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$7,000,000 Esteban Loaiza
*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
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$500,000 Russell Martin
*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
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$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
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*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
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$487,500 Jason Repko
$135,225 Rudy Seanez
$100,000 Mike Lieberthal
$50,000 Ramon Martinez
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The 38-Man Roster
2007-11-20 17:04
by Jon Weisman

The Dodgers announced today that they added Xavier Paul, Lucas May, James McDonald, Ramon Troncoso, Justin Orenduff, Mario Alvarez and Cory Wade to the 40-man roster in advance of the Rule 5 draft. The team outrighted Mike Megrew and kept two roster spots open.

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2007-11-20 17:07:42
1.   Jim Hitchcock
Hi! I'd like to buy a Kindle, please?
2007-11-20 17:08:43
2.   silverwidow
Mario Alvarez? Never heard of him. Can someone shed some light?
2007-11-20 17:09:02
3.   underdog
Mario Alvarez?
Hm.

So who will the other two be, I wonder...

2007-11-20 17:10:03
4.   natepurcell
Megrew really blew last year.
2007-11-20 17:10:05
5.   silverwidow
No Wesley Wright? I thought he was going on.
2007-11-20 17:11:08
6.   Andrew Shimmin
Finally a way to marry monochrome LCD displays with America's greatest shame (its wireless networks)! And it gives you a new way to not check your email. For only four hundred dollars.
2007-11-20 17:12:23
7.   Jon Weisman
http://insidethedodgers.mlblogs.com/my_weblog/2007/11/roses_and_roste.html

Links to the player pages at Inside the Dodgers.

2007-11-20 17:12:31
8.   Andrew Shimmin
2- Doesn't look like much.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/A/Mario-Alvarez.shtml

2007-11-20 17:16:03
9.   Robert Daeley
Also from that story:

"That's about all the news for today and I don't expect much more over the holiday, so this could be the last post for a few days."

2007-11-20 17:20:16
10.   Andrew Shimmin
Alvarez did suffer a .364 BABIP, last year. .365 the year before. .353 the year before that. Maybe he's just bad at not giving up hits.
2007-11-20 17:25:55
11.   KG16
anyone know if there is a linkafication type add on for Safari?

Oh, and I've been out of touch the last couple of days, what happened with Nate and the Dancer?

2007-11-20 17:29:46
12.   Bluebleeder87
from Ken Rosenthal (MSN.COM/FOXSPORTS) >>>The Phillies were willing to give Lowell a 4-year, $50 million offer, according to major-league sources, with the idea of giving him an East Coast alternative to the Dodgers, who were believed to be offering a contract in the same range.

I don't know but I got angry reading that tid bit just now. I seriously don't wanna think NedCo is that clueless, when I here the guy talk it's like he totally knows what he's doing but then I read stuff like that (especially cause he DID SIGN PIERRE!!) & I just don't know. The guy can talk no question about it but he sure can't walk the walk, I hope I'm wrong & I hope I'm just a little angry today & that it's clogging up my thinking somehow

2007-11-20 17:40:46
13.   willhite
Are we to believe that if Lowell had taken this so called offer from Ned, that he wouldn't have gone after M Cab? He can't possibly have been going after both of them, so I'm thinking at least one of those rumors is not based in fact.

Do you make the offer to Lowell and if he accepts tell him, "You'll have to wait until I see if I can get Cabrera"?

2007-11-20 17:47:34
14.   Izzy
I wonder if we couldn't get away with one key prospect, LaRoche and and 5 or 10 million dollars? Heck they're poor, maybe they'll go for it.

LaRoche's On Base bump is incredible though, and I do wonder if we might not regret losing him the most, in the end. Sometimes it bothers me he hasn't hit for a lick when he has had the chance. We probably shouldn't even be looking for a third baseman, really.

2007-11-20 17:50:26
15.   natepurcell
14

On the surface that seems like a pretty good idea...to just try and buy Cabrera. I wonder if that has been discussed....kinda like a posting fee.

2007-11-20 17:50:32
16.   D4P
We probably shouldn't even be looking for a third baseman, really

Exactamundo.

2007-11-20 17:52:51
17.   thinkblue0
I would love to be a fly on the wall of Ned's office and see exactly why he doesn't seem to like Laroche.

While all these are rumors, let's face it, he doesn't want Laroche at 3B next year...

2007-11-20 17:53:29
18.   underdog
Blue, it's Ken Rosenthal we're talking about, so don't worry so much about it. We gnashed our teeth about the rumors about Lowell here already and have no idea what was really discussed, or what the Dodger's interest really was. I'd let it die.
2007-11-20 17:53:53
19.   willhite
15 - You could try buying him for a posting fee but the number would be a lot higher than 5-10 mil. Try something in the neighborhood of Dice-K's number.
2007-11-20 17:56:26
20.   thinkblue0
18-

like I said, I know they're all just rumors.

But the fact that we've been rumored for Cabrera, Lowell, Crede etc leads me to believe that the Dodgers are definitely looking for a third baseman....

2007-11-20 17:56:27
21.   underdog
I think Cabrera or ARod would be hard to argue against as premiere third baseman in the league. After that, I've gotten the feeling (I mean Ned said it a couple of times, anyway, and was quoted here) that he's not as down on LaRoche as some think.
2007-11-20 17:58:52
22.   underdog
Sorry, 18 referred to 12 . But yeah, they are all just rumors. So stop right there and spare yourself the ulcer. ;-) I still think the Crede rumors were purely the work of fiction on the part of a bored hack writing for the Chicago paper, wishful thinking and nothing substantiated anywhere else.
2007-11-20 18:01:02
23.   Greg Brock
22 To add, the Dodgers will always be fodder for professional speculators, because they're a big market team and they usually have some good prospects.

Nobody speculates about what the Pirates will do.

2007-11-20 18:01:55
24.   Sam DC
I mean, I knew Live Free or Die Hard would be bad, but I really am surprised it is this bad.
2007-11-20 18:06:43
25.   underdog
Is it that bad? I missed it in theaters. Sounds like a good move. I did, however, see "Live Free or Die," which is very different.

Never mind that, today also saw the release of Hearts of Darkness A Filmmaker's Apocalypse, which if you've never seen, well.. now's your chance. And Rescue Dawn, too, which makes a good double-feature.

2007-11-20 18:07:32
26.   Bob Timmermann
Nobody speculates about what the Pirates will do.
http://www.bucsdugout.com/
(Has a link to a story about the Bucs signing a reliever from Japan)

http://whereisvanslyke.blogspot.com/
(Fascinating link on possible coaches for the Bucs)

OK, I got nothing.

2007-11-20 18:10:10
27.   Andrew Shimmin
I'm with Jon. It's been a down year for movies. I don't think last year's were a bumper crop, either. The last movie I loved was In the Bedroom, and that was 2001.
2007-11-20 18:14:27
28.   D4P
27
Did you at least "like" "House of Flying Daggers"...?
2007-11-20 18:15:31
29.   Bob Timmermann
27
You always have C-SPAN3 and Brian Lamb to fall back on.
2007-11-20 18:16:18
30.   dzzrtRatt
The problem with sports reporting is that its ethics are even lower than political reporting.

I think agents especially, but also some GMs are just telling out and out lies this time of year under the cover of source anonymity that reporters respect even when they're obviously being used in a sleazy way.

Either Florida's GM is lying about Ned's offer, or Lowell's agent is lying about the supposed contract offer, or both.

I'm almost positive Lowell's agent is lying. Lowell set down a marker: Four years. If we offered it to him, why didn't he take it? I don't think it happened. But I think his agent wants other players to think he succeeded in getting Lowell his four years -- he just rejected it for personal reasons.

Think about it. You're a reporter. You know Ned's reputation. It's perfectly credible to suggest he would offer something like that. Reporter goes, "Hm. Plausible," and goes with it.

If the Dodgers are saying no news til after the holidays, I'm guessing the reporting on MCAB and the D's is also based on lies.

2007-11-20 18:18:47
31.   D4P
30
Lowell needed four years.

I don't see how he's gonna feed his family once his three-year contract runs out.

2007-11-20 18:25:08
32.   Bob Timmermann
30
As someone who has a brother in the sportswriting racket, I wouldn't say that all sports reporters are unethical and trade in rumors or let themselves be played by GMs and coaches.

And I don't think Gammons or Stark are unethical.

Rosenthal strikes me as someone who just feels that he keeps having to crank out column after column because that's what Foxsports.com wants.

2007-11-20 18:28:34
33.   dzzrtRatt
Well, that's the way agents think, and a concept that a lot of GMs buy into. Every contract is one year longer than is reasonable given the player's age. Players want at least one year of free money to fund their retirement.

Turns out in Lowell's case that four years was two years too long. He'll be good for only two more years, so he got a three-year deal.

2007-11-20 18:30:13
34.   Andrew Shimmin
28- Didn't see it. Fantasy as a genre doesn't do it for me. I was indifferent to the Tolkien movies, too.

29- I don't get CSPAN3. I'm very bitter about it. I just found out the other day that I do get ESPNU. Now if only there were anything on it.

2007-11-20 18:30:48
35.   old dodger fan
From the Marlins page at Fox Sports:
"The Marlins need to rebuild their pitching staff, with or without LHP Dontrelle Willis. They also must find a new catcher if Miguel Olivo is not tendered a contract, as is expected. They're also still looking for a center fielder."

I know where they can find a centerfielder. Might we include ours in a deal with half his salary paid? Probably not, but probably as likely as a lot of stuff we have specutlated on in the past few days. Just wishful thinking.

2007-11-20 18:31:06
36.   Andrew Shimmin
31- By the way, how did you not get that that was a parody of a movie trailer?
2007-11-20 18:31:55
37.   Andrew Shimmin
36 cont.- It started out with, "In a world. . ."
2007-11-20 18:32:32
38.   dzzrtRatt
32 I should rephrase.

Within the sportswriting field, a low level of ethics is accepted. It doesn't mean every sportswriter sinks to it.

And to drill down a little further: It's really the sources who are being unethical. The reporters I'm thinking of let them get away with it, because they themselves pay no penalty for being wrong. I don't know if that's unethical or amoral or just stupid. Probably a case by case thing. But one thing's for sure. When MCAB signs with the Orioles, Rosenthal won't be fired because he said the Dodgers were close.

2007-11-20 18:33:37
39.   D4P
Didn't see it. Fantasy as a genre doesn't do it for me. I was indifferent to the Tolkien movies, too

House of Flying Daggers has nothing to do with Tolkien. I guess it's "fantasy", but not in the Comic Book Guy sense. It's a beautiful movie with a great soundtrack.

I bet you'd like it.

2007-11-20 18:34:42
40.   D4P
36
Did you mean to refer to 31 ...? If so, I don't follow.
2007-11-20 18:35:54
41.   Jon Weisman
There's very little incentive for reporters to be gatekeepers in the Hot Stove. I don't think they make stuff up - they don't have to.

And then, they're also allowed to speculate about what might happen based on the lies they're told. It's just a mess - but that's what most people seem to want.

2007-11-20 18:37:59
42.   natepurcell
favorite word for baseball reporters...

"perhaps"

After the inclusion of that word, they can put anything following it and it wouldn't be wrong!

2007-11-20 18:38:22
43.   old dodger fan
I just finished the Hobbitt and Fellowship of the Ring. I thought they were interesting but not riveting. I probably won't watch the movies though. They usually disappoint me if I read the book first. The Eragon movie was OK but the book was much better.
2007-11-20 18:39:35
44.   Andrew Shimmin
39- I saw the Jumping Tiger, Singing Dragon movie. It was fine. I see why people like those movies. I'm sadly immune to their charm.

40- The other day. You jumped ugly with dzzrtRatt over saying that Lowell needed four years, when it was clearly an affected voice. I read it catching up on six hundred comments at a time, so I could mention it. I thought that was the allusion in 31. I've been looking for an opening to scold you over it, since.

2007-11-20 18:42:27
45.   Andrew Shimmin
44 corrected- Couldn't, even. Which isn't strictly true, since I could have mentioned. But the thread had moved on to more unpleasant things, and calling you names, while it would have fit in, didn't seem prudent.
2007-11-20 18:46:21
46.   D4P
44
dzzrtRatt was quoting someone else saying that Lowell "needed" four year. I jumped ugly over the someone else, and appropriately so.
2007-11-20 18:49:04
47.   Andrew Shimmin
46- Ah. Alright. Well. If you've learned your lesson, then okay.
2007-11-20 18:50:30
48.   D4P
Wait a second: I just looked back and found that Andrew was right. I totally missed that. The fact that it was in bold made my mind assume that he was quoting someone else.

Sheesh. Strike all of my comments in relation to Lowell needing four year.

2007-11-20 18:51:32
49.   D4P
Huh: so this is what it's like to feel stupid.
2007-11-20 18:52:34
50.   Andrew Shimmin
48- You shouldn't have checked. I was prepared to believe that I'd misread it all. Now I have hand.
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2007-11-20 18:54:18
51.   D4P
50
I'm glad I checked. Hopefully Ratt will see my explanation and apology. He must have been confused over my response.
2007-11-20 18:58:40
52.   silverwidow
Rosenthal just updated the article. They want four players and are insisting on Kemp AND Kershaw.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7466954

2007-11-20 19:06:08
53.   old dodger fan
52 For what it's worth he also says, "the Dodgers continued balking at the Marlins' price".
2007-11-20 19:06:14
54.   kingbb99
http://tinyurl.com/ypr22c

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but Tim Brown has the Dodgers talking about Matt Kemp in a package for Erik Bedard.

That would certainly eliminate the Dodgers from any Santana or Cabrera blockbusters.

2007-11-20 19:06:32
55.   Marty
House of Flying Daggers is one of the most beautiful movies I've ever seen.
2007-11-20 19:08:38
56.   Marty
If you can stand the commercials, It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World is about to start on AMC.
2007-11-20 19:10:37
57.   Bob Timmermann
56
Kid, you told me these commercials were going to be short! Why you ....
2007-11-20 19:11:41
58.   Marty
Down there? Down there?
2007-11-20 19:14:53
59.   Marty
Bob, I just saw on chowhound.com that Gus' BBQ was bought by the owner's of the Tops Hamburger chainlet and will remain a rib joint. Hopefully edible ribs.
2007-11-20 19:16:47
60.   Bob Timmermann
59
And presumably the ribs would be placed on the table by someone who actually was polite.
2007-11-20 19:18:49
61.   trainwreck
I have seen the Taiwanese movie where House of Flying Daggers got the forest fight seen from.
2007-11-20 19:20:40
62.   bigcpa
OK if Rosenthal's anonymous third-hand sources are correct I see 2 possibilities:

1) we deal Kemp/Kershaw/? for Cabrera. Then go cheap in CF with Cameron because Cabrera will get $12M in arb.

2) We lose out on Cabrera. With money to burn and losing out to the Angels again we go big with Andruw Jones. Then we have a surplus outfielder and the Pierre fantasies can play out.

I prefer 2 in a huge way. A Pierre/Cameron/Ethier OF will take all the fun out of having Miggy.

2007-11-20 19:23:05
63.   Marty
And I'm incorrect about IAMMMMW being on AMC. It's on TCM sans commercials. Woo hoo!. It's way up there on my list of all time great comedies.

"But what if something happens?!?"
"What could happen to an old fashioned?"

2007-11-20 19:23:30
64.   Ghost of Carlos Perez
I watched House of Flying Daggers while I was in China when it came out. At the most dramatic point in the movie (I won't give it away), the entire theater erupted with laughter. Somehow, I don't think that's the effect ZhangYiMou was going for.

I did not read any of the Chinese reviews, but I'm guessing the movie was received much better among non-Chinese speakers.

2007-11-20 19:24:47
65.   MC Safety
It has to be Kemp or Kershaw. Not Kemp AND Kershaw.
2007-11-20 19:24:57
66.   Bob Timmermann
63
I believe the movie is somewhere in the 200s on my Netflix queue.
2007-11-20 19:25:08
67.   Robert Daeley
Nervous Motorist: That's a police helicopter!

Otto Meyer: Yeah, that's what it looks like. They always use them.

Nervous Motorist: Who always uses them?

Otto Meyer: Who do you think?

2007-11-20 19:27:22
68.   old dodger fan
64 It was probably the sub-titles. Sometimes the Chinese subtitles have little relation to the spoken English.
2007-11-20 19:30:23
69.   Ghost of Carlos Perez
68
It was not dubbed, and the subtitles were in Chinese.
2007-11-20 19:32:16
70.   Sam DC
Five minutes in the Bruins still have not scored.
2007-11-20 19:32:39
71.   Ghost of Carlos Perez
69 I'm not sure that was clear. All Chinese movies use subtitles that match word-for-word the dialog being spoken (so you can read along with what you are hearing).
2007-11-20 19:37:37
72.   JoeyP
I'm not sure how Kevin Love got so highly ranked.

He cant jump at all, nor is very athletic.

2007-11-20 19:40:00
73.   Vishal
"the marlins WANT both kemp and kershaw" (but presumably will accept something less?) from the dodgers.

"the marlins are INSISTING on kendrick and possibly adenhart" from the angels.

maybe i'm reading too much into the word choices there, but it sounds like the marlins might be persuaded to get something less than both kemp and kershaw. i mean, i WANT millions of dollars, a mansion, and a bugatti veyron, but i'm not necessarily expecting those things to be handed over to me.

2007-11-20 19:41:33
74.   El Lay Dave
54 It came up near the end of the thread before last.

72 And yet he scored 18 and rebounded 16 against Maryland the other night. His footwork looks good to me as do his hands; those can be difference-makers for big men.

2007-11-20 19:41:56
75.   trainwreck
72
You sound like an NBA GM. The reason the NBA game has deteriorated is because there are too many guys who are not like Kevin Love. All athleticism with no fundamentals or skills.
2007-11-20 19:43:42
76.   El Lay Dave
8 minutes in and it's 10-4 Michigan St., but UCLA has them in the penalty already - 7 fouls.
2007-11-20 19:45:44
77.   El Lay Dave
I see James Loney will be on the Rose Parade float, but Matt Kemp is not listed. Perhaps the veterans conspired to place Kemp too close to the exhaust pipe.
2007-11-20 19:46:33
78.   Eric Stephen
Tom Krasovic in the San Diego Union-Tribune has a nice feature up on their website regarding the Padres' 40-man staff:

http://uniontrib.com/more/40man

I think that's a good idea, and it's a good way for a newspaper to provide something that probably couldn't fit in the daily paper.

Some of it is dated, as the players are the 40-man roster as of the end of the season.

2007-11-20 19:47:14
79.   trainwreck
Oh no! Not Westbrook.

He should have tried to lay it up instead of dunk it.

2007-11-20 19:50:21
80.   El Lay Dave
I wonder what Bill Walton's vertical was.
2007-11-20 19:53:28
81.   Bob Loblaw
This Cabrera rumor must have some truth to it if MSN puts it on their front page.

Re: sportswriters
I don't know how unethical some may be, but I do get a feeling that some of them will lobby for a specific trade that they like, and that may be the case with some Cabrera rumors. An example that comes to mind was last July when Evan Grant of thhe Dallas Morning News kept lobbying for the Dodgers to trade Kemp & Loney in a package for Texiera.

2007-11-20 19:54:11
82.   willhite
77 -

Obviously, the Dodgers know they won't have Kemp by January.

Take another look, do you see Kershaw's name? This is obviously the best way to find out what's going to happen.

How about Cabrera? Is he riding the float?

More importantly, what about JP?

2007-11-20 19:54:44
83.   Bumsrap
Kemp is behind the trash can and perhaps that is why he can't be seen on the float.
2007-11-20 19:56:40
84.   El Lay Dave
Cabrera IS the float!
2007-11-20 19:56:55
85.   alnyden
I am bracing myself to be really really bummed. If this rumor is true, we won't have a team of young Dodgers to look forward to. With LaRoche and Kemp gone that dream is pretty much out the door. So much for "we have a plan and we're sticking to it". I'm praying they sign a center fielder and keep the rest of the kids, but it doesn't sound as if that will happen.
2007-11-20 19:57:52
86.   El Lay Dave
83 I couldn't see a plausible reason for a trash can to be on the float, but I thought the "exhaust pipe" served as a reasonable substitute.
2007-11-20 19:58:51
87.   El Lay Dave
Most published rumors are not true.
Most published rumors are not true.
Most published rumors are not true.
Most published rumors are not true.

etc.

2007-11-20 20:00:18
88.   Andrew Shimmin
Westbrook demonstrates why you should never make a non-monetary bet with your barber.
2007-11-20 20:00:30
89.   El Lay Dave
Best guidelines ever on Hot Stove rumors:
http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/866211.html
2007-11-20 20:05:43
90.   Bluebleeder87
If the right deal comes along & if we were to get A. Jones to replace Kemp I wouldn't mind losing Kemp it has to be the perfect situation though.
2007-11-20 20:12:23
91.   Marty
Come to think of it, I didn't see Kemp or Kershaw at the last Soviet military parade.
2007-11-20 20:13:08
92.   Bluebleeder87
89

I kind of don't like #5 specially cause Ned acquired Juan Pierre (I can't trust 'em) but I am neutral on him & if he makes the right moves I'll be the first to praise Ned Colletti but till then I'll be looking at him with a suspicious brow (sp?)

2007-11-20 20:14:19
93.   underdog
The only thing worse than having to listen to Dick Vitale is having to listen to Dick Vitale sounding like he needs an esophageal transplant.

Looks like this could be the Bruins' first loss.

I'm gonna turn it to ABC, where an old favorite is on:

"Popcorn?! Toast?? What kind of a Thanksgiving is this Charlie Brown??"

2007-11-20 20:14:40
94.   LogikReader
90

Bleeders is right, but given the choice, I'd much rather go with the home grown option, all other things being equal.

We can't assume Andruw Jones is going to rake this season. The jury is still out on whether 2007 was a fluke. That's the other factor.

2007-11-20 20:15:11
95.   Benaiah
Is Rosenthal just writing the same article every day? He is pounding home these themes about the embarrassment of losing out on another big bat, 10th best offense in the NL, Matt Kemp no longer being untouchable and Joe Torre means winning now. Is this his personal campaign, or is he just changing the words at the top of the article and getting paid like he wrote two columns?
2007-11-20 20:16:02
96.   fordprefect
92
Jaundiced eye?
2007-11-20 20:20:03
97.   Daniel Zappala
43 I just finished the Hobbitt and Fellowship of the Ring. I thought they were interesting but not riveting. I probably won't watch the movies though. They usually disappoint me if I read the book first. The Eragon movie was OK but the book was much better.

Aaagh! The Eragon series is very good, but cannot approach the greatness of the Tolkien books. The Eragon movie was not OK, it was lousy, terrible, awful, about the worst movie based on a book ever made. The Lord of the Rings movies, on the other hand, are wonderful, and a great counterpart to the books. You will be really missing something if you don't see them.

2007-11-20 20:22:55
98.   Bluebleeder87
Kemps potential is great so I can understand why many people wouldn't wanna trade him but if the right deal came along why not.
2007-11-20 20:24:45
99.   Bluebleeder87
96

I'm still neutral towards him so nah. I wanna believe we have a great GM believe me!

2007-11-20 20:26:36
100.   underdog
I agree with Daniel, the Eragon movie was awful (I'm not a big fan of the book series, either; they always reminded me of how young their author was when writing them, but the movie's far worse). I had trouble finishing all the Tolkien books, though I loved The Hobbit, but the movies are damned exciting and for cut out all the stuff you don't need anyway. (Maybe could've cut a bit more, too...)

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I'm telling you guys, stop reading Rosenthal. Your life will be that much healthier for it. It is tempting to drop him a line though, asking him what his deal is. But tain't worth it...

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2007-11-20 20:42:11
101.   Andrew Shimmin
"Dan Szymborski says A-Rod will suck in 2016!"

http://tinyurl.com/2aqvyv

2007-11-20 20:47:30
102.   Jon Weisman
100 - I wouldn't know Rosenthal existed if people here didn't keep reminding me. He really serves no purpose. At best, he posts actual news five minutes before the rest of the world. The rest is all noise ... it's like hearing sensational speculation about the sausage being made.
2007-11-20 20:49:52
103.   Bob Timmermann
102
Ken Rosenthal is easy to post up, but I don't post him on the Griddle.
2007-11-20 20:52:27
104.   bigcpa
Rosenthal just updated the Cabrera column again! No sign of any new info. I think he changed a comma to a semicolon.
2007-11-20 20:54:30
105.   Bob Timmermann
104
Subordinate clause instead of a dependent clause, eh? Or was it in a series?
2007-11-20 20:54:30
106.   Andrew Shimmin
Rosenthal is also crushingly boring. If everything he wrote were prescient, I still wouldn't read him.
2007-11-20 20:54:40
107.   Izzy