I will be surprised if Andy LaRoche ever becomes the (long-term) starting third baseman for the Dodgers.

So I'm not completely crazy? Cool. (451 , previous thread).

1 Based on what I read here yesterday, I'm now officially worried about his throws to first. He may well need more time in Vegas.

3
While being healthy is a necessary condition for LaRoche to become the starter, it's nowhere near sufficient. I'm pretty sure he's now firmly ensconced below Nomar and Dewitt on the depth chart, and it becomes more likely everyday that he'll be Betemitted.

I think if anything's clear from the first 32 games under Torre, it's that things change, again and again.

4 5 Having accepted the fact that Torre is a restless tinkerer, I sleep better. Nomar at any rate will be gone in October.

Nomar at any rate will be gone in October

But if Ned's still here, he'll just be replaced by another Mueller/Nomar/Hillenbrand clone.

Let's be honest, this was the way it was gonna be from the start..Ethier's hot start just put a kink in the plan.

7 - Wouldn't that describe DeWitt?

Wouldn't that describe DeWitt?

In 10-12 years.

Can an Ethier/Kemp platoon be that far off in the distance?

I suspect that Joe's the sheriff, not Ned, even if Ned survives Jones. And Blake DeWitt looks to me like his new Bernie Williams. Or at least Scott Proctor.

I'd rather watch an avg. Ethier than a hot Pierre

11

Which one plays the part of Willem Dafoe?

12 Or Scott Brosius

So much for Met's bloggers talking smack about sweeps.

And what an beautiful moment for DeWitt.

Dewitt is Torre's new Scott Brosius -- just younger and cuter.

LaRoche will be traded -- perhaps for another bullpen arm?

Ethier is staying put.

LaRoche will be traded -- perhaps for another bullpen arm?

AKA "Betemitted".

11 - I'm assuming we'll see Ethier start for Kemp this week. But that won't be the end of the changes. I don't think Pierre's spot in the lineup is permanent.

2008 EQAs (factors in stolen bases but not defense):

.301 Ethier
.291 Kemp
.290 Pierre

Until his hand is healthy and his throws to first not in the dirt, LaRoche would be hard to move.

The As might be willing to part with Saarloos, Embree, or Blanton in exchange for LaRoche.

Straight up!

I remember reading that Martin and Ethier used to carpool and were close friends. Now it seems like Martin, Loney, and Kemp are real close and I can't tell if Ethier, who is married, isn't as tight with Martin. And I wonder if DeWitt has made it into an inner circle of friends.

Andy is our 3rd baseman, he's not going anywhere. Let Dewitt, Hu, and Abreu battle it out for 2nd base. If Furcal leaves, then the fight is down to Blake and Tony and Hu gets SS.

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Last season I saw Martin, Ethier, and some friends going to dinner together down in Gas Lamp after we lost to the Pads. As a matter of fact, if I remember correctly, that was Cinco De Mayo, so it was 1 year ago.

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It won't be Saarloos. The A's outrighted him to Sacramento and he's not on the 40-man roster.

Now, Alan Embree is another matter.

I miss the D4P that was predicting World Series championships.

Things will change again

Flummoxed, I say.

Now, Alan Embree is another matter

LaRoche and Abreu for Embree. Book it.

I miss the D4P that was predicting World Series championships

I'm still here...

0 - But James Loney, watch your back.

I'm having visions of Nomar at 1st, DeWitt at 3rd, and an OF of Pierre, Andruw, and Ethier/Kemp. Shudder.

Certainly difficult to question some of these decisions based on the way everyone has played to date, but it could certainly lead to some bad decisions being made.

I think the Nomar thing works itself out though, once he comes back hitting .260 with bad defense. I really worry about LaRoche's future though.

Funny how complicated situations when you're losing are problems, while complicated situations when you're winning are not.

As long as we're winning, I'm not that concerned about the 3b logjam. DeWitt is holding down the job, pure and simple. If LaRoche presents a clear upgrade, great; if not, he can spend time in AAA building his case. (Nomar was supposed to be our supersub anyway.)

As for Pierre, I admit I was furious when I saw last night's lineup, but I have to give credit where it's due. Pierre was great. I don't know if Torre can keep up the pace of always playing the right "hot hand," but I have to give him some credit for our turnaround.

(Now if we could only get D. Young some at-bats . . .)

Ned should be spending all his energy trying to trade one of our four (Kemp, Ethier, Jones, Pierre) outfielders. The current situation is not far to Kemp and Ethier who are playing wonderful. The atmosphere can not be great in the club house which is the one reason the Dodgers claim to have brought in Torre. I can not imagine Ethier is happy sitting on the bench and watching Jones bat .160.

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On one hand, I can see Ned riding out the 4-outfielder thing for the entire season.

On the other hand, I can't see us repeating the 4-outfielder thing for all of next season as well. Something's gotta give.

0

Ethier to get some starts at 1B?

31 Short of a league championship, McCourt fires Ned and either Logan White or Brian Cashman DFAs Jones.

29 But LaRoche has built his case for the last three years now, there's absolutely nothing more he needs to do to justify starting over DeWitt.

Part of my point in 19 was that even with current his hot streak, Pierre still hasn't outperformed Ethier this season.

32 - That's what I was implying, though I don't have a clue whether he can field a ground ball, despite whatever practice he has had there.

Then there's the Martin gets a day off at first base scenario ...

Will Pierre steal Ethier's leftfield job? Will Nomar replace DeWitt? Will LaRoche be left behind in AAA? Will Loaiza block Kuo and Kershaw? Will Schmidt supplant Broxton? Will Meloan start or relieve? Will Brazoban bounce back? Will Greg Miller find the strike zone? Will Andruw Jones ever hit a ball squarely again?

Join us for all the questions and none of the answers on the next edition of Dodger Thoughts.

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Of course, we all know that Torre isn't looking at EQA. Torre's big thing seems to be that he believes Pierre and Ethier/Kemp bring something "different to the table", such that comparing their stats is mostly irrelevant.

Torre obviously thinks (and likes) that Pierre causes havoc for opposing pitchers with his speed and base-stealing threat.

34 Staying healthy would help. So would outperforming DeWitt. Listen, I'm a huge LaRoche supporter, but I can't ignore what DeWitt has done.

Torre said Garciaparra might need to complete a minor league rehabilitation assignment depending on how quickly he progresses. Is his spot as the everyday third baseman secure upon his return?

"He really didn't do anything wrong, he just got hurt," Torre said. "I think he certainly needs an opportunity to pick that up."

My emphasis.

38 - Of course we all know that he doesn't look at EQA. But Pierre is starting because he is hitting, not because he is annoying to pitchers.

I think Ned keeps his job if we make the playoffs even if we get swept again, at least for this year. Still, if I was a business man like McCourt I simply would not trust Colletti to spend any of my money with how Colletti pretty much wastes it.

Furcal's agent should be calling Ned every day trying to get an extension while the fool with the money is still on the job.

Torre gets bonus points for me for the following:

>>Torre said the Dodgers "need to get Andruw back on track." <<

Not "untracked." Yay, Torre!

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16 Btw, to be fair, it wasn't really Mets bloggers looking for a sweep, it was just a few commenters on their blogs. Which is different, as Buzz Bissinger hopefully knows by now. ;-)

39 But he's done the outperforming DeWitt thing. Plus as much as DeWitt has exceeded expectations, he's gotten incredibly lucky on balls in play. If he was BABIPing .208 like he should be, he'd be hitting .192/.279/.333. We'd be less impressed by that.

I have a hunch the days-off for Andruw are going to start being more and more frequent in the near future, so we'll be seeing the Ethier-JP-Kemp outfield more often.

James Loney's EQA right now is .251. Nomar will fail at third, just for the simple fact that he's atrocious over there. If DeWitt continues to own thirdbase, why wouldn't we think that Nomar could steal some time at first?

Also, just for fun, If Andruw Jones doesn't start hitting again and his next contract is an NRI, does he still make the hall of fame? Jim Rice looks like he will make it, and Jones at least has the sterling defensive reputation to go with it.

I think Nomar's value would be as a backup infielder, including first base, which he's proven he can play fairly decently. Which would seem to render Sweeney superfluous at that point, except Sweeney's a lefty off the bench. (And I'm not actually someone who has thought we should get rid of Sweeney; I think having a reliably experienced pinch hitter off the bench, one of the best there's been, is valuable, but at this point he may still deserve to be the odd man out if Nomar comes back healthy.) Best scenario is LaRoche comes back ready, is allowed to start or win the starting position over at third, Nomar is a backup, Young stays.

There's really a simple solution to this situation:

When LaRoche's healthy----either DFA Sweeney or Delwyn Young. I personally dont see much value in either guy at the expense of keeping LaRoche in the minors.

Second, play Kemp/Ethier everyday. Platoon Druw/Pierre.

If Pierre's OBP'ing above .360, there's no problems in playing him. But why not play him ahead of the guy that sucks--Druw. Not in front of Ethier.

Why does Andruw Jones have so much pull that he cant be benched? And its not like its a 1.5 month slump. He was bad in 2007 as well.

46 - Jones won't make the Hall of Fame if his career is now over. Not without a Hallmark Hall of Fame movie.

48
In my LAT-ed comment from the last thread, I pointed out that if Jones were putting up Ethier's numbers (.303/.388/.465/.853) and Ethier were putting up Jones's (.158/.267/.248/ .515), there's no way Ethier would be playing over Jones.

If Ethier got benched for Pierre if he was hitting like Jones, wouldn't say small sample size?

The most frustrating thing for me about LaRoche is the amount of hate he gets from the normal fan. I defend him all the time, but people still don't like him, even though they admit they don't know why. Why does Nomar get the "He really didn't do anything wrong, he just got hurt," free pass, but LaRoche is always looked at like he is somehow deceptive about his playing ability. This is no knock on Dewitt. He has done great with the opportunity, but I just want LaRoche to get the same opportunity as Dewitt.

49
"That Dog Shot Me in the Leg and Ruined my Batting Stance and Gave Me a Much Better Batting Stance Instead!"

From the LAT article in 0

"Asked when he might reach the point when he wanted to bench Jones, Torre said somewhat emphatically, "I can't. I can't do it. He needs to perform here if we're going to do something special."

Does that scare/frustrate anyone else? We are winning games without the help of Jones on offense. If he is still hitting this way in June, should we not just field our best team? Wouldn't Ethier in the lineup be a better option no matter what?

Ok, I need to calm down.

46 No. The Braves once had a centerfielder named Dale Murphy who was an even better hitter than Jones has ever been and a two time MVP. He fell off a cliff at 32 and never was better than average after that. He hasn't gotten any HOF support.

52 The casual fan is down on LaRoche because he has not been impressive in his brief stints in las grandes ligas. Only nut jobs like us have much familiarity with his minor league track record.

54 - June or July is another story, but on May 6, I agree with that Torre quote. I just don't think Ethier should pay the price.

"Why does Andruw Jones have so much pull that he cant be benched?"

5 all-star appearences, 10 gold gloves, 369 HRs...

48 Second, play Kemp/Ethier everyday. Platoon Druw/Pierre.

If Torre did that, it would be like pulling the trigger on Ned himself. Could a GM really survive paying $27 million worth of free agents to be a platoon, because they were both outplayed by organizational guys making $400K?

The thing is, from a strictly baseball perspective, that's absolutely the right move to make.

Andruw Jones is a massive ball of PVL, and there is no visible end in sight to the way he's hitting now. I think he'll hit the DL at some point, considering his vision is supposedly not a problem.

Fwiw, Bobby Abreu last year had an OPS of .668 in April and .541 in May and he rebounded for a productive season.

If Ethier got benched for Pierre if he was hitting like Jones, wouldn't say small sample size?

I'm one of those crazy people who includes Jones's 2007 numbers in my sample size.

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2007
Jones: .222/.311/.413/.724
Abreu: .283/.369/.445/.814

49 He could make the Hall of Very Good though.

62 And if he hits as well as he did in 2007, he's probably better than Pierre thanks to his glove. There's no reason to bench Jones.

Rob Neyer chat going right now on ESPN:

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=20498

Hurry up and ask your Dodgers question!

65 Torre seems to agree with you based on that article. I just wonder what we will all think at the end of the year if Jones never turns it around.

From that chat:

Mike (Cottonwood, CA): What's the word on Matt Kemp? Career .340 hitter or just a hot start to his career.

Rob Neyer: (12:32 PM ET ) Well, he's not a career .340 hitter now, because he hit/batted .253 as a rookie in '06. But yeah: he's going to be really, really good. My only concern is the lousy K/W ratio that isn't getting better. It's hard to hit/bat .340 if you're striking out once per game.

(68 Who cares if he strikes out once a game if does the kind of damage he's doing otherwise, Rob?)

52

Well said. I still think LaRoche can be our 3b of the future. Let him get it going at Vegas I say and then bring him up when he is hitting the ball and throwing well. He hasn't had spring training really and is recovering from an injury so people need to be patient and give him a few weeks to recover and get in the swing of things.

If we are going to bring up guys from the minors, we have to have some semblance of patience. We seem to judge guys how they do in the first 100 at bats too much. Look at the Angels who let Kotchman, Saunders, and Santana struggle for a while when they were brought up and are now reaping the benefits

DeWitt has been fairly solid. However, I am not ready to annoit him 3B of the future just yet, although I am impressed with his poise and patience.

Jones is becoming a complete embarrasment. I hate to say it, but he would be better off getting a small injury and then a long rehabilitation assignment in Vegas to get some confidence. Even Vin was saying how bad he was opening up and could barely reach strikes on the outside corner. Last night was almost a good game for him, because he didn't strike out. Funny how the expectations have gone so low for him so quickly.

68 Lol that's a good one.

52 Why do people feel that LaRoche has not been given a chance, or is being squeezed out as the future Dodger third baseman? LaRoche's ML performance and injuries have prevented him from getting that chance, NOT management. But Andy is still clearly the future at third because of his power and plate discipline. DeWitt is scrappy and probably playing over his head. I like the Jack Fimple comparison that Jon made for DeWitt. The Dodgers would be crazy to trade a top prospect like LaRoche for some to the names mentioned earlier in this post.

70 I don't think Jones has ever been on the DL, has he? I thought I remembered Vin saying he's gone 10 years without ever being on the DL. I know coming to the Dodgers is usually the way to break a record like that, so maybe we'll get lucky. I don't wish for anybody to get hurt, but it sure would make the decision easier in this case.

Anyone think that DeWitt's trade value has gone up and maybe that's an option? Just throwing it out there.

Bingo:

Chuck (Downtown LA): Please tell me Joe Torre will finally bench Andruw Jones. How much more do the fans have to BOO him before he's benched?

SportsNation Rob Neyer: (12:55 PM ET ) Funny, for all the preseason moaning (mostly by me) about Juan Pierre, he's been a LOT better than Jones. And since they both make way too much money, Torre might as well play the guy who's playing well.

72 - "LaRoche's ML performance and injuries have prevented him from getting that chance, NOT management."

I appreciate your comment, but the above sentence isn't really true for much of 2007 or for today.

I fully support playing Jones regularly to help him break out of his slump. He has the potential hit much better than Pierre, and the team has a better chance of reaching the postseason and winning some playoff games if he is hitting well.

51--I think over 100 ABs just in 1 season is enough of a sample size to know if a guy is playing well or not.

But, if Ethier had been as bad as Druw was in 2007, and he got benched for Pierre after a horrible start to 2008 also---I think that would be fine.

76 - Isn't it sort of half true, though? And if the freak thumb injury hadn't happened to him at the end of spring, wouldn't he have been starting? (Of course, that would've been partially by default, given Nomar's status.) I dunno, it seems like it's been partially management not giving him enough shots and partially his own bum luck with health. All I know is I want him back in there -- when he's ready to do some damage and hope then, at that point, he will be given a shot. Make it a competition between he and DeWitt if they have to... but give him the shot then. (Nomar shouldn't be in the picture, ideally.) But from what I've been hearing in Vegas he's still not quite 100% at least on defense.

I do hope he gets the shot soon, though.

Competition at all positions is good for a team. I think it has helped the performance of Pierre, Ethier, and Kemp this year. I think Loney's job is safe, but the threat of someone else taking your job is a good motivater for some players not to get complacent. What I really like about the Times article today is that Ethier is not complaining to the media about not starting for a few days. I hope he keeps this positive team attitude instead of questioning whether the Dodgers have him in their plans like he has in the past. Let's just win the games.

I think we are getting too bogged down by arguing the same points over and over again.

Just to have it on record, why don't we all give our preferred starting lineup right now. Not batting order, but the 8 positions. No platoons, just the 8 starters. Has to be from people on the 40-man roster. I will be happy to tally the results.

Here is my starting lineup:

C - Martin
1B - Loney
2B - Kent
3B - LaRoche
SS - Furcal
LF - Ethier
CF - Jones
RF - Kemp

72

His ML performance time is so sporadic. If LaRoche gets the same chance to play EVERY day like Dewitt, than I will be happy.

81 - That's mine, assuming LaRoche is healthy.

I'm not against having spot starters, though.

69 - actually a higher strike out rate (particularly one per game) will make it incredibly difficult to hit .340 - which is the premise of Neyer's comment.

Less contact means fewer hits, fewer hits means lower batting average.

Let's say that Kemp gets 4 ABs per game and he strikes out once per game. That's 648 ABs, 162 Ks. To hit .340, Kemp would need 221 hits in 486 at bats... that's a clip of .455 in at bats where he doesn't strike out.

Now, that's looking entirely at batting average, if he ends up hitting .325 with 30 HRs, 100 RBIs, and 25 SBs, I won't be complaining... even if he is striking out once per game.

81

Here is my starting lineup:

C - Martin
1B - Loney
2B - Kent
3B - LaRoche
SS - Furcal
LF - Ethier
CF - Jones
RF - Kemp

83
I'm for the occasional spot start as well, but for accounting clarity it's just easier to count regulars, meaning 5-6 games per week guys.

Jon,

I'm not sure I would agree with that. They gave him some at bats last year. I think it would be unrealistic to say he would have been starting the whole year in the majors after coming back from the shoulder injury and having never really played in AAA yet.

As for this year, I think he hasn't had a full spring training and is not 100% quite yet. I don't take the act of optioning him down at this point when he would still be on the rehabilitation assignment as a big deal. Now if it is June and Andy is swinging well and fully healthy and is still in Vegas that will be a different story

There's not gonna be much variation in these starting lineups...

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I know, but I'd like to have the facts so I can tell friends "4 out of 5 Dodger Thoughters agree" that so-and-so should be starting.

76 I really don't see how management is holding back LaRoche. Do you believe he was healthy and ready to take over the job in 2007? I remember him having back trouble last year and never really getting it going during his time with the big club last year. And in 2008 he had the freak injury in the spring which he is still recovering from.

I agree with the lineup in 81 .

81 - to play along, as of today:

C - Martin
1B - Loney
2B - Kent
SS - Furcal
3B - DeWitt
LF - Repko
CF - Kemp
RF - Ethier

Put me down for the standard lineup.

90 - BH showed last night how LaRoche never got the chance to start many consecutive games in a row, the way DeWitt has. Do I believe LaRoche was ready to take over the job in 2007? At least as ready as DeWitt.

Of course, I wanted Betemit to play too, so there's that.

As for the current recovery from injury, management was willing to rush Nomar back into the lineup. They have made a choice not to do the same with LaRoche, who homered yesterday for Las Vegas. Maybe it's the right choice, but it's a choice all the same.

I will say this about DeWitt - he has had every excuse to wilt, and he hasn't.

I hate Pierre and love LaRoche (neither as much as some people here), but RIGHT NOW, this is my lineup if I'm Joe Torre:

C - Martin
1B - Loney
2B - Kent
SS - Furcal
3B - DeWitt
LF - Pierre
CF - Kemp
RF - Ethier

I love Repko too, and wouldn't mind him playing IF we didn't have Jones and Pierre. If Pierre keeps getting on base and stealing at his high rate, then Repko stays down.

Weird, in a way we have too much talent this year in the OF. Or at least too many guys who do one thing really well.

81--Lineup vs RHP:

SS- Furcal
C-- Martin
CF--Kemp
2b--Kent
LF--Ethier
1b--Loney
3b--DeWitt
LF--Pierre

Lineup vs LHP
SS-Furcal
C--Martin
RF-Kemp
2b-Kent
LF-Ethier
CF-Druw
3b-LaRoche
1b-Nomar

Everyday.

6 guys platooning in 3 spots.

Joe Sheehan on the Dodgers:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7478

81 I think almost everyone would agree that it the best lineup. Unfortunately, we get injuries (LaRoche). And I support Pierre as a 4th outfielder and spot starter when it makes sense.

C - Martin
1B - Loney
2B - Kent
SS - Furcal
3B - LaRoche (homered in a 2-1 loss last night)
LF - Ethier
CF - Jones-It has to get better-doesn't it?
RF - Kemp

97 - I'm not completely opposed to that.

I think Jones needs to get it together, so right now I'd say

C - Martin
1B - Loney
2B - Kent
3B - La Roche
SS - Furcal
LF - Pierre
CF - Kemp
RF - Ethier

His homers per fly ball have fallen off sharply, etc. I think Terry Pendleton screwed him up - a lot of his problem is mental. But I think he needs to alter his approach, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was injured.

97 You'd platoon the Nicknameless one?

103 The second part to that question is... with Nomar?

95 What part of Repko's AAA numbers do you like this year? He's at 214/315/393, which, aside from batting average, is very close to his career numbers in the minors.

Boy, what happens if the Dodgers sign Fukudome instead of Jones?

Hey, MLB, how about a "lemon law" for free agents?

Between 30-60 games into their first season, if a FA plays far enough below expectations (some metric would have to be established), the team that signed them can drop them by paying a cancellation fee of, say, $2 million, at which point the player becomes an unrestricted free agent, except the team that cancels him can't resign him.

Maybe you could limit this so teams could only exercise it once every, oh, three years.

With respect to Andruw, I guess in a perverse way this validates Ned's theory of short-term free agent contracts. He lost his bet on Furcal, who will be hellishly expensive to resign, but he is winning his bet on Andruw who will at least be gone soon.

87 Between 2006 and 2007, Andy LaRoche has played 128 games in Las Vegas and has compiled this stat line, of all the current young players on the Dodgers, his is the most impressive.

128 games/467 AB/90 runs/147 hits/32 doubles/2 triples/28 HRs (not counting the 2 he hit in the past few days in Vegas/ 83 RBI/64 BB/76 K/.315/.397/.572

No matter what DeWitt has done in the past month or so, should diminish Andy's minor league record. To say he needs more seasoning is just simply wrong. I do think he needs to be fully healed before coming back but other than that, he's proven everything he needs to in the minors.

106 or even Hunter.

103--I've never been a big fan of Loney. I dont have a problem letting Nomar play 1st against LHP.

100 - LaRoche homers when nobody else scores, but has an o-fer when the 51s score 18. Will Colletti see this as balance or not being a team player?

95 I guess I didn't realize that LaRoche was healthy enough to come back. If so, I say bring him up and start him instead of DeWitt. But don't send DeWitt down either...at least not until Nomar comes back.

Have the Dodgers tried DeWitt anywhere else (2B, SS, etc.?) as a backup. I know his defense isn't highly touted, but he's played it well and I'd rather see him be the super utility IF rather than Nomar at this point.

Sheehan pretty much eviscerates Ned in that article. Brutal.

I think it's time to go with a straight platoon of Jones and Pierre. I'd also stick Laroche at 3B as soon as he's healthy enough to make that throw consistently. Part of me wonders if Hu's defense should make him the defacto starter at 2B when Lowe and Kuroda start. That wouldn't go over too well with Kent I'm sure. I don't like the idea of platooning Loney with Nomar - Loney should play every day.

Andy's numbers thus far at Las Vegas (in very limited action) present and interesting study in player evaluation. Witness:

.176/.364/.529/.893

109 We do the same thing we're doing with Jones, just a couple years later.

114 - He's screwed.

94 DeWitt only got a chance to start everyday b/c of two freak injuries to Garciaparra and LaRoche. Had LaRoche been in the same position, he'd have gotten the same shot. Now that DeWitt capitalized handsomely on the brief window he was given, I don't see any reason why LaRoche (or Garciaparra) should be given any more of a shot than DeWitt would have in LaRoche's current position (if that makes sense).

110 Oh yeah. Now I remember. =(

94 Dewitt got to start a number of consecutive games this year out of necessity. They had nobody healthy left in the organization. And DeWitt has shocked us all with his play and poise. I don't think LaRoche showed the poise and confidence last year in the bigs that DeWitt has shown in 2008. However, I am convinced that LaRoche will at some point soon. And as much as I appreciate DeWitt this year, a healthy LaRoche with his power and plate discipline should be starting at 3rd every day. Management did rush Nomar back, but I think they are being smart with LaRoche right now.

LaRoche lost, what, half of spring training to injury?

This isn't going to be popular around here, but I say give him until Memorial Day in Vegas to get back to game speed. If DeWitt falters between now and then, and LaRoche is playing well, bring him up, but otherwise, give him a month.

113 It makes sense that DePo looks good in analysis like that, any bad players he acquired would have been jettisoned by now. Plus Kent should be considered a Colletti guy at this point.

The San Diego DA has announced the arrests of 96 students at San Diego State in connection with a drug-selling ring.

There were just 96?

97
I don't disagree with your lineup, but humor me. Assume a good version of Greg Harris is pitching, to remove handedness from the equation. What is your one lineup?

106 I remember a lot of DT regulars lobbying for Fukudome. Would have been fun.

121

I was thinking the same thing about DePo's guys but the fact remains that Ned's success rate on the moves he's made has been unacceptably poor. That's not news around here, but I appreciate seeing such a thorough analysis in a national forum.

Plus Sheehan is assuming the WARP has a linear value, when really it's exponential. A six win player is way more than twice as valuable than a three win one.

I'm guessing he knew the conclusion he wanted ("Ned Sucks") then wrote an article around it.

124
My fantasy team is named after him ("Beyond Fukudome"), but I pronounce it as a Rule 1 violation, sort of an homage to Mad Max.

124 Following up, I wonder if the Dodgers would have been more willing to sign Fukudome if they had realized they could play Kemp in CF.

I wonder if anyone will ever admit that Ned getting a few months of Julio Lugo and the two draft picks (Withrow/Adkins) for Guzman, Pedroza and Ruggiano will ever be seen as a good move.

I doubt the Dodgers were seriously considering signing Fukudome given the erratic track record of Japanese position players coming over to MLB.

Japanese pitchers are probably viewed as the "safe" free agent investment.

129
It might be a good move, but it's hard to admit that because Guzman's perceived value was much higher, to the point that Ned probably should have received more in return, even if Withrow & Adkins turn out great.

I still think the Dodgers view LaRoche as the future, and they are trying to put him is the best position to succeed. I don't see anything wrong with letting him get back into a groove before they call him up, especially with Dewitt playing well.

We all complained about Kemp sitting againts "tough righties" earlier in the season, but he wouldn't be hitting anywhere near .330 now if he hadn't. He's done all his damage againt lefties this year. I think we ivory tower folks are too cavalier in dismising the psycholgical aspects of player development.

128 - I thought of you while making my Angels comment up top.

108 Who said that LaRoche needs more seasoning? I think he is only in AAA as a form of spring training right now. I don't think that management feels he has anything left to prove.

94 LaRoche does deserve more of a shot than DeWitt because his upside compared to DeWitt is huge.

129
The Summer of Lugo! Who can ever forget?

135
Followed by The Summer of LuGo!

132 - Maybe we just emphasize different psychological aspects. I think there's a psychological benefit to knowing you're going to play every day and to being challenged by the best. I would take an 0 for 4 against Peavy if I thought the player could learn from it.

130 Just out of curiosity, which Japanese position players have been bad? Off the top of my head, I can remember only one Japanese position player that wasn't at least decent (Shinjo) and a bunch of awful Japanese pitchers (Kei Igawa, for example). It seems to me that Japanese position players have been the better investment.

132
Yeah, I'm not as worked up over LaRoche being optioned as I thought I would be. Obviously, I would prefer he be here ASAP, but if he gets a couple of weeks to let his hand heal more (and for his throws to improve), it's wise to call him up when he's at full strength.

However, if a couple of weeks go by, and LaRoche is still in AAA when he is healthy and ready, then it's castle storming time.

138 Kaz Matsui isn't all that great.

123--My one lineup:

Furcal
Martin
Kemp
Kent
Ethier
LaRoche
Loney
Pierre

Overall, I like LaRoche more than DeWitt, and think long-term its better that he play now. Loney, is of course better than Nomar but I can see the argument for benching him against LHP.

Sad to say, but at this point I'd rather have Pierre in there over Druw. Druw's splits vs LHP though are good enough where he has to still play against them.

138
The man who lost his job to Mike Edwards, for one: Norihiro Nakamura.

141
Thanks.

138 Haha, yes, Nakamura was awful, but he was only signed to a minor league deal, if I recall correctly. In terms of higher profile signings of Japanese players, I think that Japanese pitchers have been an extremely mixed bag, while the position players have been surprisingly solid. I might be wrong.

C Martin
ss Furcal
2b Kent
1b Loney
Rf Kemp
3b DeWitt
CF Jones*
LF Ethier

If over the next two weeks Jones shows no major improvements than I really think we go to the platoon of JP and Jones and on the days JP plays Kemp plays Center. For 3b I stick with DeWitt with Nomar spelling DeWitt on occasion. I agree that La Roche needs a real chance, but I think a few weeks of regular play in Las Vegas will actually be good for since he had no spring training. As I recall also La Roche played some outfield and I do think come next year the Dodgers might be able to trade JP, they will never DFA Jones even if his struggles continue, so they will need another outfielder with power and that might be where LaRoche ends up

129 - It would have been a good move if Little didn't keep batting him 3rd. The draft picks were nice though - I'm all in favor of Logan White doing more.

Does anyone else think that Ethier is a better outfielder than Kemp and should play CF ahead of him? It looks like he has better instincts and, while he's not as fast, I feel like his better jumps more than make up for it. I think his arm is sufficient as well.

140 You're right, he has been pretty mediocre. That said, he was an extremely useful player while he was with the Rockies.

133 I think the resurgence of Ervin Santana is one of the great baseball stories of the season so far. He's always had talent, but suffered through some terrible problems last year. If he keeps it up, he could be Comeback Player, All Star, possibly Cy Young?

Saunders has been great too, but I don't know if he can be expected to keep it up. Both of them have been great surprises and have kept the Angels afloat while they lack their top two pitchers. Neither is strong enough to make you feel like they won't revert at some point.

137 Yeah, but if a guys starts flirting with Mendoza the way LaRoche did in his callup then it undermines his confidence and turns the fans against him.

144. I think that the issue with Japanese position players in the past has been that their power has been less than assumed.

A few observations:

Hand fractures are known to rob a hitter of his power, not permanently, but it can take weeks, months, even more than a year after the bone has healed for the hitter to get it all back. Who knows how long it will take LaRoche? Maybe he's already back to his peak form, though I doubt it. I'd prefer he have a less pressurized environment to stage his comeback. The PCL seems ideal for him right now. If his hand's fully recovered and his talent is what it appears to be, he'll get another shot.

The outfield situation seems pretty workable to me, even a win-win-win-win, should be enough ABs for all four of these guys, might even be of benefit to them by keeping them fresh physically -- specifically, Jones and Pierre, who are past their prime years and have played a ton of innings the last several years. Each guy might be a half step quicker just because he'll be fresher. I also think playing the matchups will benefit each hitter. There's such a diversity of pitching out there, including relievers, that it's nice to be able to sit a guy against certain pitchers who are going to be really tough on him, prep him that night to come of the bench against a less unfavorable opponent.

One other thing, and I toss this out there pretty lightly, would Kershaw benefit from having to face more adversity before the Dodgers bring him to the majors? I tend to think he would. Not saying I want him to get knocked around several times, but I kind of think it would be good for him to have to cope with at least some degree of failure while he's in the minors, or at least greater challenges. If he continues to handle Double-A -- and that's obviously not a sure thing -- why not slot him in the PCL against all of those 4A hitters in tough pitching condition? In the long run, I think it might do him some good. I might be getting this wrong, but as I remember it, Pat Jordan had a pretty interesting take on Ankiel, saying that if he had gone through some growing pains in the minors, his chances of adapting to failure in the majors may have been greater. Interesting take.

150 And it's hard to move north of Mendoza when your playing time is erratic at best. Kemp looked pretty bad before he started getting regular playing time. Can't imagine why it wouldn't help LaRoche.

Unless he stated it, we have no idea that last season in the bigs hurt LaRoche's confidence. He could have gained confidence from his defensive play and strike-zone judgement.

Maybe he's already back to his peak form, though I doubt it.

Well, he has two HR in 12 games played so far.

152 - Good thoughts.

Bob just brought up the summer of Lugo, as I recall he came to the Dodgers wtih a low batting average to begin with, but I don't think he ever was below a BA of 200 for more than a day. I can't seem to recall that any regular Dodger with at least 200 AB has hit below 200? Am I correct, even Jeff Torborg back in the day hit above 200.

dsfan, the psychology of a player is so unique, and varies from player to player.

It seems you would have two arguments with sending Kershaw to AAA. One is yours, which is that facing adversity might toughen him up and prepare him for MLB life.

The flip side would be the concern that faltering in an environment that may be slanted towards hitters may cause Kershaw to change his approach, alter something that doesn't really need to be altered, or weaken his confidence.

I don't know which would be right. I don't know that anyone does. Just stating what the two sides would be.

Does the park that was suggested for the DT picnic have a playground for little kids?

129 BH, I think if push comes to shove most would agree that Ned (whoever came up with the Darth Flanders nickname should get some sort of prize) has made some good moves. Frankly, I was very hopeful about the Jones signing.

If I were an owner and I were to do outcomes assessments for my employees. Wins would be the primary metric for the manager, but would only be a secondary metric for the GM. Overall, including wins, Ned has been a bit of a disaster. If I were Frank I would care about value per dollar committed. According to that outcome alone Ned is an unmitigated disaster as a GM.

Tip of the cap: Didn't trade away the farm and made some savvy trades.

Wag of the finger: Used huge financial advantage to purchase negative to zero wins.

My lineup (given likely roster 6/1):
C Martin
1B Loney
2B Kent
3B LaRoche
SS Furcal
LF Ethier
CF Jones
RF Kemp

Significant subs (% of games started):
Pierre 25%
Nomar 25%
Bennett 8% (begrudgingly)
Abreu/DeWitt ??% (depends on DL)

This raises whom the subs take playing time from. Rest, "hot hand", injury, slumps, etc. may factor in. Since I think most of our lineups are the same, I'd be curious what % of folks would be satisfied having a non-regular start if health isn't a factor. I think we can agree Martin & Kent need the most rest.

152 Actually with a talent like Kershaw I think he might benefit from facing adversity at the major league level a la Kemp in his first cup of coffee. It might behoove him to get knocked around a bit and go back to the minors to work on the gaps in his game.

but yeah, good post dsfan.

I can certainly see how the OF rotation keeps everyone fresh and alert. No one can get mentally complacent. (except Jones, who may already be :)

Some athletes certainly put forth a better effort when they find themselves competing for time. Others aren't suited to handle this well. Pierre didn't handle it well in ST, but looks more relaxed now. So far it seems everyone has benefited from it.

152 But is it a hand fracture or more specifically a "thumb fracture" we're dealing with re: LaRoche? Maybe it makes no difference with your analogy but I'm just wondering aloud about the history of that particular injury, seems like less recovery time and not sure about long term power numbers.

Re: Fukkudome, did the Dodgers even have a shot at him even if they were interested? And given the Kuroda deal, separate even from Jones, would they have wanted to take a chance on two players from Japan? I feel like there's no real point in debating this (other than possibly to torture ourselves).

I'm kinda happy the Dodgers have been the hottest team in baseball for the past two weeks. Hopefully these other things will sort themselves out in the right way. My ideal lineup wouldn't really differ from the most frequent one posted above. (Except Pee Wee needs to play more! Heh.)

Ned probably should have received more in return

the problem with this is that we really don't know if he could have gotten more. We may think he should have, but maybe other GM's didn't feel his value was as high as us Dodger fans did. Maybe 6 months earlier he could have fetched more, but at that time he wasn't quite so sexy.

Lowest BA, L.A. Dodgers, min 200 AB.

http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/Mnzj

Were there any other Dodger Q&As in Neyer's chat today? (For anyone who has Insider subscription.)

With Jones, I believe he's still capable of much more than we've seen. I also believe that this team may make the playoffs without him, but likely not advance unless he's performing at least at 2007 levels. He won't improve sitting on the bench. So it's a tricky balancing act getting him enough AB's while not dragging the team down and letting current producers (Pierre right now) play enough to get wins.

Part of me wishes Andruw would have a minor DL injury, so he could go to Vegas and get his groove back against AAA pitching. BP performance isn't translating to game time...I can't think of a better way.

166- Don Zimmer ranks first on the above list. Mike Piazza ranks last.

{re-opening an old chestnut} So, Pierre's doing well, which helps the team and helps any chance they may have of trading him if so desired. SO, since we all agree a trade to the Padres is unlikely, any other likely suitors? A trade wouldn't really be likely, if at all, until July anyway, so I guess we have to see what other team's needs are. I'm one of those who is happy to have the depth right now, given Jones' struggles, but with some other OF depth (Repko, Young, f'rinstance) and IF Jones does get his act together somewhat, Pierre doing well at least makes a trade in the future a possibility again.
{/old chestnuts, OFF}

166 What an amazing list. 2 of the top 10 (A. Griffin and Mike Davis) were semi-regulars on our last championship team, as per our discussion yesterday. Many other familiar faces from the 1988 team are on the list for other seasons (Anderson, Stubbs, Shelby). The fact that Griffin, in particular, was such an offensive sinkhole was not something I didn't appreciate until much later. Makes Christian Guzman look awesome, by comparison.

I just figured out Ned's big offseason move:

First, Pierre signs for 5y/$44m; then, Jones for 2y/$36.2m; NEXT:

Ken Griffey Jr. for 1y/27m!

(BTW, someone on U.S.S. Mariner was saying the M's should trade for Pierre. Hmmm. Bavasi & Colletti . . .)

I don't think that Japanese position players have been viewed as being as good as they were in Japan with the exception of Ichiro. Whether that is true or not is one thing, but there are perceptions.

Hideki Matsui was considered the top Japanese power hitter, but his best season for homers in the U.S. has been 31.

Tadahito Iguchi showed good power his first two seasons, but it appears that age and playing in Petco has put an end to that.

But Kazuo Matsui is still the Japanese player that teams fear they are going to get stuck with.

Remember also that Fukudome missed the second half of the 2007 season with an elbow injury and that probably scared off a few teams.

171
So far this year, Cristian Guzman is 309/331/463. He already has three home runs.

168 what better place and time than on the big club now to let Jones try and work through his problems. Better to do it when the Dodgers can score a lot and win without him producing in the lineup than later when the team is struggling as a whole.

Pierre finally plays himself into a trade-able commodity, and now we actually need the guy around. That is better irony than anything Alannis Morrisette could dream up.

176 - What isn't?

177 Pierre is like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.

He's like rain on your wedding day. Actually, it did rain on my wedding day. It started just as we moved from the outdoor ceremony to the indoor reception. Everybody got a nice little refreshing sprinkle as they came in. It was kind of nice. Juan Pierre is nothing like that. Never mind.

Wikipedia sez:

The song's usage of the word "ironic" attracted attention for what many feel is an improper application of the term. Some situations that Morissette describes in the song are arguably examples of cosmic irony: events that, as the Oxford English Dictionary puts it, appear "as if in mockery of the fitness or rightness of things", such as "a death row pardon/two minutes too late". Others appear to be merely unfortunate (not even improbable or coincidental), such as "a black fly/in your Chardonnay" or "A traffic jam/when you're already late." If one discounts cosmic irony, however, it is arguable that the song is ironic in and of itself - there is a fundamental incongruity in a song titled "Ironic" which ultimately contains no irony, an interpretation that Morissette herself has supported.

Someone should write a song called "Cosmic Ironic."

178
I see you know how to play knifey-spooney.

180 This is why I never use "ironic" anymore.

That and being slapped down by Bob Timmermann and the grammer/usage police.

183
gpellamjr made me turn in my badge and style guide and drummed me out of the Grammar Police. It was a formal ceremony. Sort of like what happened to Dreyfus.

Feeling a bit contrarian today.

C Martin
1B Loney
2B Kent
3B LaRoche
SS Furcal
LF Ethier
CF Kemp
RF Young

185
Then you should go write for Slate.

Wouldn't it be more contrarian for a contrarian to refuse to write for Slate?

So, that's what I'm doing. No writing for Slate today. Take that, contrarian establishment!

My ideal Dodger lineup:

C Martin
1B Loney
2B Kent
3B A-Rod
SS Furcal
LF Kemp
CF Victorino/Werth
RF Guerrero

We could've had that lineup. So close...

We were never close to A-Rod, unless you're talking about the 1993 draft.

We're up to 14 votes for the lineup. Get your vote in today!

187
Slate will likely have an article for the weekend titled, "Why Your Mother Really Hates You and You Shouldn't Get Her Anything for Mother's Day."

188
Doesn't count!

191
If Slate wrote shows for CBS, Monday would include "How I Wish I Never Met Your Mother."

I know people heard the Bison reference on the postgame show last night, but I guess no one saw the pregame? Lyons just e-mailed to say he plugged the site and credited us for the nickname on the pregame show.

I don't get pregame or postgame shows. Extra Innings starts with "Time for Dodger Baseball" and after the game, cuts off within 5 seconds of the last out.

Nomar, even though he never won the job out of spring wont loose the job now. Even though Nomar cant even play and LaRoche and Dewitt both homered last night for current dodger teams...

194 Did not catch the show either but its cool that the site got a plug.

SS Fucral
LF Ethier
RF Kemp
2B Kent
1B Loney
C Martin
CF Jones
3B LaRoche

My vote:

C - Martin
1B - Loney
2B - Kent
SS - Furcal
3B - LaRoche
LF - Pierre
CF - Kemp
RF - Ethier

194 I didn't see it, but the way the post-game worked it made sense. It started with Kennedy asking "What do they call him?"

He then took the higher road later in the segment, preferring Bison to "tinkle player" (and thank him for that)

All that's left is for Vin to work it into a Kemp AB...

188 I'm still very bitter that we don't have Guerrero. It's Bud's fault he isn't here. He was ours and Bud ruined it. The Dodgers should have gotten compensation for the leagues interference in the matter. I think an extra 1st round pick for each year that Vlad signed with the Angels.

Count me in for the standard line-up, Mr. Stephen.

And, as for you Bob, I've quit the grammar police, too. Though I did it with much less ceremony. It's just too hard to grade papers quarter after quarter when you hold your students to some standard.

To be clear: I am not frustrated with LaRoche getting some more time in AAA right now, as long as he gets his shot when he is deemed "healthy".

I am frustrated that so many fans and media types have written him off based on a small, sporadic sample of playing time at the big league level.

My ideal lineup as of today:

C Martin
1B Loney
2B Kent
SS Furcal
3B Dewitt
LF Pierre
CF Kemp
RF Ethier

191 - That reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rnig2EHzDg

200 Well our owner has to be partly to blame too, right?

178 is that because Pierre is really fast but never gets on base?

204 well that is when the purchase was being approved and all. As I understand it Frank was under prssure not to make any big moves like that.

Or we could have not said "nah, we'll just take Wilton" long before that.

i'm with 202

194 ,195
I had the Dodger pregame show, or at least a few minutes of it last night on Extra Innings, and I didn't catch the reference. I did tune in a few minutes after 7pm though. I assume someone at EI flipped the switch at 7pm on the dot so we got 5-10 minutes of pregame prior to the start of the contest.

195 Strange, but last night it didn't cut out
until in the middle of `Torre's Stories. That's the first time this year, though.

201
Does this mean I can leave Devil's Island?

207 the corky experiment didn't work out so well.

194 Sweet!
Thanks, Psycho.

Okay, okay, twist my arm, Eric S.

C - Martin
1B - Sweeney (I'm kidding!) Loney
2B - Kent
SS - Furcal
3B - LaRoche
LF - Young (Hah! Take that, payroll!)
CF - Kemp
RF - Ethier

DH - (for @AL games) Young (move Pierre in to left)
or, for Daniel Z, John Lindsay.

207 nevermind 212 I didn't catch your NOT in there.

LF - Young (Hah! Take that, payroll!)

Payroll responds by reminding you that Jones and Pierre get paid just as much to sit on the bench as to stand on the field.

With 19 entries thus far, here are the results:

Unanimous Regulars
Martin
Loney
Kent
Furcal
Kemp
Ethier

3B
LaRoche 14 (73.7%)
DeWitt 5 (26.3%)

3rd OF
Andruw 12 (63.2%)
Pierre 5 (26.3%)
Young 1 (5.3%)
Repko 1 (5.3%)

215 yeah, but they need the opportunity to NOT earn their money

216 There is on love for Gary Bennett and his -9 OPS+.

216
Those numbers are through the cargill06 lineup, btw.

As long as Steve Lyons keeps throwing DT some love, he gets an A-OK from me.

216 Cast on more vote for Young in place of Jones/Pierre

Jon

Thanks for my answer on 200 AB's. How could I ever forget the former MVP who came to the Dodgers I believe in 67. To think we also had to have Gene Michael for a shortstop as well!

201 You may be eligible to join the 101st Keyboard Commandos if you have a desire to ruthlessly root out typos.

C Martin
1b Loney
2b Kent
SS Furcal
3b LaRoche
LF Ethier
CF Miley McManboobs
RF The Bison

I think we should give Jones until June or July to get untracked.

215 But isn't it ironic?

Xavier Paul is on the RESERVE list in AAA Las Vegas. What does this mean? Below is the link to the website:

http://lasvegas.51s.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=400&stn=true&sid=t400

I just feel bad for Ethier-even when he hits .300+ - he can't keep his everyday job in the lineup. I'm going to the game tonight, hopefully the bats keep it going and Kuroda is sharp. I'm in the reserve section 23 Row N. I'll have on my LA Dodger World Series Champions Jacket.

Congratulation to Blake Dewitt on his first HR! Nice shout out to DT by Lyons by making Bison references for Kemp on the postgame show on Fox.

226
It means Paul is not on the active roster. There is a 24 player limit. And Miguel Pinango just was added to the roster.

Delwyn's making a late run. Three votes and counting!

Delwyn wants your vote. Delwyn needs your vote. When the phone rings at Dodger Stadium at 3 a.m., who do you want in right field?

hey does anyone know the promo code for the $15 field seats for tomorrow's day game?

But Xavier Paul has been playing. So what it also might mean is it's a mistake.

230 Wasn't it "Burger"?

Or maybe Burgers.

231 He didn't play yesterday.

I remember Canuck saying something like "refusing to play" during the Tony Abreu fiasco last year. Could the same thing be happening here?

229 You can't spell "wyn" without "Delwyn"!

235 isn't it the other way around

235 or you know, vice-versa.

234
According to the boxscore, Paul pinch ran yesterday. And Pinango pitched.

81 My "preferred starting lineup right now"

C - Martin
1B - Loney
2B - Kent
3B - DeWitt
SS - Furcal
LF - Ethier
CF - Jones
RF - Kemp

because I refuse to believe that Jones has fallen off the career cliff already (though it is possible) and because I'm in the LaRoche needs some more "rehab" time camp. In 10-14 days, when LaRoche is completely healthy and comfortable playing everyday, I would choose him over DeWitt.

238 - Alanis should have done a son called "Alliteration," with a lot of words that didn't start with the same letter.

238 Thanks. Still find it strange, though.

Dewitt's OPS+ is 112. Can we stop complaining about him?

213 God bless you. Tiffee would also work as DH for me.

Jason Johnson is on the HTML version of the roster, but not on PDF version of the roster for the 51s.
http://tinyurl.com/3fq5zd

Is there a single person who's actually been complaining about DeWitt? Stating that his BABIP-fueled performance is unsustainable, and that LaRoche is likely to be the better player from this point forward, are not complaints. I think everyone appreciates what he's done so far.

166,171 I had forgotten how bad Alfredo Griffin could be. It is amazing he got that many AB's that year.

From various internet sources.

There are two separate lists of players for minor league teams: the "active list", and the "reserve list".

Players may be transferred between these lists before the start of each game, but only players who are on the "active list" at the start of the game can play in a particular game.

The "reserve list" includes all players on the "active list".
AAA and AA teams are allowed 24 players on their "active list" for the first 30 games. They are allowed 23 players on their active list after that until August 10th, when they are allowed to have 24 players. The "reserve list" limit is 38 players for AAA teams and 37 players for AA teams.

Griffin was also the most aggressively stupid baserunner the Dodgers have had during my lifetime. Mondesi was aggressive, too, but at least he'd make it some of the time. Seemed like Griffin would get thrown out every time he tried to advance an extra base.

Jason Repko has the following slash-triple MLB career stat line: .232 / .302 / .382 in 451 PA. That's just nine short of four times the MLB PAs of Andy LaRoche and all of Repko's PA were at an age older than LaRoche was to start ST this year. At age 27 Repko is again in AAA ball and is danger of becoming the next conductor of George Lombard's orchestra more so than in line to becoming a 25-man roster member.

247 So basically, Paul being on the Reserve List means he's getting the day off. Much ado about nothing, probably.

Is there a single person who's actually been complaining about DeWitt? Stating that his BABIP-fueled performance is unsustainable, and that LaRoche is likely to be the better player from this point forward, are not complaints. I think everyone appreciates what he's done so far.

Ok maybe complaining wasn't the right word. But there are a lot of people here basically just waiting for Dewitt to fail to affirm the fact that their horse (Laroche) is the right horse to ride.

I love Laroche as much as the next Dodger prospect fanatic but Dewitt is getting the job done right here, right now. He has not done anything to have that taken away from him. Lets just see where this takes us. Yes, his minor league numbers are not as stellar. Yes, he hasn't progressed as quickly as we all would have hoped since being drafted in 2004. But Dewitt has always been a player that scouts have really liked because they see something in his swing, his work ethic and personality. The road that he took to get here has been uncharacteristic but is here now and making the most of his opportunity.

BTW - is there any service time consideration to keeping LaRoche in AAA a little longer? I don't know the exact numbers, but it seems to me that he might still be under one year at the end of the season if he is in AAA long enough.

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