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Twice Around the Park with Chan Ho
2007-11-08 10:30
by Jon Weisman

Filling the Wilson Alvarez/Jose Lima/Scott Erickson/Aaron Sele veteran shot-in-the-dark slot at Dodger Spring Training next season could be an old friend.

Other sites are linking to the Kim Tong-hyung/Korea Times news that Chan Ho Park is saying he has signed a contract with the Dodgers to give him a chance to try out for the team in Spring Training.

"The terms of the contract are similar to a rookie on the start, but the important thing is that I will be able to play for a team that I always missed," Park said.

Park debuted for the Dodgers at the age of 21 in 1994. At his best, in 2000, he had a 133 ERA+ and 217 strikeouts in 226 innings for Los Angeles. But he has been below average since 2002, and made it into only one major league game last season.

Update: According to public relations director Josh Rawitch, Park hasn't signed, but it's heading that direction. It would be for a minor league deal with an invite to camp, but it's not a done deal.

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According to David Pinto of Baseball Musings, the Dodgers still had great defense at shortstop last season, despite Rafael Furcal's bum ankle.

Comments (370)
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2007-11-08 10:44:56
1.   D4P
made it into only one major league game last season

...in which he gave up 7 earned runs in 4 innings, including 2 HRs. He did, however, have 4 Ks.

2007-11-08 10:46:06
2.   Wilbert Robinson
I wonder if this move was brought upon with the hope that Chan Ho Park coupled with Jeff Kent would form an indomitable alliance to end rookie hazing in baseball as we know it.
2007-11-08 10:46:11
3.   bhsportsguy
Anything to avoid the Kyle Lohses and Carlos Silvas of the pitching world, I am all for it.
2007-11-08 10:46:16
4.   Xeifrank
Did Park miss playing for the Dodgers, or all the good Korean restaraunts? Korean-BBQ... mmmmmmmmmm
vr, Xei
2007-11-08 10:48:33
5.   Bluebleeder87
Hopefully Chan Ho Park still has something left in the tank. When he was with the Dodgers the guy stayed in awesome shape. if I believed in reincarnation I would love coming back with Chan Ho Parks body, the guy was ripped when he played for the Dodgers.
2007-11-08 10:50:17
6.   Marty
4 Korean BBQ with unlimited kimchee. I'm in heaven
2007-11-08 10:50:42
7.   bhsportsguy
However, this move would seem to give the chances of Hendrickson sticking around more weight.
2007-11-08 10:51:02
8.   wireroom
So it looks like Vin finally gets his wish and it will be something "he see's in his lifetime," where all base coaches are required to wear batting helmets.
2007-11-08 10:51:48
9.   Wilbert Robinson
5 I hope that your reincarnated body doesn't end up on the Marshall report.
2007-11-08 10:51:56
10.   bhsportsguy
6 What's your favorite place?
2007-11-08 10:52:04
11.   D4P
Park has had an ERA+ over 100 in 5 of 14 MLB seasons, the last being 2001.
2007-11-08 10:53:28
12.   Jon Weisman
Thunder-stealing thread at Bronx Banter.
2007-11-08 10:53:33
13.   CajunDodger
11
Just for my review, 100 is league average right?
2007-11-08 10:53:52
14.   Marty
8 That's right. I heard the GMs all voted for first and third-base coaches to wear helmets.
2007-11-08 10:54:57
15.   D4P
Wow. Shaq is guaranteed $60 million over the next 3 seasons.

I knew the Lakers wouldn't get "equal value" by trading him, and that they would suffer in the immediate future following the trade, but I also knew they'd eventually be very glad they weren't paying him the maximum for not-so-maximum performance.

2007-11-08 10:57:20
16.   LogikReader
Jon that is an excellent pun you penned up there with the title.

Twice around the Park with Chan Ho... Fernando Tatis, Bases Loaded, same inning.

Anyone else catch that?

2007-11-08 10:58:20
17.   D4P
13
Yes, 100 is average.
2007-11-08 10:59:15
18.   Marty
10 Soot Bull Jeep in Koreatown. But I find myself going to one in Little Tokyo a lot because it's close. It's name appears to be just "Korean BBQ"
2007-11-08 11:02:58
19.   Disabled List
12 Susanna Hoffs was my contribution to the BB thread.

I heartily endorse your selection, though.

2007-11-08 11:03:37
20.   wireroom
14 Vin is right, those guys should wear a helmet. I would rather look funny then look dead.
2007-11-08 11:04:27
21.   bhsportsguy
18 We must have a pre-game meal there before the next DT game or any game.

I may not want to be in the same section if you have too much kimchee though.

2007-11-08 11:06:02
22.   bhsportsguy
12 Phoebe Cates.

Nice.

Explain to me how Winnie Cooper and Dodger Thoughts are connected.

2007-11-08 11:06:18
23.   Xeifrank
21. I may show up just for the food. :)
vr, Xei
2007-11-08 11:07:18
24.   Xeifrank
22. We had a Wonder Years Thoughts chat day last offseason. vr, Xei
2007-11-08 11:10:58
25.   Marty
21 That's ok, we'd smell so much of smoke, no one would notice the kimchee
2007-11-08 11:13:29
26.   Xeifrank
Glad to see that base coaches are now going to be required to wear the batting helmets. If base runners wear them, then the coaches should too. I wonder if it will ever get to the point where pitchers will be required to wear some kind of protective equipment on their heads too? Seems like we have alot of near misses and eventually a pitcher will get nailed on his noggon. I witnessed a youth (teenage) pitcher get hit on the head by a line drive during batting practice and die many years ago.
vr, Xei
2007-11-08 11:14:47
27.   wireroom
21 there is a DT Dodger game? I haven't been on this blog for that long, but that would be something to watch a Dodgers game with people as tortured by the Dodgers as myself.
2007-11-08 11:15:26
28.   jasonungar07
Good call on Phoebe Cates!! She was my first.

Life's the same I'm moving in stereo
Life's the same except for my shoes
Life's the same youre shakin like tremolo
Life's the same its all inside you

And I am so with you as well DL 19 as that pause and her look in the walk like an egyptian video got me everytime.

2007-11-08 11:15:46
29.   Bob Timmermann
12
The World Cup of Baseball thread is doomed! Doomed!
2007-11-08 11:17:18
30.   wireroom
26 that really is awful that you saw that happen. Over the years there have been some pretty horrible incidents where pitchers got hit in the bean. It is lucky that no one has been killed on the mound by a line drive.
2007-11-08 11:19:41
31.   Jon Weisman
16 - Believe it or not, it was unintentional.

550 in the last thread is worth a read, for those who were in on the Cabrera conversation.

2007-11-08 11:21:07
32.   ToyCannon
Keith Law on Miggy
"Miguel Cabrera
Cabrera's the big prize of the offseason, and the Marlins know it. They're looking for a bounty of major league-ready players mixed with some tools prospects like the haul they received for Josh Beckett two years ago this month. Whatever Cabrera's flaws, he's a plus hitter with 60-65 power (that is, well above average on the 20-80 scale) and excellent on-base ability. He's averaged 31½ homers over the past four years despite playing in a park that kills right-handed power.

On the downside, Cabrera is a terrible defensive player who belongs in left field, and his work ethic and off-field behavior are questionable, although new Yankees skipper Joe Girardi vouched for Cabrera's makeup the other day. Cabrera has two years to go until free agency, and will probably earn $26-30 million over those two years in arbitration unless he's signed to a long-term deal. If the acquiring team doesn't sign him, it'll be able to get two draft picks for him when he leaves, which probably isn't true for anyone else on this list. "

2007-11-08 11:23:12
33.   Jon Weisman
22 - It's complicated. Short version: I esteem both Winnie and Danica.
2007-11-08 11:24:32
34.   LogikReader
32

TC, you know... if we could somehow include Pierre in that trade, this might not be so bad.

The big difference between Arod and Cabrera is age. Cabrera is almost 10 years younger. So if you're gonna trade, it might as well be for a stud like Cabrera.

2007-11-08 11:25:46
35.   ToyCannon
31
To bad, I thought it was brilliant before your confession.
2007-11-08 11:26:43
36.   Jon Weisman
Fun:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/411

2007-11-08 11:27:54
37.   ToyCannon
Mike Nixon will be playing for ASU at linebacker against UCLA on Saturday. He was drafted 14 spots a head of Russel Martin in the 2002 draft and was supposed to be our catcher of the future. He retired in 2005 even though he reached AAA at the age of 21.
2007-11-08 11:30:07
38.   ToyCannon
34
Arod was also a slugging SS at age 24 not a 3rd baseman destined for the OF or 1st.
2007-11-08 11:31:56
39.   Marty
37 I've never heard that story. Why did he retire?
2007-11-08 11:32:28
40.   Jon Weisman
I e-mailed Josh Rawitch. According to him, Park hasn't signed, but it's heading that direction. It would be for a minor league deal with an invite to camp, but it's not a done deal.
2007-11-08 11:35:31
41.   Xeifrank
My AROD/MCAB pro/con post from SoSG the other day. Feel free to add. vr, Xei

AROD
Pros:
1) Best player in MLB
2) Don't need to trade any talent to get him.
3) Breaks Bonds record on your team.

Cons:
1) Too expensive.
2) Too many years.
3) In his late prime.

M.Cabrera
Pros:
1) Top 5 players in MLB
2) Fairly cheap for one more year.
3) Prime years ahead of him.
4) Won't be quite as expensive as AROD when he hits free agency.

Cons:
1) Must trade 3 young talented players.
2) conditioning concerns
3) will be expensive as a free agent or expensive if signed to an immediate long-term deal.

2007-11-08 11:35:40
42.   silverwidow
Only two new episodes of The Office left. :(
2007-11-08 11:36:02
43.   Jacob L
Soot Bull Jeep is awesome, but I haven't been there for a long time because, quite frankly, its dangerous for kids. Does anyone know of a Korean BBQ place that, like SBJ, uses real wood charcoal, but has better ventilation. There are other places I like (Corner Place at 9th and Westmoreland, fer instance), but they all use gas grills.
2007-11-08 11:36:24
44.   KG16
32 - I was thinking, the NL West hit the fewest home runs of any division in the NL last year (or at least averaged the fewest by teams, three teams hit 171 each, the Giants hit just a couple more than the Dodgers). So that would, in theory, mean more balls in play, right? Doesn't it, therefore, make sense for the Dodgers to have a good defense in the outfield?

With the unbalanced schedule and see each of those teams 15-20 times (at least that's what it feels like), I'm not sure the Dodgers can risk bad defense in the outfield next year. Well, I'm not sure they can risk bad defense anywhere next year, and if we are stuck with Pierre, then I think we've reached our limit on bad defensive outfielders... no matter what Caberra gives us on offense.

And to back that up, bad defense in the outfield means more runners getting on (at least in theory), which means more "pitcher's jams", which increases the likelihood that the Dodgers will have to go to the bullpen. That is a prospect I don't like until the 8th and 9th innings.

2007-11-08 11:40:17
45.   Raf
14 So will they wear helmets with or sans earflaps?

I'm hoping for the latter, meself...

2007-11-08 11:42:06
46.   Howard Fox
12 Joey Heatherton
2007-11-08 11:43:12
47.   Daniel Zappala
36 So in the 1966 World Series, the Orioles had 3 of the top 90 World Series pitching performances of all time against the Dodgers. Wow.
2007-11-08 11:44:03
48.   dzzrtRatt
31 What I like about TC's post there is his trade scenarios are doable. The Marlins would be getting excellent value. These are competitive offers the way he's structured them.

And Billingsley's off the table. He (and Martin, it goes without saying) would be my dealbreakers.

2007-11-08 11:44:41
49.   Jon Weisman
Mike Nixon story from 3/06

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/0327asufoot0327.html

2007-11-08 11:46:32
50.   Jon Weisman
DT, 9/18/05:

Mike Nixon, Vero Beach/Las Vegas/Jacksonville, 6-3, 210, 8/17/83: Was rushed from Vero Beach to Las Vegas as a domino effect from the Dodgers' Paul Bako injury, and his OPS tumbled from .751 to .579. Ended the year with a 3-for-20 performance in Jacksonville, his likely destination in 2006.

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2007-11-08 11:47:57
51.   Xeifrank
44. Here are the 2007 park factors for NL West stadiums (HR/3B). vr, Xei

Col: 1.218 / 1.513
Ari: 1.112 / 2.524
LAD: 1.052 / 0.583
SF: 0.808 / 1.364
SD: 0.685 / 1.042

The cavernous parks will be the ones with a high number of triples (lots of ground to cover and wierd angles). The one that sticks out is the triples at the park in Arizona, along with the way triples are supressed at Dodger Stadium.

2007-11-08 11:50:11
52.   Bob Timmermann
The "domino effect from the Paul Bako injury" was first proposed by George Kennan wasn't it?
2007-11-08 11:51:27
53.   Jon Weisman
52 - X!
2007-11-08 11:56:29
54.   ImprobableImpossible
I get a kick out of the fact that Jon called this a "palate-cleansing" thread. Then 31 posts into it, pointed us back to the previous course. I guess Chan Ho doesn't inspire the masses.
2007-11-08 12:02:16
55.   wireroom
54 His sweet karate jump kicks inspire me!
2007-11-08 12:03:51
56.   dzzrtRatt
Yeah, I think Chan Ho will make Scott Erickson look good by comparison. He's so far past his sell-by date. That's not kimchee you're smelling.

I don't see Joe giving the same deference that Tracy gave Erickson or Sele.

2007-11-08 12:04:37
57.   Bob Timmermann
"X" proposed the idea that the Dodgers need to contain expansionism by the Angels into their territory and this should be accomplished by aggressive spending and a permanent presence in Germany.
2007-11-08 12:05:49
58.   D4P
For Daniel:

The school voucher scheme in Utah failed. Here's what the "leading supporter of the voucher effort" had to say about people like Daniel who voted against it:

"They don't care enough about their kids. They care an awful lot about this system, this bureaucracy, but they don't care enough about their kids to think outside the box"

2007-11-08 12:10:07
59.   Jon Weisman
54 - By palate-cleansing, I really meant message-counter-reseting.
2007-11-08 12:11:02
60.   ToyCannon
27
The 2007 DT game

http://www.flickr.com/photos/91066300@N00/sets/72157600947040609/

The 2006 DT game

http://www.flickr.com/photos/91066300@N00/sets/72157600935039622/

We won both games.

2007-11-08 12:12:29
61.   Bluebleeder87
Vin is right, those guys should wear a helmet.

Helmets make you look uncool but your right I rather look dorky then dead.

2007-11-08 12:13:11
62.   Bob Timmermann
Page 60 of this pdf document is for Xeifrank:

http://tinyurl.com/2du2mk

Or people who are otherwise interested in such matters, but I think we are the only two.

It is tangentially baseball related.

2007-11-08 12:16:43
63.   regfairfield
61 That would be a good tagline for a PSA.
2007-11-08 12:18:02
64.   Bluebleeder87
60

I arrived late to this years DT gathering but ScareDuck/Rob McMullin got me on the group picture he took late in the game. It's cool though cause DT'rs are 2 & 0 (MOJO!) when we're all gathered at the same time.

2007-11-08 12:19:26
65.   Andrew Shimmin
Finely we know who was speaking Cantonese in the clubhouse, destroying the team Chemistry. Kim Ng/Wu!
2007-11-08 12:19:28
66.   wireroom
60 hey thanks for letting me have a look at all of your mugs. From the looks of it, you guys were maybe sitting in the infield reserve?
2007-11-08 12:20:40
67.   Linkmeister
57 But when are the Dodgers going to explode their own A-bomb? The Angels did that with the acquisition of Vlad.

Arms race!

2007-11-08 12:20:48
68.   dzzrtRatt
60 That 2007 game, besides being great fun, turned out to be an almost novelistic moment in the 2007 season. When we met with McCourt, the Dodgers had either the best or second-best record in the NL, maybe in the MLB. The young guys were starting to really get more playing time, but the old guys hadn't started slumping. And so there was Frank, happy as a clam, talking about how everyone was on the same page, feeling like, I've finally figured this thing out, as I knew I would, smart businessman that I am. The run of championships under my watch could start now!

Then the tide went out. Way way out.

2007-11-08 12:21:04
69.   Daniel Zappala
58 Even worse, the guy who put all the money behind the voucher campaign said, basically, that "the voters in Utah failed an IQ test".
2007-11-08 12:21:57
70.   Greg Brock
68 The stupid door should have told us everything.

CLACK!

2007-11-08 12:23:32
71.   D4P
69
Yeah, I almost included that part of the quote too.
2007-11-08 12:24:21
72.   Jon Weisman
68 - "an almost novelistic moment in the 2007 season"

So true.

2007-11-08 12:25:05
73.   Andrew Shimmin
Finely, indeed. Stupid spellcheck, letting me use a correctly spelled word that isn't the one I want.
2007-11-08 12:26:48
74.   Greg Brock
67 Curtis LeMay thinks we should just bomb the hell out of Anaheim.
2007-11-08 12:26:54
75.   bhsportsguy
70 Now you say something. :)
2007-11-08 12:27:22
76.   wireroom
68 how did you guys get to meet McCourt? It sounds like you had a great time.
2007-11-08 12:28:55
77.   bhsportsguy
72 Not that he would have answered it directly but I do think the one question I would ask now is why don't the Dodgers treat the draft as something they can take advantage of (money wise) as opposed to adhering to something that no one can really enforce.

And there has got to be a better way to phrase that question.

2007-11-08 12:31:10
78.   bhsportsguy
76 It was because we show him the respect he deserves here on DT.

How many rules did I just break.

Seriously, it was due to Jon's relationship with Josh R. (head Dodger PR guy), who does lurk here, and their respect for the site.

2007-11-08 12:31:19
79.   D4P
Non-spoiler episode summary for the season finale of "Tell Me You Love Me":

May gets devastating news, but decides not to cancel her therapy appointments. Jamie and Hugo reconnect, for better or for worse. Palek's blunt revelation at May's office shocks Carolyn. Having confronted the crossroads and challenges of their marriage for some time, Dave and Katie finally make a breakthrough.

1. I'm guessing May's news has to do with John. Maybe he died. Maybe he committed suicide because she rejected him. BTW: How long ago did their indiscretions supposedly take place?

2. From what I hear, the finale is great.

2007-11-08 12:35:01
80.   ToyCannon
76
Your just not rolling with any crowd.

As I missed the meeting, it was my understanding that everyone glad handed McCourt and somehow swallowed their tongues when compared to how they write with their quills. Being good guests that is how it should have been but I've often wondered how it would have gone if they had verbalized what they wanted to ask.

2007-11-08 12:35:27
81.   wireroom
78 That's cool. I thought you were going to say McCourt was walking around with a beer or something talking to fans. That would have been a great coincidence.
2007-11-08 12:36:11
82.   bigcpa
79 How is it that I've seen every episode and I don't know the names of any characters? I think because I hate the show.
2007-11-08 12:36:43
83.   bhsportsguy
80 Part of it was due to the setting. Also, for me, since I felt I was there only because of Jon, I, for one, wasn't going to do anything to upset the cart so to speak.
2007-11-08 12:37:54
84.   Eric Stephen
68 The highlight for me (besides suggesting to Josh Rawitch the "Juan For Five" nickname) was Suffering Bruin high-fiving every single DT member, somehow even those not in attendance, after Kemp's HR.

The Dodgers were indeed in 1st place on that day, and ended the day with the best record in the NL at 55-43, a half game ahead of both the Brewers and Mets.

The lineup featured Loney, Kemp, Martin, Ethier, and Betemit. And we rejoiced.

And bhsportsguy's cookies were great too.

2007-11-08 12:38:39
85.   dzzrtRatt
82 Certainly you can't have missed that the Satan-y looking guy is named "Palek."

Otherwise, you're right.

However, I no longer "hate" the show. I hate myself for watching it. The show's improved, but I haven't.

2007-11-08 12:38:46
86.   D4P
82
Why do you watch it if you hate it?
2007-11-08 12:39:18
87.   bhsportsguy
84 Thanks, oh and how was your first hockey game, I'm assuming you had no rooting interest.

80 For Jon's take of the day go to,

http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/740691.html

2007-11-08 12:40:39
88.   Marty
Nice LeMay reference. I remember reading his diatribes in the 70's when I worked at a small 10000 watt Glendale newspaper.
2007-11-08 12:40:56
89.   Eric Stephen
80 Part of it was out of respect to Jon (as said in 83 ), and part of it was that I think only 5 questions got asked to McCourt yet he had 10-minute answers for each.

To McCourt's credit, he did seem sincere in person even though it was probably just stock material.

2007-11-08 12:41:38
90.   gvette
Chan Ho Park?

Why?

Is he bringing Ismael Valdez and Antonio Osuna with him to Spring Training?

2007-11-08 12:41:54
91.   dzzrtRatt
83 As I recall, I asked him a question he didn't seem to like. But I can't remember exactly what it was. Something like, "Where do you think you're still learning?" Anyway, he scowled at me.

I think the group showed due deference to McCourt mostly because they wanted to make Josh look good. Josh really extended himself and was the mensch of all mensches.

2007-11-08 12:42:07
92.   Terry A
81 - Interestingly, McCourt was seen that day carrying a small statue of the fans.
2007-11-08 12:42:31
93.   Marty
I'm still trying to remember who I was sitting next to.
2007-11-08 12:42:54
94.   Jon Weisman
83 et al - In part, I wanted all the others to get their chance to speak to McCourt before I stepped in. In part, there was a feeling that we shouldn't go on the attack, given that they didn't have to invite us there to begin with. In part, things were looking good for the team at that time. But most of all, McCourt talks a lot without stopping and tended to make every question, easy or hard, what he wanted it to be.

I do wish we had gotten more pointed questions across.

2007-11-08 12:43:51
95.   TheBigGrabowski
80 I also think everyone was confused as to what exactly McCourt was going to do. When he came in I wasn't sure if he had some statement or something, or if he was just going to talk.

It also seemed like Josh got most of the Juan Pierre talk.

2007-11-08 12:44:28
96.   ToyCannon
My wife wouldn't let me go to the pre-meeting, she was afraid I'd embarrass the group and I'd lose the right to post here.
She has no idea I embarrass myself daily here.

Speaking of that, on the BB thread this was my response:
What can I say. It was the 1st "adult" TV show I ever saw and at the age of 7 I was bewitched by Elizabeth Montgomery while eating ice cream after having my tonsils removed.

2007-11-08 12:45:59
97.   Bob Timmermann
ESPN.com's editors were asleep at the switch with this. They left their editing mark inside an article that they posted online:

"Segui, who acknowledges he has used a synthetic form of HGH under a doctor's supervision since being diagnosed with a growth hormone deficiency in 2003 [SHOULD BE 2001], says he thought nothing of the exchange until a few months later, when Grimsley was busted and his affidavit sped through baseball circles faster than a Josh Beckett heater."

2007-11-08 12:46:38
98.   regfairfield
90 Because we lost William Juarez and Spike Lundberg to free agency. Vegas needs a back end of the rotation too.
2007-11-08 12:47:04
99.   Eric Stephen
87 The NHL experience was cool (get it!), and you're right, I had no rooting interest. Even though the Ducks lost 5-0 to the Stars, it was still an entertaining game.

I found myself rooting for the Anaheim forward Parros, or as we were calling him, "The 'Stache". That made even a blowout entertaining.

Also, I had no idea that essentially cheerleaders come out every 5 game minutes or so (every timeout) to clean the ice. That was a nice surprise! :)

The only downside was not getting home until 11:30. NHL is definitely better in person though.

2007-11-08 12:47:15
100.   regfairfield
Losing Juarez also confirms that all we got for Shawn Green was Mark Hendrickson.
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2007-11-08 12:48:34
101.   D4P
Question:

Why is it "OK" to use steroids/HGH/etc. to address physical problems when you're under doctor's order, but not otherwise? Don't you get an "unfair advantage" under either scenario? Why is it less unfair if a doctor prescribed the drugs?