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Give Dodgertown a Proper Farewell
2007-11-10 07:55
by Jon Weisman

Let's weigh the importance of the Dodgers playing exhibition games in China next season against the importance of them playing a full schedule of exhibition games in their 60th and final season in Vero Beach, giving longtime and first-time visitors the biggest chance possible to see them there. No brainer, right? China can wait.

Bill Shaikin has more about the Dodgers' simmering controversy with their Vero Beach partners at the Times.

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Bernie Williams? Nice guy, but help me Rhonda, only as a bench player, please - and probably not even worth the dough for that.

In this article appearing at ESPN.com, Williams seems to agree.

"I don't think I have any plans to do something like that," Williams said.

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Dodger Thoughts commenter CanuckDodger offered this take on the team's preparations for the Rule 5 draft (to help explain why Chin-hui Tsao was ejected from the 40-man roster):

We need all of the roster spots that have been cleared for a good reason: we need to protect six minor leaguers from the Rule 5 draft. People have already mentioned (James) McDonald, (Justin) Orenduff and (Xavier) Paul as no-brainers. Somebody mentioned Cory Wade as a possible, but I think he is definitely in. The other two guys are Ramon Troncoso and Wesley Wright. If Wade, Troncoso and Wright are not protected, I guarantee they will be lost in the Rule 5 draft, and they are the kinds of arms that a non-competitive club would have no problem hiding on the 25-man roster, doing bullpen mop-up work if nothing else.

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2007-11-10 08:11:21
1.   Gagne55
I don't really see a role for Bernie. Young is out of options, so he has a roster spot fo sho'. At most, he'd be a fifth outfielder.
2007-11-10 08:21:07
2.   Jon Weisman
1 - Oh, I presume Bernie would primarily be a pinch-hitter all the way, and maybe play even less in the field than Olmedo Saenz.
2007-11-10 08:23:56
3.   blue22
I think Bernie's name coming up was inevitable. Joe is really loyal to him, but you wonder if it's just a courtesy mention. He can't play CF anymore, which is where his value would lie.

And just in case anyone is wondering about other Joe Faves...Scott Brosius is currently the head coach at Linfield College. Luis Sojo is a manager in the Yankees system. Miguel Cairo is still active, however, playing last year for StL.

2007-11-10 08:25:50
4.   D4P
Two words: Aaron Boone
2007-11-10 08:26:40
5.   Jon Weisman
3 - Another article, from AP, made Williams seem like he wasn't interested.
2007-11-10 08:30:08
6.   blue22
5 - On Friday, Bernie Williams dismissed floating rumors that he would consider coming out of retirement to play for Torre in Los Angeles.

"I've been listening to all the things that have been said, and all the news and everything," Williams said. "I've been kind of an outsider looking into the whole situation. It's kind of bizarre to look at it from outside. But no, I don't think I have any plans to do anything like that at this point."

http://tinyurl.com/377xhn

2007-11-10 08:32:08
7.   Bluebleeder87
The ugly side of business rears its ugly head.
2007-11-10 08:35:45
8.   Bluebleeder87
I'd definitely pick D. Young over Bernie Williams another intriguing thing is that Repko will be back for '08 so that is another interesting side to look for in SP '08.
2007-11-10 08:38:31
9.   blue22
Paraphrasing:

Joe: "You know who would really help this team: Bernie Williams."

Everyone else in the entire world, including Bernie himself: "Wait, huh?"

2007-11-10 08:43:22
10.   LAT
In addition to the effect it will have on the final season in Vero, I don't want the Dodgers to play in China for fatigue reasons. The MLB season is long and grueling. Flying half way around the world in March may take a toll in Aug. There was a lot of talk in Clipper-ville about the effect the pre-season games in Europe had on their disappointing 2006 season.
2007-11-10 08:43:56
11.   blue22
8 - It would be nice to have someone that could play CF. Torre played Matsui, among others in CF recently. Maybe he's more open to giving Kemp or Ethier more time there.

I think Repko might be getting the Jayson Werth treatment, in that they might just non-tender him. I honestly don't know if that's a decision they need to make on him just yet, given his service time.

2007-11-10 08:50:33
12.   gpellamjr
11 It would have been nice if they could have non-tendered him last year and held on to Jayson Werth.
2007-11-10 09:29:36
13.   sweepstakes
12 would much prefer Repko or Werth to JP.
2007-11-10 09:47:51
14.   Andrew Shimmin
Looks like Wade spells Corey with an E. I still don't see Troncoso as preferable to Hammes. Thhough Troncoso is a pretty good name.
2007-11-10 09:52:43
15.   Bluebleeder87
R.I.P. Norman Mailer [ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21721695/?gt1=10547 ]
2007-11-10 09:52:47
16.   underdog
Speaking of Delwyn Young, it was fun to read in the Griddle about another Dodger prospect leading the US team to victory in the World Cup. I wonder if the Dodgers' PTB are paying attention.

(From Herald Tribune) "Dodgers' Minor Leaguer Delwyn Young hit a three-run homer in the first inning to lead the U.S. to a 5-1 victory over Japan on Saturday in a Group A clash in the 37th Baseball World Cup in Taiwan."

2007-11-10 09:53:02
17.   GoBears
Flying half way around the world in March may take a toll in Aug.
recover quic
Really? I mean, sure, it's a long trip, and they'll be jet-lagged for a couple days, but these are kids, not old farts like us (well, 'cept for Kent). They'll recover quickly.

And they're not rowing a Viking ship over there - they'll be traveling in style. As long they get a couple days off at some point, they'll be fine. I can't imagine any lingering effects.

2007-11-10 09:54:24
18.   GoBears
Woah, weird editing snafu in 17. I need more coffee.
2007-11-10 10:02:24
19.   Bluebleeder87
17

I don't know Go Bears I kind of agree with LAT big time.

2007-11-10 10:06:13
20.   GoBears
Well, if what LAT meant was that it might cost them a game or two early due to fatigue, which would then come back to haunt them at the end of the year, I'll buy that as a possibility. I just meant that you can't store up rest or lack of rest for that long. The body self-regulates much more quickly than that.
2007-11-10 10:16:39
21.   MC Safety
Oh great. Please reassure me that Delwyn is not going out like Victorino and Ross.

Also I gave this a shot twice yesterday to no avail. not sure if I am being given the cold shoulder or what but can anyone shed any light on Jon Meloan possibly starting for us? An answer from say Nate Purcell or any of the other prospect guys would be great.

2007-11-10 10:23:57
22.   Andrew Shimmin
It's my understanding that Meloan's delivery (sometimes called "maximum effort") is not well suited to starting. Given the Dodgers already have too many starters, I'd be surprised if he were switched. Broxton didn't get switched, even though that seemed like more practicable than Meloan.
2007-11-10 10:30:39
23.   MC Safety
Thanks Andrew but too many starters? This is based on thinking Schmidt and Loaiza are toast, which is not unfair at all. After Kuo who is an injury risk and my boy McDonald possibly who is close to being ML ready?
2007-11-10 10:31:25
24.   Jon Weisman
Delwyn's not in danger of being cut, I don't think.
2007-11-10 10:37:52
25.   Benaiah
Interesting Free Agents in 2009
*Denotes team option in 2009
Mark Texeira
Chipper Jones
Carl Crawford
Adam Dunn
Vladimir Guerrero
Manny Ramirez*
Rich Harden*
Jake Peavy
C.C. Sabathia
Johan Santana
Ben Sheets

Dodgers coming off the payroll in 2009
Furcal, Nomar, Lowe, Penny*, Kent

2007-11-10 10:40:36
26.   Andrew Shimmin
Zach Hammes! Or Houlton and Stults. Plus Lohse, when Colletti signs him. I don't think Loaiza is toast; I don't think he's very good, but he's probably not finished. And I expect Schmidt to come back to something like a serviceable starter. Plus Hendrickson, whom I don't expect to be going anywhere. And Wolf who could well be back.
2007-11-10 10:40:56
27.   Benaiah
25 - Actually, the Padres have an option on Peavy too.
2007-11-10 10:42:00
28.   Andrew Shimmin
Orenduff, too.
2007-11-10 10:45:35
29.   Ken Arneson
As far as the "China can wait" comment goes, I think the whole point of going to China in 2008 is to take advantage of the opportunity for pre-Olympic hype. If you're going to do China at all, 2008 is the year to go.

That said, I don't know any reason the Dodgers need to go instead of some other team.

2007-11-10 10:46:16
30.   Benaiah
25 - Actually, the Padres have an option on Peavy too.
2007-11-10 10:49:03
31.   Benaiah
25 - Actually, the Padres have an option on Peavy too.
2007-11-10 10:52:15
32.   D4P
Does anyone know where I can find out whether the Padres have an option on Peavy...?
2007-11-10 10:52:58
33.   Benaiah
Oops sorry about that. Sometimes when you refresh it reposts. Harden's option for 7 million and Peavy's for 8 will almost certainly be picked up (and if they aren't then it would mean they aren't worth signing anyway). Still, I think the Dodgers could have a rotation of Billingsley, Penny, Kershaw/McDonald, Schmidt and Santana/Sabathia/Sheets in 2009. The best way to win is to not make big moves in 2008.
2007-11-10 10:55:49
34.   Bob Timmermann
29
Why go to China in 2008? The future, Mr. Arneson. The future.
2007-11-10 10:56:21
35.   Andrew Shimmin
29- It probably seemed like a better idea when Kuo, and Tsao were on the roster. But Hu's still in the mix. Are the Yankees going?
2007-11-10 11:05:16
36.   Bob Timmermann
35
The Yankees are already in China in essence. They have agreements to develop players in China in place. They've signed two players from China.
2007-11-10 11:05:24
37.   silverwidow
32 http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/san-diego-padres.html

Peavy's 2009 option is for $8M (with an escalator clause that can bring it up to $11M.

2007-11-10 11:07:03
38.   Bob Timmermann
35
And I think Andrew knows that Kuo and Tsao are not from China.

Eventually we will find out that Andrew's real name is Owen Lattimore.

2007-11-10 11:09:55
39.   D4P
38
Saito's from China, isn't he?
2007-11-10 11:16:16
40.   Marty
China thinks Tsao and Kuo are from China.
2007-11-10 11:17:21
41.   Marty
Saito is Japanese.
2007-11-10 11:17:28
42.   Andrew Shimmin
38- They probably don't think they are (I've never heard them address it, specifically). But I don't think there's a shortage of people in Beijing who think Tsao and Kuo are from China. And those people are the target audience, presumably.
2007-11-10 11:18:19
43.   Bluebleeder87
34

John Huston spooks me to this day!

2007-11-10 11:18:56
44.   natepurcell
China is the new frontier for MLB. They just opened 5 youth academies this past quarter there. Dodgers are probably doing this to appease Selig and get on his good side.
2007-11-10 11:19:47
45.   Louis in SF
To me the LAT article about Vero Beach is another example of the heavy hand of the McCourts. You want to leave Vero with class-barely playing ten games and then going off to China and coming back to AZ seems to be a long spring and would impact people including myself who want to see Vero Beach before the Dodgers leave.

Have the Padres committed to China yet?

2007-11-10 11:19:57
46.   Marty
Selig had a letter in today's Times supporting Frank.
2007-11-10 11:26:04
47.   dzzrtRatt
44 So does that mean we get to pay the freight for next year's draft choices, instead of having to stop at the artificial "slot" bonus rate?

I thought we did that to appease Bud Selig.

2007-11-10 11:27:13
48.   Bluebleeder87
22

Meloan's fastball would take a significant hit if he would become a starter (I'm thinking 88-90MPH) his fastball is also pretty straight so I think the coaches who switched him to a reliever did him a favor. I'd be more than happy if he proves us all wrong but as it stands I like him as a reliever plenty more.

2007-11-10 11:27:56
49.   natepurcell
47

We do a lot of things to appease Selig. Maybe the culmination is that Selig won't get pissed when we give Arod 250mil dollars.

2007-11-10 11:30:15
50.   CajunDodger
25
Doing my quick math, it looks as if the Dodgers have about $40 million coming off of the payroll after this season. If we do not trade any of the good young 'uns this offseason, that will mean that Ethier, Bills, Broxton, and Martin will be eligible for arbitration for the first time (I believe).

Assuming some sort of long term deal (especially for Martin) I will subtract about $12 million from that total. That is some serious dough coming off at the right time with all of those guys except Lowe having ready replacements waiting in the wings.

Our fiscal situation looks good enough to go after ARod this year or wait and get a world beater rotation next year.

I wish I could be a fly on the wall during the Ng/White/Watson/Colletti meetings to see what they think...

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2007-11-10 11:32:35
51.   natepurcell
An answer from say Nate Purcell or any of the other prospect guys would be great.

I actually have seen Meloan quite a bit. He went to my college and I use to watch his starts during his junior year.

When he starts or pitches for a long length, his stuff diminishes a bit and his fb doesn't have the same velocity and his breaking pitches do not have the same bite. I also think the recoil action in his delivery will give his elbow significant problems if he logs a lot of innings.

I mean, he could definitely start. He has grown up starting and has done it to start his professional career. But to maximize his stuff, he is better off going in 1-2 inning stints.

2007-11-10 11:35:12
52.   Bob Timmermann
41
Marty, did you know that Gus's Bar-B-Q, home of South Pasadena's worst food is now closed for remodeling and will reopen under new management?
2007-11-10 11:36:55
53.   dzzrtRatt
Selig's letter gives McCourt credit for increasing the population of Southern California:

On Nov. 6, it was written that my office was "concerned about the McCourts' scorecard." In just four years of Frank and Jamie McCourt's stewardship, the Dodgers have increased their fan base by more than 600,000, have invested nearly $120 million into renovating Dodger Stadium, donated millions of dollars to the community and Major League Baseball initiatives such as the Compton Youth Academy and the Jackie Robinson Scholarship Foundation, and invested heavily in improving their minor league system.

If he wanted to say "increased attendance," why didn't he?

2007-11-10 11:40:33
54.   dzzrtRatt
51 Given Meloan's skills, why aren't we considering throwing either him or Broxton into the mix for Florida instead of Kershaw? They seem to be redundant.

P.S. I wonder if middle relief is the plan for Chan Ho? Does he have that kind of ability?

2007-11-10 11:47:26
55.   natepurcell
54

Definitely, but I would rather toss in Meloan if we had to decide between the two.

2007-11-10 11:48:26
56.   LAT
Bears, I'm just saying that under the best circumstances the MLB season is a grind. Throw in a trip to China in the preseason and it becomes longer. The Clippers found this out after playing preseason games in Moscow last year. They started the regular season slowly and never recoverd. Now this may have more to do with the Clippers being the Clippers but the trip to Moscow didn't help. MLB should be sending the D'Rays and Royals. That way a trip to China won't make a diffrence.
2007-11-10 11:49:41
57.   Marty
52 Hopefully, only the sign will remain.
2007-11-10 11:51:47
58.   silverwidow
50 Broxton is definitely arb eligible after next season. Martin & Ethier could also be as Super Two's.

Bills has to wait until after 2009.

2007-11-10 11:57:20
59.   LAT
Of course Bud's letter fails to respond to the issue raised by the LAT article, that the McCourt's 3 GMs and 3 Managers in 4 years is concerning.
2007-11-10 11:59:34
60.   old dodger fan
There needs to be at least a week between the day the Dodgers return from China until the 1st regular season game. If they get that they should be fine.
2007-11-10 12:01:27
61.   the2pin
The Dodgers need two big bats. Say it with me. The Dodgers need two big bats.
2007-11-10 12:02:40
62.   underdog
Good thing the Dodgers don't have any Tibetan players.
2007-11-10 12:07:17
63.   regfairfield
61 Where would said big bats go?
2007-11-10 12:09:38
64.   old dodger fan
61 The Dodgers need to keep the big bats they have. 2 more would be good but I will be happy if just keep what we have.

62 If they can play let's sign em.

2007-11-10 12:11:11
65.   Icaros
61

Say it with me. Matt Kemp and James Loney.

2007-11-10 12:14:34
66.   Sub4Era
2008 - Sign ARod... stand pat(unless Piazza for cheap)
Young splits time with slappy

2009 - Abreu in for Kent
Kershaw in for Lowe
Hu in for Furcal
Extend Penny
Have a field day on legit FA's

It just seems so much more efficient than giving up anything for Cabrera. I know hes amazing and 8 years younger but I don't feel ARods drop off being too dramatic over the next 5 years baring injuries considering his work-ethic

2007-11-10 12:14:35
67.   Benaiah
63 - The Dodgers need to get rid of one or two very little bats and just have a solid 1-8. The Dodgers scored nearly 100 more runs in 06 because they didn't have black holes at SS, CF, 3B/1B (where ever Nomar was playing) or to put it another way, in the 1,2 and 3 spots in the lineup.
2007-11-10 12:17:32
68.   Benaiah
66 - The Dodgers can just pick up Penny's option in 09, rather than extending him. I agree though. Give Laroche a real shot at 3B this year and if you aren't happy then make a run at a 2-3 year contract with Chipper Jones. The money could be there to sign a true ace to compliment a pretty solid staff already.
2007-11-10 12:17:47
69.   the2pin
Loney? No. Loney projects to hit for a high average with 20-25 power. Which is fine, but certainly not spectacular, for a 1B. On the other hand, given the putrid power the Dodgers displayed this season -- team high 20 HRs? -- Loney has some potential.

Kemp is exciting, I agree, but the Dodgers still need power this offseason.

2007-11-10 12:20:21
70.   the2pin
Additionally, though I love trade speculation as much as the next guy, ace pitchers and young stars almost never go on the market.

If we need to trade a fourth outfielder on a good team (that's you, Andre Ethier) to get star-quality talent, it needs to be done.

2007-11-10 12:36:16
71.   natepurcell
70

how do you figure to trade a fourth outfielder on a good team to get star quality talent?

2007-11-10 12:37:17
72.   rockmrete
Ethier alone is not getting you Star talent. Who else do you have in mind?
2007-11-10 12:38:48
73.   Sub4Era
70 I'm assuming the "ace pitchers and young stars" you are talking about are Willis and Cabrera? The problem with trying to go for them now is that it severely hampers our chances to make a splash in a far more interesting FA market next season because of the players we would lose in the mix. The LaRoche, Kershaw, Kemp type contracts are the ones allowing the financial freedom to go after guys like A-Rod. Besides, the only "big bats" available are both playing 3rd base...
2007-11-10 12:41:17
74.   Gagne55
Ethier is not a fourth outfielder. He's more of a 3.5
2007-11-10 12:41:40
75.   rockmrete
ARod at third, and LaRoache in Left sounds good to me, Preferably with Kemp in CF, and Ethier in Right
2007-11-10 12:44:18
76.   Curtis Lowe
I haven't posted for awhile but have followed a good chunk of the past 2 months of dodger discussion during daily downtimes with my cell.

I am in the sign A-rod camp, I would rather the dodgers trade an obscene amount of money for a top tier player than and obscene amount of talent.

If they do trade for MC I wouldn't give up more than LaRoche,Ethier and MacDonald with maybe some cash incentives or a throw in second/third rate prospect.

2007-11-10 12:44:56
77.   rockmrete
Besides ARod, my wish is another starter. I don't want to pin next year's hopes on the health of Schmidt, Loiza, Kguo, and Wolf
2007-11-10 12:48:56
78.   rockmrete
76
I aggree with that offer, I don't know that Florida will bite, but I would prefer to keep our talent and see what it can do. And save our bullets for 2009's FA.
2007-11-10 12:50:22
79.   Lexinthedena
It's not fair that Ethier has ben christened a 4th outfielder...

I can see him with an OB% of 340, hitting between 15 and 20 hr's and driving a fair amount of runs...he is not a player who you build around, but he is not a bench player...

2007-11-10 12:53:32
80.   DavidS
with Lowell able to negotiate with other teams starting this week and no deal in Boston where does Lowell fit with Cabrera and ARod in coming to LA to play for Torre (think they have some good history)? Something like ARod 40%, Cabrera 25%, Lowell 25%, Laroche is starting 3baseman 10%.
2007-11-10 12:55:57
81.   Lexinthedena
I really hope that Lowell is not a Dodger next year.....
2007-11-10 12:58:22
82.   adamclyde
ok, folks. This thread reminds me that I need some advice. I'm heading down to Vero Beach this year (one of the many who will make their first and only trip). I really don't know the spring training drill too well. Aside from making sure I see a few home games, are there any other mandatory things to make the trip complete?

And, are the games usually day games?

2007-11-10 12:59:18
83.   rockmrete
I think Lowell is a good example of someone like Nomar, and Kent(09 version) that is going to be overpaid on the downside of their career for performances past
2007-11-10 13:10:46
84.   natepurcell
Looking at the roster crunch, Nomar is the bigger elephant in the room than Pierre. He is due 8.5 mil next year and can't hit anymore. Yet, he will probably still get his at bats somehow.
2007-11-10 13:11:18
85.   Icaros
69

Loney has a career OPS of .915. 05 and 06 combined give him a full season of plate appearances. .900 OPS is a big bat, regardless of how many HRs were hit in the process.

2007-11-10 13:15:14
86.   LAT
I would rather have Arod than Cabrara. Don't have to give up talent and Arod will make you back some of that money when he closes in on the HR record. Plus it would be fun to have a Dodger own the most important record in sports.
2007-11-10 13:18:48
87.   Icaros
86

Plus A-Rod isn't on the Chris Farley diet.

2007-11-10 13:19:46
88.   LAT
84. I'm probably deluding myself, but I am hoping that Nomar is so disappointed by last season he will change his plate dicipline and take a few more walks and singles. He has to recognize he is not the hitter he was.
2007-11-10 13:21:30
89.   63Dodger
If McCourt wants to keep referring to Dodger history, he better start being a more responsible keeper of the flame. Exiting Vero Beach with class instead of crass is a must.
2007-11-10 13:21:58
90.   the2pin
73 wrote: "problem with trying to go for them now is that it severely hampers our chances to make a splash in a far more interesting FA market next season because of the players we would lose in the mix"

Who do you think is realistically going to be available? Young all-star talent almost always get resigned because GMs cannot let that talent walk and expect to keep their jobs.

This is why I advocate making a run at A-Rod, Cabrera, Johan, et al. this offseason.

79 As far as I am concerned you have defined a fourth outfielder: a guy capable of hitting 16 HR with an OB% of 340.

Look, I do not want to trade the kids. However, why keep mediocre young talent? Keep Kemp, yes, because he has massive upside. Does Ethier? Really?

85 I could quibble about whether 400 OPS is really a big bat, but suffice to say I basically agree with you that Loney is a quality player (and a guy with "upside").

However, how many players in the Dodger lineup strike fear in an opposing pitcher? How many players would you want to pitch around with runners on base?

SOLUTION: Sign A-Rod, trade for Jason Bay. Bay is coming off a down year but is still relatively young and would not require as much premium talent (read: Andre Ethier, not Matt Kemp).

2007-11-10 13:23:46
91.   LAT
As I have said before, I am most concerned about Kent this season. Given his age he is overdue to drop off. I fear he will be the 2008 Nomar and no one is tell the emperor of second base that he has no clothes. I hope I am wrong.
2007-11-10 13:26:15
92.   Curtis Lowe
87 - Speedballs and Hookers?

I'm hoping that Nomar takes one for the team and waives his no trade clause if the Dodgers sign A-rod. I also support the idea of giving LaRoche a try at 2nd and left.

If Ned insists on trading for MC than I hope he tells the Marlins either Kerhsaw and Abreu or LaRoche and Macdonald.

2007-11-10 13:39:03
93.   Bluebleeder87
78

Good point RockMrete but NedCo doesn't work that way.

2007-11-10 13:44:14
94.   gpellamjr
92 I can't imagine that Ned would prefer to trade for Cabrera when Arod is available through free agency. Doesn't all the Cabrera talk seem like a ploy to drive down Arod's value?
2007-11-10 13:48:16
95.   gpellamjr
90 Clearly a "400 OPS" is not much of a bat. But if you mean 900, as I think you do, and you are implying that that does not equal a "big bat", then how many players in MLB have a big bat?

I think a lot of us are underrating the talent we have. Why assume that Ethier will OBP .340, when he's OBPed better than that each of his first two years in the majors? Why assume that Loney is not a power bat, when he's shown in the majors that he has power, and he's OPSed over .900 in a season's worth of PAs?

2007-11-10 13:49:56
96.   gpellamjr
Ugh...

http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php

2007-11-10 13:52:01
97.   Bluebleeder87
90

Jason Bay is more of a meh (so-so slugger) than an awesome slugger. ARONS!

2007-11-10 13:53:50
98.   Lexinthedena
I want A-Rod, Pierre dealt out of town, and an outfield of Ethier, Kemp, and Young...
2007-11-10 13:54:38
99.   Lexinthedena
By the way, Delwyin Young is going to be a spectacular hitter....Manny minus 20 hr's.....
2007-11-10 14:04:42
100.   natepurcell
Which of these pitchers would do you like the most in return for Andy Laroche...

Matt Garza
Ian Snell
Tom Gorzelanny
Ian Kennedy
And