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*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

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*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
Total: $6,955,000

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*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
*$2,500,000 Andre Ethier
*$600,000 Matt Kemp
*$600,000 James Loney
*$500,000 Angel Berroa
*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
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*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
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Lucas May
Xavier Paul

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Whoo Boy, It's Early
2008-05-01 06:56
by Jon Weisman

Dodgers at Marlins, 9:10 a.m.

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Stay in school. Don't do drugs. And for goodness sake, children, wear your contact lenses.

Ex-Dodger Mark Hendrickson has overcome his own ambivalence about having correct vision when he takes the mound - a revelation he can now pass on to his younger Florida teammates, writes Tony Jackson of the Daily News:

The veteran left-hander, who signed a one-year, $1.5 million contract with the Marlins on Jan. 16 after the Dodgers non-tendered him, underwent Lasik surgery over the winter to sharpen his eyesight. He expected the biggest difference to come at the plate, but there is no question his pitching has benefited more than he ever thought it would.

"I'm just not having to focus as hard," Hendrickson said. "The doctor said something about how nice it would be for me not to have to put in contact lenses anymore. But I told him, 'I don't wear contacts.' I guess I had always just adjusted. My mom told me it was always a hassle when I was a kid to get me to wear glasses or contacts." ...

"I really like being over here," said Hendrickson, who isn't slated to pitch in this series. "I enjoy the fact that I have a leadership role, and I hope I can help some of the younger guys. I learned a lot the last couple of years. Obviously, I went through a lot of things, a lot of ups and downs. But I think I grew as a pitcher and as a player."

The only thing that could undermine this heartwarming tale: Hendrickson's ERA was actually higher this April (3.68 in 36 2/3 innings) than it was last April (1.66 in 21 2/3 innings).

  • General manager Ned Colletti is stopping in Jacksonville on his way back from the Dominican Republic to watch James McDonald and Clayton Kershaw pitch today and Friday, writes Jeff Elliott of the Florida Times-Union.

  • Dialing for information about the Dodgers' recent hot streak? Over the past week, the Dodger team on-base percentage is .411.

  • Comments (614)
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    2008-05-01 07:13:53
    1.   D4P
    Dialing for information about the Dodgers' recent hot streak? Over the past week, the Dodger team on-base percentage is .411

    Typical blogger explanation.

    Real baseball fans need look no further than Joe Torre, who's winning ways are finally being bought into by his players.

    In all seriousness, it can't be much longer before Plaschke-types start praising Torre for the magical turn-around in the team's performance.

    2008-05-01 07:24:19
    2.   D4P
    who's winning ways
    whose winning ways
    Hu's winning ways
    Horton hears a Who
    2008-05-01 07:35:53
    3.   madmac
    Sure plays a mean pin ball!
    2008-05-01 07:38:37
    4.   D4P
    2008 outfield:

    LF: .250/.345/.290/.635
    CF: .173/.289/.255/.545
    RF: .352/.392/.593/.984

    2008-05-01 07:39:42
    5.   Daniel Zappala
    May 1st and a half inch of snow on the ground this morning. Not a lot, but enough that if this was South Pasadena grown men would be in their yards building snowmen.
    2008-05-01 07:46:43
    6.   Marty
    If that were South Pasadena, I'd be in a foot of snow where I am.
    2008-05-01 07:48:48
    7.   StolenMonkey86
    4 - Ethier magically plays better to make up for Pierre playing over Kemp?
    2008-05-01 07:49:31
    8.   taikwanboe
    4 - I may be thinking too far ahead here, but has LaRoche ever played LF? With DeWitt now owning an OPS+ of 99, I'm thinking if he keeps it up it will be difficult for Andy to unseat him at 3B. Pierre finally appears to be more or less benched despite his huge contract and the fact that the Dodgers got exactly what they should have expected out of him last year. I have to imagine that if Jones continues stinking up the joint, Torre would be similarly willing to sit him in favor of someone who can actually hit. Anyone think that a LaRoche/Kemp/Ethier outfield (with DeWitt continuing to man 3B) is a possibility?

    Of course I'm talking late in the season here. If Torre is at all willing to bench Jones, I'm guessing it wouldn't be until sometime late in July.

    2008-05-01 07:49:40
    9.   D4P
    Granted, I don't pay much attention to the news, but I'm just now learning that the Reno area has experienced 344 earthquakes in the past week.
    2008-05-01 08:00:15
    10.   bhsportsguy
    8 Nope, Andruw Jones will play everyday barring injury for the Dodgers.

    There were two reasons why the Dodgers signed Jones, one was for his power, 1 home run a month, not quite what they wanted, the other was for his defense.

    The best defensive outfield the Dodgers have right now is Ethier, Jones and Kemp.

    2008-05-01 08:00:32
    11.   StolenMonkey86
    8 - If that happened, I would love to see Ned try to convince McCourt not to fire him.

    "We didn't waste $81,000,000, we spent $81,000,000 as insurance."

    2008-05-01 08:03:36
    12.   regfairfield
    8 If it were Nomar with a 99 OPS+, you would beg for LaRoche.
    2008-05-01 08:05:26
    13.   cargill06
    12 i think going into the year we'd have all been happy with 100 ops+ out of our 3b regardless of who is was, well actually i'd have preferred laroche becuase of defense.
    2008-05-01 08:09:10
    14.   Bob Timmermann
    Today's BobMax comments question of the day:

    Which way would you go today to get to Farmers Market from South Pasadena?

    A) South on the 110, west on the 10, north on Fairfax

    B) South on the 110, north on the 101, south on Western

    Post your answers here standard text message rates apply.

    2008-05-01 08:09:50
    15.   bhsportsguy
    It'll be cold, cloudy, rainy and even snowy weekend in Denver, looks like they will be able to get games in but quite a contrast from Florida to Colorado for the Dodgers.
    2008-05-01 08:10:03
    16.   fanerman
    13 A healthy LaRoche will OPS+ a lot more than 100.
    2008-05-01 08:12:18
    17.   GS Allen
    The early start time is actually nice for us East Coasters.
    2008-05-01 08:12:34
    18.   bhsportsguy
    14 C. South on 110, exit 6th Street, take 6th to Fairfax, north on Fairfax.
    2008-05-01 08:12:43
    19.   cargill06
    16 he could, but i think it's safe to say that after last year with our 3b having an ops+ in the low 80's a 23% increase would be pleasing to most people without aquiring anyone
    2008-05-01 08:14:20
    20.   regfairfield
    You should also consider that OPS+ numbers are kind of screwed up early on, since they're based on league wide numbers that haven't stabalized yet. The bar for a 100 OPS+ is lower than it usually is right now.
    2008-05-01 08:18:41
    21.   Bob Timmermann
    18
    Maybe I remind you of street protests going on today in Downtown L.A.
    2008-05-01 08:20:37
    22.   Bumsrap
    If the Dodgers sign Castro I think it would be to get Hu more work in AAA but when Nomar and LaRoche come back, I would guess Nomar becomes the utility player and LaRoche gets a month to do his thing, and Hu/Castro and DeWitt go to Vegas.

    In that scenario, DeWitt got his month and LaRoche would get a month, and then the Dodgers would have to decide which finishes the season at third.

    2008-05-01 08:21:27
    23.   alex 7
    Would be easier to suggest a platoon if Dewitt wasn't .385 .448 .500ing lefty pitchers so far. Small sample size perhaps, but he sure keeps his shoulder in there well against southpaws.

    I'm thinking a couple of MLB bombs from LaRoche will cause Torre to find him playing time. Could he be a better back-up 1B than Sweeney? IF Nomar is traded or released (or accepts a role as a rover/pinch hitter), I would think Torre can find LaRoche 3 starts a week.

    2008-05-01 08:22:41
    24.   Bluebleeder87
    13 I've always felt La Roche's D was average at best.
    2008-05-01 08:23:07
    25.   Jon Weisman
    Furcal, SS
    Pierre, LF
    Kemp, CF
    Sweeney, 1B
    Martin, C
    Ethier, RF
    DeWitt, 3B
    Hu, 2B
    2008-05-01 08:24:33
    26.   Bob Timmermann
    25
    And Hiroki Kuroda as the Beaver.
    2008-05-01 08:24:35
    27.   D4P
    25
    Hilarious.
    2008-05-01 08:24:41
    28.   Kevin Lewis
    I almost typed that I liked that lineup before I saw Sweeney

    Well, I guess everyone needs a day off here and there

    2008-05-01 08:25:45
    29.   taikwanboe
    12 - This I freely admit, but it is more about Andruw Jones' lack of production than being impressed by DeWitt. I'm just trying to think of ways to field the best lineup, which at this point appears to be a matter of keeping incapable players on the bench more than anything else. If it were Nomar instead of DeWitt, I probably would have suggested the same idea. Although in fairness I would have waited until much later in the season to be convinced that Nomar was a viable option at third, so, shrug.

    And Ned is already on thin ice anyway. If Jones continues OPSing under .600 and the Dodgers miss the playoffs, he's probably axed. If benching Jones results in the Dodgers reaching the playoffs, it might buy Ned another year of breathing room, so why not?

    2008-05-01 08:25:49
    30.   MollyKnight
    25-So that makes how many different line-ups this year?
    2008-05-01 08:27:11
    31.   Jim Hitchcock
    49 I'm in Carson City, and the largest of the swarm has been 4.9. Ho hum.
    2008-05-01 08:28:18
    32.   Kevin Lewis
    Random street direction question:

    Does anyone know if there is a standard design for where the odd and even addresses are located on a given street?

    For example, are the odds always on the West/North side?

    I just thought this is something I should know if there is a standard way to numbering a street.

    2008-05-01 08:28:26
    33.   dzzrtRatt
    1 I'm not so sure the Plaschke-types would be wrong, if you extended Torre to mean the manager and coaches.
    2008-05-01 08:28:27
    34.   Bob Timmermann
    30
    There have been N - 1 lineups where N = the number of games played and today's.
    2008-05-01 08:28:50
    35.   D4P
    I can't fathom thinking that Sweeney should bat clean-up. I just can't.

    It's hard enough to fathom thinking Pierre should bat 2nd with Ethier batting 6th.

    2008-05-01 08:31:18
    36.   D4P
    33
    Plaschke-types would not be wrong if I extended Torre to mean "regression to the mean, and Torre finally realizing that Kemp should play everyday and Pierre should sit on the bench."

    Torre set himself up for initial failure followed by subsequent success. No doubt the MSM will fall for his ploy.

    2008-05-01 08:32:36
    37.   cargill06
    24 ya me too, but he looks like a gold glover next to nomar
    2008-05-01 08:41:05
    38.   delias man
    I can not get Gameday to work yet this season on Firefox... does anybody have a tip for me?
    2008-05-01 08:41:14
    39.   Howard Fox
    what little I have seen of DeWitt, LaRoche and Nomar at third, I would go with DeWitt...

    he is steady and improving at third, he is steady and improving at the plate, and he has gone a whole month without an injury giving us some stability...

    2008-05-01 08:41:28
    40.   Bob Timmermann
    32
    As for odd and even numbers, I would think that each city decides how it wants to set up its numbering system.
    I live at an even-numbered building and it's on the north side of an E-W street in South Pasadena. In L.A., I work on a building that has an even number, but it's on the south side of the street.

    Usually most cities have established their numbering system for buildings long before most of us have moved there. The person or persons laying out the city could use models like:
    1) the town where they grew up
    2) New York City
    3) making City Hall building #1 and moving on from there.

    There are streets in Los Angeles where many of the numbers start from much of the city like 1st Street and Main Street. But there's a different numbering system in places like the Valley, the Northeast, San Pedro, and Venice.

    South Pasadena, since it's a little city, doesn't use directionals on its streets. Pasadena does and uses Colorado and Fair Oaks as its zero points.

    All of the streets in the unincorporated parts of L.A. County are supposed to have a directional attached to them even if there isn't a corresponding street for the other side.

    Somebody here once got to sit down with a guy who worked for the County who was in charge of giving out numbers and names and found the discussion fascinating.

    2008-05-01 08:41:31
    41.   Gen3Blue
    I know I'm slows this morning, but it just hit me. Is that seriously the line-up? I guess so. I know Loney isn't that hot right now, but Grady used to bug me when he rested Kent and a couple of other solid hitters on the same day.
    2008-05-01 08:41:47
    42.   Howard Fox
    38 yes, stay away from the ponies
    2008-05-01 08:44:53
    43.   dzzrtRatt
    36 Nah, I give him a little more credit than that.

    The first 20 days of the season were a kind of extended spring training, to make up for time lost to China, Arizona and just him being new to these players.

    Day in day out, the value of Torre seems to be in his ability to get the younger players past their anxieties about their spot in the lineup so that when they're in the lineup, they're more likely to produce.

    But maybe my starting premise is different from yours. The "regression to the mean" idea suggests that no manager makes a difference, and that the manager's role is, itself, superfluous.

    I think that over the course of a long season with a team comprised of such a range of player types, a manager can influence individual performance. Not dramatically, but perhaps decisively, seeing as how "baseball is a game of inches."

    There's no proving it, but I don't think things would look as bright if Little were still the manager.

    (Which is not say batting Sweeney fourth makes any sense at all.)

    2008-05-01 08:45:20
    44.   Bob Timmermann
    38
    The only thing I can think is that it's a problem with Flash. If you can update that to the most current version, you shouldn't have any trouble.

    There's always the brute force solution of uninstalling and reinstalling Firefox.

    2008-05-01 08:46:54
    45.   Bumsrap
    With Colletti checking out Kershaw and McDonald, is it because he still wants to find a fifth starter or could he be thinking about a trade. If it is a trade, would it be for a great reliever, a third baseman, or what?

    With Schmidt, Loiaza, Park, Kuo, Kershaw and McDonald already in-house along with the first 4 starters, there are posibilities to move one or more of those 10 along with Pierre and Young and possibly LaRoche and DeWitt to tweak the team.

    2008-05-01 08:47:00
    46.   Gen3Blue
    17 I agree as long as DTV carries it, which apparently they will.
    2008-05-01 08:47:35
    47.   D4P
    the value of Torre seems to be in his ability to get the younger players past their anxieties about their spot in the lineup so that when they're in the lineup, they're more likely to produce

    1. What does this mean?
    2. What is this conclusion based on?

    2008-05-01 08:50:00
    48.   underdog
    Let's see, the Dodgers played a night game followed by a really early game, so we already KNEW there would be some changes in the lineup today, in fact we already knew that Sweeney was going to start today, yesterday. Loney hasn't had a day off all season. Jones hasn't done much lately except walk or K, so we also were kind of expecting he'd sit for Pierre today, too. And the fact that Martin is starting again instead of Bennett today should please people, but I guess not. Kent also pretty much will always rest on a day game after a night game.

    (Okay, we already know how I feel about Delwyn Young getting a start - I would like to see that. One of these days, I guess.)

    Sorry, I don't mean to sound grumpy here but I was kind of hoping that if the Dodgers could, you know, play a lot better, win 5 in a row, we could at least get a day off from harping on the line-up and comments like 1 .

    I probably just need coffee. But I guess my cup is already half full. I'm just gonna enjoy the game quietly today, win or lose.

    2008-05-01 08:51:35
    49.   delias man
    44 - thanks
    2008-05-01 08:53:47
    50.   Bob Timmermann
    A couple weeks ago, somebody asked what was the highest number of different lineups the Dodgers could use for their 8 non-pitchers.

    I had figured it out as combinations instead of permuatations.

    If the Dodgers keep the same 13 position players, the total number of different lineup combinations would be 51,891,840.

    Unless www.mathisfun.com lied to me.

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    2008-05-01 08:54:45
    51.   Kevin Lewis
    40

    Thanks, Bob. I figured it was worth asking in case I was missing the "system" this whole time. It is definitely frustrating when you are looking for the odd/even situation for a street, but you can't find any numbers on the buildings.

    2008-05-01 08:54:55
    52.   scareduck
    I guess I better hurry on my morning run!
    2008-05-01 08:57:00
    53.   D4P
    48
    "Sweeney starting" and "Sweeney starting and batting cleanup" are two separate issues.

    Seriously: there are 9 spots in the lineup. What kind of thought process leads someone to choose the #4 spot for Sweeney over the other 8 spots? I would just like to understand.

    2008-05-01 08:58:46
    54.   Bob Timmermann
    51
    I would suggest that when you're on a busy street and looking for an unfamiliar address, the best thing to do is drive very slowly on the street and make sudden stops and starts. It really makes you popular with fellow motorists.

    In Los Angeles, evens should be on the east and south. But I can't vouch for Venice. Bunch of effete laidback Westsiders!

    2008-05-01 08:59:09
    55.   cargill06
    53 i'm sure joe has a reason, and i don't think the reason is i think sweeney is our best power threat today. i just have no clue what his reasoning is.
    2008-05-01 08:59:35
    56.   cargill06
    i would like to see lindsay replace sweeney on the roster also
    2008-05-01 09:00:27
    57.   regfairfield
    56 Lindsey presents the exact same roster problems that Sweeney does.
    2008-05-01 09:00:28
    58.   D4P
    To clarify: I don't agree with the thought process that leads to Pierre batting #2, but at least I understand it.
    2008-05-01 09:01:17
    59.   JoeyP
    Its really too bad the Dodgers couldnt have realized that Kemp could play CF before signing Pierre.

    Playing Kemp in CF, with Pierre in LF---just intensifies what a dumb decision it was to sign Pierre at all.

    Even realizing Kemp could play CF before this season, may have kept the Dodgers from signing Druw as well.

    2008-05-01 09:01:27
    60.   StolenMonkey86
    What kind of thought process leads someone to choose the #4 spot for Sweeney over the other 8 spots?

    cleanup is a PVL spot, and not even Jim Tracy could put Juan Pierre there

    That's a guess. I have no idea.

    2008-05-01 09:01:41
    61.   LogikReader
    When mlb.com leads off with Dodgers Storm Into May with Five Straight, does that jinx it?
    2008-05-01 09:02:34
    62.   StolenMonkey86
    59 - Torre was also the first to try Ethier in CF. I really don't know why nobody ever tried that before.
    2008-05-01 09:02:37
    63.   JoeyP
    And the fact that Martin is starting again instead of Bennett today should please people, but I guess not

    Exact opposite here.
    If there's ever a game that the backup catcher should start, it's today.

    2008-05-01 09:04:20
    64.   cargill06
    57 i know but if you're going to waste a roster spot on that type of player isn't lindsay at least a better hitter?
    2008-05-01 09:05:09
    65.   D4P
    62
    Ethier probably doesn't "look like" a centerfielder to baseball traditionalists.
    2008-05-01 09:06:40
    66.   underdog
    Okay, I agree with you, Sweeney should not be in the cleanup spot, period. I agree on that one. Hopefully he'll make us look wrong. Or he'll look so bad they'll start giving Delwyn more playing time. Did I mention I want Delwyn to get more playing time?

    61 Yes.

    63 I would've liked to have seen that too (and Russell playing 3rd base!) though like other people here I don't have much faith in Bennett and as I pointed out last night I don't think Russell will ever sit, at least not for a great while, when Kuroda is starting. That's just the deal.

    --

    Where's my darned coffee? Waitress!

    2008-05-01 09:06:52
    67.   MollyKnight
    Now that we're in May, here are some April numbers for posterity:

    *At 137, the Dodgers scored the third most runs in the NL, and the sixth most runs in MLB.
    *At 107, the Dodgers tied with Atlanta for having given up the second fewest runs in the NL, and the fourth fewest in MLB.
    *Rafael Furcal was first in hits (43), runs (26), and doubles (12) in the NL. He was second in OBP (.462) and batting average (.381) and 4th in steals (7).
    *Chad Billingsley struck out 40 in 27.2 innings.
    *Russ Martin had an OBP of .439 (good enough for 5th in the NL). Ethier OBP'd .400, and the Dodgers as a team were third in the category at .360.

    I know I cherry-picked the good stats. But if you'd told me the above would be true back in March, I would have predicted we'd be in first place right now.

    2008-05-01 09:07:05
    68.   regfairfield
    64 It's debateable, but I'm leaning towards no. If a guy like that isn't even considered for a look, he probably has something terribly wrong with him that we don't know about.

    Or he could just really enjoy the PCL like Mitch Jones did.

    2008-05-01 09:07:38
    69.   Jon Weisman
    We have said over and over again that batting order hardly matters. If it makes Sweeney feel better to get to bat high in the lineup one time, I don't see the problem.
    2008-05-01 09:07:55
    70.   underdog
    64 We have no idea if he really is a better hitter in the majors. And he's certainly not a very good fielder. I like the idea, but I don't really see how he'd be much of an improvement...
    2008-05-01 09:09:15
    71.   underdog
    I mean, "I like the guy," not the idea. ;-)

    Did I mention I need coffee?

    Back later...

    2008-05-01 09:09:34
    72.   regfairfield
    62 Because he doesn't have enough range for center. He's not fast enough and his routes aren't good enough to make up for it.
    2008-05-01 09:12:42
    73.   ToyCannon
    Terry Tiffe on the other hand can play 1st and 3rd, and might be a better option then Sweeney for a bench guy and is certainly a better option then Lindsey. He's still hitting 484 after a month of at bats.
    Looking around the major leagues that deserves at least a 25th spot on someone's roster.

    69
    Maybe over 1000 simulated games it doesn't but for one game in Florida I'd rather have the slumping single hitting Sweeney batting 7th and either Martin, Ethier, or Kemp hitting cleanup.

    2008-05-01 09:13:09
    74.   D4P
    We have said over and over again that batting order hardly matters

    What is the probability that Torre believes batting order hardly matter? I would guess "Very close to zero".

    I think it's very likely that Torre believes batting order matters a lot, which makes "Why does Torre think Sweeney should bat cleanup?" a legitimate question.

    BTW: Do SABR-types believe that setting the lineup is the most important managerial duty and that the lineup doesn't matter...?

    2008-05-01 09:13:10
    75.   Gen3Blue
    Kid has a good breaking ball.
    2008-05-01 09:13:29
    76.   underdog
    Speaking of which, Cody Ross, playing centerfield for the Marlins.

    Bless you, gourmet instant coffee.

    2008-05-01 09:15:14
    77.   ToyCannon
    Iron Man has a 92% fresh rating at RottenTomatoes with the top critics and 94% overall.
    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/iron_man/?critic=creamcrop

    I don't remember seeing such a high rating for a SciFi/Comic Book movie before.

    2008-05-01 09:16:08
    78.   Marty
    gourmet instant coffee

    One of those terms should never be with the other two.

    2008-05-01 09:17:59
    79.   ToyCannon
    74
    I'm on board with D4P on this one. It isn't the lineup but the idea that Torre thinks this is an optimal lineup.

    Which also means that our cleanup hitter is going to do some damage today.

    Cody Ross has been as bad as A Jones this year without the sterling defense. When you lose time to AA your on thin ice.

    2008-05-01 09:18:00
    80.   regfairfield
    74 I know I do.
    2008-05-01 09:18:31
    81.   Bob Timmermann
    74
    Saying "SABR-types" is assuming that all members of SABR have some sort of monolithic way of thinking. They don't. And I've gone over this many, many, many, many times.

    And I really don't appreciate that you do this just to tick me off.

    SABR members are people like Trent McCotter who is a UNC freshman and specializes in finding obscure batting streaks from the 19th Century.

    It has guys like Dave Smith, who has developed Retrosheet, and all he just does is organize play-by-play data.

    It has people who can't believe the Dodgers left Brooklyn.

    It has people who spend all of their time studying the Negro Leagues.

    It has members who write books on the U.S. tour of the 1935 Tokyo Giants.

    It has people who are specialists on the Pacific Coast League in the 1950s.

    So you could ask all those people about lineup order and 95% of them will just shrug their shoulders and say "whatever."

    2008-05-01 09:18:39
    82.   Kevin Lewis
    76

    Bless you freshly ground cruz del sol from Intelligencia

    2008-05-01 09:19:04
    83.   fanerman
    77 Spider-Man 2 had 93% overall, 95% top. I'm surprised that Batman Begins "only" got 84% fresh and only 63% for top critics.
    2008-05-01 09:19:24
    84.   Eric Stephen
    59
    Torre was also the first to try Ethier in CF. I really don't know why nobody ever tried that before

    Do you mean in spring training? As far as I can tell, Ethier has never played an inning in CF in a major league game.

    2008-05-01 09:20:08
    85.   regfairfield
    79 I'm not sure about Ross' defense (it's probably not good since he rarely played center for us) but Amezega takes better routes than anyone in baseball in my opinion. He's not a terrible option for a team desperate for a center fielder.
    2008-05-01 09:20:13
    86.   underdog
    78 That is absolutely true. Except for Medaglia D'Oro Instant Espresso, which is a great quick pick me up.
    2008-05-01 09:20:33
    87.   underdog
    Uh oh, Hanley is hurt...
    2008-05-01 09:20:49
    88.   Bob Timmermann
    There are a lot of children at the game today. The Marlins must have invited half of South Florida's schools.
    2008-05-01 09:20:58
    89.   D4P
    81
    I didn't do that to tick you off. In fact, I deleted the "E" from the end of "SABR" specifically because I remembered that you didn't like it.

    What's a better way to say "people who are a lot more knowledgeable than I am about baseball stats and stuff" than "SABR-types"...?

    2008-05-01 09:21:59
    90.   ToyCannon
    81
    Isn't it really closer to 96%? I hate it when you fudge the numbers.
    2008-05-01 09:23:12
    91.   Eric Stephen
    85
    How is Amezega's IF defense? He seems like he could be a really valuable super utility guy at least, sort of a Chone Figgins-lite in perception.
    2008-05-01 09:23:12
    92.   D4P
    The beginning of this game has been paradoxically interesting and uneventful.
    2008-05-01 09:23:36
    93.   overkill94
    Come on people, if Torre actually thought Sweeney was a great player he'd have started before today. I'm sure it's just a nice consolation prize for being such a great PVL when he finally does get a start.
    2008-05-01 09:23:57
    94.   underdog
    88 Anything to keep the place from feeling like a mausoleum, I say.

    Seems like H Ramirez is okay, at least enough to come back out to the field. Maybe he just had hamstring tightness.