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2008-05-13 12:42
by Jon Weisman

When I see someone using two hands to operate a hands-free cellphone device, I feel like we as a society have taken a step backward.

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Dodgers at Brewers, 5:05 p.m.

 

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2008-05-13 13:10:34
1.   Eric Enders
When I see someone using a cell phone, I feel like we as a society have taken a step backward.
2008-05-13 13:11:23
2.   MollyKnight
Because we need to turn that frown upside down, allow me to get the positivity train rolling:

At least we didn't give Eric Gagne $10M this year.

2008-05-13 13:13:10
3.   silverwidow
I wonder who, in Logan White's opinion, should be the Dodgers 3rd baseman long- term. They're both "his guys", so to speak.
2008-05-13 13:13:49
4.   Jon Weisman
Who wants to see Eric and raise him?
2008-05-13 13:14:51
5.   KG16
It's funny, we've seen a lot of "The Dodgers are struggling without Furcal in the line up"... but really, does not having the lead off man go 3-4 matter if everyone else is going 3-32? Especially if those three hits are from the 7 and 8 hitter?

This I think, is one of the psychological effects of having a young team, they seem to feed off of each other's success or failure. Either everyone is hitting, or no one is. I would think you would see less of this with a more veteran line up (not that I want one of those for a few years). Or maybe it's just been the fact that we tend to see certain pitchers on their better days.

2008-05-13 13:15:12
6.   underdog
When I see someone, I feel like we as a society have taken a step backward.

How's that?

2008-05-13 13:15:39
7.   Bluebleeder87
bluetooths make you look un-cool. there I said it.

I have to use it or else I'll get a ticket though...

2008-05-13 13:16:26
8.   fanerman
When I see blog posts written by fat dudes who don't know anything about baseball and live in their parents' basements, I feel like we as a society have taken a step backward.
2008-05-13 13:17:09
9.   underdog
But I am fully in support of laws requiring use of hands free devices when driving -- though I'd take it a step further and ban cell phones while driving altogether. But that's just crazy ol' me.

3 Good question. He wouldn't publicly pick one over the other, and is probably rooting for them both to make it in one way or the other. But I wonder if internally he has stated a preference, or at least wonder if he has one.

2008-05-13 13:19:47
10.   ToyCannon
Whenever I see Dodger fans booing Shawn Green and Mike Piazza, I feel like we as Dodger fans have taken a step backward.
2008-05-13 13:20:00
11.   Eric Stephen
Also in one of the boxcars of the positivity train:

1) Shawn Green hit 4 HR in Milwaukee in 2002
2) The Dodgers capped their 12-2 start in 2005, in Milwaukee
3) Beer and Sausages and Cheese are all associated with Milwaukee. Hopefully the relatively unclogged arteries of the Dodgers will outlast the chest-clutching Brewers over the next 3 days.

2008-05-13 13:20:24
12.   Johnson
4 Wake up, technological dead man! I said, WAKE UP, TECHNOLOGICAL DEAD MAN!

Hmm...didn't work.

2008-05-13 13:20:25
13.   regfairfield
8 I'm glad that True Blue LA is still advancing society.
2008-05-13 13:20:49
14.   blue22
5 - But does that explain DeWitt hitting .444, Loney hitting .389, and Ethier hitting .333 in the last week, while Kent's gone 0-for-14 and Pierre 2-for-18?

Furcal's out and Kent, Pierre, Martin, and Kemp have all hit the skids. Young and old, slumping and struggling together.

I think it's also a by-product of having a team offense so dependent on singles and batting average. A few well-timed slumps and the whole offense grinds to a halt.

2008-05-13 13:20:54
15.   ToyCannon
If kids couldn't text how would they communicate?
2008-05-13 13:21:29
16.   kylepetterson
0 When I see someone using an older hands-free ear bud and mic combo and holding the mic up to their mouth, I feel like I want to punch that person in the face.
2008-05-13 13:23:48
17.   LoneStar7
356 previous thread
wouldn't that be very risky, if you did do that you'd have to have a chan-ho or Duiza type player in the bullpen that could make spot starts if such things as inclement weather arise..
2008-05-13 13:25:34
18.   bryanf
When I see people at baseball games with beachballs/doing the wave/not paying attention to the game, I feel like we as a society have taken a step backward.
2008-05-13 13:27:26
19.   silverwidow
Ogden starts its season June 17. Looking forward to following Chris Withrow, he of the 98 MPH fastball.
2008-05-13 13:27:39
20.   old dodger fan
While driving for an 8th grade field trip recently there were 2 girls in the back seat texting each other. Man, did I feel old. I remember when people used to talk to each other.
2008-05-13 13:28:34
21.   ToyCannon
16
Don't sit next to me at the next Dodger Thoughts game, sometimes old habits die hard for those of us with overloaded nerve endings.

I'm always amazed at what bothers people that have nothing to do with them.

2008-05-13 13:29:19
22.   blue22
Does LA regularly skip their 5th starter when off-days allow it? Or do they have their #5 guy take the ball on his regular turn?

It seems like you could effectively get a 4-man rotation going by routinely skipping the 5th guy, and only using them when consecutive days with a game demand it.

Just glancing at the schedule, Penny is about to make his 9th start tonight while Kuo/Loaiza have made 6, so maybe they do this already.

2008-05-13 13:29:51
23.   Gilberto Reyes
When I see people in the Dugout Box seats directly behind home plate, talking on their cell phones, and waving to the camera on every pitch, I feel like we as a society have taken a step backward.
2008-05-13 13:30:12
24.   silverwidow
I just noticed that DT and True Blue LA are both linked at Tony Jackson's blog.
2008-05-13 13:30:17
25.   ToyCannon
20
You were probably better off not knowing what the 8th grade girls were texting.
2008-05-13 13:33:25
26.   Eric Enders
I just noticed that Milton Bradley is leading the AL in EQA. Wow.
2008-05-13 13:34:53
27.   MollyKnight
When I see Ian Ziering sitting behind home plate but left of center, I think we as a society have taken a step backward.
2008-05-13 13:35:59
28.   larry slimfast
speaking of "rule one" in society...

http://tinyurl.com/2wr4b3

2008-05-13 13:36:20
29.   StolenMonkey86
The key to enjoying life is to laugh at, rather than mourn, public displays of stupidity that do you no harm.

I take no responsibility, nor do I participate in such things, so I don't see any reason why this affects us as a society. I will say that working in a customer service position, it's very strange when a customer is talking to someone on the phone while trying to work with you at the same time.

2008-05-13 13:37:17
30.   Eric Enders
Gilberto Reyes just hit on my biggest baseball pet peeve. When they put me in charge of baseball, Rule #1 will be that people talking and waving on their cell phones behind home plate will be shot on sight. Not asked politely to stop. Not given a stern talking-to. Not ejected. Shot. On. Sight.
2008-05-13 13:38:19
31.   Sac Town Dodger Fan
When I see an organization dish out $45 million for a slap-hitting LF with no arm and $36 million for a CF who has hit 1 HR and 5 RBI through 37 games, I think we as a society have taken a step backward.
2008-05-13 13:41:11
32.   Gilberto Reyes
31 I was wondering how long that one was going to take.
2008-05-13 13:41:27
33.   PDH5204
31 Agreed. And when I hear someone speak of doing a "due diligence" that can't be done with respect to a shoulder injury...
2008-05-13 13:42:50
34.   fracule
When I see a blog about baseball, transcend baseball, and create conversation about life, the universe, and everything. I feel that we as a society have taken a step.
2008-05-13 13:44:25
35.   Eric Stephen
30
I think that is why 24 is so popular. The world needs Jack Bauer in these situations. And not the end of season 6 emasculated weepy Bauer, either. I want for a Jack Bauer type to come across a cell phone hand waving behind home plate seat having person, then exclaim to no one in particular, "I'm gonna need a hacksaw".
2008-05-13 13:45:33
36.   Bob Timmermann
When people call the library to specifically ask for a phone number and then once you have it, the person does not have anything to write it down with, then society has collapsed and we should all start looking up recipes for Soylent Green.
2008-05-13 13:46:40
37.   fracule
36 Do you really need a recipe? Where's your sense of adventure in the kitchen?
2008-05-13 13:46:48
38.   PDH5204
36 You shouldn't have said that, since now we'll all be calling... Is Mr. Timmermann there...thank you, I'll hold...
2008-05-13 13:47:19
39.   silverwidow
Pierre, LF
Ethier, RF
Kemp, CF
Kent, 2B
Loney, 1B
Martin, C
DeWitt, 3B
Hu, SS
Penny, P

NO ANDRUW! VICTORY!

2008-05-13 13:47:32
40.   old dodger fan
36 Nobody writes phone numbers down, they put them into their cell phone address book or their PDA.
2008-05-13 13:47:51
41.   Gilberto Reyes
30 Other stadium pet peeves besides the cell phone waive include the human wave, beachballs, 4th inning arrivals, seat confusion, standing in the rows & aisles, and cheering because the messageboard is telling you to.
2008-05-13 13:48:10
42.   Eric Stephen
36
There are few things worse than that, I agree. It's like the person on the other end didn't expect you to come up with the answer to their question so quickly. And sometimes the abruptness of "Hold on, let me get a pen" makes me want to break many laws and cause great bodily harm to said person.
2008-05-13 13:49:22
43.   Eric Stephen
39
PIERRE! Hollow victory.
2008-05-13 13:49:42
44.   old dodger fan
39 I'm with Torre on sticking with Andruw for awhile. I would much rather see Ethier, Jones and Kemp though.
2008-05-13 13:51:57
45.   Bulldog1988
I would like to add my two cents and say that people at large venue sporting events drive me nuts when they are on the cell phone with a friend who is also there saying, "I'm here see me waving" and then proceed to wave, jump and make a fool of themselves because that other person has no clue where to look and is doing the exact same thing. It just never works well for either party.
2008-05-13 13:52:21
46.   Humma Kavula
When I take a step backwards, I feel society use two hands to operate a hands-free cellphone device.
2008-05-13 13:52:26
47.   underdog
39 - Hooray! I'd still rather have Andruw in there than Pierre, but I guess it's good they're sitting him. And Ethier! Victory!

Now a real victory would be even sweeter.

Hope that good Penny shows up, not bad Penny.

2008-05-13 13:54:00
48.   Ken Noe
Given the realistic possibilities, I'm just fine with that lineup, except Kent at cleanup?
2008-05-13 13:54:05
49.   tjdub
I'll admit, I don't even know my wife's cell phone number. If someone else asks for it I have to look it up in my contacts list.
2008-05-13 13:54:44
50.   MC Safety
When I see a comment with the words Blake DeWitt, our 3rd baseman of the future, ops+ 1 something something, The Solution, his job to lose, etc., I think we as a society have taken a step backward.
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2008-05-13 13:55:28
51.   Eric Enders
When Juan Pierre batting leadoff constitutes "victory," I think we as a society have taken a step backward.
2008-05-13 13:55:37
52.   underdog
41 So basically, everything at Dodger Stadium, then. How do you feel about incessant booing?
2008-05-13 13:56:08
53.   Humma Kavula
41 4th inning arrivals, seat confusion

A comment on these two.

I never used to arrive late or leave early. Since Spawn of Kavula came on the scene, she has made the rules. Now we arrive late and leave early.

WRT seat "confusion"... well, I'm not confused, but my seats are sometimes in the sun. We often sit a few rows back, in the shade. If someone comes claiming those seats, we vacate them quickly. Often, no one comes. Why not take advantage of the empty, shaded seats?

2008-05-13 13:57:06
54.   Ken Noe
45 True story: young woman sits down behind me at an Auburn football game, promptly calls her friend sitting across the field, waves her arms mightily, and squeals "I'm wearing orange." Yeah, you and 87,450 other people.
2008-05-13 13:57:21
55.   Jon Weisman
My original post was intended with a lighthearted tone that I realize may not have come through.
2008-05-13 13:58:24
56.   Physics DR
When I was younger I never had to use two hands
2008-05-13 13:58:33
57.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
0 What are the two hands doing to operated a hands-free cell phone? One hand "holding" the ear-piece, and the other holding the phone?

When holding a cell-phone while driving becomes illegal in California in less than two months, I predict a lot of policemen will get bored of pulling over drivers, ticketing them, explaining the law, dealing with the "I didn't know that!"... and then begin seeing the next several years as a repetition of the above procedure until they have pulled over every single driver in the state and personally told them about the "new" law.

2008-05-13 13:59:20
58.   Eric Stephen
When Michael Jackson unleashed the moonwalk on the 1980s, he took several steps backwards.
2008-05-13 13:59:54
59.   MC Safety
55 If that was directed at me, I was totally joking.
2008-05-13 14:00:06
60.   Eric Enders
I don't have anything against 4th inning arrivals or people who are confused about their seats. The former may work long hours and the latter may be visiting the stadium for the first time. I'd be more inclined to welcome them than complain about them. (Unless they start talking into their phone and waving at a camera.)
2008-05-13 14:00:45
61.   old dodger fan
The really great thing about Bluetooth is I can talk to myself and no one thinks I'm crazy.
2008-05-13 14:00:53
62.   Eric Enders
I echo 59 ...
2008-05-13 14:01:42
63.   blue22
People standing in the aisles with no regard as to the people's whose view he is blocking. And then he just kinda continues to stand there, and you're like "what the heck are you waiting for, you're not talking to anyone, you're not looking at anyone, you're just kinda zoning out there Sparky, where's a rogue foulball when you need one?"

That bugs me, even when it's not my view they're blocking.

Does Dodger Stadium still allow you to walk down the aisle in the middle of an at bat?

2008-05-13 14:02:42
64.   Humma Kavula
+1 to 59 . For my part, it's clear you were kidding around. I also think that most of the riffs on your original post have been really funny.
2008-05-13 14:02:59
65.   Kevin Lewis
Just a quick heads up before I collapse from exhaustions. Our baby was born Monday, May 12th at 3:42 am. Both Mom and Baby are healthy, and we are loving every minute.

Kev

2008-05-13 14:03:56
66.   Humma Kavula
65 Congratulations! Great news! Boy or girl?
2008-05-13 14:04:37
67.   Kevin Lewis
Boy...

Myles Parker Lewis

8 pounds 2 ounces (my poor wife)

19 1/2 inches

2008-05-13 14:05:04
68.   LoneStar7
When the LA times posts Orange County Angels stories right above LA's team, I feel we as a city have taken a step backwards.
2008-05-13 14:05:17
69.   Kevin Lewis
Now I really will go and collapse
2008-05-13 14:05:21
70.   Eric Stephen
65
The world welcomes another Dodger fan! Congrats.
2008-05-13 14:06:12
71.   SortaLaSorda
Does Andruw Jones have a cell phone? Could we text him some hitting tips? If he reached for the phone to answer it, would he miss?
2008-05-13 14:06:37
72.   Physics DR
65 Just remember: Babies are never exhausted, moms are. You are third.

Congratulations

2008-05-13 14:07:03
73.   Jon Weisman
59 - It wasn't directed at anyone in particular.
2008-05-13 14:08:31
74.   Jon Weisman
67 - Vin Scully would make a "Myles to go before you sleep" joke. Congrats!
2008-05-13 14:14:07
75.   MC Safety
73 Ok, good. It was getting fun, I didn't want to be the one who killed it.
2008-05-13 14:16:36
76.   Bob Timmermann
67
That kid will never lose.
2008-05-13 14:16:54
77.   StolenMonkey86
65, 67 - Congratulations!
2008-05-13 14:18:31
78.   ToyCannon
67
Congrats

50
So is this two steps backwards?
http://tinyurl.com/5aq2hc

2008-05-13 14:18:37
79.   kinbote
Is it really possible Andruw Jones has passed Juan Pierre on the least-want-to-see-in-the-lineup list?

We've come a long way, baby.

2008-05-13 14:20:06
80.   Disabled List
67 Myles Parker Lewis

I like that TV show too, but don't you think that's going a bit too far?

Congrats though.

2008-05-13 14:20:57
81.   68elcamino427
67
Congratulations! The lovefest is on!
2008-05-13 14:21:11
82.   Xeifrank
Dodger Win Probabilities:

Simulator: 47.13%
LV Hilton: 52.38%
AccuScore: 53.80%

vr, Xei

2008-05-13 14:22:52
83.   68elcamino427
79
Is that a sign ...
2008-05-13 14:25:11
84.   Eric Stephen
79
Is it really possible Andruw Jones has passed Juan Pierre on the least-want-to-see-in-the-lineup list?

Not according to the recent DT gallup poll. 29 of 44 voters (66%) preferred Andruw in the OF, as opposed to 8 of 44 (18%) for Pierre.

2008-05-13 14:25:59
85.   MC Safety
78 Is that a Frank Zappa reference at the end of the first paragraph?
2008-05-13 14:28:11
86.   Dodger Dawg
Andruw had said after he signed, that he'd like to finish his career as a Dodger. Be careful what you wish for Andruw!
2008-05-13 14:28:41
87.   GoBears
I went to the game on Friday (if I get around to it later, I'll post about the Sweet Lou talk before the game). About 3 rows in front of us was a group of 20-somethings (maybe 6 of them) who could not manage to sit in their seats for more than one AB at a time. They were up constantly - sometimes going for food or beer, but mostly just standing there talking to each other, mugging for cell-phone camera shots, and generally being oblivious. Two of the girls, I'm pretty sure, did not look at the field even once the entire game. EVERYONE back to the row behind us was hollering at them (first nicely, then less and less so) to please sit down so that the rest of us could, you know, watch the game. It was as if they didn't hear us. Never an acknowledgment. Never did they sit down in response to their neighbors. It was really unbelievable. By the 5th inning or so, it wasn't even annoying any more - just fascinating to watch such unabashed selfishness. After the 7th, they just up and left. I have no idea why they chose Dodger Stadium as the venue for their evening.

Especially while Vinnie is working the mic - if you really want to WATCH a Dodger game, you're much better off at home in front of the TV.

I could see the scoreboard, and I guess it didn't matter that much that I couldn't see the game - that probably would have annoyed me even more.

2008-05-13 14:29:00
88.   68elcamino427
84
Ok, given the choice of only one of these three players to play left field for the Dodgers over the next 14 games:

Young

Pierre

Jones

???

2008-05-13 14:29:40
89.   Jacob L
79 , 84 Using best anguished Sean Penn voice from "Falcon and the Snowman." --

I don't know who to trust any more! I don't know who my friends are!

2008-05-13 14:31:24
90.   Sac Town Dodger Fan
Maybe Andruw needs to go see the same sports shrink who was helping Hendrickson a few years back. Its all in his head!
2008-05-13 14:31:49
91.   silverwidow
88 I pick LaRoche.
2008-05-13 14:32:21
92.   Eric Stephen
88
Jones (in CF, with Ethier in LF)
2008-05-13 14:33:05
93.   Sac Town Dodger Fan
90 Not that Hendrickson lit the baseball world on fire after his sessions, but still.
2008-05-13 14:33:24
94.   Eric Stephen
88
Just curious, why did you choose the 14 game period?
2008-05-13 14:33:26
95.   tjdub
86 It seems increasingly clear that he already finished his career as a Brave.
2008-05-13 14:33:36
96.   bhsportsguy
Laker cleared to start basketball activites

It is not Bynum but Trevor Ariza.

Probably not going to be used in this series but if the Lakers get pass Utah, he could be part of the rotation by the next series.

2008-05-13 14:33:58
97.   Eric Enders
88 Pee Wee.
2008-05-13 14:34:43
98.   Jacob L
87 That reminds me of the various times when people near me have talked their way through entire concerts. It happens a lot at the Hollywood Bowl, and its fairly understandable. Tickets are cheap. Its more of an outing than strictly a concert.

My level of irritation rises in relation to the ticket prices. I paid a pretty good amount of money to see (and hear) Willie Nelson at the Greek, and when I asked the people behind us to please be quiet so we could listen to the music, they acted all put out. They shut up for 5 minutes at the most, then kept on a'gabbin. These kids today.

2008-05-13 14:34:44
99.   fanerman
Congrats!
2008-05-13 14:35:25
100.   Eric Stephen
96
I'm not sure how the NBA rules are, but aren't the rosters set for each round of the playoffs? So in other words, Ariza would have to be active already to be eligible against Utah. I'm not sure if he was activated or not.
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2008-05-13 14:35:35
101.   GoBears
On the cell phone thing - I remember reading a study from Japan about hands-free devices a few years ago. The conclusion was that they don't matter. Hands-free or hand-held, it's the conversation that distracts the driver, not the technology. On its face, it seems a little odd that there'd be no difference, but there it was.

On a cognitive level, I guess it's plausible. After all, how many of us have cut off a conversation with a passenger, or perhaps turned off the radio, upon hitting heavy traffic, or seeing a cop, or running into bad weather? On the phone, your interlocutor can't see what's happening and know to shut up. And for several reasons, the driver has to concentrate more on a phone conversation than they would on an in-person conversation.

2008-05-13 14:36:40
102.   bhsportsguy
100 Nope its a game by game like the regular season. Just have to decide which of the 12 are eligible that day.
2008-05-13 14:36:44
103.   dianagramr
When I see someone using a Bluetooth device, I believe we have taken one step towards being assimilated by the Borg.
2008-05-13 14:37:01
104.   KG16
80 - beat me to the joke...

14 - I'm not sure, wasn't looking at any stats, just sort of a visceral observation, if you will. I find it hard to believe that removing any hitter from any line up for 15 games will cause the entire team to lose it's stroke. That was more my point. What the number one hitter does (or doesn't do) should not really affect the 6-7-8 hitters (unless they happen to be on base when the lead off man is hitting into a double play, but that has more to do with runs scored than getting on base in the first place).

2008-05-13 14:38:33
105.   bhsportsguy
104 I think the issue with Furcal is that the replacement has such a big drop off plus his absence necessitates other moves like Pierre batting leadoff.
2008-05-13 14:39:27
106.   68elcamino427
94
That should give Young 40-50 at bats to see what he can do without looking over his shoulder. He looks like a great hitter.
2008-05-13 14:40:45
107.   dianagramr
Is Ethier too tall to play 3rd?

(yes yes I know he's never played the position)

2008-05-13 14:41:30
108.   kinbote
84 Way to use data to support an argument. That's just not fair! ;) Actually, that fits in with one of Jon's recurrent themes on this blog: perception vs. reality. The perception is that Jones is the more vilified, but in reality, we still hate us some Pierre.
2008-05-13 14:41:36
109.   KG16
103 - resistance is futile.
2008-05-13 14:41:48
110.   Zak
When people go to baseball games and expect everyone there to behave as they would, then I feel that society has taken a step back.

A lot of comments here are people trying to be funny, but some of the whining about people's behavior and actions at a baseball outing is really in poor taste.

2008-05-13 14:41:57
111.   D4P
Ethier's too left-handed to play 3rd.
2008-05-13 14:43:02
112.   Gilberto Reyes
55 I picked up the lightharded tone, but I did enjoy the comedic riffs on your original post. You have to rememember that we are all suffering during this 4 game losing streak and need an outlet.

52 I am against booing of the home team players, but I can understand people's frustrations. Booing of ex-Dodgers like Piazza and Green never makes sense to me either.

2008-05-13 14:44:34
113.   Bob Timmermann
Booing Mike Piazza would be akin to booing a Cherokee Indian visiting Georgia.
2008-05-13 14:45:32
114.   cargill06
111 that never stopped don mattingley

whenever i see a LH 3b in my softball games, it just looks so funny and not right even if they're good at it.

2008-05-13 14:45:57
115.   KG16
105 - but what is the actual drop off in a single game? you go from a guy who goes 2-5 (a near .400 hitter has Furcal has been) to a guy who goes 1-4 (a .250 hitter, as one would expect from an average shortstop). So you lose one hit in a game?

Granted, there are other things that change. Maybe Furcal takes more pitches, thus allowing his team mates to see what the pitcher has that day. By getting on base one extra time, that means the pitcher has to work more from the stretch, thereby taking something off his stuff. The defense has to shift, thereby allowing something that would have been a ground ball out to become a base hit. But then what about the innings in which Furcal's spot isn't up?

All that said, I will agree that the biggest problem is that this means Pierre gets more playing time.

2008-05-13 14:48:07
116.   Humma Kavula
109 I almost typed that, and then I remembered my personal vendetta against that phrase because of the way the Borg pronounced the last word.

I mean, really. "Few-tie-ull?" What's wrong with "few-tle?" It's just the Borg's efforts to make themselves grander by adding an unnecessary syllable.

Don't help the Borg, people.

2008-05-13 14:48:14
117.   fanerman
113
The white man's greed, in search of gold
Made the nation bleed
They lost their faith
And now they hade to learn
There was no place to return
Nowhere they could turn.

Cherokee - marching on the trail of tears.

2008-05-13 14:50:04
118.   dianagramr
115

Jones has been seeing 4.42 pitches per PA this year, by far the highest in his career (3.96 last year was previous high).

2008-05-13 14:50:49
119.   Bob Timmermann
Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Paul Revere & The Raiders.
They took the whole Cherokee nation
And put us on this reservation
They took away our ways of life
The tomahawk and the bow and knife

They took away our native tongue
And taught their English to our young
And all the beads we made by hand
Are nowadays made in Japan

That was one of the first songs I remember hearing on the radio as a kid. It came out when I was five.

2008-05-13 14:52:05
120.   blue22
115 - Sure, losing Furcal hurts both in his missing offensive contribution but also the "necessary" additions of Hu and Pierre. But, to my response to your post earlier, I think it's just a lot of guys slumping at the same time (veterans and young'ns alike). And since this team needs to hit a lot of singles to be an effective offense, you'll hit dry spells like this from time to time.
2008-05-13 14:52:19
121.   Bob Timmermann
Old enemy Fernando Tatis is back in the majors with the Mets.
2008-05-13 14:52:20
122.   regfairfield
If you assume that Furcal and Hu continue play exactly as they have this year Furcal is worth about .85 runs a game more on offense.

If you use their projected numbers, it's .04 runs in Furcal's favor.

2008-05-13 14:54:04
123.   Bob Timmermann
Tony Jackson has admitted that "Love, Actually" is one of his favorite movies.
2008-05-13 14:57:47
124.   dianagramr
121

hmmm ..... should Wright be concerned?

2008-05-13 14:58:17
125.   trainwreck
123
I think Tony Jackson really hates traveling and pretty much everything.
2008-05-13 14:59:22
126.   Eric Enders
He doesn't hate sleeping in the dugout.
2008-05-13 14:59:26
127.   KG16
I only remember one inning of Tatis' career, and yet, that is more than enough for me to spit everytime I say his name.
2008-05-13 14:59:59
128.   trainwreck
Tony Jackson=D4P
2008-05-13 15:01:06
129.   fanerman
119 One of the only CD's my roommate and I can agree on when driving to places is Europe - The Final Countdown (album). So I've heard their "Cherokee" song far too many times. I will listen to this new song when I get the chance.
2008-05-13 15:05:54
130.   Eric Stephen
There was a pretty funny instance of a modified Rule 13 on Saturday Night Live this past weekend.
2008-05-13 15:07:00
131.   ToyCannon
At one time Rob Neyer picked Tatis as his 3rd baseman for the first decade of the 21st century. He really did seem like a player who was going to have quite a career.
He and Ben Grieve can have a few beers and talk about what it was like to be a star at 22 and an after thought at 25.
2008-05-13 15:11:14
132.   GoBears
110. Zak
When people go to baseball games and expect everyone there to behave as they would, then I feel that society has taken a step back.

A lot of comments here are people trying to be funny, but some of the whining about people's behavior and actions at a baseball outing is really in poor taste.

See, when I was a kid, there was this thing called "The Golden Rule," which said that you should only do unto others as you would have others do unto you. Now, to wish that others would at least TRY to follow that rule too is apparently "in poor taste."

Of course I don't expect others to be as well-behaved (and socially aware) as I try to be (in the sense of predicting that they will be). But I don't see why I'm a bad guy for bemoaning selfish behavior in others, no matter now predictable.

2008-05-13 15:14:58
133.   scareduck
119 - that's so weird because I can remember the lyrics but not the song.
2008-05-13 15:19:46
134.   PDH5204
Aniyunwiya, and not Cherokee.

Sioux, the English bastardization of Nadouessioux, the French bastardization of the Ojibwe, Nadowisiwug ["little snakes"]

Iroquois, the Ojibwe, Nadowebog ["big snakes"]

2008-05-13 15:26:55
135.   ToyCannon
132
Our usher in the cheap seats would have taken care of the situation. I'm surprised your usher did not handle it. They allow alot of things at DS but standing and blocking fans views is not one of them.
2008-05-13 15:27:20
136.   underdog
Not sure how or why I still trust Tony Jackson with anything following his terrifying Love Actually decree, but anyway, here's his latest on Nomar, to be filed under Don't Expect a Lot of Nomar This Season:

>>He ran a little bit in the outfield during the early workout today, but the left calf still isn't ready for live game action. ``I felt like I could push it more, so that was good,'' he said. ``I was able to run harder. But at the same time, I couldn't do as much as I wanted to do. There was some tightness and some soreness there, so I had to back off. I did push it to the ceiling, but I still need some time. There is no need to go backward.'' Nomar said he will try some baseball activity -- in layman's terms, that means taking ground balls and possibly batting practice -- tomorrow.<<

2008-05-13 15:29:03
137.   nofatmike
1 "When I see someone using a cell phone, I feel like we as a society have taken a step backward."

When I see someone complain about people using cell phones, I get an image of an old man yelling at a bunch of kids to keep their skateboards off the sidewalk.

2008-05-13 15:29:30
138.   Zak
132 I was never picking on anyone in particular. I am actually a big believer in Do Unto Others... however, I am not big on wishing that everyone should follow my rule and vice versa. Anyway, I did not direct my comment at you at all. Like I said, some of the stuff was just said to be funny, but my wife and kids go to games and sometimes vie to be on camera and are super excited when on camera, and I think it's poor taste that some people think they should be Shot on Sight (even in jest) for where they sit and how they act.
2008-05-13 15:31:21
139.   Jon Weisman
I liked "Love, Actually."
2008-05-13 15:31:41
140.   Eric Enders
137 I don't own the sidewalk. But they'd better keep them off my lawn!
2008-05-13 15:32:32
141.   Eric Stephen
Here is the Milwaukee lineup this evening:

2B Rickie Weeks
CF Mike Cameron
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Bill Hall
SS JJ Hardy
P Carlos Villanueva
C Jason Kendall

Ryan Braun has a Choiish four solo homers in his last two games.

2008-05-13 15:33:05
142.   GoBears
132. I wish. I didn't see an usher anywhere near our section the whole game, except at the top of the stairs before the game to direct people to their seats. We were in the Reserved Level, Sec. 20.

About the only people I forgive for blocking my view during an at bat are parents with babies who need to leave their seats for maintenance purposes. And even then, they need to move quickly, not stop and take pictures and indulge in unrelenting group hugs.

2008-05-13 15:33:15
143.   Sammy Maudlin
87 Sorry dude! We didn't know what to do after the usher took our beachball.
2008-05-13 15:33:36
144.   Bulldog1988
I will admit that when I attend games I act goofy to try and get on Dodger Vision at the stadium, that is fun. Especially for kids to see themselves that is a good time. However, my better half would be mortified if I did ever make it up on Dodger Vision because that would mean I did something very out there to get attention. And I have been known to do some pretty um. . .interesting things to get something at sporting events. I can be counted on to scream the loudest when something is on the line.
2008-05-13 15:34:59
145.   underdog
139 Would you call it one of your all-time favorite films, though? (I didn't mind the film at all, I just, you know, could survive without seeing it again...)
2008-05-13 15:36:39
146.   fanerman
So what is the current list of TJax's likes and dislikes?
2008-05-13 15:36:41
147.   KingKopitar
101 Yeah, that whole cell phone thing is going to really bother because I can drive just fine when I am talking on the phone. Why? Because I drive safely all the time. The people who can't drive safely with a phone in their hand are the people who can't drive safely.
2008-05-13 15:39:27
148.   Bob Timmermann
I'm just wondering about a person who has a top 10 films list of all time that includes BOTH "Love, Actually" and "Varsity Blues."
2008-05-13 15:43:04
149.   still bevens
146
likes: movies
hates: elevators
2008-05-13 15:45:46
150.   GoBears
138 That stuff is different. The mugging for the camera stuff takes place between innings. They don't show crowd shots on the jumbotron while the game is in progress. I have no problem with people goofing around between innings.

What irks me (more and more as I get older) is when people show absolutely no concern for how their behavior affects others. Sometimes, they're consciously telling those around them to "just deal with it," but most of the time, it's mere obliviousness.

These folks that I was "whining" about, however, could not have been unaware, since 20-30 people were trying to make them aware. Even if they didn't speak English (which they did, loudly), they'd have known that their neighbors were being hugely inconvenienced. I feel vindicated by the fact that the strangers around me, all younger than I am, including a group of college kids, were even more annoyed than I was.

People make mistakes. An "oops, I'm sorry" and quick sit-down would have been absolutely OK with everyone. What we got was 7 innings of, essentially, a middle finger in our faces.

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2008-05-13 15:45:54
151.   Bob Timmermann
The Kamenetzky brothers hate the Dodger Stadium elevators also.
2008-05-13 15:47:10
152.   Jon Weisman
145 - No, but I tend to rewatch parts of it if I see it on cable.
2008-05-13 15:48:15
153.   MC Safety
146

Dislikes-The new lights, elevators, Chad Billingsley, and Andre Ethier.

Likes-The Crow (kidding),Varsity Blues, Love, Actually, floral print Hawaiian style shirts.

That's all I've got so far.

2008-05-13 15:50:21
154.   fanerman
Wasn't there some artist/song that also received some discussion?
2008-05-13 15:50:31
155.   Bob Timmermann
152
"Love, Actually" is showing on one of the HBO channels at all times. One day Laura Linney's character will find true love.
2008-05-13 15:51:18
156.   ImprobableImpossible
154
Journey
2008-05-13 15:52:03
157.   underdog
153 Don't forget Juan Pierre and 70s/80s hard rock in the Likes column.
2008-05-13 15:54:15
158.   regfairfield
Has there ever been a movie about the guy whose life gets ruined by Hugh Grant in these romantic comedies? Seems like it would be good.
2008-05-13 15:54:16
159.   Eric Enders
I think Tony Jackson has lightened up on Billingsley this year. Even when Chad has been getting lit up, there has been relatively little carping.

Even more remarkable, Ken Gurnick wrote a Q&A yesterday which mentioned Andy LaRoche without saying anything derogatory.

2008-05-13 15:54:44
160.   bhsportsguy
155 Her character in Love Actually and Mrs. Adams could not be more different. Mrs. Adams would never let anyone treat her like that.
2008-05-13 15:55:21
161.   bhsportsguy
159 Of course Terry Tiffee got more ink than Andy.
2008-05-13 15:56:01
162.   Marty
Actually, I've never seen Love, Actually. Actually.
2008-05-13 15:56:17
163.   Marty
Oh, and Congratulations Kevin?
2008-05-13 15:56:33
164.   Eric Enders
I saw it and remember very little of it, which tells you how much of an impression it made.
2008-05-13 15:56:52
165.   Marty
I have no idea how that question mark got in there.
2008-05-13 15:57:20
166.   bhsportsguy
Yes, congrats Kevin, though your child's name brings the song "Hip to be Square" to mind.
2008-05-13 15:58:22
167.   Marty
As to the topic at hand, I try at all times to not be annoyed at other people's behavior. It doesn't always work, but I'm a big believer in choosing the right battles.
2008-05-13 15:58:52
168.   Bob Timmermann
In "Love, Actually" Hugh Grant doesn't take a woman away from another guy.
2008-05-13 15:59:41
169.   regfairfield
168 I suppose there's a first time for everything.
2008-05-13 16:01:34
170.   Andrew Shimmin
One of the necessary preconditions to my ever getting a dog now exists (thought it's probably too expensive, yet). The other one (not coincidentally, it's an automated approach to the other reason people walk dogs) remains outstanding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRi0m329iL4&

2008-05-13 16:02:52
171.   Zak
150 I agree with most of what you said, and again my comment was not directed at you. I just think some comments here were in poor taste and, in my opinion, a little offensive. Anyway, this Tony Jackson love/hate discussion is definitely livelier, and like Bob, I am also deeply vested in Laura Linney finding true love. It would be double cool if she found it with Keira Knightly.
2008-05-13 16:03:27
172.   ImprobableImpossible
My first date with my now-wife actually included a showing of "Love, Actually."

Hurray, chick flicks!

2008-05-13 16:04:52
173.   Gilberto Reyes
Today's game can't come soon enough! We have resorted to talking about Hugh Grant chick flicks that Tony Jackson loves.
2008-05-13 16:05:40
174.   bhsportsguy
171 Family site reminder.
2008-05-13 16:07:48
175.   Ken Noe
Rotoworld reports Abreu to the 60 day DL. Don't think I saw that posted earlier.
2008-05-13 16:08:05
176.   underdog
171 "I am also deeply vested in Laura Linney finding true love. It would be double cool if she found it with Keira Knightly."

Or me!

Er, wait, I have a g/f. Well, I'm sure she'd understand.

Btw, speaking of "chick-flicks", I watched Cranford on DVD this week (it's been airing on PBS, too) - comes out to DVD officially next week - and it was great. I usually enjoy Jane Austen films but little else set in that period, but this one is a good "date rental." (Except it's long. It'll be a long multi-part date, then.)

Go Dodgers!

2008-05-13 16:08:36
177.   underdog
Oops, and here I am reposting it, too.
2008-05-13 16:11:30
178.   bhsportsguy
176 Probably a little quick on that take. (me)
2008-05-13 16:12:29
179.   MC Safety
157 I realized I messed up by not adding Juan Pierre to the likes, but I had no idea he publicly stated he liked Journey.
2008-05-13 16:13:28
180.   underdog
Oh well, at least the Dodgers didn't sign Journey to a long term contract.
2008-05-13 16:14:50
181.   GMac In The 909
172 They showed that movie at the reunion?
2008-05-13 16:15:25
182.   ImprobableImpossible
179
April 17 entry
"...stop on the way out to listen to some dude absolutely butcher one of the greatest songs of all time (Journey's Don't Stop Believin')..."

Yes, I'm that bored.

2008-05-13 16:15:53
183.   gibsonhobbs88
150 - I think by the third inning I would have gone to an usher and complained vehemently about that group's behavior and taken a couple other witnesses with me that were equally annoyed. There is no excuse for that especially at the prices we are paying for those seats. One thing Petco Park does have over us is that they don't allow people back into their seats until a break in the action occurs, i.e. middle of inning, pitching change, beach ball on field, ect... Unfortunately you can't do anything about people leaving in the middle of an at bat and the Dodger ushers do nothing about stopping people from coming back to their seats until a break occurs. It always seems someone right in front is getting back to their seat blocking my view right when there is a bases loaded 2-2 count coming up and the game on the line.

I feel your pain!!

2008-05-13 16:19:44
184.   MC Safety
182 That's hilarious, thanks. Ouch.
2008-05-13 16:29:21
185.   MC Safety
January Jones is a funny name.

How cool would it be to be named May May.

2008-05-13 16:31:57
186.   still bevens
Steve Perry was in the audience during the 4+1 game. His 'Dont Stop Believin' attitude won the day, my friends.
2008-05-13 16:39:31
187.   Bluebleeder87
Sorry if this was posted already (lineup)

Pierre LF (bat him 8th or 9th even!!)

Ethier RF

Kemp (I'm cool with him batting 3rd actually)

Kent 2b

Loney 1b (is he in a slump or something??)

Martin C (I'd like him batting 2nd)

DeWitt 3b

Hu SS (Finally get to see what the "big deal" is with him)

Penny (bat him 8th & Pierre 9th, yep that's works...)

2008-05-13 16:43:06
188.   underdog
Okay, got an invite to go see "Iron Man" after work so I'll be catching the game in the archives late tonight. Enjoy and good luck to the blue crew over the brew crew!
2008-05-13 16:45:37
189.   El Lay Dave
185 I once knew an April May.

I first date I asked my wife out on was a Springsteen concert at the Sports Arena, 1984. It was still a month away, so I actually took her on a different date before the concert.

2008-05-13 16:45:51
190.   silverwidow
UPDATE: May 17 starter is down to Park or Kuo (D. Leung). It's not going to be Kershaw (sounds like yesterday's performance really hurt his chance).

Personally, I'm relieved. He shouldn't come up until July, IMO.

2008-05-13 16:50:03
191.   Bluebleeder87
I'd like K/Guo go be the starter but if they give the ball to Park I wont be disappointed.
2008-05-13 16:51:45
192.   Jon Weisman
That's Mad Men's January Jones to you, sir.
2008-05-13 16:52:58
193.   Eric Enders
I thought her best work was in Melquiades Estrada.
2008-05-13 16:54:22
194.   MC Safety
189 Nice! I bet you don't know a Harry Harris, though.
2008-05-13 16:57:01
195.   Ranma
At the risk of pulling another one of my Johnny-come-lately stunts, here is an ESPN piece on Yu Darvish, who Jim Caple has dubbed Dice-K 2.0:

Most observers feel he either is already as good as Matsuzaka or soon will be. "I think his numbers in Japan are going to be equally as phenomenal as he continues to move on, barring injury, as Dice-K's were in Japan," Hillman says. "He's got a different type of frame. Dice-K's got a more powerful frame, but Darvish has looser levers and a taller frame with more whip, and I think that gives him an opportunity to have more powerful and more electric secondary pitches as well as a fastball.

http://tinyurl.com/4zpa96

2008-05-13 16:57:54
196.   Bluebleeder87
Some cool stuff on Hu from Wikipedia>>> Chin-Lung Hu (Traditional Chinese: 胡金龍) (born February 2, 1984 in Tainan City, Taiwan) is a Major League Baseball shortstop for Los Angeles Dodgers. Hu is the fifth MLB player and the first MLB infielder from Taiwan. He has the shortest last name for a player in Major League history.

Hu was signed by the Dodgers on January 31, 2003 and began his professional career with the rookie league Ogden Raptors in 2003. He split 2004 between the Columbus Catfish in A ball and the Vero Beach Dodgers in high-A ball. In 2005 he played the whole season at Vero Beach and hit .313 with 23 stolen bases.In 2006, he played for Taiwan in the 2006 World Baseball Classic and then returned to play for the AA Jacksonville Suns. Hu played in the All-Star Futures Game during the All-Star break in both 2006 & 2007. He won the MVP award for his performance in the 2007 game. 1

He was promoted to AAA Las Vegas on July 12, 2007. Hu made his major league debut on September 1, 2007 against the San Diego Padres.In his second MLB at-bat, Hu hit a left-field solo home run on September 11, 2007 against the Padres, becoming the first position player born in Taiwan to hit a home run in MLB. (Hu's teammate, pitcher Hong-Chih Kuo, had become the first Taiwanese-born player to hit a home run in MLB earlier in 2007.) On September 25, Hu hit a two-run homer and became the first Taiwanese-born player to hit two home runs.

2008-05-13 16:58:15
197.   Icaros
I went to the same school as a Mitch Mitchell.
2008-05-13 16:59:07
198.   Eric Enders
196 "He has the shortest last name for a player in Major League history."

Vin can't be happy that his idol has been displaced.

2008-05-13 16:59:45
199.   El Lay Dave
192 Oh, to be the January Man.
2008-05-13 17:00:23
200.   Icaros
He has the shortest last name for a player in Major League history.

I thought that was Dr. K.

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2008-05-13 17:05:55
201.   Dane Bramage
One of my best friends is actually named Ricky Riccardo, no kidding.

In other news, while I'm forever loyal to the Dodgers efforts in tonight's game against the Brew Crew, I'm torn since I work for the their principal owner (under the aegis of his "day job") and it smacks of disloyalty to the man who signs my paychecks to root against his team...

2008-05-13 17:07:42
202.   Bluebleeder87
Collective Mojo we seak (sp?) your powers tonight...
2008-05-13 17:08:36
203.   MC Safety
199 Yeah, she's pretty hot. She kind of looks like Jenna Elfman.
2008-05-13 17:08:37
204.   Marty
I know a Brook Trout.
2008-05-13 17:09:04
205.   D4P
The Brewers have a whopping one player OPSing over .800.

I love that Kendall bats 9th.

2008-05-13 17:09:41
206.   MC Safety
I wonder if anyone has ever known a Daniel Daniels.
2008-05-13 17:10:18
207.   KG16
wow, did Pierre really hit the ball all the way to the wall in centerfield? if so, how was that not at least a triple, did the Brewers not get the note about playing him shallow?
2008-05-13 17:10:26
208.   Dane Bramage
I remember Kal Daniels...
2008-05-13 17:11:23
209.   Bluebleeder87
That swing RIGHT THERE is the swing I love to see, WOW!!
2008-05-13 17:11:43
210.   regfairfield
The Brewers have the problem of everyone of their players is a lefty masher with bad defense. It's kind of sad.
2008-05-13 17:11:46
211.   Bluebleeder87
...from Kemp.
2008-05-13 17:12:11
212.   KG16
so, has everyone been writing in Matt Kemp and Blake DeWitt for the all star ballot?
2008-05-13 17:13:05
213.   Bob Hendley
Whenever society sees me, it takes a step backward.
2008-05-13 17:14:27
214.   Bluebleeder87
it tells you two things A)he's waiting back on the ball really well & B) he's letting the ball get to zone. It was just great to see.
2008-05-13 17:14:36
215.   KG16
huh, the Dodgers with an early lead... that's different.

Also, am I the only one that likes/prefers the new gameday?

2008-05-13 17:14:59
216.   Marty
So, Milwaukee ended the Braun at third experiment. Was that a recent decision?
2008-05-13 17:15:18
217.   ryu
The first two hitters in the Brewers lineup (Weeks and Cameron) have batting averages of .188 and .180.
2008-05-13 17:15:30
218.   regfairfield
216 Beginning of the season.
2008-05-13 17:15:32
219.   fanerman
Yay!
2008-05-13 17:16:24
220.   ToyCannon
Nothing beats first row seats no matter how high the section. Nobody can bother you since your only looking at the game and you don't care what is happening behind you.

I once had the pleasure of seeing a few games in the 1st row of the lodge right above the 1st base dugout. Man those were sweet seats.

2008-05-13 17:16:31
221.   Bluebleeder87
It's sad, I didn't even notice A. Jones wasn't in the lineup. I really hope he gets back on track, seriously.
2008-05-13 17:17:07
222.   LoneStar7
that a way to start it Jeff, so Villanueva is 0-2 against righties and 3-0 against lefties..looks like that stat brought up earlier may be quite relevant..
2008-05-13 17:17:16
223.   KG16
was it wrong of me to want to see Loney foul off 15 pitches with the count full, just so Kent would have to start running with each pitch?
2008-05-13 17:17:40
224.   dzzrtRatt
Even more remarkable, Ken Gurnick wrote a Q&A yesterday which mentioned Andy LaRoche without saying anything derogatory.

Colletti: "Tell Gurnick the LaRoche-bashing is off for now. I'm trying to trade him for a shortstop and I need some good stuff to come up when other GMs Google him. Damn, is Mike Lowell back from that injury already? I wanted to see if I could trick that kid Epstein into giving me back Lugo."

2008-05-13 17:18:46
225.   D4P
The U.S. attorney's office filed 14 counts of perjury and one count of obstruction against Barry Bonds on Tuesday
2008-05-13 17:19:15
226.   ToyCannon
Has this been discussed? This is the 1st I've seen that Paul was put on the inactive list.
Los Angeles Dodgers
Recalled: RHP Yhency Brazoban
Placed on 7-day DL: 1B Jaime Ortiz
Placed on temporarily inactive list: OF Xavier Paul
2008-05-13 17:19:55
227.   Bluebleeder87
a few years back I had the pleasure if watching Kevin Brown warm-up before a game, I could have literally touched him that's how close I was.
2008-05-13 17:21:07
228.   regfairfield
220 First row on the top deck has a lot less leg room.
2008-05-13 17:21:28
229.   CanuckDodger
206 -- The Dodgers have a pitching prospect named Danny Danielson, don'tchaknow?
2008-05-13 17:22:20
230.   D4P
Penny's not throwing very hard...
2008-05-13 17:23:37
231.   El Lay Dave
220 I could have moved down to the first row of IR on Sunday, but it was in the sun, and I didn't want to jinx Kuroda's no-hitter by changing anything. ;)
2008-05-13 17:24:34
232.   Jim Hitchcock
227 Brown would have bitten your hand off.
2008-05-13 17:24:36
233.   Ken Noe
206 Virginia had a longtime congressman named Dan Daniels. In high school I played football against George George. His son, George George III, just walked on at Tech.
2008-05-13 17:25:05
234.   KG16
230 - as long as he's effective, I'm not complaining. Pitching isn't all about throwing hard, and two ground balls and a K is pretty good so far.
2008-05-13 17:26:47
235.   Bluebleeder87
232

probably. I was just in aw though...

2008-05-13 17:27:19
236.   Andrew Shimmin
That looked like it hurt.
2008-05-13 17:28:04
237.   Bluebleeder87
Nice first inning by Penny, you gotta look at the results NOT THE GUN, I'm happy with Penny's first inning.
2008-05-13 17:28:21
238.   Neal Pollack
Oy.
2008-05-13 17:28:31
239.   bhsportsguy
226 Paul played last night.

I believe the inactive list is like the hockey scratch list or in the NBA when you name your 3 inactive players or whatever it takes to get down to 12 players.

2008-05-13 17:29:46
240.   MC Safety
No! Not Hu!
2008-05-13 17:29:56
241.   regfairfield
237 You should look at the process, not the results.
2008-05-13 17:30:13
242.   bhsportsguy
206 I can't believe Bob did not refer to this guy.

http://tinyurl.com/5gks6t

2008-05-13 17:31:07
243.   fanerman
What happened to Hu?
2008-05-13 17:31:09
244.   ToyCannon
Clarify
2008-05-13 17:31:31
245.   D4P
Penny's soft-tossing equated to 10 Met runs in his last outing.
2008-05-13 17:32:05
246.   bhsportsguy
241 You sound like every math teacher I ever had.

Me: Why did I only get a 1/2 point on this question.
Teacher: You did not take all the steps necessary to show why Train A will get to the station before Train B.
Me: But I got the right answer.
Teacher: That's not the point.

2008-05-13 17:32:11
247.   Indiana Jon
206 I know a Daniel Daniels, although he usually goes by Danny Daniels. Why do you ask?
2008-05-13 17:32:16
248.   KG16
241 - the only stat that matters is the final score.
2008-05-13 17:33:17
249.   KG16
245 - pitching is like real estate: location, location, location.
2008-05-13 17:33:22
250.   Andrew Shimmin
Hu fouled one off his ankle. After grounding out, he ran, convincingly to first. But after the out was recorded, he seemed to limp a bit. He's still out there.
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2008-05-13 17:33:38
251.   fanerman
241 For today. Penny throwing slow would be pretty concerning in the future if he kept it up.
2008-05-13 17:34:09
252.   fanerman
251 Oops. That should be for 248 .
2008-05-13 17:35:43
253.   regfairfield
246 Having a good process is more likely to lead to better future results.
2008-05-13 17:36:10
254.   KG16
251 - I don't know about that, if he developed into more of a finesse pitcher, with the ability to occasionally bring down the hammer, would that be a bad thing?

Think Greg Maddux with a Ryan fastball

2008-05-13 17:38:22
255.   Andrew Shimmin
254- If Penny lost his heat, the chances he'd become Greg Maddux are roughly equal to the chances I'd become a fighter pilot if I lost my fear of tightly enclosed places.

Hardly anybody is Greg Maddux.

2008-05-13 17:38:54
256.   KG16
253 - but who is the arbiter of what is a good process and what is not? Might not a good process tonight be a bad process tomorrow, depending on other factors?
2008-05-13 17:39:02
257.   El Lay Dave
246 "But in the new approach, as you know, the important thing is to understand what you're doing, rather than to get the right answer."
- Tom Lehrer, "New Math"
2008-05-13 17:39:28
258.   MC Safety
I underestimated the name Daniel.
2008-05-13 17:39:36
259.   Andrew Shimmin
Strike three to Hall was 95 MPH. Crisis averted.
2008-05-13 17:40:27
260.   El Lay Dave
There's a strikeout when he needed it.
2008-05-13 17:41:20
261.   ToyCannon
E Jackson dealing again against the Yankee's. Is anyone here not hoping for a Tampa Bay sweep or am I the only who even cares?
2008-05-13 17:41:22
262.   El Lay Dave
My parents knew a man named Frank Frank.

I once worked somewhere where this real name came across my desk frequently: Mrs. Olive Pitts.

2008-05-13 17:41:37
263.   KG16
255 - I think you missed my point. I'm not saying he lost his heat, or even that he should. I simply mean to say that I think his overall game would improve if he were able to add some finesse pitching to his power stuff. Hardly anyone is Greg Maddux and hardly anyone is Nolan Ryan, either. But a little from column A and a little from column B could be a good thing.
2008-05-13 17:42:02
264.   Indiana Jon
Hardly anybody is Greg Maddux.

A quick search of Yahoo revealed at least 34 Greg Maddux's across several states, so it is rare but not impossible.

2008-05-13 17:42:17
265.   regfairfield
261 I get money if the Rays win 77 games, so I'm happy.
2008-05-13 17:43:26
266.   D4P
I have a feeling that Milwaukee might be just what the doctor ordered.
2008-05-13 17:44:06
267.   Indiana Jon
261 I hope for the Yankees to get swept in every series they ever play. A Yankee loss to me is the second greatest thing that can happen on any given night of the baseball season.
2008-05-13 17:45:00
268.   Bob Timmermann
If the scores hold up (and it's early), the Rays could be in first place.
2008-05-13 17:45:26
269.   El Lay Dave
265 They need to go 55-69, .444 the rest of the way.
2008-05-13 17:45:34
270.   KG16
the ump's strike zone seems to be a little wide, no?
2008-05-13 17:46:19
271.   regfairfield
269 Believe me, I know. I'm also rather proud of myself for taking the under on the Mariners and the Padres right now.
2008-05-13 17:46:47
272.   Andrew Shimmin
263- Essentially your argument is: it would be good if Penny were better than he is. I agree with this, but I'm not sure it's a useful point.
2008-05-13 17:46:56
273.   KG16
268 - the baseball gods weep at the thought of Tampa Bay-Arizona in the World Series
2008-05-13 17:47:23
274.   Indiana Jon
Hardly anyone is Greg Maddux and hardly anyone is Nolan Ryan, either.

Much to my amazement, there seem to be more Nolan Ryan's than there are Greg Maddux's. I would have thought it was harder to be Nolan Ryan.

2008-05-13 17:48:41
275.   Indiana Jon
I bet hardly anyone is Clayton Kershaw.
2008-05-13 17:48:42
276.   Jacob L
273 Well, I'm sure the network gods weep, but Tampa in the World Series would be quite a story.
2008-05-13 17:48:54
277.   ToyCannon
273
Not the baseball God I pray to.
2008-05-13 17:49:09
278.   Bob Timmermann
Why would anyone weep over an Arizona-Tampa Bay World Series?

The quality of a World Series is not determined by TV ratings! It's determined by the actions on the field.

I like to rage in to the night about this topic.

2008-05-13 17:49:34
279.   FirstMohican
273 - The baseball gods would love it. The MLB would hate it.
2008-05-13 17:49:44
280.   KG16
272 - um, no, not exactly. My point (not argument) is that Penny can (and should) diversify his game. He can be a better pitcher by being a better power pitcher. I just think he could be an even better pitcher by being something of a fusion.
2008-05-13 17:49:55
281.   Jacob L
Bison.
2008-05-13 17:50:02
282.   MC Safety
Ribby for Bison!
2008-05-13 17:51:45
283.   FirstMohican
Turns out Kemp is pretty good.
2008-05-13 17:51:59
284.   ToyCannon
271
Everytime Tampa wins and the Padres/Mariners lose you probably feel good about your chances of winning and bad because you didn't bet more money.

That was how I felt about the Brewers last year. What looked like a given ended up coming down to the last day of the season and I won the bet when Gwynn Junior knocked the Padres out of the playoffs.

2008-05-13 17:52:12
285.   Andrew Shimmin
280- Should Juan Pierre diversify his game by adding power?
2008-05-13 17:52:23
286.   El Lay Dave
Jeff Kent went 0 for the homestand, then has an RBI singles in his first PA of the road trip.
2008-05-13 17:53:50
287.   Jacob L
Baseball is already so intense for me that I have to look away half the time. If I had money on the line, I'd be a basket case.
2008-05-13 17:54:02
288.   MC Safety
284 Looks like all that praying paid off.
2008-05-13 17:54:08
289.   ToyCannon
285
Andrew, quit being a Shimmin.
2008-05-13 17:55:45
290.   Andrew Shimmin
289- Of your mercy, please do not define what you meant by that.

Penny went a little Nolan Ryan there. Lucky Kendall's ducking abilities haven't dropped off too much.

2008-05-13 17:56:00
291.   Bob Timmermann
287
And Jacob is still suffering from Post-traumatic Rich Aurilia Base on Balls Syndrome.
2008-05-13 17:56:14
292.   ToyCannon
287
DVD Recorders have spoiled me. I only watch the good stuff now. It made the games when Tomko/Hendrickson pitch much easier to deal with but I know I'm cheating myself out of something. Probably pain.
2008-05-13 17:56:59
293.   MC Safety
Weak hit by Weeks.
2008-05-13 17:58:10
294.   Jacob L
291 Every time Aurilia walks, a librarian has to eat a peach.
2008-05-13 17:58:44
295.   Jon Weisman
261 - I care.

If I had bet the under on Seattle and San Diego, they'd be going to the Series.

2008-05-13 17:58:50
296.   Disabled List
My cousin is married to a man named Richard Dick.

I wouldn't dare to make that up.

2008-05-13 17:59:17
297.   Jacob L
You can't walk Cameron with Braun coming up!?!
2008-05-13 17:59:55
298.   ToyCannon
290
Nothing really but I always thought it sounded good no matter what the persons name was.
Bob, quit being a Timmermann
Eric, quit being an Enders
Jon, quit being a Weisman
Phil, quit being a Gurnee
I had a friend who used to say that to me all the time when I did something that irritated her and made her laugh at the same time.
2008-05-13 18:00:28
299.   Bluebleeder87
Penny can still bring it if he has too, you guys know that.
2008-05-13 18:01:53
300.   ToyCannon
295
You need to bet the over on the Dodgers, take one for the team if your that unlucky in the betting department.