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*$400,000 Matt Kemp
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$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
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*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
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Gray Skies Are Gonna Clear Up
2008-01-16 16:05
by Jon Weisman

Fog is often considered an ill omen, but there was something strangely soothing about finding Dodger Stadium this morning in deep cloud cover and 50-degree temperatures. After all, January is a little early for things to be heating up, literally or figuratively.

The Dodgers opened their rookie minicamp to the media today, and tantalized by the prospect of a winter's visit to the ballpark, I carved out the opportunity (at the expense of having to make up my work at some pretty odd hours this week) to grab an early taste of 2008.

Several young Dodgers - some candidates for the team coming out of Spring Training, others further down the line - worked out in relative anonymity. Not all their faces are familiar (to me, at least), and none wore names or numbers on their workout gear. For example, though I'm sure their mothers could tell them apart, there was much talk about how Andy LaRoche and (I think) Blake DeWitt looked like each other. So if you're looking for a scouting report on how everyone's swing looked, look elsewhere.

But general manager Ned Colletti, assistant general manager of player development De Jon Watson, head trainer Stan Conte and some of the prospects gave interviews today, and those of us in attendance came away with something of a status report.

  • The Dodgers are not pursuing a third baseman from outside the organization. LaRoche and Nomar Garciaparra will compete for the starting job.

    "Andy and Nomar give us two good options at third base," Colletti said. "We're gonna let them figure it out. I think (Andy) is on the verge of being where (James) Loney and (Matt) Kemp were a year ago, where (Andre) Ethier and (Russell) Martin were two years ago. It's time to give him an opportunity to stick with the club and play as much as he earns."

    "I think it's unfair to either player to have any preconceived notions of how it's gonna turn out. There'll be ample opportunity for both. Nomar's got the versatility to play some first base as well. James is gonna need a day off here or there.

    "It's probably the first Spring Training where (Andy) has had more than a legitimate chance to make this club. Most of the time a player has to make the club. He's almost gonna have to not make the club. It's a pretty good spot to be in."

    Further, LaRoche could very well remain on the team even if he's not in the lineup every day.

    "You have to really look at the composition of your roster," Colletti said. "You're gonna need availability as well. I think in LaRoche's case, if he can be productive even part-time, I'd be willing to give him an opportunity to stay. Abreu, due to his versatility in the infield, perhaps the same. … I think both players may have an opportunity to be here less than full-time.

    "You try to manage the needs of the club with the player's place and time, too. We need somebody with Abreu's versatility. We need somebody with (Chin-Lung) Hu's versatility – at least one or the other, if not both (though later Colletti downplayed the idea of Abreu and Hu both starting the season in Los Angeles). If Andy can produce power, even if it's once in a while, or if Nomar takes the job, that's okay too."

    "That said, if the roster shakes out and he has a great spring and we start the season and he doesn't make the club out of the camp, but he's had a great spring, that doesn't mean he's down in Las Vegas the entire year. As we say every year during the Freeway Series, our roster locked in for a day."

  • Reflecting on 2007, LaRoche pleaded guilty to trying to do too much during his first taste of the majors.

    "I struggled pretty bigtime up here at the plate," he said. "We looked back at my swing and it was a completely different swing than what I had in the minor leagues. I think I was trying to prove too much, too quickly. Instead of just staying relaxed, I think I was trying to hit too many home runs, and I was pulling off the ball, and a lot of things like that, instead of just staying relaxed, taking the same approach, just trying to get a line-drive base hit. You know, the home runs will come,"

    He added that he has already begun working with new Dodger hitting coach Don Mattingly – a process accelerated by the January minicamp – to get his swing back the way it should be.

    Neither Colletti nor LaRoche currently view his back as a concern.

    "He seems to be doing fine," Colletti said, "and it's our understanding if he stays in proper condition and works out, it ceases to be any detriment whatsoever."

    LaRoche said his back feels "great," and that he needs to do exercises a few times a week, 10 to 15 minutes a day.

    "The last time I got hurt during the season, the last time I missed any games because of my back, that's the last time it's hurt me at all," he said. "Coming in, I wasn't sure how taking all these grounders was going to feel last week, but it's been fine."

  • There very well could be days in 2008 – don't know how many - where the Dodger starting outfield will be Ethier, Andruw Jones and Kemp.

    "It's a Joe Torre question, but it's not out of the realm of possibility," Colletti said.

    "I'm fine with the outfield as it is. I like the versatility of it. I like the depth of it. I like the competition of it. Nothing wrong with competition. When you have competition, you have a chance to be a better club. Just like at third base. Let the players decide who's gonna play and how often they're gonna play."

  • There have been no rehabilitation setbacks for starting pitcher Jason Schmidt, but Colletti and Conte emphasized that there was a lot of work to do between now and the regular season.

    "We'll see how everybody pitches," Colletti said. "If he continues to progress, there's a great chance he'll be ready to go. But there's still a long way to go, and a lot of different tests that he has to pass, so to speak. But we've had nothing to discourage us. He's been throwing a while now. He's throwing off a mound. As of about two weeks ago, he was throwing every other day, on flat ground, about 100 throws a day, and now he's off the mound. Again, not 100 percent throwing, not everything-he's-got throwing, but … continuing to (build) his arm strength."

    Conte will visit Schmidt later this month, aiming to smooth his transition to Spring Training.

    "We've been really concerned in developing a lot of strength and flexibility at each phase of this," Conte said, "and making sure we don't have any setbacks. We're going to continue to do the same thing — not based on the calendar. As far as where he's going to be in Spring Training, I'll tell you guys the same thing I tell Ned Colletti when he asks me: 'We won't really know what he's going to do the first day of Spring Training until about a week before, depending on how he does the next three or four weeks.' "

    Of course, this depends in part on Schmidt being forthcoming about any problems.

    "We've told him that if he doesn't tell us, we're gonna beat him with a stick to a pulp," Conte said. "Jason knows exactly what's at stake here. … There's no reason for him to lie to me yet."

    Conte has hopes Schmidt will be 100 percent for the season, but it wasn't any kind of guarantee. Conte also didn't want to be pigeonholed as to what "100 percent" meant, other than health – as opposed to quality of performance.

  • Hong-Chih Kuo and Greg Miller haven't gotten much offseason attention, but they haven't been forgotten.

    "Hopefully, Kuo's healthy," Colletti said. "We had the same hope a year ago, after how he pitched at the end of the '06 season. He's another one that feels fine right now, but we'll have to wait and see. We could use him. We don't have many left-handed pitchers. Greg Miller's another one, another lefthander that's got a chance to make this club. We're not at appoint yet where we know if we're going to go with 11 or 12 pitchers, but you do the math, we don't have or 11 or 12 that we can lock in today."

    Watson also commented positively about Miller, who will be competing for a bullpen job.

    "He was healthy all of 2007," Watson said. "We worked on the command. He was in Arizona Fall League, and he's healthy. The velocity was back last year – he was anywhere from 92 to 97 (mph) the entire year. The command was the thing we were really trying to harness through the course of the year."

    Watson said the Dodgers do plan to convert 2007 minor-league relief ace Jonathan Meloan to a starting pitching role, and that's how he'll begin the season (one would think in Las Vegas).

  • Clayton Kershaw might see Los Angeles in 2008.

    "He's not somebody that we're going to delay his arrival," Colletti said. "He'll be here when he's ready. He may be here before he's completely ready, depending on injuries. But there's still some refinement for him, still some of the finer points of the art of pitching that he's still learning. He's not 20 years old yet. But he's got tremendous ability."

    Watson seemed open-minded about the idea of promoting young players, be they Kershaw, James McDonald or someone else. One of the purposes of the current minicamp is to prepare for that, by letting the Dodgers become more acquainted with the prospect and by letting the prospect become more acquainted with Los Angeles.

    "I think you really need to look at the player," Watson said. "The player's character and makeup, how he handles situations, the amount of innings he's had through the minor leagues to get himself prepared to come and perform at the major league level. His overall tool set and how does it fit and how it will play against some of the better players at the major-league level – against any player at the major league level. There's no league higher than the big leagues.

    "As they're progressing through the minor-league system, they start separating themselves. They're showing you their attributes, and what they can or can't do, and our job on the player development side is to close that gap on the things they can't do, so that they are a well-rounded major-league player, whether it be a pitcher or a position player. Getting them comfortable in the environment so that they can have that sense of "I've been here, I've done this before.'

    "Can you rush a kid? Sure, some kids can get rushed. But for us, we want to make sure that we've done everything possible to prepare that player for coming to the major leagues, and we wouldn't recommend him to be ready if we didn't think he was ready to come here and handle it – the entire aspects on the field, off the field."

    And that includes keeping tabs on the player after his debut, to guide him through the on-field setbacks.

  • Kershaw has certainly been made aware of the possibility of a 2008 callup but is trying to keep it in perspective.

    "I try not to (think about it)," said the lefty, who turns 20 on March 19, "but I kind of figure if I have a good start every time I go out, and if I pitch well, then I've got the opportunity to maybe get up here later in the year and help them out. If that happens, that'll be a dream come true for me, and if it doesn't, I'll have next year too. So I'm really not worried about it."

    Kershaw had a productive offseason, but didn't work too hard. He said he felt well-rested, noting that he took a month off at the end of the season, then pitched lightly in instructional league. He is eager to improve.

    "Next season I'm really going to start working on my changeup, really start trying to perfect that, making it a pitch that I can throw in any count. And really overall just more strikes – I know that's pretty much what every pitcher tries to do, but at the same time, it's really going to help me if I can just attack the zone a little bit more and cut down on my walks."

    Kershaw said his control wasn't a mental thing … although the more he talked about it, the more it seemed like a mental thing.

    "It's a lot of things pitching-wise, as far as really being aggressive, really not lapsing in any concentration things. You've got to focus on every hitter, and I learned that when I got up to Double-A."

    Kershaw said he has benefited from this month's minicamp.

    "Marty Reed is the pitching coordinator, and he always works with me. He's always a real big help for me. And it's really good whenever I get to work with him. And (pitching coach) Rick Honeycutt was out here for my first bullpen (session), and that was a great experience for me, just to see what he expects from his pitchers."

    Colletti said it was too soon to discuss whether Kershaw could come up in a bullpen role. Kershaw said he had never pitched out of the bullpen, but added that "as long as you can condition your arm to get ready a little faster … I think I could do it."

  • The bench and bullpen should still see some tinkering.

    "Our bench right now on a given day would be a young bench," Colletti said. "We can improve that with a veteran. There's not a team in baseball that wouldn't add another pitcher, so if that opportunity presents itself, we'll follow that as well.

    The Dodgers have been talking to free agents Mark Sweeney and Rudy Seanez from the 2007 team, but nothing concrete has developed, and they might move forward without one or both.

    Colletti said that Delwyn Young is definitely in consideration to be a key pinch-hitter off the bench, despite his youth. And even though Hu is a longer shot to make the team in April, Colletti had high praise for him.

    "Obviously, he played up here last September and did pretty well," Colletti said. "I think he's on the verge of being a big-league player. He may be somebody that is where Andy LaRoche was a year ago, where maybe barring an injury, it may be tougher for him to make the big-league club out of camp. Doesn't mean he won't. He may come in and he may end up beating out Abreu. Tough to say.

    "But (Hu) can play both sides of the bag, he's become a stronger player, and he's probably made us think about twice more than anybody lately, and he's also advanced from two years ago to last year probably more than anybody."

  • Watson said that even if some young players spend time on the major-league bench, they still have something to gain from the experience.

    "The one thing you can't duplicate at the minor-league level is the pace of the game and the flow of the game," Watson said. "The quality of pitching that they're going to see up here or the players on the other side of the baseball on the defensive end. These guys are all – Abreu, DY, Chin-Lung Hu – they're seem to be ready to play here."

    "Delwyn … he's shown that he can hit, and the ability to make adjustments off the bench. Well, the pitchers that he's going to face here, I can't get those guys to perform or play or match up against us every time in Vegas. So for him, he's ready to see (the best). When he came here last year, we looked at his performance at Vegas as well as what he did at the major-league level. He's ready."

  • Finally, Colletti talked about how Spring Training plays an important decision-making role for him – regardless of the different levels of competition players face.

    "Spring Training for me, instead of a movie, it's almost slide by slide," he said. "Whenever I see a hitter's at-bat, I see how they handle whoever's pitching pitch-to-pitch. Spring Training to me is a lot of chapters, a lot of individual chapters to where a player's at.

    "How a young player handles himself in Spring Training really sets the tone for the thought process for a season, because there'll be some players every spring, probably three or four, that have great springs. They're not quite ready to play in the big leagues, or you've got somebody that's more established already playing, but teams go through so many players in the course of a year, the impression a player leaves in Spring Training lasts a long time. … Invariably, the ones who had the solid spring are the ones who come to mind, even if there's somebody in the minor leagues that's perhaps got more experience than they do.

    "It gives us all an indication to a lot of things, including their work ethic, including their ability to adjust to a different situation."

    We talked a little about players like Wilson Valdez, players whose springs seem to belie their true ability. Colletti acknowledged that in those cases, he's trying to ride the crest of what might be a soon-to-collapse wave.

    "You're hoping he's made a leap," Colletti said. "When any player that's in his late 20s and been around a little bit, you have a pretty good idea of who he is, and you think that perhaps he's made a leap. And even if he hasn't made the full complete leap – at this point in the season, at this point in time, he's pretty good and deserves a chance to make a big league club."

    By the time the session was ending, the fog was long gone, and I could feel the warm sun on my face full-stop. You can hide, but you can't run. The 2008 season is coming, faster than you know.

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    2008-01-16 16:15:11
    1.   Suffering Bruin
    What's stronger than "thanks?" There's gotta be a stronger way to express my gratitude for this post than just "thanks."

    Start selling the tees again, Jon. Put me down for three.

    2008-01-16 16:17:31
    2.   Xeifrank
    Great post Jon. Did Colletti or anybody for that matter talk about
    1) The spring trip to China
    2) The move to Arizona
    3) The game at the Colliseum
    vr, Xei
    2008-01-16 16:17:58
    3.   Jon Weisman
    Just seeing the SB name in the comments is thanks enough :)
    2008-01-16 16:18:25
    4.   bhsportsguy
    And I was hoping for an exclusive post. :)

    Nice job Jon but you really shouldn't use up all that space on some fictional 19 year-old who might pitch for the Dodgers this year.

    2008-01-16 16:18:58
    5.   Jim Hitchcock
    What SB & XF said.

    One line i liked......against any player at the major league level. There's no league higher in the big leagues.

    Uh, okay.

    2008-01-16 16:19:00
    6.   Jon Weisman
    2 - China is still on track but not officially finalized. The Coliseum game is on, but I don't think a starting time has been set for the 29th. I didn't hear anything about Arizona.
    2008-01-16 16:19:58
    7.   Jon Weisman
    5 - Sorry - my typo there. "There's no league higher than the big leagues."
    2008-01-16 16:21:07
    8.   Slikk
    Thanks Jon. Very fun read and also VERY encouraging to hear these things.
    2008-01-16 16:22:18
    9.   bhsportsguy
    And Jon, can you clear up one thing, is Andy a little chubby or was that just a bad photo of what happens when you wear 3-4 shirts at a time.
    2008-01-16 16:23:18
    10.   Jim Hitchcock
    6 Oops. Sorry, Jon, I thought that was a quote. You remain above criticism :)
    2008-01-16 16:24:45
    11.   Jon Weisman
    10 - It was an accidental misquote. But it wasn't as if he thought he was saying something profound.
    2008-01-16 16:26:15
    12.   El Lay Dave
    It may be ten minutes later, but this is a much better writeup - thanks Jon.

    Sometimes Ned doesn't let go of his old ways of thinking:
    "Our bench right now on a given day would be a young bench," Colletti said. "We can improve that with a veteran...."
    Well, yeah, if he's a good veteran who's better than the young player....

    2008-01-16 16:28:47
    13.   Jon Weisman
    12 - I'm wanting to think that's implied.
    2008-01-16 16:30:25
    14.   bhsportsguy
    12 I think this goes right back to the question of either Abreu, Hu or a veteran filling that b/u infield spot. If Furcal and Kent are healthy, you are not going to get a lot of time and should both those guys play everyday in Vegas?

    I think you have to throw that in to the equation, just being better than younger player is not the end all of deciding who makes the 25-man roster or not.

    2008-01-16 16:32:18
    15.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
    Awesome report, Jon.

    Bring on 2008! I'm getting excited.

    2008-01-16 16:36:17
    16.   underdog
    Thanks much, Jon! I'm excited for you that you got to attend today and get the full report. And have to say that this post gives me great cheer, more, perhaps, than any other over the past year. They may be just saying all the right things but hopefully they mean it, too. Plus there's something about knowing that Don Mattingly is giving instruction to Andy LaRoche that makes me really excited.

    Despite what CHONE's projection says! ;-)

    2008-01-16 16:36:17
    17.   jasonungar07
    Great info Jon. As much of the interview that I heard and from what I have read today, I am very please with Coletti right now. Go Blue.
    2008-01-16 16:37:11
    18.   El Lay Dave
    12 I'm in the Abreu as backup IF camp, although I wouldn't mind seeing Hu/Abreu working together in Vegas honing their play together. As a 40-year 2B, Kent is going to need a fair number of pre-planned days off, and coming off injury, Furcal ought to be rested some. I can imagine Abreu getting ten starts at SS, seventeen or more at 2B (without Kent ever going on the DL), and plenty of defensive replacement work. Is 25 or so starts, plus late-inning work, plus injury-replacement work enough for Abreu's continued development? I suspect it will be.
    2008-01-16 16:38:43
    19.   SG6
    Thanks Jon!
    - from a dedicated reader, infrequent poster.
    2008-01-16 16:38:45
    20.   bhsportsguy
    Just wondering where Jason Repko fits in to the equation.

    Does anyone else see Jason running around the vast Las Vegas outfield in his future?

    2008-01-16 16:42:30
    21.   El Lay Dave
    P.S. The only time in the last five seasons that Kent has started over 140 games was 2005, his first year in L.A., when he started 148.
    2008-01-16 16:43:21
    22.   El Lay Dave
    20 Rafael Furcal.
    2008-01-16 16:47:34
    23.   Joe Pierre
    We got HIGH HOPES High Apple Pie in the SKY HOPES. Everything looks great especially ETHIER over Pierre Hopes. Well it wont be long, before we really find out.
    2008-01-16 16:47:51
    24.   Xeifrank
    16. CHONE projections seem down all across the board, but they have LaRoche with an OPS of .811 2nd highest on the team behind only Russell Martin. vr, Xei
    2008-01-16 16:50:14
    25.   Zak
    How a young player handles himself in Spring Training really sets the tone for the thought process for a season....

    That whole paragraph made me cringe a little. But plenty of positives overall. Liked a lot of what Kershaw had to say. And not convinced by anything said about Schmidt.

    Excellent write up Jon. Thank you for your hard work.

    2008-01-16 16:58:39
    26.   Jon Weisman
    25 - I don't know why you're not convinced about the Schmidt talk, since they basically said not to count on him for April. They were more conservative about him than I would be.

    It's not so hard to believe that he's healthy enough to do soft tossing. The problem is that's only the tip of the iceberg.

    2008-01-16 16:59:02
    27.   Jon Weisman
    25 - But thanks to you and everyone for their nice comments.
    2008-01-16 17:06:03
    28.   Ken Noe
    Thanks Jon. That made my day.
    2008-01-16 17:06:40
    29.   philmc78
    Jon...can you come up with someone to compare Clay Kershaw with? Is he an Erik Bedard/Cole Hamels type guy?
    2008-01-16 17:09:54
    30.   Jon Weisman
    29 - I've never seen him pitch, if your looking for a scout's assessment.
    2008-01-16 17:10:04
    31.   Jon Weisman
    Yikes ... "you're"
    2008-01-16 17:10:07
    32.   Jon Weisman
    Yikes ... "you're"
    2008-01-16 17:11:17
    33.   El Lay Dave
    30 I know it's not much to go on, but how did Kershaw come across as a person? Did he seem comfortable? After all, he's still just a teenager.
    2008-01-16 17:11:46
    34.   underdog
    24 Righto. I was thinking more about his projections for the DBacks over the Dodgers, teamwide projections vs. individual players.

    Anyway, I'm just happy to hear what they think about thirdbase. That it sounds like we can be done with any talk of bringing in a veteran 3b to compete, that he has a good chance of beating out Nomar, and that Nomar (whom I do still like, as a spot starter) will still get a fair shair of playing time. I also like that they're at least considering DY as a bench player/PH role. If they don't sign Sweeney he'll have an even better chance I'd think.

    2008-01-16 17:21:01
    35.   bhsportsguy
    I know Jon went back to Bye Bye Birdie for his title. At least he did not go to that old stand by from The Man From La Mancha.
    2008-01-16 17:21:54
    36.   underdog
    29 He doesn't exist. He's the Minotaur. Thus, comparisons are scientifically impossible.
    2008-01-16 17:22:06
    37.   Eric Enders
    Incredible post, Jon.

    I don't think Andy LaRoche and Blake DeWitt particularly look alike. Hmm.

    Anyway, this quote...

    "How a young player handles himself in Spring Training really sets the tone for the thought process for a season... the impression a player leaves in Spring Training lasts a long time."

    ...makes me think of a ST game I attended in Vero last spring. LaRoche, playing left field, caught the last out of an inning and as he jogged back to the dugout, he feinted as if he was going to throw the ball into the stands several times. Then, when he reached the bench, he kept the ball. Didn't give it to anybody. This got him a rousing round of boos from the fans. I thought he was just goofing around, but some people seemed to think there was actual malice involved. Anyway, I sometimes wonder if LaRoche's propensity for things like this is one reason that he seemed to be treated worse by the Dodgers last year than his performance dictated he should be.

    2008-01-16 17:24:04
    38.   bhsportsguy
    35 http://tinyurl.com/o8hrc
    2008-01-16 17:26:29
    39.   Eric Enders
    Oh, and by the way:
    Weisman 1, Gurnick 0.
    2008-01-16 17:29:14
    40.   Jacob L
    Fantastic post, Jon. I marvel at how you've managed to keep this place hopping through the off-season.

    On a related note, I drove by the Stadium this past weekend to ask if the rookie workouts were open to the public. The guy at the security booth said they are not, but you if you just tell them you're going to the gift shop, you can actually watch from the top deck. That might be worthwhile, assuming today wasn't the last day.

    On the other hand, you could say that my interest in watching minor leaguers work out from the top deck of Dodger Stadium is a sign that something is very wrong with me. I'll blame January.

    2008-01-16 17:31:35
    41.   Jon Weisman
    40 - Today was not the last day.
    2008-01-16 17:44:51
    42.   Gagne55
    36 Not just a minotaur, but one whose arm is literally electric. He's a bullheaded shockballer.
    2008-01-16 17:46:50
    43.   Icaros
    Awesome article. Sounds like these guys actually know what they're doing now.
    2008-01-16 17:54:46
    44.   dkminnick
    Wow. I've been jonesing for meaty Dodger news like this. Thanks, Jon, for brightening the darkest month.
    2008-01-16 17:58:55
    45.   trainwreck
    Great report, Jon.

    This is probably the most anticipated Dodger season in a long time. I just want spring training to start.

    2008-01-16 17:59:43
    46.   underdog
    39 Gurnick's busy running the report through the anti-LaRoche-inizer first.
    2008-01-16 18:07:55
    47.   KevinP78
    Jon- that's a whole lot of writing there. Thanks for doing this for us. I've gotta go home and finish... I'm not even close. Wasn't able to fake working long enough today.
    2008-01-16 18:13:21
    48.   Dave G
    Outstanding reporting, Jon. Thanks so much for giving us a great insight into management's thinking on these questions that we've never really had answered before.
    2008-01-16 18:42:03
    49.   Peanuts in My Shoes
    Thank you so much, Jon.

    Will the team be holding camp on Friday? I think I just might be feeling a cold coming on (cough, cough).

    2008-01-16 19:11:07
    50.   Zach the Ripper
    Good read, good sir. Interesting info and as always, I'm impressed with your "rico, suave" ability to set up the quotes.

    Regarding said PVL at 3rd, I'm in the camp where if he's swinging hard come April, let Andy pry the job from his "cold" dead fingers. Put their lockers right next door to eachother during the season, and give them both a real clear goal to shoot for every at bat.
    Of course I'm also assuming Andy still makes the roster if he's not a starter, and picks up some ab's at third, second and left.

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    2008-01-16 19:32:15
    51.   Shotupthemiddle
    Jon, nothing in this write-up gives me pause. Smiles from ear to ear in the Shotup household- we can't wait to see all these youngsters report to camp and show their stuff.

    Again, thanks for what you do for us here.

    2008-01-16 19:33:54
    52.   natepurcell
    a couple of thoughts.

    -AMAZING post/article/write-up Jon. Time and time again, you outdo yourself to make this the best, most close knit online community I have ever been apart of.

    -I don't know if it's just me but I am really impressed with De Jon Watson. His statements are logical and provide good amount of information; especially on the topics that interest me the most :). I can definitely see him becoming a GM candidate down the road. Colletti has really surrounded himself with quality assistants.

    Jon...can you come up with someone to compare Clay Kershaw with? Is he an Erik Bedard/Cole Hamels type guy?

    Well right now, as you read in Jon's post, he still really needs to work on his change up. It is plus at times, but he wants it to be plus...all the time!

    I think Kershaw's ability is a cross between CC Sabathia and Erik Bedard. He has the excellent moving fastball, hoss like innings eating ability, and tilted cap action of CC combined with that rare plus plus slow bender of a curveball of a Bedard.

    Whoever said this is one of the most anticipated seasons in a while, I fully agree. I can't wait!

    2008-01-16 19:38:23
    53.   dzzrtRatt
    Wow. Thank you Jon. What a magnificent piece of reporting and writing. And what a megachunk of encouraging observations.
    2008-01-16 19:41:56
    54.   natepurcell
    I'm just excited for all the arms i get to follow next year in the minors!

    Kershaw, Mcdonald, Elbert, Morris, Withrow, Meloan, Adkins, Sexton....OH MY!!!

    2008-01-16 19:50:28
    55.   Indiana Jon
    29 I'm no scout, but I did get a chance to see Kershaw last year, including a pretty close seat near where he was warming up before the game. To me, he doesn't a typical left handers style, if you know what I mean. He pitches more like a right hander from the left side. As Nate said above, he does appear to have a real nice curveball, again that just my uneducated observations. I'm not real good with comparison, but if I had to name a name, I would say he reminds me a little but of Billingsley from the other side. One other thing I noticed is that he throws hard very easily. Although it just looked like he was throwing at an average level, his pitches registered quite well on the stadium gun.
    2008-01-16 19:52:57
    56.   das411
    Man oh man, posts like this are why we all love ya Jon!

    (although I seriously would've spread this out into like a week's worth of individual stories if any of the interviews I get to do now were this rich in material...geez!)

    One minor Q though, does the outfield "as it is" include Ethier and Kemp OR one of those two and Pierre in LF?

    2008-01-16 19:55:25
    57.   Sam DC
    A fun read, and a nice open and close. Thanks a lot for taking the time to haul out there Jon.

    I understand why folks found this so encouraging, and I did in a lot of ways too, but I wonder if it just speaks of something wrong in me that my first two reactions were:

    1. Of course, I'm glad he's praising the young players and saying he'd go to Opening Day with La Roche and Nomar, but he'd say that stuff (or at least he should) even if he hated this roster and was just steaming that he missed out on Scott Rolen. In other words, when I don't like the news from team officials, I remind myself that they have a lot of audiences and motivations behind what they say, and that should hold too if I like what they say.

    2. In talking about the players, both Colletti and Watson talk so much about makeup, and handling the situation, and tone and so much totally subjective stuff. I understand they are talking about stuff that is hard to describe, and I realize this sort of media event just naturally calls for that kind of talk, but I find it offputting after a point. I mean, at some point, actual performance of these players over there minor league careers could be referenced too, no?

    2008-01-16 19:56:14
    58.   Sam DC
    Well, just reading back, I guess this comment refers to measured performance: "When he came here last year, we looked at his performance at Vegas as well as what he did at the major-league level. He's ready."
    2008-01-16 20:07:05
    59.   Bluebleeder87
    I don't know if this was posted yet if it was my apologies>>>He said he's "fine with the outfield as it is," meaning Juan Pierre and Andre Ethier are more likely to open camp with Andruw Jones and Matt Kemp than one of them to be traded away. He said it wasn't out of "the realm of possibility" that Ethier could start ahead of Pierre. New manager Joe Torre gets to figure out who plays and who doesn't and gets to dodge that question when he appears at the minicamp on Thursday.

    I am buying into the idea that Torre WILL play the better player (Ethier versus Pierre) I don't know if it's wishful thinking from my part but I do hope he plays Ethier a lot more than Pierre.

    2008-01-16 20:09:45
    60.   Jon Weisman
    58 - I still think your comments in 57 are very valid, at least to consider.
    2008-01-16 20:10:17
    61.   Jon Weisman
    56 - The outfield "as it is" means he's not looking to acquire or trade an outfielder.
    2008-01-16 20:10:44
    62.   Humma Kavula
    I have nothing original to say, so instead:

    (1) This is amazing work, Jon. This is the perfect thing to get excited for the season. Maybe I'll wear my Matt Kemp 27 shirt to work tomorrow.

    (2) There is no bad news here. I used to get a little skeptical when somebody would tell me exactly what I want to hear, but now, I think I'll take it at face value.

    (3) CHONE be damned. Bring on the D-Backs!

    2008-01-16 20:30:35
    63.   El Lay Dave
    52 I don't know if it's just me but I am really impressed with De Jon Watson.
    No, it's not just you. I react similarly when I see statements of his quoted.

    58 But in this day and age we all have access to the numbers. What the Dodger officials can provide like no other is the subjective stuff. The fact that these kids are the cream of the minor-league crop - Mario Alvarez notwithstanding - means, I think, that their actual performance is already understood to be of sufficient quality.

    2008-01-16 20:39:01
    64.   Sam DC