timmermann
74
I don't know? The Orioles? They're not picky.
2007-08-30 13:19:44
78.   regfairfield
I did mess up the math a little. The Dodgers will come into 2008 with as little as a 93 million dollar payroll, so A-Rod is potentially doable, albeit that would take down the entire budget for the year.
2007-08-30 13:20:29
79.   Bob Timmermann
Eights are wild in Philly.
2007-08-30 13:21:28
80.   King of the Hobos
Also, speaking of GCL, they tied their playoff series today 1-1. They won the game 5-0, with big contributions from Withrow, Justin Miller, and Lambo:
Withrow: 2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K
Miller: 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
Lambo: 2-3, HR, SF
2007-08-30 13:21:29
81.   Sam DC
JD Drew has another rough day.

Two of my best friends are longtime members of The Nation. Man they hate me about this Drew thing. First, I told them how pleased they'd be with Drew's basic production. Then, I told them that even if he wasn't hitting, he'd at least get on base a lot (not in the "signing Juan Pierre because he gets on base a lot" sense) and that plus his D would make him valuable. Then, I told them there was no way this awful run could keep up all year.

Now I tell them he must be secretly injured and afraid to tell anyone lest the heckling start up all over again.

But boy are they mad at me.

2007-08-30 13:22:09
82.   Bob Timmermann
And it's 9-8 Mets after a stolen base of third and a throwing error by Ruiz trying to catch Reyes.
2007-08-30 13:23:19
83.   Bob Timmermann
Alfonseca is horrible, but the guy warming up to replace him is Jose Mesa.

This can't be a good thing.

2007-08-30 13:23:29
84.   paranoidandroid
64
I repeat/defend myself for the final time and I'm willing to on my own in this regard.

Shea has not hurt us. He has helped us. Just like Wells did with his bunt, the energy we didn't have is building. The new blood and desire to win have helped. You cannot measure that by statistics alone.

Plus Shea has smashed a few line drives that have found gloves. He isn't our savior, but I prefer to ride this out with him than to throw in a rusty Nomar. Plus, Nomar hasn't run yet, has he? So the choice is between Shea and LaRoche. Shea's been through a lot these last two years, he has something to prove.

I remind you all that we are on a four game win streak. Be happy for now and let's rally behind the guys on the field.

P.S. I've not worn my Slappy McPop-up shirt in a month.

2007-08-30 13:23:53
85.   Eric Enders
76 I have no idea. It's possible that there's some sort of rule prohibiting the team from demoting a player of his experience to the GCL, I really don't know. But yeah, the GCL finishes its season tomorrow.
2007-08-30 13:24:30
86.   Jacob L
81 Unless "Sam DC" is an alias for "Scott Boras," I don't see how its your fault.
2007-08-30 13:24:53
87.   LogikReader
Gameday is stuck again... @#@$%%!
2007-08-30 13:25:50
88.   LogikReader
paranoidandroid, don't forget Rule 8...
2007-08-30 13:26:50
89.   Bob Timmermann
87
Let's see
Anderson doubled in two
Reyes got an IBB
Chavez singled in two
Reyes stole third and scored on an error
Wright walked
Mesa in to pitch to Delgado
One out, 9-8 Mets in the 8th.
2007-08-30 13:27:01
90.   LogikReader
gameday is back... wow this Phillies game is like a repeat of yesterday's Dodger Game
2007-08-30 13:28:14
91.   Benaiah
74 - My point wasn't that we can afford A-Rod because we can get rid of those people, more that if we didn't have them in the first place then A-Rod would fit into the budget.

Re-reading it looks like I am calling for dropping that payroll, but I am under no delusions. No one is paying for those players (besides the McCourts that is). Furcal could possibly be jettisoned, and if the gods were very, very kind maybe Nomar retires. More likely though, all of them are back next year.

I would much, much rather vastly overpay for greatness than slightly overpay for mediocrity . Nomar, Pierre and Schmidt took up 33 million dollars in payroll this year, and contributed, well, nothing. A-Rod takes up 25 million, but at least you know what you paid for.

2007-08-30 13:28:15
92.   Bob Timmermann
Excuse me, Mesa was pitching to Beltran.

Who walked.

And now Delago is batting with the bases loaded.

2007-08-30 13:28:24
93.   Vishal
53 i'll go on record with saying that i wouldn't mind a $130 million payroll with a-rod. just in case frank mccourt is wondering :)

besides, if picking up loaiza means casting off wolf, then isn't it a wash financially? or do we owe wolf guaranteed money next year. i don't think we do, right?

2007-08-30 13:28:48
94.   Sam DC
Reyes stole third and scored on an error

Someone better go check on Joe Morgan.

2007-08-30 13:28:48
95.   paranoidandroid
I think there is a chance that Stults might stick around and Roberto will retire tomorrow. That is my hope. But Loazia will be activated tomorrow and we need to make both a major league spot and a 40 man spot available. That makes Roberto retiring look pretty good as Stults would be sent down, but we still have a 40 man issue.

We would want a back-up to Wells tomorrow, he will have a very short leash. But in a big game, do we want Stults in there anyway? It will be interesting to see.

Prediction: Shea has two more hits tomorrow and a few RBI's. DT posters buy me lots of beers in October.

2007-08-30 13:30:26
96.   Eric Enders
95 As long as Tim Hamulack is still around, there is no 40-man roster issue.
2007-08-30 13:31:37
97.   regfairfield
84 Once again, Shea Hillenbrand is producing nothing for the Dodgers in a tangible sense. Nothing. I don't even know where you think this energy