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*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
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*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
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*$400,000 Tony Abreu
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*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
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Slot Rot
2007-12-11 21:43
by Jon Weisman

From Jon Heyman of SI.com:

The Tigers were right to ignore baseball's ridiculously arbitrary slotting system, whereby teams use a player's draft position as the guideline for what his signing bonus should be. By ignoring it, Detroit was able to sign the better prospects and put them in a position to make this trade. The Yankees also have wisely ignored MLB's bonus recommendations. And now the Mets' Minaya told Baseball America and Newsday they may have to rethink their resolve to stick to the system. Being what Minaya called "good citizens," has cost them big time.

Previously on Dodger Thoughts: one of a few stories I wrote about a sore subject I kind of decided I shouldn't bring up again.

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Jeff Kent tendered his non-resignation, Diamond Leung of the Press-Enterprise reports. Thanks to commenter Eric Stephen for spotting it before I went to bed.

Comments (244)
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2007-12-11 21:49:09
1.   Eric Stephen
Jeff Kent is officially back.

http://tinyurl.com/2wg2ru

2007-12-11 21:50:00
2.   trainwreck
Yeah, buck the system! Spend the money on the draft!

We want Blair!

2007-12-11 21:50:08
3.   Eric Stephen
Semi-LAT'd

Padres signed Tadahito Iguchi...1 year / ~$4m

http://tinyurl.com/2tdy3t

2007-12-11 21:50:25
4.   Jon Weisman
1 - I guess that's bigger news.
2007-12-11 21:50:28
5.   Eric Stephen
Other NL West news...which team got the best 3 year / $30m pitcher?

Rockies extended Aaron Cook.

2008 (age 29) - added $2,5m bonus to existing $4.5m salary
2009 - $8.75m
2010 - $9m
2011 - $9.25m
2012 - $11m mutual option ($500k buyout)

He's battled injuries, but has put up some good, albeit possibly misleading numbers:

2004 - 115 ERA+, 3.72 K/9
2005 - 130 ERA+, 2.59 K/9
2006 - 116 ERA+, 3.89 K/9
2007 - 116 ERA+, 3.31 K/9

2007-12-11 21:51:21
6.   Eric Stephen
4
I posted it in the last thread and thought for sure when I clicked on the new post Kent would be the topic. I was trying to figure out how "Slot Rot" fit the topic! :)
2007-12-11 21:52:50
7.   Vishal
4 except for the fact that it was totally expected.

re: arcade fire... i never got why people are so into this band. seriously, what's the big deal?

2007-12-11 21:54:57
8.   Eric Stephen
With tomorrow's arbitration deadline, I expect a human interest piece from Plaschke with the headline, "Hendrickson to Dodgers: Love Me, Tender"
2007-12-11 21:55:32
9.   Daniel Zappala
Bob, if you're going, expect a heavily pro-BYU crowd:

"Each school was provided 12,000 tickets to distribute to its fans. BYU sold its entire share in just under two days, but UCLA gave BYU several thousand tickets from its allotment to sell to BYU fans, according to BYU associate athletic director Duff Tittle."

2007-12-11 21:56:22
10.   Vishal
btw, jon, you were dead on about kyle blair. i think i said so at the time, and i'll say it again. there's no way this voluntary slot payment restriction system can hold up in the long term.
2007-12-11 21:57:24
11.   trainwreck
I know there are a couple other Dillinger fans on here.

What do you guys think of Ire
Works?

2007-12-11 21:58:40
12.   natepurcell
11

I haven't heard it yet but its on my to do list!

2007-12-11 21:59:31
13.   Bob Timmermann
9
UCLA fans are to football tickets as a hungry Esau was to his birthright.
2007-12-11 21:59:52
14.   trainwreck
12
It is a mix of Miss Machine and totally new more melodic stuff. Of course, they had to be quite different with only one guitarist. A lot more use of electronics.
2007-12-11 22:00:37
15.   Eric Stephen
Adding more to 5 , Cook seems like he's walking a tightrope with his low K numbers, but he's generally given up very few homers (amazing in Colorado), doesn't walk a lot of guys and is Madduxian in his pitch efficiency.

His FIP ERA the last 4 years have been reasonably good:

2004 - 4.33 (D.Lowe 4.33, for comparison)
2005 - 4.23 (Lowe 4.10)
2006 - 4.11 (Lowe 3.72)
2007 - 4.50 (Lowe 3.97)

2007-12-11 22:02:13
16.   Eric Stephen
Woo hoo! My first "above the fold" mention on Dodger Thoughts.

I'm going to frame my monitor.

2007-12-11 22:06:22
17.   StolenMonkey86
If you mandate that revenue sharing money has to be spent on personnel, and say the draft counts, the slot limits will be history.
2007-12-11 22:06:51
18.   overkill94
7 Funeral is an amazing album pretty much from start to finish. I'd be hard pressed to think of a more emotional album due to the combination of excellent lyrics and visceral vocals.

Neon Bible is one I'm having a hard time getting into, so it's possible they were more of a one-album wonder, but the critics seem to like it so maybe there's hope yet.

2007-12-11 22:09:37
19.   StolenMonkey86
I wonder what Kuroda's DIPS would be for 2004:

147 IP, 187 H, 17 HR, 29 BB, 139 K

2007-12-11 22:21:25
20.   Michael D
Speaking of Canadian Music Thoughts, Devin Townsend is Canadian. That guy is friggin amazing, and by himself has made Canada worthy of being in existence.
2007-12-11 22:26:43
21.   sweepstakes
Not sure if it was mentioned in last post but mlb trade rumors his Dodgers in lead for Kuroda.
2007-12-11 22:29:26
22.   MC Safety
I remember Bob saying Hiroshima is pretty bad. How much of an impact do you guys think that had on his record, and is run support relevant?
2007-12-11 22:32:26
23.   arbfuldodger
Hey Nate you are making too much sense on the Oriole board and also blowing up their fantasy of rebuilding w/ all our best prospects.

I love how if they take Pierre's contract that means we have to throw Broxton as a sweetner.

2007-12-11 22:46:11
24.   StolenMonkey86
Ok, I was going to say Pierre for Jay Payton, but I'm feeling generous enough to say Pierre and Hendrickson for Jay Payton and Danys Baez, particularly since Baez just had Tommy John and we won't have to see him next year.
2007-12-11 22:55:35
25.   LogikReader
DeAngelo Hall Reaction to Petrino backstabbing, uh, I mean switching to Arkansas, is now up at ESPN.com (as of 10:55 pm)
2007-12-11 22:55:51
26.   Eric Stephen
Update from Tony Jackson: Kuroda on a plane, scheduled to land at LAX at 9:30am Wednesday.

http://tinyurl.com/22f3my

2007-12-11 23:02:03
27.   neuroboy002
7 , 18 I listened to Neon Bible before Funeral. I was hooked immediately after I heard "Intervention." "Wake up" is also high on fan lists. They did a terrific job on SNL earlier this season.
2007-12-11 23:13:00
28.   Eric Stephen
In Ken Gurnick's mailbag the other day, he mentioned the Dodgers have $98.1m currently committed in salary. I try to keep track of this stuff on my own (for the Dodgers and several other teams -- weird hobby, I know!) and I'm $350k off. Can somebody shed some light for me? Here's what I have so far for the 2008 payroll:

Offense
Andruw - $14.1m (includes $9m salary & $5.1 singing bonus)
Furcal - $13m
Kent - $9m
Nomar - $8.5m
Pierre - $8m
Total Offense - $52.6m

Pitching
Schmidt - $15.5m (includes $15m salary & $500k bonus)
Lowe - $10m
Penny - $9.5m
Loaiza - $7m
Total Pitching - $42m

Dead Weight
Tomko - $1m (buyout of 2008 option)
Odalis - $750k (split buyout of 2008 option 50/50 with KC)
Mueller - $750k (signing bonus due 1/15/08)
Wolf - $500k (buyout of 2008 option)
Lieberthal - $100k (buyout of 2008 option)
Lucille II - $50k (buyout of 2008 option)
Total Dead Weight - $3.15m

Total 2008 Committed Salary - $97.75m

My total is $350k off of Gurnick's number, and the only place I can think it comes from is that Kent had some performance escalators in his contract. However, the Kent returning stories mention his salary for 2008 being only $9m, so I'm confused.

2007-12-11 23:16:49
29.   Lexinthedena
26- I wish Tony Jackson wasn't wearing that Hawaiian shirt in his pic....he might as well be wearing a clown costume....
2007-12-11 23:17:08
30.   Eric Enders
I think Neon Bible is the best album of the past decade. (At least.) Funeral is great, too, though.

Duff Tittle?

2007-12-11 23:21:54
31.   StolenMonkey86
28 - You gotta pay Loney, Martin, Kemp, Ethier, Billingsley, Broxton, Saito, Brazoban, Proctor, a backup catcher, Repko, LaRoche, Beimel, and I might forget something, especially if we forget to non-tender Hendrickson

That'll run at least $10 million there

2007-12-11 23:23:03
32.   scareduck
In what dimension do you regret writing that piece about the Dodgers cheaping out on Kyle Blair? It didn't stop you from publishing a similar piece from CanuckDodger in re international signings:

http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/865947.html

It seems inconsistent.

2007-12-11 23:24:42
33.   Eric Enders
32 Nowhere does Jon say he regrets it.
2007-12-11 23:32:17
34.   Eric Stephen
31
I understand all that. But, at this very moment the only committed salary is for the players listed in 28 . The following players are all under team control in 2008, and will make in the $400k range (the minimum is $390k):

Martin
Loney
Kemp
LaRoche
Ethier
Abreu
Young (out of options)
Billingsley
Broxton
Meloan (may be a starter in AAA)
Kuo (out of options)

That's 8-11 players making a total of $3.2 - $4.5m

Technically Saito is also under team control, but he's likely to get a lucrative deal, in upwards of $2m, not to mention possibly a multi-year deal (with maybe a Kuroda recruitment bonus?)

We will find out tomorrow who gets offered arbitration, of the following players:

Beimel - a lock to come back, made $912,500 in 2007 (5+ yrs service time) - likely ~$1.5m in 2008
Proctor - a lock to come back, 1st-year arb-eligible (3 yrs service time) - likely ~$1m in 2008
Hendrickson - a definite maybe, made $2.925m (5+ yrs service time) - likely ~$3.5-4m in 2008
Repko - a maybe, 1st-year arb-eligible (3 yrs service time) - likely ~$600k in 2008
Brazoban - a maybe, 1st-year arb-eligible (3 yrs service time) - likely ~$750k in 2008

2007-12-11 23:39:35
35.   Eric Stephen
In the new LA Times article, Dylan Hernandez reports Seanez has been offered a 1-year contract by LA, and that Rudy's agent says 6-8 teams have expressed interest.

http://tinyurl.com/3bblkb

Seanez made $1.1m total in 2007 ($700k base + $400k for reaching games played incentives)

2007-12-11 23:43:16
36.   silverwidow
Hendrickson - a definite maybe, made $2.925m (5+ yrs service time) - likely ~$3.5-4m in 2008

No. Way. There's just no way.

2007-12-11 23:45:02
37.   Eric Stephen
36
I wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole, but it wouldn't shock me if he was offered arbitration (highly unlikely if the Kuroda deal is basically done)
2007-12-11 23:45:08
38.   arbfuldodger
From Rotoworld: Hiroki Kuroda reportedly informed the Hiroshima Carp on Tuesday night that he planned to sign with the Dodgers.
2007-12-11 23:48:06
39.   Eric Stephen
The Mariners blog in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer also says Kuroda is coming to LA:

http://tinyurl.com/ysxg5r

"multiple reports out of Japan said that Kuroda will settle instead with the Dodgers for the next three seasons."

2007-12-11 23:51:17
40.   Eric Enders
The Seattle PI is running with the story, citing "multiple reports out of Japan."

Kuroda Picks Dodgers Over Mariners
http://tinyurl.com/ysxg5r

2007-12-11 23:51:45
41.   Lexinthedena
The video I've seen of Kuroda doesn't impress me...
given it's a tiny sample but nothing that get's me excited....either way it's good because the youngsters stay!

Now Pierre to Texachicagmore and I'm in a state of Dodger elation...

2007-12-11 23:51:47
42.   Eric Enders
Or, what he said.
2007-12-11 23:59:16
43.   silverwidow
If Schmidt is healthy, Loaiza goes to the pen (in the Hendrickson role).

If not, we use Stults/Houlton for long relief, then bring up McDonald once Loaiza implodes.

2007-12-11 23:59:53
44.   Eric Enders
If Colletti is done dealing, I think we'd have to rate his off-season as an unqualified success. He managed to add a 4th starter and a star center fielder without giving up a single prospect or draft pick or long-term commitment.
2007-12-12 00:01:04
45.   KG16
You know, I was kind of pessimistic at the end of the regular season. I was convinced that Colletti was going to make a bunch of moves for the sake of making them, and that most of them would turn out to be not just bad, but stupid bad.

And here we are, a few weeks from New Year's and so far, no bad moves, let alone stupid bad moves.

And still, I feel like the other shoe is about to drop.

2007-12-12 00:02:23
46.   Blue Mousse
I don't understand the interest in Kuroda. Why waste 30 mil on a #4 starter when pitchers like Lieber and Livan are still available and might be willing to take a one year contract. Has anyone said anything good about this guy projecting him to be better than a #4? Can anyone say with confidence that he'll be better than Loaiza?

This also seems to confirm Jon's article about the stupidity of the Dodgers to not spend money on prospects. Even if Kyle Blair never pitches for us in the ML, barring injuries or a complete collapse, he would be a valuable trading chip in a couple of years. That alone is worth 1 mil. And we just wasted 30 mil on a pitcher will less promise than Blair.

2007-12-12 00:03:53
47.   Eric Stephen
43
That certainly looks like the plan. We'll also find out tomorrow if the "Hendrickson role" could be filled by, well, Hendrickson. :)

44
I agree 100%.

2007-12-12 00:07:54
48.   Lexinthedena
45- As long as that shoe is a fleet-footed, psuedo-centerfielder with intagibles...
2007-12-12 00:12:17
49.   Eric Stephen
46
For me, the Kuroda signing is more a relief in that it means we add pitcher without giving up Kemp or Ethier. I'd rate Kuroda as a better pitcher than Silva or Lohse, although not appreciably so. A 3-year deal seems reasonable.

A Lieber deal seems risky because of his injury history, even for one year. That doesn't seem what the Dodgers need. Livan is an innings eater to be sure (8 straight years and 9 out of 10 with 200+ IP, the other year 199.2 IP) but his quality is certainly declining and would he only want a 1-year deal?

2007-12-12 00:12:58
50.   thinkblue0
30-

That's a pretty hefty statement. The last decade has seen some really great albums. To name a few:

Neutral Milk Hotel -In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
The Flaming Lips- The Soft Bulletin
Radiohead- OK Computer
The Beta Band -The Three EPs
Built to Spill-Perfect from Now On
Godspeed You Black Emperor!-F# A# Infinity
Sigur Rós -Ágætis Byrjun
Broken Social Scene - Your Forgot It In People

Just a few off the top of my head...guess I'm not as into Neon Bible as much...

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2007-12-12 00:20:22
51.   overkill94
If Pierre is able to trade Pierre for something even remotely useful, I will consider this an A+ offseason, especially considering how worried I (and most of us) was when the season ended.
2007-12-12 00:22:44
52.   overkill94
50 My top five of the decade would probably be:

1. The White Stripes - De Stijl
2. Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour of Bewilderbeast
3. The Libertines - Up the Bracket
4. The Strokes - Is This It?
5. The Arcade Fire - Funeral

2007-12-12 00:23:11
53.   overkill94
51 Wow, too much boxed wine tonight, change the first Pierre to Colletti
2007-12-12 04:23:29
54.   Megaballs
Kent back. Kuroda coming. Pierre and Hendy going.
Could be a great day in LA...
2007-12-12 06:20:25
55.   CanuckDodger
Over at Ducksnorts, a Padres' fan comments, "Dang Dodgers actually throwing around their money wisely this off season, I hope this isn't a sign of things to come."
2007-12-12 06:31:02
56.   scareduck
33 - I would take Jon saying that he "kind of decided [he] shouldn't bring up" a story as regret.
2007-12-12 06:31:59
57.   scareduck
55 - he has little to worry about, unless the Andruw Jones deal pans out for the Dodgers. I'm really not impressed with that one; it's a lot of hope and not much else.
2007-12-12 06:51:28
58.   Terry A
44 - While there's still a big "if" in there, Eric, I agree wholeheartedly. And I would add to your list of his accomplishments his apparent staring down of Kent this offseason. Or mollifying him. Whichever.
2007-12-12 07:10:04
59.   Daniel Zappala
44 And yet people were ready to bury Colletti each time an unfounded rumor was published.

30 I was wondering if someone would pick up on that.

2007-12-12 07:17:21
60.   D4P
And yet people were ready to bury Colletti

The shovels are always within reach, right behind the torches and pitchforks.

2007-12-12 07:20:50
61.   Jon Weisman
32 - I never said I regretted writing it.
2007-12-12 07:21:06
62.   JoeyP
He managed to add a 4th starter and a star center fielder without giving up a single prospect or draft pick or long-term commitment.

The last thing this team needed was another costly PVL 4th starter. And 3 years is a significant committment to medocrity.

Why would you ever committ 3 years to a 4th starter?

2007-12-12 07:22:28
63.   Bob Timmermann
Japanese news agency story (it's in English):
http://www.japanball.com/news.phtml?id=11334

Kuroda will never has his surname pronounced correctly by people in L.A.

Unless they are Japanese natives.

2007-12-12 07:23:55
64.   Jon Weisman
56 - You left out the word "again."

The subject vexes me, which is why I'm trying to put it out of mind. It's sort of like a Pierre thing for me - I don't really have anything new to say, but each time I'm reminded of it, I get bitter.

2007-12-12 07:35:03
65.   JoeyP
Kuroda's age (33 years old), and the 3yr committment (if true) + salary are troubling to me.

Are the Dodgers really improved by having this guy on the roster for 3 years?

Judging from his previous years in Japan, he's also not used to the innings workload that he'd face in the US.

In terms of asset allocation, this seems more like a "depth/pvl" signing in stead of talent. The Dodgers need talent, not depth.

2007-12-12 07:36:15
66.   MC Safety
A top ten list covering the last ten years of music without Mogwai's Rock Action needs to be redone. I will start w Top 10 albums of the last fifteen years shortly. There is too much early nineties goodness to ignore.
2007-12-12 07:38:16
67.   Disabled List
The slotting controversy is a situation straight out of one my social theory classes. It's the Tragedy of the Commons, where an individually rational decision leads to a collectively irrational outcome.

Reading this made me glad that I was finally able to use my graduate education. God knows I paid enough for it.

2007-12-12 07:39:07
68.   Jon Weisman
65 - I've got to say, I'm sort of with Joey on this. Not entirely resolved, but ...

I'm not really worried about the money per se, though it might be a waste. But if this guy is Dice-K Lite, does he really help? And does this not perhaps increase the possibility that the Dodgers could trade away a more talented pitching prospect, since they can afford to now?

2007-12-12 07:39:22
69.   MC Safety
66 I will start my it should read. I need my tea!
2007-12-12 07:40:01
70.   Bumsrap
The Baltimore papers are saying the Reds, Dodgers, and Mariners are the leading teams for Bedard. As much as I would like to have Bedard on the Dodgers as a free agent, the faster Kuroda is officially signed the faster a #4 pitcher contributes to keeping Kemp, Broxton, Kershaw or at least 2 of 3 of them.
2007-12-12 07:42:41
71.   Ken Noe
The best thing about Kuroda is that, according to Tony Jackson, NedCo now is leaning strongly toward not trading Kemp or Either. All that will be required in the spring will be for Torre to say, "Dang I'm sitting Pierre today." And it will begin.
2007-12-12 07:43:12
72.   CanuckDodger
63 -- So, what to make of Kuroda's quote that he still hasn't made a choice of team? That he is flying to Los Angeles because that is where his agent is? Is he just being coy and doesn't want to say anything till an official anouncement is made?
2007-12-12 07:43:53
73.   D4P
There's nothing particularly exciting to me about signing Kuroda, other than the possibility that it means no one (good) needs to be traded.

On the other hand, as Jon points out, maybe this makes Ned feel like he can "afford" to trade Kershaw or some other young pitcher with a higher ceiling than Kuroda's.

2007-12-12 07:44:46
74.   Bob Timmermann
72
I think Kuroda is flying to L.A. in part because there are more flights from Narita to LAX than Narita to Sea-Tac.

And I don't think you can fly Narita to San Diego nonstop.

Plenty of Narita to SFO flights though.

2007-12-12 07:45:03
75.   Bumsrap
Rosenthal gave an example of what he thought Baltimore's owner would say if he had a chance to approve a trade of Bedard for Kemp and Broxton. "Kemp is a trouble maker and Broxton is just a reliever" to make his point that Angelos is the one hurting his own team.

Meanwhile, Kemp gets more national awareness that he is a trouble maker even if he isn't. If as a result his trade value goes down, good. Maybe the Dodgers will have to keep him.

2007-12-12 07:46:48
76.   StolenMonkey86
I like that Kuroda's walk rate and K/BB ratios have been decent. I wonder about his homer rate, though, but I really have to wonder how that translates to American ball.
2007-12-12 07:49:26
77.   Ken Noe
68 73 The young pitchers have always been mentioned as adjuncts to a Kemp or Loney deal. If they are staying, I think the pitchers will too. NedCo surely realizes that Lowe is gone in a year, and Schmidt remains a question mark. Doesn't he?
2007-12-12 07:52:24
78.   Pepperdine
75

If word gets out that Kemp is troublemaker, I'm sure the Dodgers would get a call from the Nationals.

2007-12-12 07:54:47
79.   CanuckDodger
68 -- I don't think it increases "the possibility that the Dodgers could trade away a more talented pitching prospect." Colletti is not going to be more willing to give up a future ace like Kershaw because he tied up a #4 starter for three years. And what could an Elbert, McDonald, or Meloan ALONE get us that Colletti really wants? A middle reliever? He's overpaid for middle relief before, but I don't think he feels desperate about our bullpen situation. Colletti makes dumb moves when he feels desperate. To me, Kuroda is worth $30 million just for keeping Colletti from feeling desperate about our starting pitching.
2007-12-12 07:57:33
80.   D4P
Mitchell has scheduled a press conference at 2 p.m. tomorrow to announce the results of his report.
2007-12-12 08:02:00
81.   StolenMonkey86
80 - Time zone?
2007-12-12 08:03:45
82.   D4P
81
Eastern
2007-12-12 08:05:37
83.   StolenMonkey86
That can mean only one thing:

Prediction time!

2007-12-12 08:06:45
84.   Robert Daeley
81 It's a big part of the country where the clocks are set differently, but that's not important right now....
2007-12-12 08:08:59
85.   D4P
Non-exhaustive list of names I'd like to see in the report:

LuGo
Clemens
Andruw (sorry)

2007-12-12 08:14:49
86.   StolenMonkey86
Locks
Neifi Perez (can't...stop...laughing)
Barry Bonds
Jason Giambi
Gary Sheffield
Jose Canseco
Rafael Palmeiro
Jason Grimsley
Jay Gibbons
Jose Guillen
Guillermo Mota
Ken Caminiti

Guesses
Jose Valentin
Luis Gonzalez
Sammy Sosa
Gary Matthews Jr

Would make me laugh
Juan Pierre
David Eckstein
Scott Podsednik
Doug Mientkiewicz

2007-12-12 08:15:20
87.   StolenMonkey86
blast! I forgot the Rocket in the guesses list.
2007-12-12 08:15:40
88.   Disabled List
I fear that Eric Gagne is going to be in there. But overall, I think the report is gonna mostly consist of lesser lights like David Segui and Guillermo Mota.
2007-12-12 08:17:10
89.   D4P
Would make me laugh
All Boras clients
2007-12-12 08:17:44
90.   ibleedbloo
I would not be suprised to see Trevor Hoffman on the list.
2007-12-12 08:18:09
91.   D4P
In general, I'm prepared to be underwhelmed. Like 86 and 88 , I think it'll be a mixture of obvious names and people no one cares about.
2007-12-12 08:19:10
92.   StolenMonkey86
91 - I'm hoping it's all in the hillarious list
2007-12-12 08:22:28
93.   Jon Weisman
79 - I guess you're probably right.
2007-12-12 08:22:47
94.   Disabled List
86

Would make me laugh
Juan Pierre
David Eckstein
Scott Podsednik
Doug Mientkiewicz

That reminds me of the time Wilton Guerrero was busted with a corked bat. I mean, what's the point?

2007-12-12 08:26:14
95.   D4P
Speaking of corked bats, I'll laugh if Slammin' Sammy and Albert "Don't call me Joey" hit the daily double.
2007-12-12 08:26:33
96.   Xeifrank
76. From what I've read, walk rates and HR rates have tended to increase for all (except for Nomo) the Japanese starting pitchers that come over here. Strikeout rates have remained pretty steady. It's a small sample size with only a half a dozen or so Japanese starting pitchers making the journey over here. Kuroda also pitched in a hitters friendly park in Japan if I'm not mistaken (Bob?), making it a little greyer to predict his HR allowed rate in the USofA.
vr, Xei
2007-12-12 08:30:13
97.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
In this market, 3 ys is pretty reasonable for a league-average starter, which seems to be a reasonable projection for Kuroda. I therefore don't see the reason for all the negativity on this possible signing--league average innings from the 4 slot of the rotation is worth a lot more than I think people are giving it credit for.

And while our rotation is better off in depth than most, it's not as if it has no problems--I would be shocked if any of the kids make the team out of ST, and out of Loaiza, Kuo, and Schmidt, maybe one will make the rotation. That still leaves open one slot. Would you rather have Kuroda, or Houlton/Stults? And what if Lowe, Penny, or Bills goes down with injury? Pitching depth is important, and much of our depth is still in AA ball--Kershaw might be ready at mid-season, but he walks too many people right now to pitch in the big leagues. Elbert is coming off injury, and McDonald hasn't pitched a full season in AA yet. One of the three might be ready this season, but I doubt they'll be ready in April.

WWSH

2007-12-12 08:30:35
98.   Disabled List
After posting 94 , I looked up Wilton on B-R, just for giggles. In 1.5 seasons with the Dodgers, Vlad's brother put up OPS+'s of 90 and 72. In 1997 he dr