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$9,500,000 Brad Penny
$7,000,000 Esteban Loaiza
*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
Total: $39,300,000

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*$500,000 Jonathan Broxton
$500,000 Chan Ho Park
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$500,000 Russell Martin
*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
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$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
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*$400,000 Tony Abreu
*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
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$487,500 Jason Repko
$135,225 Rudy Seanez
$100,000 Mike Lieberthal
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At Their Mercy
2007-10-10 09:02
by Jon Weisman

Tony Jackson of the Daily News starts speculating about the Dodgers' offseason plans today. I'm still not ready.

I'm feeling a little fatalistic these days and disinclined to agonize over what the Dodgers should and shouldn't do. While there are nuances to any individual moves, in general the approach the Dodgers should take seems so obvious, and has been discussed here so many times, I don't really feel like belaboring it. They either get it or they don't.

This is a critical offseason. The Dodgers, despite their missteps, have a strong core to build upon. At the same time, the National League West has clearly been strengthening as well. The temptations that have waylaid the Dodgers in the past will reemerge, and the main consolation is the hope that somehow, some way, the right lessons from 2007 will have been learned, and not the wrong ones.

* * *

In this MILB.com story about Jonathan Meloan being named the minor leagues' AA reliever of the year, Dodgers' minor league pitching coordinator doesn't rule out Meloan starting in the majors at some point.

"Jon is extremely strong and aggressive on the mound, and a lot of us in the organization felt that he would get to the big leagues faster if he was in the bullpen." ...

Still, Reed won't rule out a return to the rotation for the burly righty, saying that while his best long-term projections are as a reliever, he has the ability and flexibility to become a successful starter.

"I wouldn't rule out him going back [to starting]," Reed said. "There were many times this season where it looked like Jon could have helped out the big club right away. Where a player ends up all depends on the player himself. Jonathan Broxton has the stuff to be a starter, but he's doing well in the 'pen, so why move him? Chad Billingsley is just the reverse.

"If he keeps progressing at this rate, this young man has a very good chance at a roster spot with the Dodgers come Opening Day."

* * *

The Dodgers will bid to be a host for the 2009 World Baseball Classic, according to City News Service.

* * *

Anyone who can't find the joy in the upcoming Rockies-Diamondbacks playoff series ... all I can say is, their loss. Short of the Dodgers playing for the National League Championship, this is about as fresh and interesting and entertaining a combination as the NL could have produced.

Update: Average age per plate appearance, courtesy of David Pinto at Baseball Musings.

Arizona had the third-youngest offense in baseball (age 26.5). Colorado was seventh (27.8). The Dodgers were 17th (29.6).

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2007-10-10 09:33:33
1.   Kevin Lewis
I completely agree, Jon. I am looking forward to this series because I have no idea what to expect from these two teams. They have played so well, and I can't wait to see the pitching match ups.
2007-10-10 09:41:04
2.   Bob Timmermann
Why in the world does the County Board of Supervisors have to give the Dodgers approval to host some WBC games?

Is it to pay for extra security? Are they worried about the Cubans stirring up trouble? (I originally typed Cubs.)

At the WBC in 2006 at Anaheim, I learned one thing. It's cold at night in March out here.

2007-10-10 09:42:40
3.   Terry A
Meloan and LaRoche could well be the guys who, at the end of the 2008 season, we'll look back upon and say, "Colletti should've played those two from the start of the season instead of signing a worn-out veteran to block them."

And despite my hatred of all things Diamondback, I'm looking forward to this NLCS. Go Rockies!

2007-10-10 09:42:53
4.   LogikReader
Humma K, I believe it was, must be particularly excited about the NLCS as he noted before the Division Series.

This really is great to see, and you would hope the Dodgers pick up a few tips from this postseason, such as, let the youngsters play and proven veteran experience gets you the magic of Roger Clemens and Mike Mussina this year.

Knowing the Dodgers destiny for mediocrity, though, I am not as optimistic as Jon is.

Is it really true that the Dodgers are going to keep Hendrickson around? As Dwight says, "You are not off to a very good start."

2007-10-10 09:43:01
5.   D4P
2
You had never been outside at night in March prior to the 2006 WBC...?
2007-10-10 09:43:50
6.   Terry A
(..."worn-out veteran*s* to block them...")
2007-10-10 09:46:49
7.   jasonungar07
"We have to go through the club player by player," Colletti said. "Some players take longer to discuss than others. There may be a position change or two, and there may be a role change or two that may need to be discussed."

Assuming Pierre is one change, who is the other..or am taking Coletti to literal..Like Pierre gets on base "an awful lot"

2007-10-10 09:47:14
8.   Jon Weisman
4 - It still makes no sense to me, even from a Colletti persepective, that Hendrickson will get over $3 million to be the worst pitcher on the staff. Last year, Colletti still had hope for him. I don't see that he does now. I won't believe Hendrickson is coming back until I see it.

By the way, how was my post optimistic?

2007-10-10 09:49:24
9.   LogikReader
8

I was being sarcastic.

2007-10-10 09:50:38
10.   LogikReader
and...

You did mention the Dodgers have a strong core to build upon. And I believe you held out hope that "somehow, some way, the right lessons from 2007 will have been learned, and not the wrong ones."

I thought that was optimistic.

2007-10-10 09:50:54
11.   D4P
Last year, Colletti still had hope for him. I don't see that he does now

Less than 2 years ago, Colletti infamously referred to Hendrickson as a top-10 lefty in the American League. It's not completely unreasonable to think that Ned still thinks highly of him.

2007-10-10 09:52:15
12.   jasonungar07
I didn't take you as positive at all. Opposite in fact. It seems like you are putting your hands over your eyes when watching a scary part of a movie.

But peeking.

I agree about Henderickson, by dumb luck we could do better then him.

2007-10-10 09:52:24
13.   bhsportsguy
8 Let's just hope that they find a few other options on the 40 man roster.
2007-10-10 09:53:54
14.   bhsportsguy
I will say this, if the off-season goes by and the kids are all here come opening day, than can we at least stop worrying about that?
2007-10-10 09:55:20
15.   Jon Weisman
11 - It's not completely unreasonable, but consider what Hendrickson's numbers were when he made that quote and what they are now. It's more reasonable to think, given that Colletti cut Tomko, that his opinion can and will change.
2007-10-10 09:55:42
16.   Marty
I'm rooting for a World Series in late October in Denver. That could be interesting.

Of course, Denver has no corner on "lousy weather in October" department. Boston and Cleveland can get pretty nasty too.

2007-10-10 09:57:15
17.   Marty
14 If the off-season goes by and half the kids are gone, we can also stop worrying about it.
2007-10-10 09:57:16
18.   JoeyP
7--What positions changes does anyone see?

Pierre in LF is the only thing I can think of.

2007-10-10 09:57:58
19.   D4P
Speaking of lousy weather in October: it was in the low 90s here the past two days, including a high of 94 yesterday.
2007-10-10 10:03:06
20.   Jon Weisman
18 - Delwyn Young to emergency catcher!
2007-10-10 10:04:18
21.   JoeyP
Jonathan Broxton has the stuff to be a starter, but he's doing well in the 'pen, so why move him? Chad Billingsley is just the reverse.

Didnt Billingsley pitch really real in the bullpen also though?

Maybe, just maybe good pitchers pitch good no matter where they are inserted because they are in fact "good".

Broxton/Billingsley/Penny/Kershaw/McDonald would be a very high upside rotation for around June of 2008. Trade Lowe this off-season, Expect nothing from Schmidt/Loaiza, and put the 3 kids into the rotation by the end of May.

2007-10-10 10:11:11
22.   Wilbert Robinson
(answering my own question from the previous post) well I just found out that the AFL will be televised live on mlb.com starting 11/5.
2007-10-10 10:11:45
23.   Bob Timmermann
Elsewhere on Baseball Toaster:

"So now we are left with a TBS nightmare in the NLCS—two expansion teams from the middle of nowhere that no one really cares much about"

2007-10-10 10:13:58
24.   Connector
11 15
My major gripe with Hendrickson was that he pitched without feeling, like a guy who 'went through the motions' at a job he hated
2007-10-10 10:15:14
25.   Andrew Shimmin
Colletti's overarching philosophy of general management is that there's no such thing as too much. Five on five CFs versus the shortstops games in 2006? Rock on. Three or more first basemen on the 25 man roster for most of the 2007 season? Sounds like a plan. Lucille II, Wilson Valdez, and Tony Abreu (Abreu has legitimate hope of being much better, but I think he more or less belonged in this class, this year)? We can give that a go. Especially with pitching, all Colletti wants is more.
2007-10-10 10:15:40
26.   D4P
23
TBS: An expansion network in the middle of channel lineup nowhere that no one really cares much about.

Irony...?

2007-10-10 10:17:05
27.   Connector
23 Whoever said that is making conclusions without any basis in fact.
2007-10-10 10:17:43
28.   kinbote
18 laroche or nomar to 2b?

(& El Lay Dave--you're right about the "little ball" comment. i should have left that out. i was going for something, but nevermind.)

2007-10-10 10:18:30
29.   regfairfield
21 Broxton's stuff moved from good to absurd when he went to the pen. He likely won't be nearly as effective as a starter. Plus consider that he got gassed after about 70 innings last year and has never thrown more than 128 at any point.

Broxton is far more valuable as a vicious reliever than as a guy with a mid fours ERA as a starter.

2007-10-10 10:22:45
30.   Andrew Shimmin
Is Meloan the one who has a "max-effort" delivery or is he the one who was unjustly accused of having one, causing much tooth gnashing here?
2007-10-10 10:23:44
31.   underdog
23 I couldn't resist responding to him, against my better judgment.

It's just your typical bitter east coast bias rearing its head again.

2007-10-10 10:29:58
32.   Marty
Tony Jackson is always saying Billingsley has a "maximum effort" delivery.
2007-10-10 10:34:45
33.   silverwidow
32 - TJ always says Billingsley throws too many pitches. I believe it was Gurnick who referred to Chad's supposed "max effort" delievery.
2007-10-10 10:35:25
34.   regfairfield
How can you look at someone like Lincecum and then say that Chad has a max effort delivery?
2007-10-10 10:39:57
35.   Daniel Zappala
At the WBC in 2006 at Anaheim, I learned one thing. It's cold at night in March out here.

I scoff in your general direction.

2007-10-10 10:51:12
36.   Bob Timmermann
35
How about this:

In Southern California, night baseball games in March will not be a pleasant experience for regular inhabitants of the area.

2007-10-10 10:55:15
37.   Daniel Zappala
36 That's better. :-) No matter the time of year, when we visit LA my kids pack mostly short sleeves and shorts, and pretty much ignore the coat we packed "just in case".
2007-10-10 10:57:08
38.   Linkmeister
31 I snarled back too, even resorting to quoting GHW Bush.
2007-10-10 10:58:59
39.   FirstMohican
21 - I think he's saying Chad's the reverse in that he's doing so well as a starter, why change that, not he did so poorly in the pen, that a change to the rotation is necessary.
2007-10-10 11:00:05
40.   D4P
38
"Not gonna declare the series a 'TBS nightmare' at this juncture. Wouldn't be prudent."
2007-10-10 11:00:59
41.   Bob Timmermann
But would I be insane to plan a trip to Germany in January?
2007-10-10 11:04:56
42.   old dodger fan
I don't think many East Coasters will turn on a Rockies-D'Backs game that starts at 10 pm. I expect games 2 and 4 will have really bad East Coast ratings. On top of that game 4 will be competing with the 2nd half of MNF.
2007-10-10 11:06:16
43.   be2ween
3 Hatred of all things D-Back? There's a thread right there! The Byrnes factor - please God, don't give him a ring. The 6 or 7 logos. And what COLOR IS that jersey?
Let's Go Rah-kies!
Let's Go Rah-kies!
2007-10-10 11:06:32
44.   jasonungar07
Is anyone going to Bruce Springsteen here in LA at the end of the month?
2007-10-10 11:13:37
45.   Bob Timmermann
43
The Rockies do wear purple.

That has to count against them.

2007-10-10 11:19:45
46.   Daniel Zappala
41 Snow is nothing to be afraid of. If you're in a big city, other people clear it away for you, or (especially in Europe) you take public transport anyway. If you're out in the wilderness, you can ski on it.
2007-10-10 11:22:12
47.   underdog
I think we can definitely mock both teams' uniforms, regardless of how you feel otherwise - that's fair game!
2007-10-10 11:22:17
48.   Daniel Zappala
42 I don't think many east coasters would turn on the NLCS even if it started at Just The Right Time. I think this degrades their status as True Baseball Fans.
2007-10-10 11:22:49
49.   bhsportsguy
42 If the Dodgers were playing the Milwaukee Brewers would the ratings be any different?

When the Lakers and Suns play those 10:30 playoff games on TNT, do they grab much of an audience?

The only sport that gets a decent rating for its post season is the NFL, why, they play on weekends, its one and your done and people bet on the games.

I'm annoyed that I probably won't see a lot of the AL Series, but its more the time slot then the teams playing that will affect TBS's rating.

2007-10-10 11:23:32
50.   D4P
But would I be insane to plan a trip to Germany in January?

Only if it means not going to Mac Court for a Duck basketball game.

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2007-10-10 11:31:07
51.   Dark Horse
It's funny, I can't hate this year's Dbacks, even though I loathed the '01 squad, nor can I hate the Rockies even though they drove a spike through my heart this year: Helton's dinger off Saito was the death blow. Yet they're so obviously the better team (than ours, I mean) and as for the Dbacks, well, Orlando Hudson wins me over. Both teams' futures scare me--this'll be a tough division for a while--but unlike the Padres and the Jints, whom I detest on principle, I find every team in the postseason this year wildly charismatic.

Except the Red Sox, of course. They're now as despicable to me as the Yankees. A Rox/Indians Series would be something. I can imagine Carmona and Jimenez locking horns in a Smoltz/Morris type duel...

2007-10-10 11:32:57
52.   old dodger fan
49 "The only sport that gets a decent rating for its post season is the NFL, why, they play on weekends, its one and your done and people bet on the games."

I assume you mean pro sports because College Basketball and Football do OK.

2007-10-10 11:33:14
53.   natepurcell
should the dodgers non tender tsao?
2007-10-10 11:37:02
54.   Bob Timmermann
52
College basketball's postseason ratings have been dropping every year.

Except in the Billy Packer ratings.

But Billy is insane.

And someone at work thinks he's insane too and tells me that every time he sees me.

It's a whole creepy circle of Billy Packer insanity.

2007-10-10 11:37:57
55.   Daniel Zappala
53 What's the alternative? How much would he cost and can they stash him in the minor leagues?
2007-10-10 11:39:57
56.   bhsportsguy
55 He's on the 40 man roster, I think that is the issue.
2007-10-10 11:44:53
57.   Humma Kavula
4 Indeed, this series is making me rethink my hatreds. I used to be The Guy Who Hated the Rockies. And there are still lots of things that annoy me about them. But this year's Rockies (and D-Backs for that matter) are pretty much being run the way I wish the Dodgers were being run. How can I hate that? My heart isn't really in it. I need to find a new National League team to hate.

The problem is -- who? The Giants are too easy. The Padres are too trendy. The Marlins, Nationals, Reds, and Pirates are too bad. The Phillies or Cubs would be an option, but they've been so bad for so long that it kind of seems pointless. The Brewers are too exciting. The Braves are too boring. Bob has cornered the market on the Cardinals.

That leaves the Astros and the Mets. I'll put it up to a vote: Who do I hate?

2007-10-10 11:46:41
58.   Bob Timmermann
57
The Mets.

It's a no-brainer.

I'm just surprised you hated the Rockies.

2007-10-10 11:47:17
59.   Humma Kavula
58 Somebody had to hate the Rockies. Nobody else was doing it, so I filled the void.
2007-10-10 11:48:06
60.   CajunDodger
56
I would resign him if the price is <$1 million. Otherwise, I would take a pass on the healthcare bill and MRIs he will need.

Then San Diego will pick him up and he will proceed to go 85 innings with a 2.35 ERA and a 1.07 WHIP.

2007-10-10 11:48:21
61.   fanerman
I don't like the D-Backs. I want a Cleveland/Colorado WS.

I don't hate the Red Sox. I love Manny too much. And they're managed well ("moneyball" except with the huge payroll). Sure they're ESPN's darling, but that's not all their fault.

2007-10-10 11:49:08
62.   CajunDodger
58
Hating the Rockies to me is like hating the Reds...up until now I hardly noticed them.
2007-10-10 11:50:13
63.   caseybarker
I always liked the Mets because my best friend was a fan. Of course, that was the Mets of Kieth Hernandez, Howard Johnson, Ron Darling, etc...

I could hate the Mets the way they're comprised now.

2007-10-10 11:50:58
64.   Eric Stephen
53 ,56 I think it depends entirely on his health. I would guess he'd make between $500-$800k in arbitration, which really isn't that much more than the minimum.

If he's healthy, ready to pitch by May at the latest, and they can determine this by December, I would offer him arbitration.

Right now the back of the bullpen will be:

Saito
Broxton
Beimel (arb)
Proctor (arb)

The other 2-3 spots figure to be filled by a combo of Brazoban (another key decision), Tsao, Meloan, plus a long man or two that may or may not be acquired.

2007-10-10 11:52:26
65.   CajunDodger
61
I have thought that Theo managed them adequately. The Drew, Lugo, and Gagne signings have been disasters and Daisuke is merely OK for Zambrano money. I would give him a C+ or a B- in signings, but his team sure is executing well at the right time...
2007-10-10 11:52:28
66.   old dodger fan
I don't hate any teams except the Yankees unless we expand the field to include the NFL and NBA. The list then grows.
2007-10-10 11:53:34
67.   Bob Timmermann
62
Hating the Reds used to be a very common thing for Dodgers fans in the 1970s.
2007-10-10 11:53:50
68.   Jacob L
62 Hating the Reds was serious business back in the day.

61 I hear ya, but I'm starting to question the whole "Red Sox" are managed well theme. Keeping Manny and David around seems like a no-brainer (and much props to Theo for getting David in the first place). On the other side of the ledger, they've let an awful lot of young talent slip through their fingers (Hanley, Freddy Sanchez). They played musical chairs and shortstop and found themselves with Julio Lugo when the music stopped.

2007-10-10 11:55:26
69.   Robert Daeley
Hated teams in order of hatedness:

1. Giants (the ur-hate)
2. Padres (developed this year)
3. Yankees

Disliked teams:
1. Mets (may move to hated list)
2. Diamondbacks
3. Rockies

Favorite teams:

1. Dodgers
2. Whoever's playing the Giants

2007-10-10 11:59:21
70.   Jacob L
63 Boy, I think most people would find the mid 80s Mets to be more "hate-able" than the current version. The arrogance. The coke. The clubhouse tension. There was a book claiming that they were the most motley crew (crue?) to win a championship, which is saying something given the 70s As won three of them.

The only thing I see to hate about the current Mets is the over-hype for Minaya, and his All Star Team approach to assembling a roster.

2007-10-10 12:02:49
71.   Bob Timmermann
70
I find the Mets to have the most loathsome fans.
2007-10-10 12:04:10
72.   D4P
Hating the Reds used to be a very common thing for Dodgers fans in the 1970s

And the 80s, along with most of the other members of the old NL West.

2007-10-10 12:04:36
73.   old dodger fan
71 I have been to 12 MLB stadiums and my vote goes to the Phillies.
2007-10-10 12:14:08
74.   Eric Enders
71 My feeling is pretty much the opposite. Mets fans are great. They're the antidote to Yankees fans, too. If you live in New York and you're basically a decent human being, you are a Mets fan. If you're a scum-sucking waste of space, you're a Yankee fan. There are a few, but only a few, exceptions to this rule.

The worst fans were Giants fans during the Candlestick days. Complete animals. But since Phone Co. Park opened that crowd has become pretty gentrified and laid-back.

At least Giants fans care. The fans I dislike the most are the ones who generally just don't give a hoot, like Braves and Diamondbacks fans.

2007-10-10 12:17:50
75.   Humma Kavula
Of course, I left out one team among the teams I could hate in 57 .

And when Matt Kemp is traded for a middle reliever, things might be a little clearer.

2007-10-10 12:18:46
76.   KG16
70 - the coke actually made the Mets easier to like... or so I'm told.

There really isn't a team that I hate in baseball, anymore. Sometimes I think I've evolved beyond hate, and then I am reminded of the Utah Jazz and the San Antonio Spurs.

Maybe if the trend of home grown talents sticks for a while and rosters stay a bit more constant, I can find a team to loath... hope spring eternal.

2007-10-10 12:19:14
77.   Humma Kavula
Here's a real-life question:

I work in Culver City. I need to be in Northridge at 7:15.

What time do I need to leave Culver? Do I have any choice but to take the 405? Will Sepulveda be any better?

2007-10-10 12:21:09
78.   D4P
The worst fans were Giants fans during the Candlestick days

I saw my first career MLB game (at the age of 9) at Candlestick. Giants fans dumped beer on me.

2007-10-10 12:27:46
79.   Bob Timmermann
77
If you leave at 5:45 and take the 405, you will get Northridge with time to spare. You could probably leave at 6 and have time to spare.

Sepulveda would not be a better alternative unless a tanker truck explodes on the freeway.

Then I suggest ducking.

2007-10-10 12:28:15
80.   jasonungar07
For what it's worth I threw up all over 4 Giants fans in Candlestick. They were middle aged Asian couples. Chan Ho was pitching. That's all I remember. That was in my CHICO road trip days. I was hazed because I was the only dodger fan among the crowd of us in the town car we rented. Total Animal House.
2007-10-10 12:31:27
81.   D4P
Total Animal House

Except, your story has greater-than-zero humor.

2007-10-10 12:32:36
82.   Bob Timmermann
74
Mets fans have referred to my late father with profanities despite never meeting him. Mets fans have told me that L.A. is not a sports town and Mets fans always stay to the bitter end of every game (except for this year apparently).

They've sworn at me for no good reason.

They all seem to hate themselves.

I can deal with Yankee fans much easier.

2007-10-10 12:33:01
83.   underdog
74 I know too many great Yankee fans and obnoxious Mets fans to even comment on that, except to say it's a massive generality.
2007-10-10 12:33:21
84.   jasonungar07
80 Oh and if that was at Dodger Staidum or Jack Murphy I would have been ashamed and embarrassed. Because it was at Candlestick and the crap I had to endure over 4 years of college in the Bay Area (and going to Giant games or cruising campus in Blue) it's like a badge of honor. Like I was a freedom fighter or something. I really didn't mean it, it was one of those that just sorta hits you when you drink to fast or smell Heineken or something...
2007-10-10 12:35:33
85.   D4P
82
Which team's fans threw rubber balls at your neck...?
2007-10-10 12:36:33
86.   Bob Timmermann
85
Those were my pals in the RF pavilion at Dodger Stadium!

I think they didn't like my Team South Africa cap.

2007-10-10 12:40:14
87.   Penarol1916
74. How can you hate fans who don't give a hoot and not mention Cubs "fans" at Wrigley. I've been to games in most every stadium, and in only have I ever been asked the following:
"What happened?"
"What is the score?"
"Who are we playing?"
"Which team is hitting?"
And it was not in Atlanta or Arizona.
2007-10-10 12:40:28
88.   D4P
I just read that the earth has not only been found to be getting hotter, but also more humid.

Thanks, earth. You big jerk.

2007-10-10 12:40:39
89.   Eric Enders
83 Yes it is a massive generality. When you're discussing which team's fans are better than others, the whole conversation consists of massive generalities.
2007-10-10 12:41:18
90.   regfairfield
I'm proud to say that I've only been hit with an empty beer cup at Dodger Stadium.

People weren't happy that I dumped the beach ball over the railing twice.

2007-10-10 12:46:25
91.   Eric Enders
90 Which mostly just proves that Dodger fans have the best aim!
2007-10-10 12:47:17
92.   silverwidow
64 I don't see Meloan starting the year in L.A. He's probably in for at least 1/2 season in Vegas.
2007-10-10 12:48:41
93.   ToyCannon
I've been hit with a fist at Dodger Stadium. Things were rough in 75.
2007-10-10 12:51:43
94.   silverwidow
From last year's BA Top 10 with my guesses on where they'll start:

1. ANDY LAROCHE - Vegas
2. CLAYTON KERSHAW - Jacksonville
3. SCOTT ELBERT - Jacksonville
4. JAMES LONEY - L.A.
5. TONY ABREU - L.A.
6. IVAN DEJESUS JR - Jacksonville
7. JONATHAN MELOAN - Vegas
8. BLAKE DEWITT - Jacksonville
9. JOSH BELL - Inland Empire
10. PRESTON MATTINGLY - Great Lakes

2007-10-10 12:54:12
95.   Disabled List
74 Mets fans are baseball's version of Raiders fans. I've seen Dodger games in six ballparks outside of LA. Only at Shea have I ever been threatened, verbally abused, and subjected to flying projectiles.

I do, however, have a couple of friends who are Mets fans, and they're good folks. But we're speaking in generalities here, right?

2007-10-10 12:55:08
96.   D4P
But we're speaking in generalities here, right?

For the most part.

2007-10-10 12:58:43
97.   Sospiro0
Considering a Dodger fan stabbed a Giants fan, you could argue that we have the worst fans....though getting beer dum