He did NOT say that you can't win in California. That would be factually nonsensical.

Face up to yourselves.

It IS laid back here. The world did not just make up this notion out of the blue.

Firstly, there is more to do out here than to focus on your favorite team.

And the constant sun DOES affect your mind. I know, I lived half my live in stormy, grey, icey east, and half out here. It's hard to explain, but the climate has a mellowing effect. This is only natural.

You think your fast highways are proof that you're NOT laid back? Wrong. There is a difference. You can weave in-and-out of traffic and cut people off out here, and no one honks at you. Because you just go with whatever. Back east, it's the same driving BUT you WILL get honked at. Meaning easterners care enough to get angry, and further, to demonstrate their anger. Same with the sports fans.

I am originally from the east coast. And have worked in both industrial and office environments. And it's true, Californian's DO NOT have the same work ethic. Many more people would continue at their desk after 5:00, and on weekends. I don't even have a problem with that CA that way. You appreciate me-time and pleasure more. Which to my mind is healthier than the "workaholic" task oriented mentality of easterners. And at a certain economic level out here, no one does yard work. This is not all about cheap CA yard labor either. You do your own yard work back east because it's the Moral thing to do. Work is a spiritual good back east.

The fans in LA do not get as emotionally involved. If you could measure decibel and movement levels at concerts and sporting events, I guarantee they'd be MUCH lower levels in LA. If that's not a reflection of laid-back, then I don't know what is.

I hate going to concerts now that I live out here. You all are sooooo not involved. You lack the blood, bile and anger to truly ROCK! It's just not in you.

I do not think any of this matters at all to wins and losses.

And as for Derek saying "I don't believe it, but a lot of people say..." What makes anyone here think this is a phony statement? It can just be plainly truthful. I lot of people DO say it. Because it's true.

And even if he does think it, maybe he was being decorous. Why would he want to encur that wrath of such sensitive people if he didn't have too. No "guts"? At least he had the guts to even broach the subject. What other player in sport has the guts to "put down" the home fans. Derek Lowe, that's who.

For most of the period in question, the Mets, the Red Sox, the Celtics, the Knicks, the Nets, the Jets ... they've all struggled to win titles. Atmosphere is so far down the list of reasons, it doesn't really bear mentioning.

That's classic. I am going to pin that quote up on my fridge at home. I'm not sure why, but it's not every day you read something like that.
vr, Xei

Frip, death metal fan?

understood Jon. I've had my lunch now and ready to move on.

Also, Arizona and Anaheim recently won World Championships. And guess what, when the Dodgers won championships in the 80s, it was still sunny in Southern California.