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*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
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*$400,000 Matt Kemp
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*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
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Arms for the Poor
2007-08-31 08:05
by Jon Weisman

One of the points I've tried to make all summer is that as much as the Dodgers have struggled to pull together a starting rotation after injuries, the team is not alone. That's the basis for my latest column for SI.com:

The season's on the line. Every game counts. And so, of course, that's why you've been seeing Fabio Castro, Horacio Ramirez and Jo-Jo Reyes on the mound.

Is this Hell? No, it's the stretch run. There's never enough starting pitching in Major League Baseball. You know that. But when August comes, there really isn't enough starting pitching.

Every winter, teams begin the dogged search for strong-willed men to fill out their starting rotations. Every spring, optimism reigns as rested arms report to Arizona and Florida with "better mechanics" and "clearer focus."

And then, in the heat of summer, attrition sets in. Maneuvering a starting rotation through a baseball season is like a slow crawl through the desert. There isn't a fan out there who hasn't cringed at the sight of one of his team's starting pitchers lately. ...

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2007-08-31 08:17:28
1.   LogikReader
contraction?
2007-08-31 08:25:35
2.   LogikReader
Very refreshing article, Jon. I feel like maybe the recent expansion hurt a lot of the pitching depth across the board. I'm glad the Dodgers are not alone.
2007-08-31 08:28:55
3.   berkowit28
The SI.com link just seems to point right back to here.
2007-08-31 08:33:05
4.   Bob Timmermann
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/jon_weisman/08/30/pitching/index.html
2007-08-31 08:51:20
5.   Jon Weisman
3 - Did you click on it? It's the link to the chart.
2007-08-31 08:52:20
6.   Dodgers49
Sunny days for Bradley in San Diego

>> "Milton brings a different look," the Padres' general manager, Kevin Towers, told San Diego Union columnist Nick Canepa. "He plays hard. He can ignite a club just how he plays. He has awakened the club. Since he's been here, our lineup has been completely different. He fits in well here. I like his intensity. I like a guy who gets angry."

http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/ci_6765843

I wonder what Jeff Kent thinks of this. :-)

2007-08-31 08:52:39
7.   Sushirabbit
Eric, if it's not too late, I nominate 'ol stubblebeard, Burleigh Grimes.

I'm trying to think of the last great pitcher the Dodger's traded for or signed as a FA. Just seems like they have bad luck.

2007-08-31 08:54:34
8.   jtrichey
7 Brad Penny? Derek Lowe? Kevin Brown?
2007-08-31 08:54:50
9.   MLKaplan43
I don't buy the expansion argument. Shouldn't it also have hurt offensive depth?

I think the change is due to advances in/attitudes towards training, medicine, and pharmecueticals (legal and non). This has helped pitchers too, as guys throw harder than they used to, but these advances won't necessarily give you more bite on your curveball, and so on.

2007-08-31 08:55:25
10.   underdog
5 It's broken for me, too, Jon. Just points to this page. Maybe just one bit of HTML needs to be tweaked?

---

Man, I'm excited and nervous about the weekend series.

2007-08-31 08:58:05
11.   Jon Weisman
Sorry - my bad. I misunderstood. It's fixed.
2007-08-31 09:03:10
12.   underdog
6 Bradley's the one I'd be worried about, especially tonight, given he's 11-for-23 (.478) with three doubles and a homer all-time against Wells, and has been hot, and it's his former team. I'd guess there's some animosity there.
2007-08-31 09:04:28
13.   old dodger fan
7 Define "great". Maddux, Saito?
2007-08-31 09:08:22
14.   ryu
12 Why don't we put in Roberto Hernandez to bean Bradley, so they can get into a tussle and get tossed? There, problem solved.
2007-08-31 09:14:09
15.   kinbote
it's real hard to be optimistic about beating the padres head-to-head, especially given the three game hole we're in. as much as i like arizona, i think our best chance for making the postseason is for them to run out of gas and we pass them for the wild card. of course, philly's recent streak makes them scary, and their schedule is looking favorable down the stretch. and if we're counting on the mets to fold we're in worse shape than we think.

so i guess what i'm hoping is for arizona to collapse, and for us to marginally outperform philly, which will probaby mean putting up a pretty solid final month. with 29 to play, we just might have to 20-9 (or close to it) to stay alive.

who's for a one-game wild-card playoff with the phils?

2007-08-31 09:20:58
16.   LAT
If you like fishing, there are some nice pictures of Brad Penny fishing with some city kids at Dodgers.com
2007-08-31 09:28:12
17.   Greg Brock
16 Neat story. And there are so many one-liners to be had from those pictures, I'm not even going to try.
2007-08-31 09:31:56
18.   LogikReader
17

I'll try one:

Where Brad Penny will be in October

2007-08-31 09:33:06
19.   LogikReader
That was very cool, though, having that fishing trip. Great for the kids.
2007-08-31 09:42:09
20.   DodgerBlueBruce
That does not look like Brad Penny on the website photo of the fishing trip.
2007-08-31 09:46:49
21.   Sushirabbit
Yeah, Maddux fits the bill. I was thinking Penny and before. I just never liked Brown, but he was quite clearly a good deal. Lowe, too. Just using a faulty selective memory.

My move starts today. 4 days without Extra Innings when we play SD will be hard. Here's hoping I get to listen to a game via MLB.com

2007-08-31 09:52:25
22.   old dodger fan
12 It's Well's former team too but he has so many of them and I don't think there is any animosity on his part towards them. Too bad.
2007-08-31 09:55:15
23.   LAT
I hope Penny had one of the deckhands bait his hook for him. While usually I disapprove of such angling assistance, a man should bait his own hook, I'll make an exception in his case. The last thing we need is for our ace to put a hook through his thumb.

Come to think of it letting Brad fish at all isn't really a bright idea. Consider, fishing is the most dangerous occupation in the world. The chances of getting cut, barbed or scrapped up are pretty good not to mention the chance of slipping on the wet deck and wiping out. Having done all of these stupid things many times I speak from experience.

2007-08-31 09:58:37
24.   Bob Timmermann
23
Norman Maclean and I just fly fish. Much can be learned between the hours of 10 and 2.
2007-08-31 09:59:56
25.   Greg Brock
Remind me not to go fishing with LAT. The man is clearly a menace.
2007-08-31 10:01:17
26.   DodgerBakers
{15.} Well, according to Sports Club Stats http://tinyurl.com/39fm4p and SFW, the Dodgers need to go 19-10 the rest of the season to have a 94.6% or better chance at the playoffs.

Also, for making the playoffs, we are Dodger, Rockies, and Marlins fans today.

2007-08-31 10:02:15
27.   LAT
Has anyone heard whether there's been any interest in Tomko?

(I hope Ned remembers that HE was the guy that released Tomko otherwise he will be tempted to pick him up again. Hernandez, Wells, Loiza, Tomko. Anyone see a pattern here?)

2007-08-31 10:04:30
28.   GoBears
Nice article, Jon. It's never a bad thing for fans of a team to get a little perspective. Times are tough all over.
2007-08-31 10:05:49
29.   GoBears
I hope Ned remembers that HE was the guy that released Tomko otherwise he will be tempted to pick him up again.

Awesome! Yeah, because Tomko is still a former Giant, right?

2007-08-31 10:10:40
30.   LAT
25. I have a group of guys that go fishing regularly and we all have nicknames. Mine is "Larry Dangerous". I am the Kurt Rambis of fishing. I have cleared a few decks while landing my fish. I don't lose too many but my technique leaves a lot to be desired.
2007-08-31 10:11:48
31.   D4P
because Tomko is still a former Giant, right?

With great stuff and a history of winning. Plus, aren't we already paying him anyway...? Might as well get something out of it...

2007-08-31 10:15:24
32.   Greg Brock
30 Good Lord...Are you fishing for Killer Whales or something?
2007-08-31 10:16:11
33.   old dodger fan
27 The pattern also includes Maddux, Saito, Schmidt and Wolf. On the other hand it also includes Hendrickson, Dessens, Baez and Carter. Wow, there have been a lot of pitchers added. There was Seo, Hamulack, Proctor. Who have I forgotten?
2007-08-31 10:19:28
34.   bhsportsguy
30 Way back in the day, my friends and I would rent out skiffs out of Kings Harbor and fish for bonito, mackeral, the occasional sand bass and rare barracuda, to make it more fun, we would use freshwater tackle, nothing like battling a bonito on 4lb test line.

The only thing we had to battle was the seals that hung out by the bait barge, many a time we would see the silvery image of our fish followed by a larger black image, sometimes we would get the fish onboard but most of the time, it would lost to the seal.

2007-08-31 10:19:32
35.   Jon Weisman
Pretty cool - Twins relief pitcher Pat Neshek praises blogger Aaron Gleeman:

http://www.aarongleeman.com/2007_08_26_baseballblog_archive.html

2007-08-31 10:20:20
36.   Jon Weisman
I did one of those city-kids-go-fishing storys for the Daily News way back when. I had to get up at 4 a.m. to do it, but it was rewarding.
2007-08-31 10:21:15
37.   silverwidow
It's going to be either a Roberto DFA or Stults option today. I'm hoping for the former, since it will also clear another 40-man spot.
2007-08-31 10:22:38
38.   Eric Enders
It's the most dangerous job in the world. And LAT does it for fun.
2007-08-31 10:22:58
39.   Eric Enders
He also kilt him a bar when he was only three.
2007-08-31 10:23:53
40.   Jon Weisman
36 - storys should be stories
2007-08-31 10:36:20
41.   ToyCannon
35
That may be the coolest quote I've ever seen from a ballplayer related to the media. Aaron's head must have puffed out a little after that.

37
No way Ned DFA's Roberto after hanging on to him all month.

I hope Lindsey gets the call tomorrow. I'm a sucker for career minor leaguers getting a break. Don't want to see them in my lineup but I like to see them at least get a taste of why they worked so hard. As a bonus, Plaschke will get a story.

2007-08-31 10:39:41
42.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
1 , 9 ... Nah... The union would never allow contraction, and overall MLB revenue would probably not expand.

Instead, just raise the mound. Great pitchers will look fantastic, and mediocre pitchers will get you through more games...

Of course, offense would be down, and hence, so would revenues, and so... it won't happen until the fan-base starts demanding more 2-1 games.

2007-08-31 10:40:29
43.   Greg Brock
35 That is wonderful. And, I think, a sign of things to come.
2007-08-31 10:40:29
44.   LogikReader
I'll start a petition...
2007-08-31 10:40:43
45.   LAT
32. Mostly tuna out of San Diego or Mexico. They get up to 100 lbs sometimes. (My largest is 90lbs and it took me nearly 3 hours to land. I could not straighten my fingers for at least a day.) Somtimes we go Salmon fishing in British Columbia. While it is the most beautiful place on Earth, salmon fishing is not as exciting and a lot more expensive.

38. The most deadliest for commercial fisherman. As in the Deadliest Catch. I love that show.

2007-08-31 10:43:56
46.   Greg Brock
45 I got a blister playing Rapala Tournament fishing on the Wii, so I totally know where you are coming from.
2007-08-31 10:45:28
47.   Bob Timmermann
42
A return to 1968-style baseball would be a disaster economically.

Maybe not aesthetically, but people won't be all that interested in 2-1 games. Casual fan friends of mine hate going to games like that.

Even though they're faster to play!

Casual baseball fans are as fickle as the "Itchy and Scratchy" focus group.

2007-08-31 10:45:34
48.   D4P
46
Money for nothin' and your chicks for free.
2007-08-31 10:47:29
49.   kngoworld
Jon - scrolling further down the Aaron Gleeman page, he discusses Alyssa Milano's clothing line and links to a picture of himself wearing a shirt at I dont know where. If you look carefully in the background there is a woman wearing a Dodger Thoughts shirt.

http://www.aarongleeman.com/uploaded_images/sabrraindelay5-760124.JPG

2007-08-31 10:50:59
50.   Bob Timmermann
49
That Mr and Mrs. shotupthemiddle!

Although I don't know if they've officially tied the knot.

That picture was taken in St. Louis.

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2007-08-31 10:53:31
51.   LogikReader
Bob, obviously he's exaggerating, re 42 . Raising the mound is not going to bring the whole game back to 1968. It'll just reduce the odds of a 30-3 game and so on.
2007-08-31 10:54:28
52.   Eric Enders
49 I own one of those gray shirts in the foreground. It gets some weird looks.
2007-08-31 10:55:21
53.   Eric Enders
Also, the guy on the left in that picture spilled beer all over his pants. (I hope.)
2007-08-31 10:55:28
54.   kngoworld
50

Is there anything about anything you dont know?

2007-08-31 10:56:43
55.   kngoworld
53

Looks like a messy group of people in general. I see multiple people with stains.

2007-08-31 10:57:05
56.   Bob Timmermann
54
They rode down in the elevator with me at the hotel to the game!
2007-08-31 10:57:06
57.   Eric Enders
54 Silly. Bob has already admitted not knowing whether they've officially tied the knot. Everything else, he knows.
2007-08-31 10:57:22
58.   D4P
53
I'm pretty sure all the moisture on the clothing is sweat. I learned about that after moving to NC.
2007-08-31 10:57:32
59.   Bob Timmermann
53
The game was delayed by two hellacious thundestorms. Everybody had interesting looking stains.
2007-08-31 10:57:50
60.   D4P
I see multiple people with stains

Again: sweat.

2007-08-31 10:58:48
61.   Bob Timmermann
And I really don't know everything. I just pieced together much of my knowledge from the back of sugar packets.
2007-08-31 11:00:24
62.   Greg Brock
Amazingly, though he is a brilliant man, librarian, and keeper of knowledge, Bob does not know the Dewey Decimal System.
2007-08-31 11:01:26
63.   Bob Timmermann
60
Sweat and rain.

If you had seen a picture of me at that game, I would have resembled a cat after being caught out in the rain.

2007-08-31 11:02:40
64.   Bob Timmermann
62
Hey I run a high quality 796.231-themed blog.
2007-08-31 11:02:54
65.   Greg Brock
63 Just don't leave the cake out in the rain.

But someone did.

2007-08-31 11:03:11
66.   Eric Enders
As a kid, I only knew one number in the Dewey Decimal system, 796.357.
2007-08-31 11:03:21
67.   Bob Timmermann
65
I kept the recipe.
2007-08-31 11:03:58
68.   Eric Enders
Oh great, Bob beat me to the 796 crack. And now I fear I have gotten the number wrong.
2007-08-31 11:04:01
69.   LAT
49. Nice pick up! I looked at the picture and didn't even see that.
2007-08-31 11:04:36
70.   katysdad
Steve Trachsel is off the table, traded to the Cubs for right-handed pitcher (and delightfuly named) Rocky Cherry and infielder Scott Moore.
2007-08-31 11:05:16
71.   Bob Timmermann
68
My library uses a real old edition of Dewey.

Your DDC may vary.

2007-08-31 11:07:22
72.   D4P
Starting last year, the Duke University Library System began the transition from Dewey Decimal to Library of Congress.
2007-08-31 11:08:21
73.   Bob Timmermann
72
I'm surprised it took that long.
2007-08-31 11:10:26
74.   Dodgers49
Last night someone mentioned the fact that Chris Young waited until his start just prior to the All Star break to drop his appeal thereby minimizing its affect on the San Diego pitching staff. But I find the David Wells situation more intriguing. Appeals are normally handled in New York where MLB's headquarters is located. But Wells joined the Dodgers on a weekend when the offices were closed and then immediately flew back to California. The Dodgers don't return to New York again during the regular season. Under normal circumstances this situation could carry over to the beginning of next season. So the question before the house is simply this:

What if David Wells refuses to drop his appeal for the rest of the season and then, during the coming off season, announces his retirement?

Wouldn't that trump Chris Young? :-)

2007-08-31 11:10:33
75.   D4P
73
Yeah, that was my implicit point. Hard to believe they're just now getting around to it.
2007-08-31 11:12:27
76.   Eric Enders
74 I think I tried to raise that point in the last thread. The jury was unimpressed.
2007-08-31 11:14:22
77.   Bob Timmermann
796.357 is the current DDC for baseball.

But LAPL uses a version from the 1940s. It gives us "character."

We get funky call numbers like:
338.2P4 A658Vi

940.5412 Rf1303Pa

2007-08-31 11:16:30
78.   KG16
74 - the problem, I think, is that Wells does not strike me as the type that plans on retiring. He is going to be one of those guys that will be playing in the independent leagues at 55 saying that he can still help a team.

Still, holding the line on the appeal is likely the best thing for the club, at least until the rosters expand. 5 games, he really only misses one start (which is something I've never understood about suspending starting pitchers).

2007-08-31 11:26:31
79.   Bob Timmermann
51
The odds of a 30-3 game happening again has gone down since the Orioles gave Paul Shuey his walking papers.
2007-08-31 11:27:55
80.   Eric Enders
78 He is quoted in either the Times or the Press-Enterprise this morning (can't remember which; I read both) as saying "they'll have to tear the uniform off my back."

But one of the things that makes David Wells David Wells is that he says whatever's on his mind in the moment, without considering its implications. Tomorrow he could say exactly the opposite.

2007-08-31 11:29:55
81.   King of the Hobos
70 That certainly makes me appreciate the Loaiza deal a little more. Scott Moore and Rocky Cherry are something along the lines of Delwyn Young and Eric Hull, who I would never deal for a month of a mediocre pitcher. Especially if he was named Steve Trachsel.
2007-08-31 11:35:43
82.   ToyCannon
Now I must really root for the Brewers. To see Trachsel in the playoffs would be enough to numb even the sturdiest baseball heart.

The good news is that he's so lousy now that he's not a good bet to last 6 innings so we wouldn't have to endure a 4 hour game consisting of him standing on the mound afraid to throw his stinkin pitches.

2007-08-31 11:41:07
83.   kinbote
70 - rocky cherry is BY FAR my favorite flavor of ice cream, even if it does tend to chip one's teeth.
2007-08-31 11:47:20
84.   underdog
82 Along those lines, isn't the good news also that the Dodgers will likely face him next week?
2007-08-31 11:47:49
85.   Eric Enders
It's called Rocky Cherry because they leave the pits in. So at least Bob now has someone to to take Russ Ortiz's place when Ortiz retires.
2007-08-31 11:48:26
86.   Eric Enders
84 It's also bad news in that I'll actually have to watch it.
2007-08-31 11:50:54
87.   screwballin
81 And that deal is particularly surprising coming from the team needing the least help, as Jon's article pointed out.
2007-08-31 11:53:21
88.   screwballin
And Trachsel does indeed suck, but I can't rake too hard on a fellow Dirtbag. A little slack for that, maybe?
2007-08-31 11:54:33
89.   Bob Timmermann
I like cherries.
2007-08-31 12:00:20
90.   old dodger fan
If I may interrupt the trashing of Trachsel for a moment. He has a career ERA+ of 101 and an ERA+ of 99 this year. Doesn't that make him the deffinition of average?
2007-08-31 12:02:14
91.   Disabled List
I was browsing this book today at lunch: It's a must-read, or at least must-browse, for all the Little Lebowski Urban Acheivers on DT:

http://tinyurl.com/2f54c8

2007-08-31 12:04:33
92.   Eric Enders
90 I have nothing derogatory to say about the quality of his pitching. It's just that his presence pretty much guarantees a ballgame can't be enjoyed. Watching him pitch is like sticking a fork in your eye.
2007-08-31 12:07:36
93.   King of the Hobos
90 Yes. However, Chicago's current, pre-Trachsel's rotation has ERA+s of 116 (Lilly), 111 (Zambrano), 112 (Marshall), 106 (Marquis), and 123 (Hill). So while he's average, he's the worst starter of the 6 pitchers, rather easily. Plus he has a 69/45 BB/K ratio, which is incredibly awful.
2007-08-31 12:07:45
94.   Dodgers49
Hiker gored by Catalina bison

>> The man says he made eye contact with one in the herd near Little Harbor. Then it started charging him. <<

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/9491257.html

Anyone on Dodgers Thoughts could have warned him. You just don't make eye contact with a charging Bison. :-)

2007-08-31 12:13:50
95.   D4P
You just don't make eye contact with a charging Bison

Especially a Mattalina Bison...

2007-08-31 12:15:39
96.   Xeifrank
Dodgers have the #1 and #6 (Saito, Broxton) ranked NL relief pitchers in WPA (Win Probability Added) thus far. Saito is head and shoulders above the rest of the field.
vr, Xei
2007-08-31 12:23:56
97.   Eric Enders
Those two one-run saves recently probably helped Saito a lot in that regard.
2007-08-31 12:30:42
98.   ToyCannon
Almost old friend Bill Murphy might make it up to the Diamondbacks this Sept.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/0830dbnotes0831.html
2007-08-31 12:32:40
99.   be2ween
85 Well if they took the pits out, it wouldn't be 'Rocky' now would it?
With apologies to Monty Python.
2007-08-31 12:35:38
100.   Bumsrap
24. Norman Maclean and I just fly fish

Is that like flying a kite on the beach at Lincoln City, Oregon?

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2007-08-31 12:39:28
101.   Daniel Zappala
Bison are indeed dangerous. I've gotten a little too close to one on Antelope Island (a long way from the Antelope Valley) and lived, but I much prefer seeing them from the safety of my car in Yellowstone.
2007-08-31 12:39:31
102.   Bumsrap
You just don't make eye contact with a charging Bison

But you can if you want to

Oh you can't go skating in a buffalo herd, you can't go skating in a buffalo herd,

but you can if you want to

2007-08-31 12:40:13
103.   Daniel Zappala
Bob likes cherries. Cherries have pits. Bob's previous assertion about not liking fruits with pits has been invalidated twice. I think it's safe to say he exaggerated. I never would have expected that of Bob.
2007-08-31 12:45:22
104.   LAT
Of course you can make eye contact with a charging Bison. I saw Kevin Costner do it in the only good non baseball movie he ever made.
2007-08-31 12:48:40
105.   Bumsrap
Ya can't roller skate in a buffalo herd
Ya can't roller skate in a buffalo herd
Ya can't roller skate in a buffalo herd
But you can be happy if you've a mind to

Ya can't take a shower in a parakeet cage
Ya can't take a shower in a parakeet cage
Ya can't take a shower in a parakeet cage
But you can be a Loaiza fan if you've a mind to

All ya gotta do is put your mind to it
Knuckle down, buckle down, do it, do it, do it

Well, ya can't go a-swimmin' in a baseball pool
Ya can't go swimmin' in a baseball pool
Ya can't go swimmin' in a baseball pool
But you can be a Dodger fan if you've a mind to

Ya can't change film with a kid on your back
Ya can't change film with a kid on your back
Ya can't change film with a kid on your back
But you can be Pierre fan if you've a mind to

Ya can't drive around with a tiger in your car
Ya can't drive around with a tiger in your car
Ya can't drive around with a tiger in your car
But you can be happy if you've a mind to

All ya gotta do is put your mind to it
Knuckle down, buckle down do it, do it, do it

Well, ya can't roller skate in a buffalo herd
Ya can't roller skate in a buffalo herd
Ya can't roller skate in a buffalo herd
But you can be happy if you've a mind to

Ya can't go fishin' in a watermelon patch
Ya can't go fishin' in a watermelon patch
Ya can't go fishin' in a watermelon patch
But you can be happy if you've a mind to

Roger Miller (mostly)

2007-08-31 12:49:27
106.   Marty
103 Daniel beat me to it. Bob is a fruit hypocrite!
2007-08-31 12:51:45
107.   Marty
Too bad I missed fishing thoughts. My last deep-sea trip was quite a few years ago. An overnight trip to San Clemente island that resulted in about 5 fish on the boat. My only hookup was a huge bat-ray that took me 45 minutes to horse up to the boat. As soon as the crew saw what it was they cut my line. It was very long boat ride back with nothing to show for it.