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Update: Some blog posts:
James Poniewozik at Time
Alan Sepinwall at the New Jersey Star-Ledger
Jeff Jensen at EW.com
Maureen Ryan at the Chicago Tribune
Cynthia Littleton at Variety
I'm so amped I can hardly take this much action...at least Loney played well today, and kent and solution knocked one..
I can't believe we're back in the finals...sayid, as always, is the man
I like the videos.
How many times have I said that?
I kid, I kid.
Run-on sentences ftw.
Bye, Jin :-(
Linkmeister can back me up on this.
Film at eleven.
This is frustrating being an hour ahead because I'm not sure what you guys have seen yet. But the Penny meeting is fantastic.
Reading around the tubes, I guess I'm not the only person that doesn't care what else happens. Penny and Desmond, man.
And as much as I love Jin/Sun, having him survive after the graveyard scene and the boat blowing up would be...Kind of cheap.
So what's the story, 44 ?
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Seriously, it's pretty funny that I'm introducing Utilitarianism tomorrow.
That said, I suspect in the end the show will cheap out and have both Jin and Michael survive, although I also suspect they may not turn up alive until the last season, much like Michael was AWOL for all of last season.
I had to laugh about how there were a bunch of redshirts on the boat that have been there since day one with the rest of the crew, but only Jin rated any attempts to be saved or any grief. How about the 9-10 other survivors who were on the freighter? To us they're no-name redshirts, but to the Oceanic 6 they should have mattered a little.
I'm slightly disappointed in how the Oceanic 6 came to be in that I was hoping it would be a little more of a conscious choice whether to stay or to make a devil's deal by leaving but also lying. Instead the Oceanic 6 ended up coming about largely by circumstance - the adults all wanted to leave, yes, but they didn't know they'd have to lie until after the island was eliminated for them as a choice.
Wonder who really is supposed to be raising Aaron, now that Claire's visit to Kate has muddied the issue? Is it too much to ask that Claire and her dad coordinate on their hauntings?
Overall, great finale.
"So?"
"You're move, Mr. Eko"
"All of you...Including HIM."
That said, Charlotte is unpopular because she's been an ice queen all season and not in a fun or sexy way. I don't mind such a characterization, personally, but it does not go over well with most people.
(I never understood the vitriol towards Nikki and Paolo, either. Yeah, we never saw them before - but we always knew there were other survivors besides the main cast and supporting characters. Before the show ever premiered, I assumed that as some main characters were killed off previously unknown other survivors would step forward into our view much as Nikki and Paolo did. But that concept was absolutely loathed by apparently 99.9% of the fans.)
Nikki and Paolo episode was good!
And I believe Hurley checkmated Mr. Eko.
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My guess is that the failed Nikki/Paolo experiment contributed to the show's decision to kill off every remaining unnamed survivor by the end of this season, as they saw there was no way to be able to bring any of the unnamed survivors into the show's fabric without fans complaining about not having seen them before. The funny thing is that, for all of the talk about how the Oceanic 6 have to lie to protect those who remained, all that's left from the flight is really Locke (who's now dead, apparently) and Sawyer. Everyone else on the island is either an Other (ok, so Juliet's in a grey area) or from the freighter crew - which really limited the number of people Jeremy Bentham could turn out to be.
Jin lives! I'll keep believing til they recover his body.
I am reminded of the time I went on a trip to Quebec and I went to the historic convent where the skull of General Montcalm is displayed.
When I walked in, I paid the admission and asked for the full information packet. But the clerk said, "Don't you just want to see the skull?"
"No, I want to see the whole place!"
"It's OK. Lots of people just want to see the skull."
"OK, where's the skull?"
"It's over behind me!"
Season 3 was terrific, and the flash forward in that season finale was like a "wow" type of moment.
This particular finale did answer some questions, and open a few more...but nothing mind blowing.
Did anyone else think Ben was travelling to the middle of the Earth in order to move the tectonic plates, and thereby move the island? That just seemed so out of place, even for Lost.
I did like the new characters on season 4 though.
Last season, I was all bummed that it'd be 8 months till the new episode. This time, I'm not anticipating the new season near as much.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tvguide/365208_tvgif30.html
- Jin (and Michael) may not actually be dead. Sun thinks Jin is dead because she saw the frieghter blow up and sink, but he may have jumped overboard and swam for it. That said, it will be hard to explain how Jin could get back to the island when he was farther away from it than the chopper (heading back to the island) when the island moved.
- Daniel (and the other redshirts with him) may not be dead. They seemed to have been closer to the island than the helicopter, and so it may be that the boat got moved with the island, so we may see more of Daniel/Rebecca next season.
- Locke may come back to life when brought back to the island. Just a hunch.
- Sun doesn't wish to help Widmore: he wishes to kill him or otherwise harm him. Whatever play she is making by confronting him in London is unclear.
- It will be too freakin' long until next season!
Not as much of a mind bender as last season's finale, but they sure are advancing the story along. I like how they tell you instantly that the man in the coffin is "Jeremy Bentham", 'solving' a mystery, and then end the episode revealing Bentham to be Locke. How many people guessed last year that it was Locke in the coffin? I may have...
All in all, I don't think I can last 'til the next new episodes! May have to go back and rewatch this season just to catch anything I missed. I really wish there was just one more season, though. The thought of two more really seems stretching it, but then I thought that before and was engaged all this season.
>>What does it mean that Michaelwho never knew Christiansees Christian in his last moments? Is "Christian" actually Christian at all? Is he a manifestation of the Island? (Which, by the way: If the Island lets people die as a way of telling them it's "done" with themMichael, Lockethen the Island is kind of a jerk.) Or is he Smokey? Does Smokey have that kind of range?<<
Jeremy Bentham created the Panoptic Prison, a cylindrical self regulating prison where the guards and prisoners can see each other and food is delivered automatically, or something like that. The show is now functioning on a heavily allegorical level. The most profound image to me was Ben turning the wheel in a Nietzche time moment.
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