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Shawn Green Retires
2008-02-28 07:36
Former Dodger four-homer hero Shawn Green told Mark Hale of the New York Post Wednesday that he has retired. "I had planned on retiring at the end of this contract," the 35-year-old Green said yesterday in a phone conversation. "If something where I could live at home popped up, then I would have had to take that under consideration. But I still don't know what I would have done." That decision never really had to be made. The affable Green, a former member of the 30-30 club who once smashed four homers in one game, wrapped up his tenure with the Mets last season. He said yesterday that a bunch of teams then showed interest in him, but he indicated that he simply wasn't willing to be that far from his California home. "There was some real solid interest from maybe six or seven teams," he said. "A lot of teams were pretty far across the country." Green, who is building his dream house in Irvine with his family (wife Lindsay and daughters Presley and Chandler), added, "I wanted to stay here with my family. Not travel around the country anymore. I enjoyed playing a lot. I enjoyed New York. But for me, it was time to be home." For the Dodgers, Green OPSed .876 in 798 games, hitting 162 homers and slugging .510. Defying those who said he needed Gary Sheffield in the lineup to protect him, he hit 42 homers with an adjusted OPS of 154 in the 2002 season. He is fifth all-time in OPS+ among Los Angeles Dodgers (minimum 2,000 plate appearances), behind Gary Sheffield, Mike Piazza, Reggie Smith and Pedro Guerrero. Of course, his most memorable game was May 23, 2002, when he had a single, a double, four homers and seven RBI in six at-bats. That was part of an astonishing seven-game stretch when he went 17 for 32 with 10 homers. Green was a frequent subject of interest in the early days of Dodger Thoughts - most notably as the subject of the article that first put this site on the map, "The Shawn Green of Old Will Not Return", which described how difficult it would be for Green to recover his power after his labrum injury. Green had slugged .510, .588, .472, .598 and .558 in the seasons before his injury; though he hit 28 homers in 2004, he never slugged above .477 again. Other articles focused on his declining speed ("Green's Light Goes Red") and his prolonged 2004 slump ("Michael Eisner, Meet Shawn Green"). But though I wish the Dodgers and Green had faced up to his declining play sooner, I always liked Green. It's probably been a couple years since I've even thought about it, but remember the joy of waiting to see him cross home plate at Dodger Stadium after a home run and toss his batting gloves to a kid in the stands? He was a good guy who, for a significant stretch, could slam the ball. I hope, as he settles down in Irvine, he isn't shy about coming by Dodger Stadium for a game and getting some well-deserved applause from the fans - including the daughter of one reader here in particular. * * * The Dodgers play their exhibition opener at 10:05 a.m. today. I believe the game is live on KABC 790 AM. The starting lineup is: Juan Pierre, LF
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"Somewhere, the late Wally Moon, who became famous for dunking opposite-field home runs over the screen, is taking aim."
http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2008/02/worst_day_everheartbreaki.php
This is utter folly. How can Loney be hitting so high in the lineup, he's still wet behind the ears.
Nice gig if you can get it. Retired at 35, multi - millions should be in the bank, great family but why Irvine. Of all the places in Southern California why pick Irvine to build you dream home? Fear of fires?
I hear the reports of Wally's demise are greatly overexaggerated.
I remember one of the old Laguna Beach episodes where one of the girls, I think Cavalerri, says " Uh see how she wears her lipstick? That's so Mission Viejo!"
South Orange County snobbery at it's finest.
(I have family in Mission Viejo)
17 Probably live box scores on MLB.com, I'd think. You also should be able to listen online:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index.jsp#20080228
(Not sure if you have to pay for that yet...)
http://tinyurl.com/3d9rf3
Congratulations to Brick, NJ for being the winner!
My condolences go out to St. Louis.
I had a friend who smacked into a lamp post with his car one night in Mission Viejo and one of the big bells that adorn most of the street lights in the city, fell on his hood. His car was trashed by the initial accident anyway but that was just insult to injury!
So I'm looking at the KABC 790 scheduled programming for the day and the game is not on there. Does anyone know for sure if it's being broadcast somewhere?
damon, cf
jeter, ss
giambi, dh
a-rod, 3b
matsui, lf
posada, c
Cano, 2b
melky, rf
doug m, 1b
Such a shame about that labrum injury. I was hoping he'd become the iconic Dodger slugger of the '00s. I guess he is, sort of, but only due to a lack of competition for the title.
vr, Xei
I'd never move to Orange County for a dream home either, but each to their own.
Sorry for the long link, but a friend knew Justin.
Matt Kemp batting eighth, I am, I am
When I get a pitch the ball goes wham,
But the guy hitting seventh married Mia Hamm
Now he's batting ahead of me
It's just like Grady's still around
I'm the number eight batter, Matt I am,
Matt Kemp batting eighth, I am
Irvine may be safe, but there's a criminal who has fleed the jurisdiction:
http://griddle.baseballtoaster.com/archives/913989.html
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Hard to believe anyone here can actually lampoon a Herman Hermits song. As an 8 year old I was always on the lookout for Mrs Browns lovely daughter. I am both embarrassed and proud to say that my brothers had the English versions of those albums. Funny things were purchased when you were 10-13.
I'm thinking of boycotting the city for the rest of my life.
Culver City could join Fontana on my list.
"Pitchers and catchers report in _____ days" PLEASE can people stop saying this. It used to be charming, now it's just dreadful. Like sitting in detention with the kid next to you whispering "only 2 hours to go...
1 hour and 15 minutes...
only 45 minutes left (!)
It seems like the World Series just ended a few weeks ago. We haven't had to wait long enough to absolutely THIRST for it like a good fiend should. It's like having Christmas every 3 months. It's upon us too easily, too quickly. In all seriousness, it would be best if the season were shortened by a month and begin May 1st.
Maybe it's because I live in California now instead of the east coast, where the season is unmistakably broken up by winter. Here, because of the weather, it feels like the SEASON of baseball never ends.
So if I go to Culver City, I'm going to be chased around by an even paler version of Tilda Swinton?
I've been getting lost in Culver City since Hector was a pup.
By the way, your last True Blue essay was incredibly touching, and caught a mood I've felt for awhile now. Well done.
Since that list of cities with confusing street patterns did not include Tokyo, I believe the list is deficient.
When you take a cab in Tokyo, you're supposed to give the drive directions on where you want to go unless it's to a major hotel.
The buildings are numbered in the order in which they were built (for the most part). So 1-2-3 won't necessarily be sequential or even on opposite sides of the street.
And some of the subways have up to 50 different exits to the street and if you don't go out the right one, you may end up walking in circles in the rain for 45 minutes trying to find your hotel while dragging your suitcase behind you.
MLBAM - don't make go Andrew S. on you!
Thanks
When I was Eight I would have argued to the death that HH was better then the Who. By 10 I had realized how stupid I was at 8. Every two years I feel the same way. By the time I'm 70 I'm going to be very wise but not as wise as I will be when I'm 72.
Driving down to San Diego the other day we turned West at Del Mar and found some round - a - bouts or whatever they are called. I love those things. They were my favorite part of driving in France. Anything to get rid of lights is a good thing.
I only heard the last play where Nomar threw out the last batter on a grounder to third.
Furcal hits a standup triple to right
Martin strikes out swinging
Kent flys out to right
s far as openers getting booed off, I saw Sonic Youth get booed off the stage twice opening for Neil Young. The second time was the massive Bridge School Benefit. I tried to respond in kind by booing Don Henley off the stage, but I couldn't find many takers.
First concert - Earth Wind & Fire at the Fabulous Forum.
Embarassing Concert - I don't know, Jacksons Victory Tour at Dodger Stadium.
Fist concert was Rush with Tommy Shaw (of Styx fame) opening.
If I told you who was playing for the Braves, you would say who are those guys.
Not exactly the A-team for the Braves today.
Was that at the Coliseum?
Best was "Bob Hope Asia Tour".
Embarassing: Cyndi Lauper in Germany mid-80's. My girlfriend just wanted to have fun.
Loney fists one into CF for a single, first and second.
Nomar flies out to right.
Kemp lines a single to right, Jones is held at 3B, bases loaded. (trend to watch, Dodgers currently 1-4 RISP)
Mark Sweeney pinch hits for Johnson, groundball single to left field, Jones scores. Loney was held at third and Matt Kemp is thrown out at 3B, appparently (who knows why) not seeing Loney already at 3B.
Pierre grounds (again) to first.
1 run, 3 hits, walk, no errors, 2 left.
Last: Ben Harper at the Santa Barbara Bowl 2005
I haven't been to many concerts.
Where's the open thread for the first Spring training game?
Martin got hit on the hand in his first appearance at the plate? Any sort of season ju-ju attach to this event?
KABC, XM 176 for your listening pleasure.
Ground out to short
Fly out to CF
Fly out to Kemp
Trip out! My co-worker and I were discussing that very concert yesterday! Apparently she was at that show and had the same feeling you did, she wanted to see Prince.
The whole reason we were even talking about it is because our IT guy, who we subcontract, was just telling us how he finished wiring Prince's LA house last weekend and that he and his partner were invited to Prince's Oscar after party. He didn't have time to get into details about the party but he did say that Prince is TINY and that he looks GREAT for being as old as he is. I believe his exact words were, "he looks just like he did in 1984."
Sorry to bore, but just found that amazingly coincidental about the initial concert.
cupped off the stage.
Best: X at the Roxy 1983. Blasters at Hong Kong Cafe 1980ish. Top Jimmy and the Rhythm Pigs numerous times at Cathay de Grande.
Tanyon Sturtze!
He's in the white pages!
105 I saw Joan Jett open for Robert Plant (might have to put that in the embarrassing file) in around 1988/9. I think most people there would concede that she was way better than the headliner. Actually, if I can submit a combined entry for most embarrassing - I saw both the Robert Plant and Jimmy Page solo tours that year.
Last...Cold War Kids at The Wiltern....first time I ever fainted in my life, and it wasn't because of the show (boring)...hadn't eaten all day, and for some reason just went black...
Furcal strikes out swinging
Martin gets an infield single off the pitcher
Kent with Martin running, flies out to short right field, Martin can't get back in time (he was on second when Francouer caught the ball) is doubled off.
http://www.beloblog.com/Pe_Blogs/prosports/2008/02/about_running_through_stop_sig.html
"Wow. On a day in which they honor Maury Wills, this happens. Bases loaded with Matt Kemp on first, James Loney on second. Mark Sweeney singles to left field, scoring Jones. Third base coach Larry Bowa holds up the stop sign, and Loney stops at third. Kemp rounds second with a head of steam and probably with his head down. He slides into headfirst third, where Loney is, so Kemp is called out. After the following inning, Bowa caught up with Kemp coming off the field from his right field position and the two spoke."
Elaborate . . .
114 To tie a few thoughts together, I saw Prince at the Hollywood Bowl after not eating all day. It was Yom Kippur.
Ground out to first
Ground out to third
Fly out to right
BTW I'm 48 years young.
First "real" concert I can remember was Eric Clapton's Slowhand Tour and what was so impressive about it was Muddy Waters opened (I'd never heard of him then) and totally blew everyone away. Really he was transcendent. I've always thought Clapton was a major dude for following that. And believe me, he knew that he was the student in the situation.
(for the Dave Chappelle fans.)
124 I'm sure its more embarrassing in my case since it was just nostalgia for something I wasn't around to experience in the first place.
Please don't consider me too obtuse for asking.... :)
Last Concert: Weezer/Foo Fighters
Lamest Concert: Can't think of any, maybe going to see a Swing Band open for Manhattan Steamroller. I can't remember the name of the band, but they were awesome. The lame part is that I saw them a month earlier in a small venue for $5, than I paid $25 to see them open at Universal Amphitheater...not conducive for dancing. Man, what was their name...
Okay, after 5 minutes of looking "Big Bad Voodoo Daddy"
Now I can be sane again
I always wondered if Traffic toured, they seemed like such a studio band.
Hard to believe but my best show was in Irvine.
Jane's Addiction
Social Distortion
X
I was not quite 30, went by myself, had to be sometime around 88, Exene was pregnant and sang on a stool. I think it was the combination of all 3 bands and being lucky enough to have seats next to some crazy kids and then having a hot punked out babe hit on me after the show.
That last part would easily make the concert awesome
Loney flies out to right
Nomar singles to left, LaRoche enters the game as a pinch runner for Nomar.
Kemp hits a slicing ground rule double to right (a fan probably touched it), second and third. Wills mentions (he's on the radio) that he has not covered watching the runner ahead of you yet with Kemp, he will do so tomorrow.
Delwyn Young pinch hits for Myers, strikes out.
Best (tie): Warren Zevon, Louisville, KY, and Jackson Browne. Long Island, NY. Dire Straits wandered on stage and joined Browne.
Most dangerous: Neil Young in Louisville. When he got sick, a riot broke out.
Most recent concert: The New Pornographers.
Best concert: Not sure, but maybe Rufus Wainwright's Judy Garland show at the Hollywood Bowl.
Most embarrassing concert: freshman year of college: Spin Doctors.
LAT can also mean LA Times. It's all about context.
That's embarrassing, and it reminds me, I saw the Dead 30 times. I'm honestly not sure whether I should be embarrassed about that or not. I'm downright ashamed about the times that I saw other touring jam bands. Phish - thankfully only once. Blues Traveler several times. Widespread Panic once or twice, though I actually kind of liked them.
another Brave made an out (stepped out for a moment)
Ground out to short.
Its an official game. 1-0 Dodgers
Best (Tie): King's X & Pearl Jam , '94 Memphis TN and Guided By Voices, Nashville '04?
Last: Yo La Tengo, Nashville '08 - I recorded and mixed the audio for a local arts TV station
Delwyn is at 2b!
Jawbreaker! That's what I'm talking about. There is a band that never found their following but RULED...I thought anyway.
Should have mentioned I saw them numerous times in the early to mid 90's.
On the other hand, tickets were cheap.
Last concert: Billy Joel at MGM Las Vegas (2007)
Best concert: Incubus at Hard Rock Las Vegas (2007)
Best all day concert: Metallica, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, among others at the LA Coliseum (2003)
Worst dragged to by (ex)girl friend concert: Stevie Nicks at Ceasers Las Vegas (2007)
Furcal grounds out
Martin strikes out.
Sounds like a bunch of guys are about to call it day.
Last Concert: Pearl Jam Cincinnati 2006
Best Concert: One of the half dozen Eric Clapton shows over the last 25 years.
Last concert: Coachella (Rage Against the Machine's night) last April.
Best concert: Inland Invasion '05. The show featured Beck, 311, Weezer and Oasis.
I guess some people don't like Randy Newman, but he really delivered for me.
I even like his Disney songs. In "Toy Story 2," when they play his song, and the little girl leaves the doll in the Goodwill bin, I cry every single time.
Agree with everything you said. I would go in a heartbeat if they ever reunited. Bivouac is one of my favorite albums.
One of my most memorable concerts (if you don't like punk music I wouldn't read on) was probably in 1994 or 95 at Cal State Dominguez Hills and it was a two day affair. Everybody that was anybody in punk at that time played over the course of two days, some of the really good bands played both days. This was a precursor to the whole warp tour thing that goes on now. A quick rundown of some of the bands that played: Rancid, NOFX, Pennywise, Guttermouth, Voodoo Glow Skulls, Face to Face, Lagwagon, Assorted Jellybeans, Bad Religion, Sublime, No Doubt (they were kinda cool once upon a time) Dance Hall Crashers.....Being a punk teenager at the time, it was awesome.
I'm proud to say I don't really have an embarrassing concert experience, though if I'd been old enough to see Electric Light Orchestra, I would've, and that would be one.
Last: Neil Young, Tom Waits, etc., at the most recent Bridge School Benefit.
Best: One of the many Springsteens. Probably Hartford on 5/8/2000, where I lucked into front row seats.
It was a very long night.
173 Ha! That is funny.
"Mr. Blue Sky" is the best Beatles song that the Beatles didn't write.
Yes, but if I could at least understand the songs, I could criticize them.
Instead it sounded like the concert was performed Mr. and Mrs. Boomhower.
Okay, I guess I'm willing to admit I've seen Reba McEntire.
Martin seems to be pressing based on his performance today. Time to give the the veteran Bennet more playing time.
last; wilco in san diego
best; pink floyd, oakland 1995
I wanted to go to a Bjork concert last May, but it happened to be the same day as my graduation, and I had family related things to do. I also wanted to see Stereolab in 2006 I think. Unfortunately none of my friends had ever heard of Stereolab.
I don't really listen to the same music that my friends do.
I must be one of the few people to have both Electric Light and Cinematic Orchestras in his iPod.
last concert- garth brooks at staples, awesome
next concert- rascal flatts next sat in vegas.
First: 1984, The Cure, Arlington Theater, Santa Barbara
Best: 1998 Qi Qin, Pasadena
Runner Up: 2000 Red Hot Chille Peppers, Irvine CA.
Worst: 1986, Flock Of Seagulls, 6 Flags Magic Mountain (it was free though, and wow the hair!)
Go Dodgers!
vr, Xei
Has since showed up on tour at OzzFest and on the soundtrack to Saw IV. If you like hard stuff, check them out on YouTube or iTunes.
Worst concert: Not really a bad one, but I did see Gallagher live in college. Does that count?
The first concert I attended was to see Bruce Springsteen at the Sports Arena when he was on "The River" tour.
It's been downhill since.
I also went to a concert last year when the LA Phil performed all of "Tristan und Isolde." It wasn't staged, but there were singers.
That rocked.
I do like them but not even close to the level of love I have for Jawbreaker. It's almost like people who were lucky enough to see Operation Ivy that like Rancid but they don't quite feel the same way about Rancid that they do about Op Ivy. That's my poor analogy of my feelings for Jets to Brazil vs, Jawbreaker.
I lied, my worst was seeing Devo perform at the end of the Run Hit Wonder 10K at the Coliseum in 2004. Reeeeeally awful.
First, I feel for you, Xei. Second, I always thought the Magic Mountain Concert series was just a joke from "This is Spinal Tap". I did not know it actually existed.
My big brother worked at a record store with a Ticketmaster location, meaning he had first dibs when tix went on sale. He got us front-row center seats. He also won a record-label promotion, getting us a limo to/from said concert.
Who was in concert you ask? None other than Michael Jackson. Embarrassing? No way. Not in 1988.
BBD? That is awesome. I really don't think I have too many embarrassing concerts. Well, maybe REM (just wasn't great live) but Luscious Jackson and Purple Dinosaurs (that might be made up) opened for them.
Did you wear a rain coat to that concert?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jon_heyman/02/28/dodgers.torre/index.html
I actually thought this was a pretty good column. Didn't love all of it, but it's got a little perspective.
vr, Xei
Fortunately, you can do much better for kid music. My entry for "most recent concert" is Dan Zanes and friends, which I'd imagine is familiar to some of the other parents.
Yeah I've seen them. Much better studio musicians than in person. Stipe seemed completely disinterested.
They were at least better than De La Soul who played the next year.
For example: Madonna. Is it cool to like her, uncool to like her, or ironically cool to like her? I'm so confused!
Uh-oh. Ned has begun to talk about himself in the third person.
As I had hoped when this whole thing started more than two years ago, you'll begin to get more contributors to the blog, including Team Travel Manager Scott Akasaki and General Manager Ned Colletti.
...
It won't be live, but if you have a question for Ned, please direct it to him in the comments. I'll compile all the questions and he'll pick about 10 to answer every other week or so.
he sounds like he ate rocks
That is funny but also true! That's always been one of the appealing aspects of Jawbreaker to me. Blake's voice. I feel the same about The Mighty Mighty Bosstones and Dickie Barrett.
Don't know if you like the Bosstones or are even in California but they are reuniting and playing on Saturday with the Pie Tasters and the old lead singer of the Dropkick Murphys new band. It's gonna be sweet. I haven't seen the Bosstones since 96, I would say.
I also saw Purple Dinosaur Jr. and my ears still hurt 15 years later.
I think I saw some sort of embarrassing disco concert when I was little, as my dad was into that sort of thing for a little while, but have repressed memory of it.
We have Wiggles in the house but I'm not enthusiastic about them.
Our latest is the They Might Be Giants "Here Come the 1-2-3s" DVD and CD. That's getting worn out in house and car, respectively.
Another good one is Trout Fishing in America
http://www.troutmusic.com/
It was pretty bad. I was not there the following year, but I did see Tone Loc rapping on the route to passers by. One of the most unintentionally funny scenes of my entire life as it was towards the end of the race on a hot day and there were no spectators around him. Like watching Stallone act out a Rambo scene on a street corner. Bizarre.
Well, no. I don't really wonder.
Now doesn't one of the guys from MMBT announce "Jimmy Kimmel Live?" I thought that was very cool too.
You said this is 198
i've been to an r. kelly concert also. put his personal life aside he is a great musician.
I made the raincoat comment in reference to your "personal life aside" comment. You know how he got busted for that sex tape where he peed on somebody? I was making a joke (a bad at that) about how he might pee on his audience too...
Sorry for the confusion and the joke :(
PS: MMBT, also from Boston.
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I like ELO period. It's not lame or ironic at all. Note that I am in my 20s.
223 Man, I really wish I could have seen those Pavement guys. Maybe one day they will reunite.
223 I'm so jealous of you underdog.
My uncle told me a couple years back about how he's been resigned to whatever his kids choose. He said he was happy when they chose Avril Lavigne instead of Britney Spears.
I'm certainly not losing sleep over the fact that my kids like things I don't like. Believe me, my kids have gotten plenty of exposure to entertainment that isn't USDA choice. That doesn't mean I can't have an opinion.
This year, nothing is being streamed at all, as the site is experiencing "technical difficulties" which prevented me from listening to today's game.
Plus, there's no reason to avoid kids music. There's kids music out there that is plenty good to listen to.
236 Bosstones are playing at the Avalon in Hollywood this Sat. at 8pm. Tickets are around 25 bones still available I think.
when i was 4 my sister was 8 she had a huge thing for "new kids on the block" so guess who got drug along? luckily i remember no details about that night, unluckily my sister likes to remind me of it way too often.
Best: Rage in Chicago this last year
Latest: Foo Fighters
Although the most enjoyable "concert" might have been Robin Williams at the Universal Ampthitheater, non-stop laughter.
Some could say Madonna's Like a Virgin Tour would be embarassing but it was good.
I hung around once after some game and saw the "Beach Boys" and John Stamos sat in with them, now that might be embarassing.
The worst I remember was, sorry Molly, Tori Amos. I seriously think she was on muscle relaxants or her blood sugar was like zero. I was really aggrivated because I took a date and we both hated it because we had high expectations.
Richard Thompson at Ella Guru's was probably my best. That was Ashley Capps' place in Knoxville. (Bonaroo producer). I have tickets for like a show every week for months. There'd be people like Koko Taylor, Buddy Guy, Melissa Etheridge, Doc Watson, John Lee Hooker, The Cheiftans, all in a row.
Gurnick will probably criticize for his lack of aggressiveness.
The day "Evil Empire" came out, Tower Records stores in soCal had a promotion that the first 100 people that bought the album got a free ticket to see Rage at Cal State Dominguez Hills. My friend and I stood in line all night and were numbers 25 and 26. We went to the concert a week later and it was INSANE. There were only 2000 or so people there TOTAL. Rage played on one end of the gigantic bicycle track and a huge pit comprised of just about everyone there took up less than a quarter of the entire inner circumference of the track. I had never seen them live before and was blown away at how awesome they were. Easily one of my top 3 concerts ever.
{tying two threads together:} Wasn't there a De La Soul character called "Delwyn"?
No wait, that was Derwin. Frequently referred to in some of their songs.
Did you get tired or busy at work? Your inning recaps are the only thread to the game for those of us who can no longer stream internet radio at work.
http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/images/2008/02/27/VTEcZGWe.jpg
Frank McCourt
and Python's Eric Idle.
Now in to pitch, Brian Shackelford is the latest NRI, Eric Hull did pitch the 8th with no harm done.
1st batter got on board on an error by NRI John Lindsay, who is now playing first.
2nd batter popped up to LaRoche
Tyler Flowers hits a 2 run homer to LF (Ethier is playing there)
Fly out to Repko (CF)
Foul out to Lindsay.
2 runs, 1 hit, 1 error, none left, 4-2 Braves
i'd be surprised if anyone gets it.
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