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On the Chin
2008-05-17 09:03
by Jon Weisman

Part of the reason we keep seeing players like Gary Bennett and Luis Maza in the Dodger starting lineup and Russell Martin at third base has been Joe Torre's loss of faith in Chin-Lung Hu.

From Kevin Pearson of the Press Enterprise:

Torre said that infielder Chin-Lung Hu, who was hitting .200 and in a 2-for-17 slump heading into Friday's game, was clearly fighting himself mechanically and that it appeared the game was speeding up for the rookie. Torre said that Hu needed to be playing every day and that moving him back to the minors was something the club may be forced to look at in the coming weeks.

Hu might be heading to Las Vegas soon, but at least for today, he is getting a start in place of Jeff Kent.

Juan Pierre, LF
Andre Ethier, RF
Russell Martin, C
James Loney, 1B
Mark Sweeney, DH
Andruw Jones, CF
Blake DeWitt, 3B
Luis Maza, 2B
Chin-Lung Hu, SS

Dodgers at Angels, 12:55 p.m.

Comments (418)
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2008-05-17 12:45:05
1.   overkill94
If I were to use one word to describe today's line-up, it would be...punchless
2008-05-17 12:45:15
2.   regfairfield
So....

Hu needs to play every day. Hu gets opportunity to play every day. Hu gets benched for Luis Maza.

2008-05-17 12:51:21
3.   Bluebleeder87
Santana is due for a loss.
2008-05-17 12:55:23
4.   Andrew Shimmin
The kid read that well. But he wasn't funny, and he had a silly name.
2008-05-17 12:56:24
5.   Reddog
Starting with Sweeney, you then have A. Jones, DeWitt, Maza, Hu and Pierre.

That is some Murderer's Row.

2008-05-17 12:56:52
6.   Bluebleeder87
watching the #'s Jon posted on the last thread I'm really getting PO'ed at upper management's shenanigans, but I'm hoping things change, I really do.
2008-05-17 12:58:23
7.   LogikReader
Honestly, when is somebody on that staff going to have a "loss of faith" in Juan Pierre?
2008-05-17 12:58:47
8.   dsfan
Not doubting Joey P's point, but that's scary if the Dodgers traded Navarro because they didn't want to have two young catchers on the same team. Has the press revisited that trade with Ned?
2008-05-17 12:58:48
9.   MMSMikey
way to set the tone, juan.
2008-05-17 12:59:17
10.   Bluebleeder87
it's a HOT day & Park pitching! I hope Park keeps the ball away from the hitters.
2008-05-17 13:01:17
11.   dsfan
Whicker writes a good column. Today he gives Ned the open mike and Ned complains about Billingsley's pitch inefficiency and invokes Maddux as guy to emulate in that area. Not to pick on Ned, but if it's that important to him, why not keep Maddux for 2 x $10 million instead of giving all that money to Jason Schmidt. So much of Ned's wisdom comes after the fact.
2008-05-17 13:03:44
12.   Andrew Shimmin
The kid was funnier than Speier.
2008-05-17 13:04:07
13.   Greg Brock
Gotta keep Sweeney fresh. Wouldn't want him to pull a muscle getting doubled off a foul out.
2008-05-17 13:05:21
14.   Icaros
I can't believe it's 2008 and I'm watching Chan Ho Park start a game for the Dodgers.
2008-05-17 13:06:04
15.   Reddog
I want to be an optimist, but I have some dark thoughts regarding our chances in this one.
2008-05-17 13:07:28
16.   roncey10
It looks like a spring training lineup...

I have to agree that foul pop that Sweeney got doubled up on last year to end a game was one of the most agitating plays of all time...

2008-05-17 13:07:40
17.   Andrew Shimmin
11- Looks like that was printed on Thursday, the day Billingsley went seven.

http://tinyurl.com/4q9krz

2008-05-17 13:08:58
18.   Andrew Shimmin
Somebody get Maza some shades.
2008-05-17 13:09:09
19.   Bluebleeder87
I wonder who the broadcaster is doing the game with Eric Karros, he kind of reminds me of Eintein for some reason, did you guys see 'em?
2008-05-17 13:09:09
20.   Bob Timmermann
In 2006, we saw Jose Lima start games for the Dodgers.

And yet we survived.

We saw Brett Tomko and Mark Hendrickson start games last year.

2008-05-17 13:09:25
21.   LogikReader
EK breakin' out the "J-Lo" reference!
2008-05-17 13:09:30
22.   dsfan
Furcal's back injury has really hurt this team but maybe it also gave this front office a better feel for how to assign value to him going forward. Back issues, seemingly, tend to recur, particularly, you would think, if one is require to bend over and field dozens of groundballs every day -- something to think about before giving him guarantee for a gazillion dollars.

Three years ago I said Furcal would end up in CF in the last year of his contract. Obviously I was wrong, but I still believe that it could be a good place for him. Not that CF is easy on the body or that we know he could read a flyball or would be excited about moving off SS. But I think it will only get harder for him to keep his back healthy as he moves into his 30s at SS. Again, he is not a fundamentally great SS, far from it. He relies so much on extraordinary athleticism. That's harder on the body and can show up big time as age erodes some of that athleticism.

Andruw also was that way as a hitter -- definitely not a guy with great technique or a great approach, relied very heavily on great athleticism.

2008-05-17 13:09:41
23.   Bluebleeder87
nice encouraging inning from Park...
2008-05-17 13:09:48
24.   Bob Timmermann
19
Dick Stockton is compared to Max Planck more often than Einstein.
2008-05-17 13:09:50
25.   Andrew Shimmin
Very pretty double play.
2008-05-17 13:09:51
26.   Marty
Wow, Vlad barely got down the line. Is he banged up?
2008-05-17 13:09:56
27.   Reddog
16.

I was at that game. Kemp was on deck. It took awhile to sink in that the game was over - no one could believe what had happened.

2008-05-17 13:12:57
28.   waterboy100
20 I remember jose. he wasnt that bad was he? although to be honest, all i remember of him is he pitched a 5 hitter (i think) in the playoffs that year for us..
2008-05-17 13:14:39
29.   MC Safety
Where is The Bison?

This lineup is laughable.

2008-05-17 13:15:31
30.   oshea2002
Is there anything wrong with Kemp? Is this lineup a joke?
2008-05-17 13:17:40
31.   Ken Noe
I have the Red Sox on my local Fox station, but mlb.tv still blacks me out. Great.

Am I only the only person already thinking about 2009? No Kent or Nomar to placate with PT, no Sweeney or Bennett? And maybe, maybe, no Colletti?

2008-05-17 13:19:30
32.   Bluebleeder87
DUDE!! (DeWitt)
2008-05-17 13:19:51
33.   skybluestoday
Oh my!
2008-05-17 13:21:19
34.   Reddog
DeWitt! How long has it been since we've had a Rookie of the Year?
2008-05-17 13:21:22
35.   lab rat
Loved that he pulled that.

I really didn't think he had the stroke, strength or hands to do that back in April.

Stellar.

2008-05-17 13:21:58
36.   lab rat
36 -- he clearly had it. I just wasn't seeing it.
2008-05-17 13:21:59
37.   Marty
I guess his back feels good.
2008-05-17 13:22:04
38.   Ken Noe
And maybe DeWitt and La Roche in the lineup? ;-)
2008-05-17 13:22:05
39.   CanuckDodger
DeWitt, the best hitter on the team.
2008-05-17 13:22:44
40.   waterboy100
game days shows it as an indside the parker? really?
2008-05-17 13:23:06
41.   LogikReader
The Solution™ got some help from a Dodger Fan on that one... leaning over and attempting to catch a ball that otherwise would have hit the wall.

Nice way to come back into the lineup though, Solution!

2008-05-17 13:23:14
42.   LoneStar7
operation learn 2b has got to be put in place, we cant send this kid back. Woohoo!
2008-05-17 13:23:21
43.   Ken Noe
34 Hollandsworth in '96.
2008-05-17 13:23:23
44.   Bluebleeder87
Upper management (Ned) is self defeating him self.

I wanted to use THIS TEAM IS SELF DEFEATING, but we have a 2 run lead so...

2008-05-17 13:23:28
45.   waterboy100
i mean gamecast
2008-05-17 13:23:31
46.   ucladodger
Thats what i was talking about with Kemp when i said sitting on a pitch and pulling the ball. Thats how you hit with power.
2008-05-17 13:25:02
47.   Bluebleeder87
we need a DeWitt-LaRoche one 2 punch.
2008-05-17 13:25:38
48.   MMSMikey
sick of garret anderson.
2008-05-17 13:26:35
49.   Bob Hendley
34 - We all know what those are worth. I am afraid that his very success is used as an excuse not to do something to improve the team. Stick the Gumption Kid at 2nd and get LaRoche up here, send Hu down when Rafi gets back and hold your nose every time Torre thinks of playing Maza at SS.
2008-05-17 13:26:51
50.   68elcamino427
#33, first swing in five days.
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2008-05-17 13:27:24
51.   Bob Timmermann
I like Garret Anderson, but that's a minority opinion.
2008-05-17 13:30:15
52.   Andrew Shimmin
Maza is now wearing sunglasses.
2008-05-17 13:30:23
53.   Ken Noe
49 Plus DFA Sweeney when Nomar gets back. DFA Bennett and bring up May. Trade Pierre while he's actually hitting and has some value. Play Kemp and Ethier every day. Get Kershaw and McDonald up here.
2008-05-17 13:30:28
54.   the2pin
This is such a joke. Past 130 reg.-season games, Kemp's line: .338, 13 HR, 19 SB
2008-05-17 13:30:55
55.   trainwreck
95?!!
2008-05-17 13:32:47
56.   68elcamino427
53
Yes on all points.
2008-05-17 13:32:56
57.   regfairfield
Bringing up May now and having him sit on the bench is a very bad idea, he's still far from ready. If Bennett does get DFAed, his replacement will almost certainly be Ardoin.
2008-05-17 13:33:09
58.   Louis in SF
Given the current Dodger state of affairs, Blake DeWitt AB's are ones I look most forward to...I can't say it any other way, but Dodger line-up based on what Torre claims he wants to do and what he puts out on the field makes little sense.

1.) Needs power and wants to give Kent a rest. Makes logical sense so why is JP there and not Kemp, if it is a matter that Kemp has had a few bad days and you want to rest him against a tough pitcher wait till tomorrow.

2.) If that is still so important that you have to sit both Kent and Kemp, something on this club I think should never happen, than how about a start for Young at 2nd base-you give a player just like Sweney some extra AB's and you can still play Hu at short or Mazza, if you want to give Hu more chances, which actually makes some sense fine, but on a team which has little power on its best days and scores runs only through multiple hits, making these flawed line-up decisions hurts everyone, and doesn't even accomplish your stated goals.

2008-05-17 13:35:07
59.   LoneStar7
oh man I almost totally forgot about Chan Ho's famous scissor kick until that little flashback, thats awesome..
2008-05-17 13:35:45
60.   68elcamino427
57
May you could do now. If Bennett refuses assignment, then May goes back down and whoever can be added?
2008-05-17 13:36:47
61.   Bluebleeder87
traditionally when it's nice & hot it works wonders for the arm, I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not surprised Park is throwing 95mph heaters.
2008-05-17 13:37:32
62.   regfairfield
60 You put Ardoin on the 40 man.
2008-05-17 13:37:50
63.   Ken Noe
58 Hopefully, when Furcal gets back, Torre's need for "speed" at the top will be satiated and we'll see a reasonable outfield again. Hopefully.

57 Gee what a choice, the Alley-ooper or the Ground to Third Baseman Missile.

Hmmm, Hu got on base.

2008-05-17 13:38:09
64.   LoneStar7
why isnt juan bunting?
2008-05-17 13:38:24
65.   68elcamino427
Did anyone else hear Stockton say that Penny will miss his next start due to stiffness in his right arm?
2008-05-17 13:39:02
66.   LoneStar7
well thats a blessing, I mean i obviously hope hes ok and never want to see a guy get hit, but i was feeling that was a dp waiting to happen..
2008-05-17 13:40:35
67.   Alice S
Who the heck do we have playing shortstop?
Chin-Ling Hu? Chin-Lung Hyu?
2008-05-17 13:41:33
68.   Bluebleeder87
I don't know guys, but I'm lovin' this 2-0 lead, I'm sick of the Halos winning all the time...
2008-05-17 13:41:50
69.   regfairfield
It's funny because he's foreign.
2008-05-17 13:42:05
70.   LoneStar7
yipee, great AB andre
2008-05-17 13:42:27
71.   Bob Hendley
53 - Yep, thats what you gotta do if you want to improve this team. Anything else if just monkeying around.
2008-05-17 13:44:47
72.   LoneStar7
thats huge, big time speed russ..this is a great inning, very fortunate
2008-05-17 13:44:47
73.   skybluestoday
Cool! Infield hit for the Golden God with an RBI! Awesome!
2008-05-17 13:45:09
74.   68elcamino427
Martin with the high chopper!
2008-05-17 13:45:32
75.   Bluebleeder87
I don't know about you guys but those swings are indicative OF A TIRED BALL PLAYER.

or maybe he's just swinging at bad balls?

2008-05-17 13:48:17
76.   Bluebleeder87
I would have Inked Kemp instead of Sweeney as the DH.
2008-05-17 13:48:43
77.   regfairfield
Am I the only one who really likes Sweeney's glasses?
2008-05-17 13:49:12
78.   LoneStar7
75 On Russell's part?
2008-05-17 13:49:59
79.   Reddog
I wish DeWitt were batting 5th and not Sweeney.
2008-05-17 13:50:52
80.   Bluebleeder87
78

Yes.

2008-05-17 13:51:18
81.   oshea2002
I like this strategy by Joe, throw out the worst lineup we can to lull Ervin into a false sense of security - then quickly strike!
2008-05-17 13:51:59
82.   68elcamino427
79
How about Young or Kemp?
2008-05-17 13:52:57
83.   gpellamjr
81 Oh man. And I thought Joe just wasn't trying to win! Very smart, Joe. Very smart.
2008-05-17 13:52:57
84.   MMSMikey
how does jones not even make contact right there.
2008-05-17 13:53:15
85.   LoneStar7
oh man thats terrible both this pitches were very very hittable especially that 3-1 pitch man
2008-05-17 13:53:25
86.   Bluebleeder87
I'm just speculating but maybe he really is just swinging at bad pitches which in turn makes him look like he's tired or something, plus somebody else mentioned that Russell has played ALL games the Dodgers have played so maybe it's a subconscious type thing on my part.
2008-05-17 13:53:28
87.   Reddog
Andruw Jones is a washed-up waste of a hitter. Colletti really knows how to pick 'em.
2008-05-17 13:53:38
88.   Ken Noe
"And the Andruw Jones nightmare continues."
2008-05-17 13:53:47
89.   68elcamino427
Jones misses on 2-0 and 3-1 fastballs , then strikes out and didn't touch the ball. I've seen enough.
2008-05-17 13:55:26
90.   MMSMikey
hes had a ton of awful at bats this year but that one has to take the cake.
2008-05-17 13:56:26
91.   oshea2002
They almost need to only play him against soft tossers. Good fastballs are virtually impossible for him to hit at this point.
2008-05-17 13:57:22
92.   oshea2002
Who is starting tomorrow? Kuo?
2008-05-17 13:57:25
93.   Bluebleeder87
I still believe in Andruw Jones! (you can do it Andruw!!)
2008-05-17 13:58:28
94.   bluekang
Can we start a write-in campaign for Blake DeWitt on the all-star ballot?
2008-05-17 13:59:07
95.   Bluebleeder87
92

I don't know but I hope so.

2008-05-17 13:59:07
96.   Samuel
92

Lowe

2008-05-17 13:59:47
97.   Bob Hendley
93 - OK, but do you also believe that the way to get him untracked/on track is to wheel him out there day after day?
2008-05-17 14:00:40
98.   Bluebleeder87
Maza looks like he has a little noodle arm, even worse then Pierre.
2008-05-17 14:01:18
99.   Louis in SF
Karros comments about Jones are telling. In Karros eyes Jones improvements are minimal because he is missing pitches he should and used to hit in hitters counts. I actually think the walks are encouraging, but him continuing to miss pitches badly is not good. Even looking at the Kent slump as a comparison, at least Kent hits the ball hard occasionally, he is still projected for 17 HR and 87 RBI's. At his age and on this team I would take that in a heart beat.
2008-05-17 14:01:44
100.   oshea2002
Lowe makes sense, he always claims he's better on short rest.
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2008-05-17 14:03:17
101.   Bluebleeder87
Ethier (LF)
A.Jones (CF)
Kemp (RF)

That's my outfield Dodger all-stars.

2008-05-17 14:05:14
102.   Bob Hendley
100 - Also gives him a chance to show his stuff against one of those laid back Southern California teams.
2008-05-17 14:05:57
103.   MyTummyHurts
is Mariano Duncan our 1st base coach?
2008-05-17 14:06:00
104.   Icaros
If Torre really is big on working counts, then I'm not surprised he wants to send Hu down.
2008-05-17 14:06:06
105.   68elcamino427
101
Your loyalty to Jones is very nice, but wouldn't it be fun to give Young 100 at bats?
2008-05-17 14:06:19
106.   Marty
Penny is missing tomorrow's start?
2008-05-17 14:06:37
107.   Ken Noe
We're a dozen games away from beginning the second third of the season, the traditional time for re-evaluating and shuffling players. We're also 18-20 games away from Jones' 200th AB, that magic point when Bowa said they'd know about Jones. That's the first weekend in June, against the Cubs in DS, FWIW.
2008-05-17 14:08:22
108.   Bluebleeder87
105

I wouldn't be appose to that.

2008-05-17 14:08:45
109.   68elcamino427
Maza, having the time of his life!
2008-05-17 14:09:00
110.   Reddog
I say we package Pierre, LaRoche and either Penny or Lowe for Matt Holliday. Then we have a nice everyday outfield of Kemp, Ethier and Holliday.
2008-05-17 14:10:33
111.   Icaros
110

How would you feel about receiving that package if you were a Rockies fan?

2008-05-17 14:10:52
112.   regfairfield
110 I don't think the Rockies would agree to that.
2008-05-17 14:11:57
113.   JoeyP
Maybe Park really is the most valuable pitcher on the Dodgers...

And Dewitt is taking the Hanley Ramirez path to the majors.

Do nothing in the minors, then all the sudden put it all together in the majors.

2008-05-17 14:12:39
114.   Bob Hendley
107 - It would be good for them to get Pew Wee out there a bit more during that period, before they start making moves that they later regret.
2008-05-17 14:12:47
115.   LoneStar7
11 I would feel good thats way too much to give away in my opinion
2008-05-17 14:13:22
116.   Bluebleeder87
outside corner!
2008-05-17 14:13:41
117.   Bluebleeder87
Park has him thinking inside, go outside
2008-05-17 14:14:11
118.   Bluebleeder87
fastball up, come on Park...
2008-05-17 14:14:19
119.   Icaros
115

You'd want Pierre and Lowe?

2008-05-17 14:14:25
120.   regfairfield
115 What would you give up for Holliday?
2008-05-17 14:14:42
121.   Bluebleeder87
he did it! I'm thinking like Russell is, woo hoo!!
2008-05-17 14:15:31
122.   Ken Noe
110 Moving a Pierre-Lowe package would require a reckless trading partner desperate to compete. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the New York Yankees.
2008-05-17 14:16:10
123.   MMSMikey
WHY
2008-05-17 14:16:22
124.   ucladodger
Again, why Loney is not an elite fielding first baseman yet. Lapse of concentration on fairly east plays.
2008-05-17 14:16:32
125.   Reddog
We never seem to be at our best against the Angels.
2008-05-17 14:16:37
126.   Bluebleeder87
Bennett has infiltrated his bad play on the Rooks.
2008-05-17 14:16:44
127.   68elcamino427
#7, say it ain't so.
2008-05-17 14:17:13
128.   JoeyP
Loney is not a good 1st basemen.
2008-05-17 14:17:14
129.   LoneStar7
Nooo, Lonestar rushed that throw dang it
2008-05-17 14:17:34
130.   LoneStar7
128 ..........
2008-05-17 14:18:19
131.   dodgerkramer1
Loney is a bad fielder, period.

He might be good someday, but right now he's a bad fielder.

2008-05-17 14:18:32
132.   MMSMikey
lets just keep giving them runs.
2008-05-17 14:19:10
133.   oshea2002
Loney just almost got Hu killed there.
2008-05-17 14:19:26
134.   ucladodger
People are easily swayed by the great plays he makes seem easy. But he makes so many mistakes compared to any above average 1B man
2008-05-17 14:20:07
135.   dodgerkramer1
134: Amen
2008-05-17 14:20:14
136.   Bluebleeder87
in all fairness to Loney, I've seen him practice that play FLAWLESSLY during practice.
2008-05-17 14:20:16
137.   LoneStar7
131 Loney makes mistakes, and loses his concentration, but I think hes very far from a bad fielder..
2008-05-17 14:21:04
138.   Chiron Brown
Ladies and gentlemen, your Los Angeles Odgers.
2008-05-17 14:21:45
139.   dodgerkramer1
and park is a 3-inning pitcher.
2008-05-17 14:22:15
140.   68elcamino427