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Overnight Non-Lost Open Chat
2008-05-29 22:39
by Jon Weisman

The Lost thread is below - everything else can go here.

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2008-05-29 22:41:36
1.   silverwidow
Greg Miller has 9 consecutive scoreless innings with 10 Ks. Good for him!
2008-05-29 23:04:59
2.   LAT
I'm sure this was discussed during the game chat but why is Sweeney still on this team? Never mind why is Torre actually using him.

I sure didn't expect Penny to be the weak link of the rotation this year. I have to assume he is hurt and just won't admit it.

2008-05-29 23:07:50
3.   LAT
BTW, if you need proof of just how strange baseball is what are the odds the Giants would sweep the D'Backs and Zito still would not win a game.
2008-05-29 23:13:29
4.   LoneStar7
Well it was a tale of two "Pennys" tonight..one struggled again to pitch up to his potential, but the other rescued the oceanic six, Frank, and Desmond, brothah.
2008-05-29 23:34:20
5.   silverwidow
Sweeney on why he gave Kershaw #22:

"He'll be in uniform a lot longer than I will."

2008-05-29 23:47:48
6.   Reddog
Sweeney is this season's Roberto Hernandez.
2008-05-29 23:57:13
7.   KG16
So, what do we think of Danny Espinosa of Long Beach State? Worth taking a flyer on? Back up place for Hu?
2008-05-30 00:01:42
8.   Eric Enders
I'm not sure why everyone seems to think Penny is hurt when the man is still throwing 95-96 mph. It looks to me like his problem is his command. He's leaving too many fastballs up in the zone. He also can't control his breaking ball, which means he doesn't throw it very often, which means hitters sit on the fastball, and even the hitters who don't have enough bat speed to catch up to the heater are slapping line drive singles to the opposite field.
2008-05-30 00:04:08
9.   Eric Enders
By the way, what do you guys think of Jemile Weeks in the draft? I guess he'd be a significant overdraft at 15, right? But he seems like the type of player we need in the system.

Of course, White has something of a history of moderate overdrafts, I guess, what with Mattingly and Adkins and Loney and arguably Withrow.

2008-05-30 00:12:10
10.   Eric Enders
Of course, Weeks is a college position player, and White has never drafted one of those before the third round.
2008-05-30 00:22:01
11.   Bob Timmermann
So Clayton Kershaw's idol was Will Clark?

I'm feeling conflicted. But I guess if Vin's childhood hero was Mel Ott, I can live with it.

2008-05-30 00:27:33
12.   Eric Enders
For what it's worth, Kershaw's idol would have to be Will Clark the Texas Ranger and not Will Clark the hated Giant. Kershaw was six years old when Clark left the Giants to play in the Dallas area.

And yes, that makes me feel old, too.

2008-05-30 02:00:32
13.   Benjamin Miracord
Longest elapsed times between Los Angeles Dodger no-hitters:

1965-1970.......1,775 days
1970-1980.......3,630 days
1980-1990.......3,654 days
1996-current....4,273 days

I foresee the present drought coming to an end, and soon. I'm looking at you, Jon Meloan.

2008-05-30 02:17:56
14.   Eric Enders
Is it a jinx if I predict that the streak will end at 4,273?
2008-05-30 02:27:47
15.   CanuckDodger
9 -- Do you draft a second base prospect just because your farm lacks second base prospects? I don't think so. With rare exceptions MLB second basemen start out as something else. In the Dodgers case, I think DeWitt could be a better second baseman than Weeks, who isn't exactly well-thought-of for his defense. And then there is the opportunity cost: to pop Weeks at #15, who do you pass up? Somebody I would rather have than Weeks, I imagine.
2008-05-30 04:52:57
16.   D4P
Good: The Dodgers are only 3.5 games behind the DBacks

Bad: The Giants are only 3.5 games behind the Dodgers

2008-05-30 06:29:12
17.   MollyKnight
I have many, many things to add to this discussion. I just need to have my coffee first.
2008-05-30 06:59:29
18.   CodyS
Not only does Kershaw like George Bush, his hero is Will Clark. He may not really be an LA kind of guy. From the limited things I've read, he does not seem to have the personality (disorders) of Clark at least.
2008-05-30 07:13:40
19.   D4P
He may not really be an LA kind of guy

See also: Kent, Jeff.

2008-05-30 07:24:21
20.   Disabled List
13 , 14 - You guys totally jinxed it. And I'm going to the game tonight too. Thanks alot.

Has there ever been back-to-back seasons where rookie pitchers named Clay threw no-hitters in their 2nd career appearance? I'm guessing not.

2008-05-30 07:28:08
21.   bhsportsguy
Dodgers are fortunate that there are only two home games that could be affected by Laker game telecasts.

The NBA Finals start next Thursday at 6:00 p.m., the Dodgers host the Cubs on Saito Bobblehead Night, so that game is probably near sold out anyway.

Then, on Sunday, the Dodgers play in their second consecutive ESPN game of the week which will get a head start on Game 2 of Finals.

During the rest of the Finals, the Dodgers are on the road.

2008-05-30 07:35:22
22.   Axim
Question for anyone, after LaRoche gets the call, who is the next prospect(s) that you see coming up to the majors?
2008-05-30 07:41:47
23.   silverwidow
22 If Furcal's injury persists, Ivan De Jesus.

Pitchers would be Meloan, McDonald and Greg Miller.

2008-05-30 07:43:26
24.   Ken Noe
22 I'm really starting to wonder if something is wrong with Penny. If so, I'd look for a pitcher, Brazoban or Stults probably but conceivably Meloan or Miller, with Kuo taking over as a starter.
2008-05-30 07:52:49
25.   Gen3Blue
22 I'm kind of hoping McDonald, though strangley we seem to have enough starters now.
2008-05-30 07:56:58
26.   bhsportsguy
23 I don't think it would be DeJesus, he just turned 21 and he doesn't have to be protected on the 40-man roster until after the 2009 season.

24 Unless Penny is injured, he won't be taken out of the rotation.

2008-05-30 08:00:13
27.   Ken Noe
26 Oh I agree about Penny, but as I said, I'm starting to worry that something is wrong.
2008-05-30 08:02:01
28.   regfairfield
15 To slightly add to that, something like only 1 or 2 percent of second basemen drafted go on to become major league players. If he's not athletic enough to play short in college, he probably won't be able to handle the middle infield in the bigs, forcing him to a corner where expectations are much higher.
2008-05-30 08:13:30
29.   cargill06
you guys need to set the line for us

cliff lee pitches tonight against KC
kershaw vs the mets

we want to bet who has a higher game score tonight, what should the line be?

2008-05-30 08:19:48
30.   JoeyP
Kershaw---The Mets cant hit lefties.
2008-05-30 08:21:06
31.   cargill06
30 ya, i'm going to take kershaw, but i weant to know if i should be spotted some game score points or if i should be spotting him some points.

and i always hear the mets haven't been able to hit lefties, what has their splits actually been since '06?

2008-05-30 08:21:12
32.   Jon Weisman
NPUT
2008-05-30 08:23:19
33.   Bluebleeder87
Clark had a cool swing I can see why Kershaw liked him.

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