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Fernandomania Will Never Die
2007-08-31 16:30
by Jon Weisman

Everyone in New York is excited about the scoreless start to Joba Chamberlain's Yankee career. And the kudos are deserved.

Still, to put it in perspective, let's recall the beginning of Fernando Valenzuela's career.

Valenzuela allowed two unearned runs in his first game, ruling out any chance for him to go off on a career-starting scoreless streak. Nevertheless, he went 34 2/3 innings before he allowed his first career earned run.

Here's how he did in his first 80 2/3 career innings: 77 strikeouts, two earned runs, 0.22 ERA.

Remarkable. Has any pitcher ever had a lower career ERA at any point that was 0.01 or greater?

Valenzuela allowed two earned runs in his next game, then four on May 18, 1981, when he finally took his first career loss.

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2007-08-31 16:46:00
1.   ImprobableImpossible
Just wait for Esteban-mania!
2007-08-31 16:57:31
2.   Bluebleeder87
Here's how he did in his first 80 2/3 career innings: 77 strikeouts, two earned runs, 0.22 ERA.

Not to shaby, I was still fairly young to remember the whole "FernandoMania" thing.

2007-08-31 17:03:13
3.   Eric Enders
Fellow Extra Innings viewers... we get Vinny for all three games in this series, a true rarity where games against the Padres are concerned.
2007-08-31 17:09:39
4.   Eric Enders
An interesting project might be looking at the greatest Dodger pitching streaks of all time. I ran the numbers on Hershiser the other day and it came out to a 0.45 ERA over 101 innings. Drysdale was 0.64 over 85 innings in 1968. I'm sure Koufax had a similar stretch or three.
2007-08-31 17:17:26
5.   Bluebleeder87
3

I totally forgot Eric Enders (or is it Eric Stephen?) lives in enemy territory, I'm wondering if this will be a high scoring game considering we're in a pitcher friendly park.

David Wells 5.46 ERA (He'll be pitching with extra adrenaline tonight I'm sure)

Cassel 6.00 ERA (From what I understand it's his 1st start of the year so he'll be pretty pumped up also)

2007-08-31 17:22:41
6.   Marty
Ahh Fernandomania. I remember sitting in a bar at a Mexican restaurant watching Fernando win his 7th against the Mets. 1-0 if I recall. That was a fun time.
2007-08-31 17:23:26
7.   Marty
Enders lives in enemy territory if you are a Trojan fan.
2007-08-31 17:32:48
8.   LogikReader
Wow! It to 20 years for Fernando to get his first career loss?? No wonder he was so popular.
2007-08-31 17:33:27
9.   LogikReader
to = took
2007-08-31 17:36:09
10.   LogikReader
just teasing. I did some research on Juan Pierre last year, even though I didn't have to: he was on my fantasy team.

I also did some research on Gary Matthews Jr for 2006.

Anyway I hate to beat a dead horse, but I have to classify this as NedCo's worst signing of his career.

2007-08-31 17:37:34
11.   LogikReader
but you know, folks, I'll remind everyone that JP had almost similar numbers in 2003 and the Marlins won the WS that year.
2007-08-31 17:38:03
12.   Bluebleeder87
Takashi Saito makes Dayn Perrys "All Underrated Team" for 2007 [ http://tinyurl.com/ypg47p ]
2007-08-31 17:38:49
13.   Eric Enders
8 , 9 Rule number one when making fun of a typo is not to make a typo yourslef.
2007-08-31 17:39:50
14.   LogikReader
That's a pretty good list... not so sure about Oswalt, since he's supposedly the ace of the 'stros.
2007-08-31 17:40:49
15.   LogikReader
Eric, yep, I blew it. How embarrassing
2007-08-31 17:47:45
16.   King of the Hobos
11 The difference is that he got on base at a rate of .035 more, which over 700 ABs, equates to about 25 extra times on base. I'm guessing that those 25 times on base (and equally important, those 25 non-outs) would mean enough runs to win 1-2 more games, at least. That extra .035 adds about 9-10 VORP over 700 PAs (rough approximation using my estimated VORP formula, and assuming no increase in power)
2007-08-31 17:53:05
18.   Woody
LogikReader-6 posts out of the first 17. You're hogging as my little sister used to say.
2007-08-31 17:55:03
19.   Robert Daeley
10 It's not so much a dead horse anymore as a residue of glue on the ground.
2007-08-31 17:56:49
20.   Jon Weisman
17 - Last warning: Stop typing in all capital letters please.
2007-08-31 17:58:53
22.   Eric Enders
No, the Dodgers are built around spelling. And lower case letters.
2007-08-31 17:59:20
23.   King of the Hobos
I'm not sure if it's indicative of who will be here tomorrow or not, but most of the young guys from Vegas are playing tonight. The only notables missing from the lineup are Hu and Moeller (Abreu, Young, Lindsey, and Laroche are all playing).
2007-08-31 18:00:10
24.   Eric Enders
Hopefully it's the last minor league game in the career of Mr. LaRoche.
2007-08-31 18:02:25
26.   Bluebleeder87
21

We like your enthusiasm KgiBson but you GOTTA STOP YELLING! it's disrespectful to Jon & others like my self.

2007-08-31 18:06:40
29.   King of the Hobos
A pitcher who may or may not exist did not bring his A game for the Jacksonville game:
3.1 IP, 6 H, 6 R (3 ER), 3 BB, 4 K, 2 HR.
Because the Suns offense hasn't exactly done anything, they're down 6-0. Losing means they miss the playoffs.
2007-08-31 18:07:09
30.   Johnny Nucleo
I'll always be nostalgic for Fernandomania, as it hit just as I was becoming aware of baseball. Like one of Lorenz' ducklings, I was imprinted that summer as a Dodger fan, albeit from 2000 miles away.
I think I still have the Fernandomania book somwhere (available in drugstores at the time), half English, half Spanish. Lots of great pictures of Fernando and Tommy.
2007-08-31 18:13:21
32.   KG16
Fernandomania was a just a bit before my time (born in '78), my first solid baseball memories were '88 - particularly Gibson's catch in the NLCS and then, I think he did something later, but I can't ever remember what that was...
2007-08-31 18:13:45
33.   Bob Timmermann
This is not going to end well for one person.
2007-08-31 18:14:08
34.   Bluebleeder87
30

I due remember it was kind of a big fuss & back then they didn't have interpreters so I think Jaime Jarrin did all the interpreting along with Tommy.

2007-08-31 18:15:23
36.   King of the Hobos
After his first AB today, Abreu has 40 ABs in August, and 10 doubles.
2007-08-31 18:16:33
38.   Eric Enders
Final 2007 stats for the pitcher who does not exist:

8-7 W-L (probably)
2.95 ERA
122 IP
89 H
52 R
40 ER
163 K
67 BB
9 HR
1.28 WHIP
12.02 K/9

All he needs to do is improve the control. And hurry up and turn 35 so he can be trusted.

2007-08-31 18:18:19
39.   KG16
38 - "And hurry up and turn 35 so he can be trusted" - heh.
2007-08-31 18:21:51
41.   KG16
40 - is that comment directed at me? And is that a declaration or a question?

As far as what I'm talking about, well, it was a joke, I think everyone knows what I'm talking about, it involved a back door slider on a 3-2 count.

2007-08-31 18:22:02
42.   NoHoDodger
33 Its like watching the train wreck about to happen
2007-08-31 18:22:15
43.   Zak
38 That's pretty yummy.. he should crack the Top 10, maybe Top 5 on the BA Top 100 in spring.

However, based on those numbers alone, I don't think we will see him at Chavez Ravine until September 2008. But 2009 should be good if all goes well.

2007-08-31 18:22:25
44.   Lexinthedena
Furcal, SS
Pierre, CF
Kemp, RF
Kent, 2B
Ethier, LF
Martin, C
Loney, 1B
Hillenbrand, 3B
Wells, P

Not bad....

Wells has always been a big game pitcher, but Stults got a raw deal.......

2007-08-31 18:23:32
45.   Zak
41 Wait, was then when he wasn't running the bases at 100% speed and was showing up the pitcher with happy gestures?
2007-08-31 18:23:46
46.   LogikReader
Bob, we have Nick Markakis a triple away from...
2007-08-31 18:24:58
47.   PDH5204
33 Who? I wouldn't otherwise worry about any "yelling" and the man otherwise has it right since [as I am so fond of saying] pitching and defense does win games.

1 I already have Esteban mania. Added the man to some fantasy rosters and put him on the DL when Roto first reported he was near returning, then activated the man as a seventh starter, and then pitched him in his first two starts. He did well. No guarantee, but I look for him to build upon his recent success. In short sum, Este rocks!

2007-08-31 18:25:18
48.   King of the Hobos
The Padres recalled 2 former Dodgers, Oscar Robles and Ryan Ketchner (although in Ketchner's case, he was only a Vero Beach Dodger) However, they were immediately placed on the DL, all part of the playoff roster shenanigans.
2007-08-31 18:25:53
49.   Zak
42 Or for poker fans, it's like watching Phil Hellmuth race a stock car in the parking lot, just not racing against other cars.
2007-08-31 18:28:07
50.   Bluebleeder87
46

From my time here on DT every time Bob comes back from vacation it takes him some time to get back into the flow of things I'm sure he'll be sharp as a whistle in a few more days.

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2007-08-31 18:28:25
51.   Zak
I am fond of saying that scoring more runs than the other team also wins games.
2007-08-31 18:29:47
52.   Bob Timmermann
46
Yellow alert for Markakis.
2007-08-31 18:30:48
53.   Eric Enders
If Granderson had a single, double, and homer, would that be an orange alert?
2007-08-31 18:30:56
54.   KG16
51 - in my high school weight room, someone wrote on the white board a very simple statement that was pretty much the basis of our water polo program: The key to winning is to score.
2007-08-31 18:33:47
55.   Bob Timmermann
53
Not according to the guys in Thief River Falls.
2007-08-31 18:34:46
56.   Eric Stephen
3 I live in San Diego, Bluebleeder. Alas, I will not be going to this evening's game. Tomorrow is a high probability though. I predict tonight will be 2-1, then tomorrow will be 9-7, just to defy the odds.
2007-08-31 18:35:07
57.   PDH5204
51 So am I, but the idea is that if your staff ERA is 0.00 and your defense is such that no unearned run scores, well, our team either plays forever in a 0-0 tie or we prevail. But again, back to what I also agree with, it otherwise doesn't hurt to have one Carl Reginald Smith on the team.
2007-08-31 18:35:19
58.   LogikReader
Very fun fact I picked up on from the Indians Broadcast today:

Loiaza was involved in a very historic game (well until last week)

http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2004/B08310NYA2004.htm

Wait until you read his pitching line :)

2007-08-31 18:35:58
59.   Eric Stephen
Royal effort tonight be the partner of the butcher and the candlestick maker.
2007-08-31 18:36:56
60.   LogikReader
Me again with the typos: It's "Loaiza"
2007-08-31 18:37:05
61.   Eric Enders
Thief River Falls is only 139 miles away from Ball Club, Minnesota. I have been to the latter but not the former.
2007-08-31 18:40:14
62.   Bob Timmermann
Extremely interesting game in Minneapolis.
2007-08-31 18:42:20
63.   Bluebleeder87
Livan Hernandez is pitching on short rest (3) & looking at the ERA on short rest 5.23 it doesn't sound like a good idea from the D-Backs manager.
2007-08-31 18:42:29
64.   underdog
56 That really will defy the odds.

48 I'm always slightly confused about that - are the Padres putting those guys on active roster but injured reserve so they can use them if needed in the playoffs? How does that work again? Shenanigans indeed.

2007-08-31 18:42:56
65.   KG16
62 - double header indoors? This a make up from the bridge collapse?
2007-08-31 18:43:24
66.   Eric Enders
The man won't give an orange alert to Granderson, but he'll issue an interesting warning after five innings!
2007-08-31 18:43:57
67.   Zak
59 Very clever.. I didn't get it until I read 62 .
2007-08-31 18:44:04
68.   Bob Timmermann
60
Only fitting that Loaiza is taking Stults' place in the rotation. The #5 spot in the rotation is the designated spelling trap.

I'm putting the spelling of Kuo in that category too.

2007-08-31 18:44:23
69.   KG16
66 - it's not just an interesting warning, it's a "very interesting" warning, there's a difference.
2007-08-31 18:45:07
70.   Eric Stephen
66 Six! I issued the alert after 5 in 59 . (with a typo / grammatical error)
2007-08-31 18:46:47
71.   LogikReader
Got the Twins game on PiP. woooeee!

I won't jinx it.

2007-08-31 18:47:28
72.   Bob Timmermann
Greg Brock believes that no game is interesting until it gets past the sixth.
2007-08-31 18:50:02
73.   dzzrtRatt
72 Funny. I believe that no NBA game is interesting until the fourth quarter.

But maybe you mean something else.

2007-08-31 18:50:08
74.   KG16
72 - that's a fair point. I'd call the game in Minnesota interesting in the 5th, it becomes "very" interesting in the 6th. But, that's just me. I just hope the guy's pitch count doesn't get too high (*ducks)
2007-08-31 18:51:26
75.   Eric Stephen
74 The "very" refers to quality, not quantity.
2007-08-31 18:51:42
76.   Bluebleeder87
your the best Bob, thanks for the heads up.
2007-08-31 18:52:57
77.   Bob Timmermann
76
I don't believe the KC-Minnesota game is on EI if you have cable.

But it's an exciting battle between the #3 and #4 teams in the AL Central!

2007-08-31 18:53:09
78.   KG16
75 - I think you miss my distinction, it has to do with "Ball 4"
2007-08-31 18:54:06
79.   Zak
This is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Enjoy.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AjuGDUOGabpBRMJUMOQKHZsRvLYF?slug=jp-bresnahanpotato083107&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

2007-08-31 18:55:12
80.   Bluebleeder87
77

I switched to Satellite a while back. I'm watching the game at the moment.

2007-08-31 18:58:31
81.   Eric Stephen
77 Bob, I'm watching the KC/Min game on EI on cable.
2007-08-31 18:59:57
82.   Benjamin Miracord
72 I'm probably wrong, but I think a game can be interesting in the third inning, especially if one player hits two grand slams against the same pitcher.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1999/B04230LAN1999.htm

Besides, I don't think the code is actually "interesting." I think I remember it as, "The fat man walks alone."

2007-08-31 19:00:44
83.   Icaros
81

Me too. Comcast carries the magical channels 11-13. I only had access to channels 1-10 until hockey season ended.

2007-08-31 19:01:56
84.   Bob Timmermann
81
You must have a super-secret channel. Because it ain't on mine.
2007-08-31 19:02:37
85.   Sam DC
ESPN has bonus coverage.
2007-08-31 19:02:48
86.   LogikReader
I'm watching the game too: I have Cox Cable
2007-08-31 19:03:01
87.   LogikReader
and EI
2007-08-31 19:05:12
88.   Bluebleeder87
wow, & the KC batters are totally telling the tale.
2007-08-31 19:05:45
89.   underdog
This announcer doesn't know about "interesting" game rules. (Watching on MLBTV, gonna switch to Dodgers game for a half inning)
2007-08-31 19:06:07
90.   Bluebleeder87
I'm gonna ask a pretty dumb question but what does EI mean [runs in shame]
2007-08-31 19:06:22
91.   Eric Stephen
83 .{84] I have Time Warner in SD, and actually get 14 different MLB channels! the game in question tonight is on MLB 11.

But I don't have Dodgers on Demand.

2007-08-31 19:06:23
92.   Lexinthedena
Dang Raffy......didn't even give me a chance to settle in...
2007-08-31 19:06:27
93.   LogikReader
Nice start to the Dodger game. I almost forgot we had one! Furcal drag bunt to get on.
2007-08-31 19:07:01
94.   LogikReader
EI is "Extra Innings"
2007-08-31 19:07:11
95.   Eric Stephen
90 Bluebleeder, EI = "Extra Innings"
2007-08-31 19:07:14
96.   Marty
Someone please make the bunting stop.
2007-08-31 19:07:16
97.   Lexinthedena
Is the SD logo on the mound cool, or tacky?...can't decide...
2007-08-31 19:07:28
98.   Icaros
84

I thought you had decided to forgo your EI subscription due to all of the early-season scummery.

2007-08-31 19:07:54
99.   Eric Stephen
94 I'd like to think my personal touch was worth the 10 second wait! :)
2007-08-31 19:08:38
100.   Bob Timmermann
91
I'll trade you Dodgers on Demand for just about anything.

Do you have some old socks you want to get rid of?

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2007-08-31 19:08:46
101.   Bluebleeder87
as soon as I switch to the Dodger game Pierre hits a little dud to the pitcher, ugh!.
2007-08-31 19:09:14
102.   underdog
If Pierre didn't exist at all in that at bat, Furcal would be at 2nd base with a stolen base. Instead they try hit and run, he flails, he hits into the force out, and reminds me why he still gets on my nerves.
2007-08-31 19:09:50
103.   Icaros
91

Actually, I have 14 as well. Miscount on my part.

2007-08-31 19:10:21
104.   King of the Hobos
Laroche hit a homer today, so it's about time to bench Shea.
2007-08-31 19:10:43
105.   underdog
The wrong part of the wrong stadium, Bison. Darn. He crushed that one.
2007-08-31 19:11:34
106.   Icaros
Another rookie blunder for the inexperienced Jeff Kent.
2007-08-31 19:11:51
107.   Eric Stephen
What is it with players whose last names are 4 letters and start with "Ke" that leads to all these baserunning errors?
2007-08-31 19:12:21
108.   underdog
Kent however hit it to the right part of the park. And then slid to the wrong part of the bag. Oh well.
2007-08-31 19:12:53
109.   Gen3Blue
Well I guess I'm glad to see Kent make a stupidly enthusiastic play.
2007-08-31 19:13:27
110.   Eric Stephen
Icaros and I made a deal with our cable companies: we travel a great deal to DT day (Icaros much farther than me of course), and we get the extra EI channels.
2007-08-31 19:13:36
111.   D4P
The Dodgers have a good record when scoring first. I don't remember what it is, but it's good.
2007-08-31 19:15:38
112.   Zak
111 I honestly am not being snarky, but, just by law of averages, don't most, if not all, teams have a good record when scoring first? I could be wrong, but am just wondering.
2007-08-31 19:15:48
113.   Wilbert Robinson
Hey give Kent a break he did skip AAA after all. He's still learning.
2007-08-31 19:15:49
114.   Lexinthedena
111- Not tyring to be obnoxious, but is there a team that has a bad record when scoring first?

Flash Flood Warning!....get the canoes!

2007-08-31 19:16:51
115.   Bluebleeder87
how long did the Twins bat in that last inning, it seemed like forever.
2007-08-31 19:17:04
116.   Gen3Blue
I can bear it when a veteran pitcher doesn't have it and gives up a hit, but a walk is harder to take.
2007-08-31 19:17:43
117.   Lexinthedena
Mike Cameron fits the description of many Iceberg Slim characters....in appearance of course....
2007-08-31 19:18:15
118.   Eric Stephen
no longer "very"
2007-08-31 19:18:43
119.   GoBears
Please forgive the length, but per Vishal's request at the end of the previous thread, here's the next paragraph of Saito's blog entry, where he describes the 9th inning of his save against the Nats:

今日は、ホームでのナショナルズ戦、4-5と1点リードの9回表に登板しました。
先頭打者は三振で1アウト。

Today, at home in a game agaist the Nationals, I came in in the 9th inning, with a 5-4 lead. I struck out the first batter.

この最初の三振は、ほぼ完璧に自分の意図するピッチングができたと思います。
3ストライク目を取った球は、アウトコースのいい所にバシッという感じで決まって、
狙った通りで気持ち良かったです。

With these first three strikes, I think I pitched just about as perfectly as I can. On the 3rd strike, I decided where I wanted it to go, and it felt good to have it go exactly where I aimed it.

次打者・ベリヤードには、フルカウントからヒットを打たれてしまいました。
この対戦は、相手がスライダーを狙っていると分かっていたので真っ直ぐで押した
のですが、カウント2-3から長打もフォアボールも嫌だったので、待っているのが
分かっていて、敢えてスライダー勝負。うまく当てられたという感じです。

The next batter, Belliard, was able to work his way to a full count. In this battle, I knew that my opponent would be looking for the slider, so I should go fastball, but because, with a 3-2 count, both a walk and a big hit would be terrible, even though he was waiting for it, I daringly (boldly) went with the slider, win or lose. I feel like I located it well.

気持ちを切り替えて、3人目のシュナイダー。
1球目、シュート→ファール。
2球目、真っ直ぐ→ファール。
これで2-0と追い込んだ。
3球目、低めのシュート→ダブルプレー&ゲームセット。

I refocused on the 3rd batter, Schneider. First pitch, shuuto -> foul ball. [Shuuto is that mysterious Japanese pitch – I don't know how to translate it. He only throws FB, slider, curve, right? It's not any of those. But the word he uses for FB is "massugu," which means "straight," or "direct" so maybe shuuto is a cut fastball? Or maybe there's a diff. b/w a 2-seamer and a 4-seamer? Looking back at the gamecast, the 1st and 3rd pitches were at 92, and the middle one at 93, so clearly it's some sort of FB.]

Second pitch, fastball -> foul ball, so I had him 0-2.
Third pitch, low shuuto -> double play, game over. [Literally, 'game-set' from tennis.]

やや当たりは強かったのですが、打球は内野手正面。ファーストゴロ併殺で仕留め
3アウト、1イニングを無失点に抑えて35セーブ目を挙げることができました。
コースと「低め」をちゃんと意識して、「隆スタイル」の投球ができたと思います。

The ball was hit hard, but right at the infielder. Double-play grounder to first, 3 outs, and I was able to get my 35th save with a scoreless inning of work.. I was conscious of location (actually "course") and keeping it low, and I think I was able to [throw] a "Takashi-style" pitch.

2007-08-31 19:18:53