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Be Quick, But Don't Hurry
2007-09-16 11:35
by Jon Weisman

Countdown to 81 wins: just two more.

Today's game:

Gameday

Retro Gameday

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2007-09-16 11:38:41
1.   TellMeTheScoreRickMonday
Shades of John Wooden!

UCLA could have used that advice yesterday.

2007-09-16 11:40:20
2.   Bob Timmermann
UCLA should have looked at one of the lesser-known parts of Wooden's Pyramid of Success. That is the part called "Non-suckiness."
2007-09-16 11:43:28
3.   Eric Enders
Or they could have examined the most important yet least discussed part of the Wooden Pyramid. The part called "Sam Gilbert."
2007-09-16 11:43:41
4.   Eric Enders
Josh Rawitch, while of course steadfastly refusing to criticize anything, has often noted that "as a fan" he doesn't always agree with all of the team's moves. It seems like he let a little bit of the "fan" come out today by making a point of noting Kemp's awesomeness right next to a lineup which was conspicuous for Kemp's absence.
2007-09-16 11:45:21
5.   Linkmeister
While UCLA dropped out and deservedly so, UH moved up to 18th in one poll and 19th in the other. Brennan played 3 quarters on a seriously sprained ankle, scoring 3 TDs on the ground in the 49-14 victory.
2007-09-16 11:45:43
6.   Linkmeister
Oh, polls can be found here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

2007-09-16 11:46:09
7.   Bob Timmermann
Sam Gilbert is so "under-mentioned" now that he's "over-mentioned."
2007-09-16 11:47:29
8.   MollyKnight
4- I enjoy Josh Rawitch.
2007-09-16 11:50:38
9.   Linkmeister
Bob, this one's for you: Notre Dame didn't even get into the "others receiving votes" category. Of course, there's no way they should, but I'm convinced some voters have an automatic check in the ND box on the ballot, and it's an opt-out rather than opt-in situation.

What time's the game? Gameday isn't loading yet.

2007-09-16 11:52:10
10.   Bob Timmermann
When I went to UCLA, I tried to bribe Jack Haley to quit the team, but it turned out that his family was already wealthy.

So I had to watch him play.

It took five years of intensive psychotherapy to recover from watching Jack Haley play center.

2007-09-16 11:52:34
11.   Bob Timmermann
9
1:10 PT is game time.
2007-09-16 11:53:28
12.   Linkmeister
Gracias.
2007-09-16 11:55:32
13.   Bob Timmermann
Rollins doubles in Werth to make it 5-2 Mets and Oliver Perez should be done. He's over 110 pitches in the fifth.
2007-09-16 11:57:49
14.   KG16
I know Gonzo had a homerun yesterday, but seriously, if you've got a guy who would win the league batting title if he qualified, how can you justify not playing him everyday?

On a related note, does anyone have a feeling like Loney and/or Kemp could be potential triple crown threats in the near future?

2007-09-16 11:59:25
15.   KG16
10 - funny, it's taking five years of intensive psychotherapy to get over watching Jack Haley do Kevin Kennedy-esque analysis for the Lakers.
2007-09-16 12:04:24
16.   Eric Enders
13 Much to my chagrin, it is not the Mets who are winning.
2007-09-16 12:05:20
17.   Dodgers49
On Tuesday the Dodgers will face lefthanded starters in both games of a doubleheader. So apparently, after watching Kemp tire himself out running out that triple, Grady Little is saving him for Tuesday's games.
2007-09-16 12:08:04
18.   MollyKnight
2 on, 1 out for Wright and the Mets in the 5th. Beltran on deck.
2007-09-16 12:12:50
19.   MollyKnight
2 on, 2 out for Beltran and the Mets in the fifth.
2007-09-16 12:15:02
20.   MollyKnight
YESSSSSSS!!! Beltran!!! 3 run shot!!

TIE GAME!!!!

2007-09-16 12:15:06
21.   MollyKnight
YESSSSSSS!!! Beltran!!! 3 run shot!!

TIE GAME!!!!

2007-09-16 12:15:06
22.   MollyKnight
YESSSSSSS!!! Beltran!!! 3 run shot!!

TIE GAME!!!!

2007-09-16 12:15:29
23.   Bluebleeder87
Beltran just hit a 3 RUN HOME RUN to tie it up in New York, WOO!
2007-09-16 12:15:36
24.   MollyKnight
Triple post for a three run homer!
2007-09-16 12:17:45
25.   Bluebleeder87
11

My sunday game is at 3 o'clock which is an awkward start for us, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna arrive a little late to my game.

2007-09-16 12:18:35
26.   worz
Anyone know what has happened to Tony Jackson? He hasn't updated it blog since Friday. It seems like a strange time to go missing, given where we are in the season.
2007-09-16 12:20:20
27.   The Mootz
O.J. has been arrested again.

Hope this doesn't deter him from finding the real killers.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/16/oj.simpson/index.html

2007-09-16 12:21:14
28.   Dodgers49
14. On a related note, does anyone have a feeling like Loney and/or Kemp could be potential triple crown threats in the near future?

I'm not sure that Loney will ever win a homerun title. But I've been a die-hard Dodgers fan since 1949. And in all those years Matt Kemp is the most talented position player to come up through the Dodgers system, IMHO. He has all five tools; power, avg, speed, arm and defensive ability that should improve with playing time. The only other Dodgers non-pitcher I can think of in all that time who might enter the HOF is Piazza and he only had two tools. I expect Kemp to be a 40/100 guy for years. But I'm just a fan, so who knows.

2007-09-16 12:27:41
29.   Eric Enders
26 I don't know, but he likely won't be updating it next week either, as the Dodgers visit Denver.

28 I'll buy everyone on this site a gold iPhone case if Loney ever leads the league in home runs. And while I think Kemp could someday lead the league in HR or BA, I don't think a Dodger will ever again lead the league in RBI. And if they do, it won't be while Juan Pierre is under contract.

2007-09-16 12:28:54
30.   MollyKnight
Mets make their fifth error of the day. They really want to let the Phillies back into the pennant race, some say.
2007-09-16 12:30:47
31.   Bob Timmermann
The Mets have now made five errors against the Phillies and there are two on and none out and Old Friend Guillermo Mota is trying to work out of the jam.
2007-09-16 12:33:52
32.   KG16
28/29 - the reason that I think they could both be triple crown threats is because they are hitting so well and if they were to have played a full season would be projected at 20 HRs each right now. Granted, that's not McGwire as a rookie numbers, but that's still pretty good for guys who are still learning the game.

28 - I'm in the group that believes Piazza is a first ballot hall of famer.

2007-09-16 12:39:08
33.   Bob Timmermann
Old Friend Werth with the bases loaded BB against Sosa. 6-5 Phillies.
2007-09-16 12:40:21
34.   MollyKnight
Pinch hit grand slam for Greg Dobbs. Phillies lead 10-5.
2007-09-16 12:41:31
35.   Bob Timmermann
The Phillies line score reads 10 7 1
2007-09-16 12:42:47
36.   Bluebleeder87
The Mets are DEAD to me.
2007-09-16 12:44:39
37.   MollyKnight
35--Mets line score 5 7 5.
2007-09-16 12:48:21
38.   Bob Timmermann
Through four innings today, all nine Astros have a hit and Josh Anderson (he's an Astro) is 4 for 4.

The Astros are ahead of Pittsburgh 13-2.

2007-09-16 12:50:04
39.   KG16
Don't know if anyone caught it, but the Dodgers have a poll on their front page that asks what their biggest need is this off season: starting pitcher, power hitting third baseman, power hitting out fielder, or other.

58% say power hitting third baseman. 19% each for starting pitcher and out fielder. the other 5% have not been following the team this year.

I voted for the 3rd baseman, if only because this last week has me worried about LaRoche's work ethic. Plus, I would really like to see A-Rod in Dodger Blue.

2007-09-16 12:50:10
40.   Dodgers49
29. And while I think Kemp could someday lead the league in HR or BA, I don't think a Dodger will ever again lead the league in RBI. And if they do, it won't be while Juan Pierre is under contract.

But why would a Dodger never again lead the league in RBI. We have some really talented youngsters. I expect Kemp to be the Dodgers cleanup hitter for years. And he could have both Martin and Loney hitting ahead of him.

And, as for Pierre, Ned says he gets on base an awful lot. :-)

2007-09-16 12:51:06
41.   Bob Timmermann
39
The biggest need are MORE outfielders. I think the Dodgers should have 10 on the roster at all times.
2007-09-16 12:51:11
42.   Eric Enders
36 It's not only you -- they're just about dead, period.
2007-09-16 12:52:07
43.   D4P
Triple post for a three run homer!

Who the heck is Greg Dobbs?
Who the heck is Greg Dobbs?
Who the heck is Greg Dobbs?
Who the heck is Greg Dobbs?

2007-09-16 12:52:20
44.   Bob Timmermann
42
The Mets finish with six against Washington, seven against Florida, and one against the Cardinals.

Not a demanding schedule.

2007-09-16 12:53:33
45.   Bob Timmermann
43
Greg Dobbs is part of the Phillies three-headed third baseman: Wes Helms (from the right), Greg Dobbs (from the left), and Abraham Nunez (who tries to catch the ball.)
2007-09-16 12:57:28
46.   Eric Enders
40 I agree that Loney and Kemp are talented, but accumulating lots of RBI has very little to do with talent. It has more to do with
1) playing in a great hitters' ballpark
2) having three hitters in front of you with close to .400 OBPs
3) walking relatively little

Only one Dodger has led the league in RBI since Dodger Stadium opened. And that guy did it with the league MVP batting in front of him.

2007-09-16 12:58:23
47.   Dodgers49
28 - I'm in the group that believes Piazza is a first ballot hall of famer.

I'm in that group also. The only catcher with better numbers than Piazza is Josh Gibson. Although most Josh's numbers didn't count.

2007-09-16 12:59:06
48.   Eric Enders
28 , 47 - I wasn't aware there was anyone who wasn't in that group.
2007-09-16 13:01:34
49.   KG16
Could Gonzo be getting all these starts because he's approaching 2500 hits? Anyone think if he gets to the milestone in the next few days, he'll see more pinch hitting assignment? Or will that big number be used as justification to insert his PVL into the lineup down the stretch?
2007-09-16 13:04:14
50.   Eric Enders
Gonzalez is only 5 hits away from 2,500, so he's going to get the milestone this year regardless. The only reason for playing him so much lately would seem to be that they are trying to arrange for him to reach the milestone on this upcoming road trip. Specifically, in Arizona.
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2007-09-16 13:04:50
51.   KG16
46 - yes, but until two years ago Dodger stadium was one of the most pitcher friendly ball parks in the majors (all that foul ground that is now box seating). I'm pretty sure someone around here has numbers that show that Dodger Stadium is now one of the more hitter friendly parks in the NL.

Which of course has me wondering, if the Dodgers were to break ground on a new stadium this off season (purely hypothetically), what kind of team would you build it for? Obviously, Dodger Stadium was built with Koufax and Drysdale in mind (much as Yankee Stadium was built with Ruth and Gerhig in mind).

2007-09-16 13:05:28
52.   KG16
50 - so you're saying three hits today and we won't see him in Colorado?
2007-09-16 13:06:37
53.   D4P
Didn't expect the Phillies to sweep the Mets.

Then again, didn't expect the Dodgers to sweep the DBacks. Not that they've done so yet, but regardless, I didn't expect it.

2007-09-16 13:08:06
54.   Bluebleeder87
And, as for Pierre, Ned says he gets on base an awful lot.

To be honest I was pretty happy Ned semi acknowledged Pierre was having a disappointing season (on a radio station interview a few months back) Pierre's had a great Aug & Sept though, but still. I bet Ned deep down inside knows he made a mistake signing a SINGLES HITTING CF, but that's just me, for all I know he's probably patting him self in the back by signing him.

2007-09-16 13:09:18
55.   Gen3Blue
Looks like the Mets are being swept clean allright.
2007-09-16 13:10:50
56.   Dodgers49
46. 40 I agree that Loney and Kemp are talented

When I said we have some very talented youngsters I didn't mean just Kemp and Loney. I was considering the other talent we'd have out there in front of them.

>> Only one Dodger has led the league in RBI since Dodger Stadium opened. And that guy did it with the league MVP batting in front of him. <<

I see Loney and Martin as future MVP candidates and both could end up batting in front of Kemp.

2007-09-16 13:11:56
57.   Eric Enders
51 I don't think it's particularly plausible that Dodger Stadium was built with Koufax and Drysdale in mind. Drysdale, maybe, but certainly not Koufax. The stadium opened in 1962, at which point Koufax was a wild left-hander who had never had a season ERA better than 3.52. And remember, the design work was done even earlier, in the late fifties, while Koufax was still spending most of his time in the bullpen.

Anyway, I'm not a big believer in building stadiums custom-made to the strengths of a particular player. The stadium ends up lasting a lot longer than the player, and then you're stuck with it. And really there's no precedent for this in baseball. Even the supposed "House that Ruth Built" was actually much worse suited for Babe Ruth's hitting than the Yankees' previous park.

2007-09-16 13:13:47
58.   Eric Enders
I will be delighted to be wrong when Loney and Kemp lead the league in RBI, by the way.
2007-09-16 13:13:56
59.   Bluebleeder87
La Roche will go deep today.
2007-09-16 13:13:59
60.   Gen3Blue
Bob, its still hardn to be ahead of Vin on Sept 16
2007-09-16 13:15:10
61.   trainwreck
Loaiza looks like he's on his game.
2007-09-16 13:16:06
62.   Bob Timmermann
"¡Viva la Virgen de Guadalupe! ¡Viva Fernando VII! ¡Abajo el mal gobierno!"
2007-09-16 13:16:58
63.   Bluebleeder87
61

Byrnes fly ball wasn't cool though.

2007-09-16 13:17:28
64.   Eric Enders
The Mets are teasing us as a Wright homer makes it 10-6.
2007-09-16 13:17:43
65.   MollyKnight
David Wright joins the 30/30 club.
2007-09-16 13:18:55
66.   Bluebleeder87
62

!I Viva Mexico! some of the words the president of Mexico will be hollering tonight.

2007-09-16 13:19:12
67.   KG16
57 - I think it would be foolish to not look at how you have built your team when designing a stadium. Ideally, having built a team shows a certain type of baseball philosophy and you would want to give your team as much of an advantage as possible, no? I mean, you play half the games each season at the park. It's sort of a chicken and the egg thing. If you've built a team with a lot of power, you're going to want short porches and as little foul ground as possible. If you've got good pitching and a lot of line drive hitters, you're going to want more foul territory, higher fences that are pushed back a bit.

But it's a chicken-and-egg thing, I suppose.

2007-09-16 13:22:00
68.   ToyCannon
I thought the Dodger montage for this week was as good as I've seen.
2007-09-16 13:22:35
69.   Bob Timmermann
Josh Anderson of Houston is now 5 for 5 and he may get one more swing.
2007-09-16 13:23:25
70.   KG16
69 - alert status?
2007-09-16 13:23:59
71.   Bob Timmermann
The Retro version of Gameday has interesting locations for the pitches to Pierre. All but the first were marked as going over his head.
2007-09-16 13:24:23
72.   Jon Weisman
Pierre twice swung at ball 4 but wasn't punished.
2007-09-16 13:24:49
73.   D4P
Retro Gameday's pitch location thingie has sure been messed up lately. Either it shows every pitch in the heart of the plate, or it starts showing pitches in the upper left hand corner of the diagram, above a left-handed hitter's head.
2007-09-16 13:24:53
75.   Bob Timmermann
Josh Anderson has four singles and a double. There are no alerts for hearty congratulations.
2007-09-16 13:24:58
76.   Bluebleeder87
67

I like stadiums suited for pitchers, as a fan I think you appreciate a well pitched game a lot more, but if your gonna hit a HOME RUN as a FAN you want them to be legit, don't get me wrong I like dingers as well but a well played game (looking at you Mets) is always a lot more appreciated.

2007-09-16 13:25:38
77.   Eric Enders
67 But in the free agency era, that plan would work for, what, one year? Two, max? Remember, you have to design your ballpark several years before actually playing your first game there.
2007-09-16 13:25:50
78.   Bob Timmermann
74
But what about when he gets a hit?
2007-09-16 13:27:13
79.   Gen3Blue
Although Loaiza did begin to look on his game, he gave me the start I'm used to with D's pitchers not looking warmed up. Of the first handful of pitches one went to the warning track and one to the backstop.
2007-09-16 13:28:16
81.   trainwreck
That was not even close.
2007-09-16 13:32:50
82.   silverwidow
There is no way - NO WAY - Loaiza gets through 2008 in the rotation.
2007-09-16 13:33:45
83.   Izzy
I have a simpler view of why Gonzo is playing. It's the same reason Wells pitches when we play the Pods. The reality is that players are competitive and play with a chip on their shoulder against teams that have "dissed" "dumped" or "thrown them away." Some managers exploit that. To some degree I agree. The bother to me has always been why it takes a grudge to make a guy play well. Obviously, they have the ability in them. Why not use it all the time.
2007-09-16 13:35:19
84.   Bluebleeder87
Loaiza is giving me the hee bee jee bees with his shenanigans.
2007-09-16 13:35:33
85.   D4P
The bother to me has always been why it takes a grudge to make a guy play well. Obviously, they have the ability in them. Why not use it all the time

Exactly. That same goes for "clutch". If you could truly hit better under "pressure" (presumably by changing your approach), why not just use the altered approach all the time?

2007-09-16 13:36:21
86.   Bluebleeder87
82

he has back problems (disc I think) if he heals we should be o.k. with him, but I hear your what your saying.

2007-09-16 13:36:44
87.   D4P
It's kind of amazing that Rollins will probably out-out Pierre this season, despite an OPS roughly 200 points higher.
2007-09-16 13:37:48
88.   Suffering Bruin
Way off topic but I'm curious:

How long before people call for Charlie Weis' head? And if this were Ty Willingham's team, wouldn't he be gone already?

2007-09-16 13:38:19
89.   KG16
77 - yes and no. As an example, I'm the type of person, that if I were to be putting a team together, I'd be looking for good to very good starting pitching, line drive hitters, and solid defense. So, I'd want to build a stadium like Dodger Stadium use to be. That philosophy would hold year in and year out. So, in theory, it would last for as long as I'm in charge of the stadium.

But, if I've got a stadium first, say, I take over a franchise that is not doing well. I would absolutely look at how the stadium is built when building the team. If I've got a short porch in right, I'd want more left handers who pull the ball or right handers who can go the other way. As an example, let's say I had a team that played in a stadium built like the old Polo Grounds... there is no way I would even think of signing a center fielder like Juan Pierre.

Unfortunately, few teams have a lasting philosophy any more, changing GMs like I change my underwear. Also, I'd point out that the A's approach of late has worked in part because of they way their stadium is set up (ton of foul territory, 330 down the lines, etc)

2007-09-16 13:38:54
90.   Bob Timmermann
88
A friend at work said that Charlie Weis' biggest win at Notre Dame was the close loss to USC.
2007-09-16 13:39:42
91.   Suffering Bruin
Does Loaiza throw over 85 mph? Ever?
2007-09-16 13:39:47
92.   MJW101
Worst case scenario in 2008:

C Martin/Liberthal
1B Loney/Sweeney
2B Kent/Abreu
SS Furcal/Martinez
3B Nomar/Hillenbrand
CF Pierre
RF Kemp/Ethier
LF Pasted Prime Veteran
SP Penny
SP Billingsley
SP Lowe
SP Loazia
SP Schmidt
CL Saito
SU Broxton
RP Proctor
RP Beimel
RP Seanez
RP Hendrickson

2007-09-16 13:40:05
93.   Bob Timmermann
Now the "grito" is something of a Mexican version of Edward Munch's masterpiece.
2007-09-16 13:40:16
94.   Linkmeister
Oh fudge.
2007-09-16 13:40:36
96.   MMSMikey
not a good day to fall behind 3-0
2007-09-16 13:40:44
98.   MollyKnight
Never fear: Hendrickson is warming in the pen.
2007-09-16 13:41:17
99.   Suffering Bruin
92 That team looks very familiar...
2007-09-16 13:41:55
101.   Bob Timmermann
Josh Anderson was hit by a pitch in his last plate appearance in Houston.
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2007-09-16 13:42:18
102.   D4P
I wonder if Ojeda's dear ole' dad every watches him play
2007-09-16 13:42:40
103.   King of the Hobos
87 It helps that Rollins has about 50 more PAs than Pierre.
2007-09-16 13:43:58
104.   MMSMikey
loiza just looks so un impressive
2007-09-16 13:45:18
105.   Gen3Blue
I can't think of much that disgusts me as much as a Major league pitcher who gives up excessive walks. OK, a home run-thats one run, but this was shameful. We seem to be back to our August starting mode.
Now lets get some runs.
2007-09-16 13:46:18
107.   Suffering Bruin
I blame myself. I've been off the site and haven't seen a game during the first two weeks of school. I check in and ask about Notre Dame football, just to break the ice and boom-- a three run shot.

I should go for a jog or something.

2007-09-16 13:46:55
108.   trainwreck
MLB TV keeps dying out on me.
2007-09-16 13:47:17
109.   KG16
108 - you ain't missing much
2007-09-16 13:47:19
110.   Suffering Bruin
106 Based on very, very recent results, being compared to Tomko is a good thing. But I get what you're saying...
2007-09-16 13:47:35
111.   Bluebleeder87
If Loaiza only gives up these 3 runs, I'm naively thinking we're still in this thing.
2007-09-16 13:47:36
112.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Guys... it's OK... Ned saved the receipt
2007-09-16 13:48:01
113.   MMSMikey
this better not be one of those games.
2007-09-16 13:48:06
114.   Bluebleeder87
Gonzalez (pitcher) isn't fooling anybody either, it's just a matter of time...
2007-09-16 13:48:55
115.   Curtis Lowe
If the Dodgers are only going to lose Loaiza starts the rest of the way they should be bale to make it into the Post season.
2007-09-16 13:49:09
116.   MJW101
2008 Best case scenario:

C Martin/Leiberthal
1B Loney/Sweeney
2B Kent/Abreu
SS Furcal/Hu
3B LaRoche/Nomar
LF Ethier
CF Pierre
RF Kemp
OF Young
SP Penny
SP Lowe
SP Billingsley
SP Wolf (assuming he is healthy)
SP Kuo (assuming he is healthy)
CL Saito
SU Broxton
RP Meloan
RP Hull
RP Beimel
RP Proctor

2007-09-16 13:49:44
117.   King of the Hobos
That first out certainly wasn't reassuring.
2007-09-16 13:50:22
118.   Gen3Blue
Come on guys. We can't afford to lets the snakes get to their bull-pen if they are going to use the good part of it. How come this guy looks like he is goint to make a quality start?
2007-09-16 13:51:08
119.   KG16
116 - I would think any best case scenario would include Alex Rodriguez at third or short.
2007-09-16 13:52:20
120.   Bluebleeder87
SP Kuo (assuming he is healthy)

That guy is NEVER gonna be 100% for a WHOLE season, I really hope we show case him & hopefully get some value for him, you can bank on that.

2007-09-16 13:54:42
122.   trainwreck
Raiders/Broncos game suspended for thunderstorms. Never seen this before.
2007-09-16 13:57:21
124.   D4P
Gonzalez (pitcher) isn't fooling anybody either, it's just a matter of time...

There's a good chance 3 runs won't be enough to win this game.

2007-09-16 13:58:56
125.   Bob Timmermann
122
They've done it a few times before in the NFL. Purdue had a game a couple weeks ago that was delayed because of lightning.

And all the stands there are metal.

2007-09-16 13:59:41
126.   Ricardo
Will Grady pinch hit for Loaiza?
2007-09-16 14:00:29
128.   D4P
Grittle will let Loaiza hit and then send Hendrickson in to start the 4th.
2007-09-16 14:01:53
131.   MMSMik