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June 2 Game Chat
2008-06-02 18:00
by Jon Weisman
Comments (738)
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2008-06-02 18:28:34
1.   Bob Timmermann
Stitch and pitch night!
2008-06-02 18:30:21
2.   scareduck
I thought that was "stitch and bitch" night.

It's all about our female (bad) dog, you know.

2008-06-02 18:32:16
3.   underdog
Yeah, hopefully this won't turn into that (stitch and bitch/moan night). Cute idea though. My g/f basically turns any (rare) appearance at a baseball game into (cross)stitch night.
2008-06-02 18:34:47
4.   Bob Timmermann
The Twins use two announcers for their games and then have two former players sitting around in the Metrodome offering opinions also.

Old friend Ron Coomer is one of them.

2008-06-02 18:40:27
5.   CanuckDodger
3 -- Knitting? How many women knit nowadays. I mean, I know some women who knit, but how common is it? When a friend of mine told me not long ago that women don't have hobbies, I mentioned knitting as a hobby many women have. Then he said that that he was talking about women under 70.
2008-06-02 18:42:40
6.   Andrew Shimmin
5- It may be coming back. I have a couple of cousins who knit.
2008-06-02 18:43:03
7.   Bob Timmermann
Knitting is becoming quite popular again. The library has a monthly knitting circle during a lunchtime hour and it draws a crowd of about 20-30 people each time.

The DIY lifestyle is quite popular with women in their 20s and 30s. And women older than enjoy it too.

2008-06-02 18:44:03
8.   Bob Timmermann
The library also had a program where a knitting guru of sorts who goes by the name "Yarn Harlot" visited and she drew a huge crowd. Something like 500 people, who had to line up in shifts to get her book signed.
2008-06-02 18:44:14
9.   bhsportsguy
My sister and my nieces knit.

Now macrame, there's a lost art.

2008-06-02 18:44:58
10.   Bluebleeder87
I can already tell the gas tank for the Prius will last all week (I'm working out of a fontana office) on my regular car I'd fill'er up again by Thurs, the Prius is producing like a champ I tell you!
2008-06-02 18:47:26
11.   bhsportsguy
To add fuel to the fire, put Pittsburgh on the get it list.

2008-06-02 18:48:18
12.   CanuckDodger
What do people say about the "Women don't have hobbies" idea in general? Not talking about just knitting. I don't believe it. Just because women don't follow sports like guys do doesn't mean they don't have hobbies.
2008-06-02 18:48:51
13.   Bob Timmermann
I guess another way of looking at the popularity of knitting is: if it weren't very popular, the Dodgers wouldn't be having a night for it (and it's at many other stadiums in the country as well).

Sports teams don't advertise nights for very unpopular activities.

"Hey, let's have a lanyard-making night!"

2008-06-02 18:49:20
14.   Bluebleeder87
2 of my baseball buddies told me THEY DO THE COOKING (married men) in there house, I'm not kidding when I say my jaw dropped.
2008-06-02 18:50:39
15.   trainwreck
My mom knits.

Then again, she is almost 60.

2008-06-02 18:51:00
16.   Bob Timmermann
Women have hobbies. Men have hobbies. I doubt there's much of a difference in the percentage of either gender who have hobbies.

But I consider "watching TV" a hobby.

2008-06-02 18:53:32
17.   Linkmeister
14 Prepare to pick your jaw up again. I've been the principal cook in this house since about 1993, and the sole cook since 2000 when I became a full-time caregiver.
2008-06-02 18:54:53
18.   Marty
My mother taught me to knit when I was 8, but I haven't touched a knitting needle since I realized the down-side when I was 9. I'd use them for chop sticks now.
2008-06-02 18:55:07
19.   CanuckDodger
16 -- Watching TV is a hobby if you are really hard core about it, like I am. If you just watch TV because you don't think you have anything better to do, or you are bored, then I don't really consider that a hobby.
2008-06-02 18:56:04
20.   Bluebleeder87
When I was in my early 20's I use to do the tune-ups on my car, I wanna get back into that, is that a hobby?
2008-06-02 18:56:43
21.   regfairfield
11 I'll believe it when he does something.
2008-06-02 18:57:03
22.   bhsportsguy
20 The only thing, you may have to buy a car that is at least 20-25 years old to give it a tune up.
2008-06-02 18:57:42
23.   Indiana Jon
14 I cook most of the time. I love to cook, especially during the summer. However, if you also told me that these guys cleaned up their own mess after they cooked then my jaw might hit the floor.
2008-06-02 18:57:52
24.   bhsportsguy
21 Thursday, after the Rays take their last No. 1 pick in a while, we'll find out.
2008-06-02 18:58:29
25.   bhsportsguy
23 I clean when I cook. Its the only time I clean but I can't cook without cleaning, it becomes to messy.
2008-06-02 18:59:07
26.   Indiana Jon
16 Aren't "watching TV" and "sports" the same hobby?
2008-06-02 18:59:16
27.   Bob Hendley
I miss Pee Wee already. With Furcal out, he'll never get a start over JP, just the occasional tough lefthander with Andre sitting. Boo hoo.
2008-06-02 19:00:27
28.   Indiana Jon
25 I don't just leave the mess. I have someone who follows me around and does it! She thinks I'm not capable and I don't tell her any different.
2008-06-02 19:00:49
29.   Bob Timmermann
Not if you are a person who prides himself on watching every episode of "The Rockford Files."

At least twice.

But probably three times.

2008-06-02 19:01:21
30.   sporky
I can't knit to save my life, but I can crochet.
2008-06-02 19:01:28
31.   Marty
I clean up the next morning when I cook, which is most every night if I'm home.
2008-06-02 19:01:31
32.   Bob Hendley
23 - When I met my wife-to-be we both cooked, so we took turns. When she cooked, I washed the dishes and when I cooked, I washed the dishes. I soon tired of cooking.
2008-06-02 19:02:25
33.   bhsportsguy
30 I am sure many here have no idea of the difference.
2008-06-02 19:02:40
34.   CanuckDodger
26 -- No, they just tend to over-lap, for most people. I hardly ever get to watch the Dodgers on TV. I have seen five Dodger games this year.
2008-06-02 19:02:57
35.   Indiana Jon
29 I'm not sure I get that channel. I think my TV only has the 700's and 207.
2008-06-02 19:03:58
36.   Bob Timmermann
Crocheting uses a hooked needle. Knitting needles are more like chopsticks.
2008-06-02 19:04:18
37.   Indiana Jon
33 Thankfully it's not just me. I was feeling stupid until I got to 33 .
2008-06-02 19:05:51
38.   Indiana Jon
36 That doesn't make since to give it another name. If I change the kind of pole I fish with, it's still fishing.
2008-06-02 19:06:49
39.   Andrew Shimmin
22- That's just good advice in general. Only squares drive modern plastic cars.
2008-06-02 19:06:51
40.   Sagehen
After spending the weekend at a dog agility trial, I can assure you -- women have hobbies -- some of which are even sports-related.
2008-06-02 19:06:57
41.   Bluebleeder87

I don't know how to cook to save my life but I'm thinking that would be my move also.

2008-06-02 19:07:40
42.   sporky
38 Don't hate!
2008-06-02 19:08:24
43.   Bob Hendley
38 - No one taught Bob how to fish, so I think the analogy is pretty much lost on him. Have you got something that deal with shopping for fish?
2008-06-02 19:08:36
44.   Bob Timmermann
In crocheting you just work with one loop of yarn at a time. You pull the yarn through that loop and you make a pattern.

In knitting, you have two needles and you bring the yarn through multiples loops and that makes a stitch.

People knit sweaters, caps, and scarves. People crochet afghans or doilies.

2008-06-02 19:10:07
45.   Bob Timmermann
To use a fishing analogy, people who are fly fisherman think that what they do is quite different from the guy who bates a hook and sits in a boat waiting for a fish to come by or a guy with a net out trolling.
2008-06-02 19:10:14
46.   Bluebleeder87
It's all tide up in Milwaukee 3-3 in the 7th.
2008-06-02 19:10:19
47.   thinkblue88
Brewers tie the game with Arizona.

Brewers still batting in botttom of the 7th. 2nd&3rd no out.
Weeks at bat

2008-06-02 19:10:28
48.   sporky
44 I kowtow in your general direction.
2008-06-02 19:11:13
49.   Marty
I think a guy with a net is trawling.
2008-06-02 19:11:16
50.   thinkblue88
46. beat me to it!
weeks strikes out.
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2008-06-02 19:12:22
51.   Bob Timmermann
I had a feeling I overreached on my fishing analogy.

All I know about fishing is reading "A River Runs Through It."

2008-06-02 19:12:32
52.   NorCal-Dodger
3-3 Brew Crew just tied it up! Very exciting game 5 of the Stanley Cup.

Sorry for cutting the conversation string, please don't needle me too much.

2008-06-02 19:12:40
53.   Andrew Shimmin
49- And the guy with the hook probably baits it.
2008-06-02 19:12:41
54.   bhsportsguy
Jon has written 23 words in his posts this past weekend.

Bob wrote over 50 describing the difference between knitting and crocheting.

2008-06-02 19:14:38
55.   Marty
I'm a proud bait-dunker. I have no time for fly fisherman and their hoity-toity attitudes.
2008-06-02 19:14:42
56.   Gen3Blue
Ahhh-I have Vin tonight.
And I've been waiting to see Stewart, but isn't he a third base prospect? We good use some good luck soon for sure. I see the Rocks are weakened by injuries just like us.
But is having Jones, Nomar, and possibly Kent with injuries really weakening us. Who knows
2008-06-02 19:14:45
57.   Bob Timmermann
You've never fished with a bated hook? You know one that refuses to go into the water and just sort of stops before it hits it?
2008-06-02 19:16:38
58.   Gen3Blue
Ohh--Derek--please concentrate.
2008-06-02 19:16:51
59.   Bob Timmermann
I gave my mom "A River Runs Through It" when she was undergoing chemotherapy. I thought she would find it relaxing. After she read about 20 pages and hated it she gave it back to me and told me that she gave it away so she wouldn't die of boredom instead of cancer.
2008-06-02 19:17:35
60.   Marty
Sounds like your mom was not haunted by water.
2008-06-02 19:17:36
61.   Andrew Shimmin
The Rockies are fishing in a stocked pond.
2008-06-02 19:17:42
62.   DodgerSinceBirth
Oh my, did anyone hear the "Sutton-Gasm", man do I hate those D-Back commentators.
2008-06-02 19:17:59
63.   Eric Stephen
Put me in the like to cook, but only when it's clean department. I try to do the dishes & cleaning the same night just to get the chores out of the way. Waiting to clean can lead to the viscous cycle of not wanting to cook the next night, and so on.
2008-06-02 19:18:57
64.   Bob Hendley
62 - I gots Vin tonight. Praise the Lord!
2008-06-02 19:19:38
65.   Eric Stephen
She sounds like someone who had a great sense of humor. That's awesome.
2008-06-02 19:19:50
66.   Bob Timmermann
My mom liked her novels to be Michenerian in length and detail.
2008-06-02 19:21:25
67.   DodgerSinceBirth
So do I, but when I logged in to this conversation, they were talking bout the Mil-Az game.......I live in dreaded D-back country, but yes, do praise HIM!
2008-06-02 19:23:52
68.   adrian beltre
im at work scouring old world series tapes for obscure calls with no tv, no vin, and juan pierre still leading off. man, am i thankful for dodger thoughts!
2008-06-02 19:24:33
69.   Bluebleeder87
Nice call by the blue, I really thought Pierre was safe.
2008-06-02 19:24:47
70.   ucladodger
That was a damn good play, especially for a guy who never played 2nd before and was a 3rd baseman. I wonder if we have any of those type of guys at AAA or in the majors.
2008-06-02 19:24:58
71.   Eric Stephen
Rockies are laying the groundwork for having a former top 3B prospect playing 2B at the big league level.
2008-06-02 19:25:20
72.   underdog
Yeesh, I go have a quick dinner and already the Dodgers are down 1-zip.
2008-06-02 19:25:33
73.   ucladodger
He did it! Finally! Thank you Matt.
2008-06-02 19:25:37
74.   Bluebleeder87
Kemp pretty much one handed that double
2008-06-02 19:25:57
75.   sporky
2008-06-02 19:26:02
76.   Gen3Blue
And I innocently thought we wouldn't meet a team more statistically likely to win than we were.

By the way, I caught three trout more than a foot long today, in a spring that is the worst for fishing I have ever seen. Today almost redeemed a sad time for me and my fishing buddy.
Stewart looks fine, maybe one of our third basemen could look that good at second.

2008-06-02 19:26:14
77.   underdog

I almost Charlie Steinered that one.

2008-06-02 19:26:38
78.   DodgerSinceBirth
I dont know why but w/Matt kemp's DBL, i think we were cheated out of a run w/ that sorry call by the ump
2008-06-02 19:26:38
79.   Andrew Shimmin
Kick it again, Yorvit. You've almost got it beaten into submission.
2008-06-02 19:26:43
80.   Gen3Blue
Kemp--what a lead-off hitter.
2008-06-02 19:26:44
81.   bhsportsguy
The Vegetarian just hit a homer. 4-3 Brewers.
2008-06-02 19:27:21
82.   underdog
There is something so reassuring after a tough road trip for the Dodgers to hear Vin's dulcet tones. Man, I missed him!
2008-06-02 19:28:01
83.   Eric Stephen
I thought the throw beat Pierre. Great play by Stewart either way.
2008-06-02 19:28:11
84.   Andrew Shimmin
Stocked ponds on both sides.
2008-06-02 19:28:11
85.   bhsportsguy
Jeff took that article by Jon personally.
2008-06-02 19:28:19
86.   ucladodger
Now this is what our offense should be doing the whole year. Not that hard, guys, is it?
2008-06-02 19:28:21
87.   sporky
Another XBH!!!!
2008-06-02 19:28:37
88.   Bluebleeder87
we're gonna win this one come hell or high water.
2008-06-02 19:28:43
89.   DodgerSinceBirth
Chicks dig the long ball, even if it comes from a 40 yr old.
2008-06-02 19:29:05
90.   underdog
{faint} Another extra base hit!

Gosh, it's good to be home.

2008-06-02 19:29:15
91.   sporky
Jeff Kent and Gary Bennett looked like BFF there.
2008-06-02 19:29:33
92.   Andrew Shimmin
Was that Tiffee, joking with Kent? The blond guy in the wind breaker?
2008-06-02 19:29:42
93.   underdog
"Reynolds, a long way from Stanford..." -- Vin.
2008-06-02 19:30:05
94.   fanerman
It'd be great if Jeff starts OPSing .900 again. Or even .850.
2008-06-02 19:30:17
95.   underdog
91 Gary Bennett is allowed to be in the dugout?
2008-06-02 19:30:17
96.   Andrew Shimmin
Oh! Bennett. Makes sense they'd be pals.
2008-06-02 19:30:38
97.   DodgerSinceBirth
83, i think my love for the dodgers and aging eyes got the best of me there.
2008-06-02 19:31:21
98.   Andrew Shimmin
It was Bennett.
2008-06-02 19:31:26
99.   Bluebleeder87
Milwaukee has taken a 4-3 lead in the 8th.
2008-06-02 19:31:27
100.   sporky
95 He was allowed on the pregame radio show.
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2008-06-02 19:31:30
101.   Eric Stephen
Since the "Bad, Bad OPS" post on May 26, Kent is at .400/.429/.700 in 21 PA.
2008-06-02 19:33:22
102.   Bob Hendley
Jeez, I was just about to do a Bluebleeder after Kemp scored and proclaim: Lowe tide. And then Kenty went and messed it up.
2008-06-02 19:33:31
103.   Eric Stephen
Jeff Kent, Dodger 2008 HR leader.
2008-06-02 19:34:06
104.   Eric Stephen
I hope it doesn't happen but you can still use that if Lowe gives up a run! :)
2008-06-02 19:34:07
105.   sporky
LaRoche, our 2B-in-training, has an RBI single.
2008-06-02 19:35:25
106.   bhsportsguy
Greg Reynolds was the 2nd pick in the 2006 draft.

Players drafted after Reynolds include:
Evan Longoria
Brandon Morrow
Andrew Miller
Clayton Kershaw
Tim Lincecum
Max Scherzer

2008-06-02 19:35:43
107.   Eric Stephen
Is that 3 straight games at 2B for Andy?
2008-06-02 19:35:43
108.   Bob Hendley
104 - Bite your tongue.
2008-06-02 19:36:21
109.   bhsportsguy
The hopes and dreams of the Brewers rest with Salomon Torres.
2008-06-02 19:37:47
110.   Gen3Blue
Very good sign, Lowe getting a few ground balls, but we have not established much yet.
Lets go!
2008-06-02 19:37:58
111.   Bob Timmermann
All of the #1 seeds in the NCAA Tournament have won or are winning today. I fear that Fullerton will add to that.

I'm more fatalistic about UCLA baseball than D4P is about Oregon football.

2008-06-02 19:38:13
112.   sporky
107 Sì!
2008-06-02 19:38:41
113.   DodgerSinceBirth
109, not only the brewers' hopes, but this guy's as well.
2008-06-02 19:38:59
114.   Bob Timmermann
That accent mark is going the wrong direction. This ain't French!
2008-06-02 19:39:54
115.   sporky
114 Wikipedia lied to me!
2008-06-02 19:40:17
116.   Eric Stephen
I hope you posted that with two thumbs pointing back at yourself.
2008-06-02 19:40:27
117.   Bob Hendley
112 - I hear he turned a double play the other night. Any more reports on how he is doing there at 2nd?
2008-06-02 19:40:40
118.   DodgerSinceBirth
The Brewers just cannot complete a play, and "SuttonGasms" continue!!! god spare me please!!!
2008-06-02 19:40:57
119.   bhsportsguy
113 Brewers have made 2 errors so far, 1st and 2nd no out.
2008-06-02 19:41:18
120.   Eric Stephen
Martin is rocking a sweet beard these days.
2008-06-02 19:41:58
121.   DodgerSinceBirth
116,119...that's a big 10-4!
2008-06-02 19:42:18
122.   sporky
117 I don't know much, actually. He hasn't made an error at 2B, if that means anything.
2008-06-02 19:42:31
123.   Andrew Shimmin
Look, I'll put up with you people rooting against my D'backs, but you insult Wikipedia and it's on. Like Donkey Kong.

So, be advised.

2008-06-02 19:44:05
124.   bhsportsguy
2nd and 3rd and one out in Beer town.
2008-06-02 19:44:11
125.   Eric Stephen
I can tolerate your Eric Byrnes worship if you continue to quote Ice Cube.
2008-06-02 19:44:52
126.   underdog
123 You know, son, your mother and I put up with your imaginary friends and for some time we've put up with your imaginary Dbacks fixation but enough is enough. You're grounded until further notice.
2008-06-02 19:45:12
127.   sporky
123 If I can't rely on Wikipedia for cut and paste jobs of wonky accent marks, what good is it?
2008-06-02 19:45:14
128.   Eric Stephen
Is this the first squeeze at Dodger Stadium involving a Reynolds since 9/11/83?
2008-06-02 19:45:42
129.   underdog
Perfect bunt by Lowe there. Nicely squeezed.
2008-06-02 19:45:50
130.   bhsportsguy
Torres is making them long for Gagne.
2008-06-02 19:45:50
131.   Bob Timmermann
Spanish doesn't go for the accent ague.

Sí, se puede!

2008-06-02 19:46:13
132.   underdog
127 - Is it proper to say "squee!" on a squeeze?
2008-06-02 19:46:14
133.   DodgerSinceBirth
125,126...HAHAHAHA!! thats funny, bases loaded 1 out in "beer town"
2008-06-02 19:46:34
134.   Bob Timmermann
You don't think the Dodgers ever squeezed on Shane Reynolds?
2008-06-02 19:47:04
135.   Indiana Jon
Was Kemp's double well hit? I missed the whole first inning. Once I read Bob's detailed description of crocheting vs. knitting, I immediately took off to enter him on Jeopardy. I've always said the people on that show don't know much about any one thing. What they do know is little meaningless facts about every single subject in the world, except sports. Bob will be perfect.
2008-06-02 19:47:30
136.   sporky
132 As long as it's a LAD run!
2008-06-02 19:47:30
137.   Eric Stephen
Juan Pierre, RISP machine.

Mariah esque throw in from Taveras.

2008-06-02 19:48:11
138.   DodgerSinceBirth
XBH'S again!!
2008-06-02 19:48:16
139.   underdog
Juan Pierre, RBI machine!
2008-06-02 19:48:44
140.   underdog
Well, then, squee! times 2.
2008-06-02 19:48:51
141.   sporky
137 She makes a mockery of 'girly throws.'
2008-06-02 19:48:58
142.   Eric Stephen
It almost looked like he swung one handed. If anything, Kemp was out in front but as we know a mere wave of the Bison Bat is enough to send a baseball careening toward the wall.
2008-06-02 19:49:31
143.   Indiana Jon
137 I noticed it was bad, but Mariah esque is the perfect description!
2008-06-02 19:49:40
144.   underdog
135 - Yep, it was ripped. With extra Bison strength.
2008-06-02 19:49:44
145.   DodgerSinceBirth
Hell yes, 2 outs for the snakes due to a pop fly (infield)
2008-06-02 19:50:18
146.   bhsportsguy
Two down, its up to Drew against the Brew.
2008-06-02 19:50:19
147.   underdog
Reynolds might as well be wearing high heels himself the way he's pitching.
2008-06-02 19:50:39
148.   Bob Timmermann
You need to work in female-dominated profession.
2008-06-02 19:50:46
149.   KG16
I think Taveras was more annoyed with Pierre getting a hit than trying to get the ball to second.
2008-06-02 19:50:57
150.   Eric Stephen
Lowe looks much better without the hippie locks.

("John Unitas. Now there's a haircut you can set your watch to.")

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2008-06-02 19:51:12
151.   DodgerSinceBirth
2008-06-02 19:51:28
152.   NWdodger
Off the subject, but the Stanley Cup playoff game has gone into overtime.
2008-06-02 19:51:43
153.   bhsportsguy
Well that is a hard way to get a save but he catches Drew looking on a 2-2 inside fastball.
2008-06-02 19:51:44
154.   Indiana Jon
How good would Rich Harden be if he could ever stay healthy?
2008-06-02 19:51:47
155.   Andrew Shimmin
JD Drew's little brother choked with the bases loaded. Snakes lose.
2008-06-02 19:51:59
156.   KG16
150 - I'm so glad I'm not the only guy who refers to random Simpsons quotes during the ordinary course of business. I just wish I didn't have to explain so many of them.
2008-06-02 19:52:13
157.   Eric Stephen
Yeah, it seemed like the ball just slipped out of his hand as he threw it. Doesn't Taveras have a decent arm normally?
2008-06-02 19:52:16
158.   underdog
Man, I'm so pleased that the Dodgers tired the Mets out before their trip to SF so the Giants could put up a 6 spot on them in the first inning. How swell and peachy and neat.

Wish the Dodgers could've faced O Perez in NY for that matter.

2008-06-02 19:52:39
159.   Indiana Jon
148 Why? Am I being politically incorrect again?
2008-06-02 19:52:40
160.   DodgerSinceBirth
The first thing Daron Sutton said....."they handed the win" god....these guys cannot admit anything!!!
2008-06-02 19:54:19
161.   NWdodger
Nice to see Prince Fielder get his first stolen base of the season!
2008-06-02 19:54:40
162.   Eric Stephen
Daron Sutton would be easier to tolerate if he sported the hereditary perm.

(That's a little too much hair talk by me this evening)

2008-06-02 19:55:11
163.   underdog
Derek Lowe has settled down ever since I started watching the game. Oh, you're welcome, it's no problem, glad to be of assistance.
2008-06-02 19:55:25
164.   Bob Timmermann
No, you can go and ask people why knitting is so popular is now and how it differs from crocheting and find people glad to tell you.
2008-06-02 19:56:04
165.   NWdodger
Vintage Lowe - three ground outs. Is he back?
2008-06-02 19:56:12
166.   DodgerSinceBirth
I dont think at this point I can wash this guy with anything, not even with a fire engine hose on full blast.
2008-06-02 19:56:50
167.   underdog
You can also have a discussion with my g/f about how cross-stitching is totally different than either of them, and its own peculiar intricacies. It's fascinating, let me tell ya!
2008-06-02 19:57:24
168.   Bluebleeder87
you can't help & love Russell you know he wants to be in there but he must sit today.
2008-06-02 19:57:46
169.   Eric Stephen
Extra Base City tonight!!!
2008-06-02 19:57:52
170.   sporky
2008-06-02 19:57:52
171.   Indiana Jon
164 If I talked about knitting in my line of work, they would probably get rid of me quickly.
2008-06-02 19:57:54
172.   KG16
Andre Ethier, you're my hero
2008-06-02 19:58:11
173.   Eric Stephen
Oh by the way, thanks underdog!
2008-06-02 19:58:33
174.   Bluebleeder87
the time zone change hasn't really affected the boys in blue.
2008-06-02 19:58:39
175.   underdog
This is fun!

It's neat to face stinky pitchers for a change, too.

Squee, indeed, squee very much.

2008-06-02 19:58:48
176.   Bob Timmermann
Don't knit, don't pearl.
2008-06-02 19:59:01
177.   Eric Stephen
Russ will find a way into the lineup eventually tonight. :)
2008-06-02 19:59:19
178.   immouch
any chance we can ban knitting and crochet as topics? my manhood is on thin ice as it is... jeesh.
2008-06-02 19:59:41
179.   underdog
174 - It's affected the Mets, apparently.
2008-06-02 20:00:10
180.   fanerman
I'm knitting, but for charity. I'm comfortable with myself.
2008-06-02 20:00:32
181.   Indiana Jon
164 However, I do have a female secretary now, so tomorrow when no one is listening, I plan to ask her the difference. Just for a test.
2008-06-02 20:00:34
182.   sporky
Jon Meloan struck out Chase Headley, and then proceeded to walk the next 2 batters.
2008-06-02 20:01:12
183.   sporky
178 I apologize for introducing crocheting into the conversation.
2008-06-02 20:01:41
184.   KG16
ok, the prop 98 commercial got me wondering, and my research skills are failing me... what happens if two constitutional amendment initiatives are on the ballot regarding the same thing and they get the same number of votes?
2008-06-02 20:01:58
185.   natepurcell
line drive! line drive!
2008-06-02 20:02:08
186.   KG16
did that count as a line drive?
2008-06-02 20:02:26
187.   KG16
185 , 186 - heh
2008-06-02 20:02:29
188.   Bob Timmermann
Why should you apologize for introducing crocheting? I brought up knitting.

I can't do either. I assumed that if I tried to knit I would impale my arm on a knitting needle.

2008-06-02 20:03:20
189.   Woden325
Hi guys. Am I late for the home run derby?
2008-06-02 20:03:33
190.   underdog
178 Hope you're at least wearing heavy pants.
2008-06-02 20:03:37
191.   sporky
Add another K for Meloan. So far, 3 innings, 3K, 4BB, 1ER.
2008-06-02 20:03:57
192.   Bob Timmermann
The EXACT same number of votes?

You know how hard that would be with the number of votes there are in California?

2008-06-02 20:04:29
193.   underdog
182 That's Hedy!

Sorry, had to get one last Harvey Korman appreciation in.

2008-06-02 20:04:39
194.   Indiana Jon
189 No, but more importantly do you do Latch hook, crocheting, sewing, knitting, cross stitch or macrame?
2008-06-02 20:04:55
195.   DodgerSinceBirth
you know I really dont get it, the two teams we almost always annihillate, are beating the teams we just couldnt beat this past road trip.
2008-06-02 20:05:21
196.   Andrew Shimmin
184- The ghost of Howard Jarvis thumb-wrestles Willie Brown in the event of a tie.
2008-06-02 20:06:19
197.   immouch
183: i'm knitting between posts.
2008-06-02 20:06:21
198.   Eric Stephen
I contend the Dodgers haven't "almost always annihilated" the Padres in recent years.
2008-06-02 20:06:22
199.   Lexinthedena
193 Splendid! Splendid!
2008-06-02 20:06:24
200.   underdog
Keep in mind those two teams then had to make a cross country trip with no day off so it's not super shocking.

I just hope the Cubs continue to be tired Thursday and into next weekend so the Dodgers can exact some revenge on them.

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2008-06-02 20:06:50
201.   Gen3Blue
Hey, that was a strike!
2008-06-02 20:06:57
202.   Bob Timmermann
UCLA is going to make it very hard for me to root for them tonight as they have some extraordinarily ugly uniforms on tonight.

CSUF's on the other hand are quite classy.

2008-06-02 20:07:44
203.   KG16
192 - I know it's improbable, but given everything we've seen in the last 12 years, it'd be nice to know the answer just in case.

196 - would that be on PPV?

2008-06-02 20:08:43
204.   sporky
I quilt, too! By hand!
2008-06-02 20:08:44
205.   Woden325
194 I can crochet and sew. Not that I'm bragging.
2008-06-02 20:08:45
206.   KG16
202 - that might be the first time I've seen "CSUF" and "classy" in the same sentence.
2008-06-02 20:08:47
207.   underdog
Okay, c'mon Lowe. Let's not have to use the bullpen much tonight.
2008-06-02 20:09:52
208.   KG16
I throw shirts away when I lose a button, even if there are the extras inside. Unless it happens to be a shirt that I have dry cleaned, then I have them do it.
2008-06-02 20:09:56
209.   underdog
It's quite a raucous atmosphere at Dodger Stadium tonight.
2008-06-02 20:09:57
210.   immouch
if anybody wonders why the rockies aren't a great team this year - or wonders if our management is the whackiest in the NL West - take a gander at the stats for torrealba and chris ianetta. one starts, one doesn't.
2008-06-02 20:10:10
211.   Bob Timmermann
If Prop 98 and 99 both pass and both get the exact number of votes, I'm buying 100 Juan Pierre jerseys to hand out to people who ask for them.
2008-06-02 20:10:31
212.   Bob Hendley
178 - OK, but Bluebleeder reserves the right to use the work crochety when referring to Kenty.
2008-06-02 20:10:40
213.   sporky
Andy with a double! XBH in Vegas, too!
2008-06-02 20:10:44
214.   Gen3Blue
Better than PVL.
2008-06-02 20:10:56
215.   Indiana Jon
204 I love quilts. Will you make me one?
2008-06-02 20:11:05
216.   Andrew Shimmin
How much does the dry cleaner charge to throw your shirt away?
2008-06-02 20:11:46
217.   Bob Hendley
Woden325 reveals his presence (and his abilities).
2008-06-02 20:11:54
218.   Xeifrank
Our win expectancy is 91%. I'm surprised Guo isn't warming up in the pen. :)
vr, Xei
2008-06-02 20:12:09
219.   thinkblue88
206. hey now!

go csuf!

2008-06-02 20:13:01
220.   sporky
215 Sure. For a hefty fee, of course.
2008-06-02 20:13:10
221.   Indiana Jon
216 I love it when a sentence on the computer makes me laugh loudly. My dog loves it to, he gets excited when he hears me.
2008-06-02 20:13:18
222.   underdog
211 But first you'll have to get someone here to knit you some Pierre jerseys because I don't know if there are that many in existence.
2008-06-02 20:14:27
223.   natepurcell

I wonder if all the walks are a by product of pitching in vegas and being too fine or because he has no control.

2008-06-02 20:14:41
224.   Bob Timmermann
For those not watching, UCLA is wearing a dark blue top with white panels in the arms. Then they have grey pants and some guys are showing the light blue socks and others aren't.

CSUF has their home unis which are white with blue pinstripes. And the players almost all have the stirrups pulled up correctly.

2008-06-02 20:14:57
225.   KG16
219 - sorry, Orange County kid that went to Long Beach State, don't much like the Titans.

216 - surprisingly, about the same they charge to sew a button on the shirt. And I get a shirt that looks just like the one I had them throw away. It's quite a deal, really.

2008-06-02 20:15:38
226.   Indiana Jon
218 I sometimes get the feeling at a game or in a bar some night, I'm going to bet a large amount of money based on your win expectancy.
2008-06-02 20:15:49
227.   underdog
Are we on yellow alert for Andy LaRoche? Or is that chartreuse?
2008-06-02 20:16:02
228.   Bob Hendley
Someone should knit JP a hair shirt.
2008-06-02 20:16:48
229.   gpellamjr
221 Don't tell Shimmin when he makes you laugh. He would rather think that his jokes are too edgy for us plebeians to understand.
2008-06-02 20:17:18
230.   Gen3Blue
I'm always sorry to disagree with Vin--but a comfortable 5-1 lead? With these Dodgers?
2008-06-02 20:17:22
231.   PalmdaleSteve1
The Jack in the Box commercial for the fruit thing a jigger is just sick.
2008-06-02 20:17:25
232.   Woden325
The Coors Light "Venting for Men" commercials make me ashamed to be a Coloradan. The Colorado Rockies are not far behind.
2008-06-02 20:17:36
233.   natepurcell

Andy's low XBH% and low LD% so far in AAA suggests to me he isn't 100% healed and can't drive the ball effectively.

2008-06-02 20:18:08
234.   KG16
224 - wow, those are ugly uniforms that UCLA is wearing, something I would expect from UCI
2008-06-02 20:18:51
235.   Bob Hendley
230 - IIRC we have lost three games this season in which we scored 5 runs. None when we score 6.
2008-06-02 20:18:51
236.   Indiana Jon
229 On the contrary, I love his edgy (simple) jokes, but I have no idea what a plebeian is. Does that mean I am edgy?
2008-06-02 20:19:00
237.   sporky
Why is Torrealba starting over Iannetta (114 OPS+)? Does his defense make up for his 54 OPS+?
2008-06-02 20:19:28
238.   underdog
Do people in Colorado actually drink Coors Light? I guess they probably do, but when I was there a couple of times I saw people drinking microbrews and other brands, almost as if in rebellion.

Coors Light reminds me of that joke I heard on Monty Python about American beer being like making love in a canoe, and no I can't repeat the punchline here.

2008-06-02 20:19:51
239.   Gen3Blue
Hu has a gun.
2008-06-02 20:20:19
240.   Bob Hendley
I think that we are just a bunch of nancys for letting Shimmin hang around.
2008-06-02 20:20:29
241.   underdog
233 Shush! There might be management here reading this blog.
2008-06-02 20:21:19
242.   Bob Timmermann
I assume that since UCLA is playing an extra day and they are on the road, they are wearing the equivalent of batting practice tops.

UCLA teams aren't supposed to wear that shade of blue.

Are UCI's uniforms that bad?

2008-06-02 20:22:46
243.   Woden325
238 It sells disturbingly well. I like plain Coors, mostly because of nostalgia: it was my grandfather's favorite.
But Colorado does have many good micro/craft brewers (New Belgium and Bristol Brewing come to mind) to counter the Coors/Anheuser Busch axis.
2008-06-02 20:23:03
244.   sporky
OT: It turns out I'm not guaranteed housing at UCLA this fall. If need be, is it relatively easy to find affordable housing near campus?
2008-06-02 20:23:15
245.   KG16
242 - UCI's are close to the one's UCLA are wearing. I was really just taking a shot at UCI, since we've got Titans in the room.

Also, it's not like Westwood is really that far from Fullerton.

2008-06-02 20:23:41
246.   Gen3Blue
238 I think I got it.
I can probably finish this joke here.
If you are American in the kitchen; and you're American in the living room; what are you in the bathroom?


2008-06-02 20:24:29
247.   Bob Timmermann
UCLA has been staying in Fullerton all weekend.

And UCLA really got bailed out of a potential disaster there.

2008-06-02 20:25:09
248.   gpellamjr
246 That joke is offensive to my sensibilities.
2008-06-02 20:25:32
249.   Bob Hendley
246 - I sense a lack of tension here tonight.
2008-06-02 20:25:43
250.   sporky
Wow, XBH galore.
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2008-06-02 20:25:50
251.   underdog
242 Was that really a picture of a UCI player and does it really say "Eaters" on their jersey? I mean, if you can't fully embrace your team nickname, then might as well change it entirely.
2008-06-02 20:25:55
252.   Daniel Zappala
I can quilt and cross-stitch. But I was spending my evening installing a new sprinkler valve so I can add a drip irrigation zone to my side yard.
2008-06-02 20:26:00
253.   LoneStar7
bison smacking it around tonight.
2008-06-02 20:26:36
254.   fanerman
That Bison sure is fast.
2008-06-02 20:27:17
255.   Bob Timmermann
Ryan Spilorghs always reminds of the Mexican director that Mr. Burns hired to direct his film for the Springfield Film Festival.
2008-06-02 20:27:26
256.   underdog
That was a really nice play by Spilborghs.
2008-06-02 20:27:40
257.   Bob Hendley
Kemp apparently wanted to get a real good look at that ball.
2008-06-02 20:27:42
258.   Woden325
237 I don't think there's all that much difference defensively. Clint Hurdle works in mysterious ways his blunders to perform.
2008-06-02 20:28:53
259.   underdog
255 - Senor Spielbergo? Yes his "A Burns for All Seasons" was a fine work.
2008-06-02 20:31:06
260.   KG16
I'd have Kemp try and steal third here, just because
2008-06-02 20:31:56
261.   sporky
Meloan up to 5 strikeouts now.
2008-06-02 20:32:08
262.   underdog
I know where Pacifica is Vin, I'm only 8 miles from there! Oh wait, he's not just talking to me. Sometimes I forget.
2008-06-02 20:32:44
263.   Gen3Blue
248,249 as I come out of hiding.---We have sensibilities here?
2008-06-02 20:33:35
264.   Bob Hendley
260 - Our advantage here seems to involve the pitcher throwing it to the plate. Don't want to include the catcher throwing it to third.
2008-06-02 20:34:03
265.   LoneStar7
atta boy Lone dog, atta boy
2008-06-02 20:34:14
266.   Woden325
Aw, blimey. Good ol' Willy.
2008-06-02 20:34:45
267.   scareduck
I am so enjoying this DeWitt IBB.
2008-06-02 20:34:53
268.   KG16
DeWitt's OBP goes up without even trying
2008-06-02 20:34:57
269.   Indiana Jon
Jeff Kent got out of his seat to bump fists with Kemp! No more chemistry problems.
2008-06-02 20:35:02
270.   underdog
Torrealba sure is having some issues holding on to balls today though. That was kind of poorly played by him and Taveras to even bother throwing home in the first place.
2008-06-02 20:35:34
271.   sporky
I feel bad for Reynolds, despite his facial hair. It's no fun seeing a rookie pummeled.
2008-06-02 20:37:01
272.   Bob Hendley
269 - Soon they'll be knitting together.
2008-06-02 20:37:55
273.   Indiana Jon
272 with two straight needles.
2008-06-02 20:38:36
274.   Woden325
And KOA is on the blink. They ran the aforementioned Coors commercial on top of an EAS Tornado Warning.
2008-06-02 20:38:37
275.   sporky
Andy reaches on a throwing error.
2008-06-02 20:39:15
276.   still bevens
So excuse me if this has been discussed before (I was on vacation for 10 days) but did Bennett really go on the DL because of a 'psychological' problem that rendered him unable to throw back to the pitcher? That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard.
2008-06-02 20:39:41
277.   Bob Hendley
271 - Do you have any facial hair issues with the Golden God?
2008-06-02 20:40:22
278.   Woden325
276 Sounds like the rookie in Major League II.
2008-06-02 20:40:42
279.   KG16
276 - Chuck Knoughblach and Steve Sax disagree
2008-06-02 20:41:03
280.   scareduck
Not to be dropping the ball, Derek.
2008-06-02 20:41:12
281.   underdog
Wowsa. I just saw that Will Carroll's setting a new low in banality over on The Juice blog. I... yeah.
2008-06-02 20:41:33
282.   Bob Timmermann
Officially, Bennett went on the DL with plantar fasciitis.

But players have been DLed for psychological problems involving playing the game. Teams can use that as a valid excuse to put a player on the DL.

2008-06-02 20:42:41
283.   sporky
277 I have no issue with the Golden God. I, however, have a huge issue with Spilborgh's ill-advised landing strip of a soulpatch.
2008-06-02 20:42:45
284.   Bob Hendley
276 - Its pretty much the consensus around here that he was "willed" onto the DL by Shimmin. So yes, Bennett had a psychological problem.
2008-06-02 20:42:49
285.   underdog
276 No, not officially anyway. He went on the DL with plantar fascitis, which is a very real and painful foot injury. Whether that was real, or the main problem, is in a sealed file at the Pentagon however. The psychological problem with throwing back to the mound clearly sped things up, that's for sure.
2008-06-02 20:43:05
286.   Gen3Blue
Good old Vin. He is so pro Loney. And most of our young guys.
2008-06-02 20:43:14
287.   LoneStar7
I know you can have butter fingers, but what you say after a drop like that? Butterglove?
2008-06-02 20:43:18
288.   underdog
I keep forgetting Spilborghs went to UCSB. No wonder I don't dislike him.
2008-06-02 20:43:23
289.   Woden325
281 Why that blog is on the toaster is beyond me. It really don't fit in.
2008-06-02 20:44:42
290.   underdog
Or what Bob T said.

I think they initially tried to DL him with "severe brain cramps" but decided against it.

2008-06-02 20:45:45
291.   Gen3Blue
Good old Jaun caught it. I finally figured out what was bugging me. He looks so like a Jockey. And even more I will not say.
2008-06-02 20:46:32
292.   Bob Timmermann
I saw Rick Ankiel once listed as being on the DL with "psychological inability to play."

Tim Worrell and Rob Bell were put on the DL in recent years with psychological problems, but I think they were "run of the mill" problems like anxiety and depression.

2008-06-02 20:46:57
293.   Bob Hendley
Everyone with a soulpatch, raise your hand.
2008-06-02 20:47:22
294.   scareduck
That was an interesting out by Hu. Hit pretty well.
2008-06-02 20:48:30
295.   Woden325
293 does sloppy shaving count? I missed a spot this morning.
2008-06-02 20:49:21
296.   Bob Hendley
De la Rosa from the Sultanes!
2008-06-02 20:53:00
297.   sporky
293 If I had to take a razor to my face everyday, I might be more partial towards soulpatches and the like.
2008-06-02 20:54:07
298.   Bob Hendley
Vintage Lowe, now into the 7th.
2008-06-02 20:58:44
299.   sporky
Meloan adds 2 more strikes and is taken out after 5.2 innings. 5BB, 7K, 1ER.
2008-06-02 20:59:13
300.   sporky
strikes = strike outs
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2008-06-02 21:00:07
301.   LoneStar7
Bison glad to be home..
2008-06-02 21:00:08
302.   Eric Stephen
Did someone order some Bison Power?
2008-06-02 21:01:14
303.   Gen3Blue
Damn, I think Kemp could play center not even adequately, but gracefully. We've spent how much on center fielders over the last few years?
2008-06-02 21:01:27
304.   Eric Stephen
Tonight is the first 3 XBH game of Kemp's career.
2008-06-02 21:01:38
305.   natepurcell
2008-06-02 21:01:42
306.   Woden325
I thought Dodger Stadium was supposed to be pitcher friendly. Maybe that only works with good pitchers.
2008-06-02 21:02:08
307.   Bob Timmermann
UCLA is doomed. Down 2-0, they'll likely lose by 15.
2008-06-02 21:02:30
308.   underdog
I'm standing on cycle alert, Bob!
2008-06-02 21:04:09
309.   scareduck
306 - since the advent of the foul ground seats and Petco in the same division, Dodger Stadium is no longer a pitcher's park compared to its peers.
2008-06-02 21:04:11
310.   underdog
Btw, I was watching some of Sportscenter for awhile and I kid you not, they had three reports on David Ortiz going on the DL. First the news. Then a few minutes later a live interview with ESPN medical advisor to talk about the injury, and then sometime later another analyst in to discuss it further. Hi-larious.

Like that old SNL sketch, "Buckwheat has been shot."

2008-06-02 21:06:35
311.   fanerman
Matt Kemp's slugging percentage is gonna be higher tomorrow.
2008-06-02 21:06:55
312.   Bob Hendley
This is not topline pitching, but the Bison sure looks good out there, pulling the ball a bit more.
2008-06-02 21:07:25
313.   sporky
I love Vin.
2008-06-02 21:08:13
314.   LoneStar7
second hit for J-Lo, lets hope he and Bison can be big during this home stand...How about a Solution knock here?
2008-06-02 21:09:45
315.   Eric Stephen
The only Dodger to have more than 3 XBH in a game since 5/23/02 (Shawn Green's 4 HR + 1 2B game) is...

Juan Pierre.

2008-06-02 21:11:03
316.   LoneStar7
yahoo, smart move by Lonestar
2008-06-02 21:11:06
317.   skybluestoday
Whoo! That sounds like a cool play even on the radio. Props to M. Dewitt.
2008-06-02 21:11:26
318.   underdog
That was as poorly played as possible.

Does Ardoin get an ardoin-b-i on that?

2008-06-02 21:11:45
319.   Woden325
Not exactly a textbook rundown.
2008-06-02 21:12:06
320.   ucladodger
I come back and see the Bison went yard! He sat on that and pulled it. One of the best swings hes taken all year.
2008-06-02 21:12:31
321.   JoeyP
Rockies may lose 100 games this year.
2008-06-02 21:12:39
322.   Eric Stephen
Kemp is at .320/.368/.474 right now (up from .311/.361/.442 before the game)
2008-06-02 21:13:01
323.   Bob Timmermann
The official scorer did not give Ardoin an RBI.
2008-06-02 21:13:02
324.   LoneStar7
does danny get that RBI?
2008-06-02 21:13:34
325.   natepurcell
This would be a good time to move Dewitt over to 2b.
2008-06-02 21:13:58
326.   fanerman
So, does this mean Russell gets the entire day off?
2008-06-02 21:14:00
327.   skybluestoday
Never mind, then. Hard to tell when you're just getting it on the airwaves.
2008-06-02 21:14:01
328.   Woden325
321 Check out Mark TR Donohue's latest post. It's really annoying that the Rockies are playing this badly with almost the same team as last year.
2008-06-02 21:14:11
329.   Gen3Blue
Yeah, Dodger Stadiums being pitcher friendly is in the past.

LOL Buckwheat goes down.

2008-06-02 21:14:45
330.   sporky
LaRoche with a walk.
2008-06-02 21:16:20
331.   Gen3Blue
326 So far, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a game where Martin couldn't weasle into at least one at bat, or maybe pitch runner.
2008-06-02 21:16:32
332.   underdog
328 Tulo obviously makes a big difference. Though, yeah, it doesn't explain quite how badly they've been doing.

326 I sure hope so.

2008-06-02 21:17:25
333.   Bob Timmermann
Reports of UCLA's death were premature. The game is tied at 2-2 in the 4th.
2008-06-02 21:17:27
334.   bhsportsguy
UCLA comes back to tie it up 2-2 in the top of the third.
2008-06-02 21:17:42
335.   Bob Hendley
330 - That he just keeps on walking and arrives in LA for the weekend series.
2008-06-02 21:18:12
336.   JoeyP
328--Tulo's the key to your entire team IMO. His suckage this year was the death knell for the Rox.
2008-06-02 21:18:19
337.   Eric Stephen
Applauding Lowe from the living room.
2008-06-02 21:19:26
338.   Woden325
332 Yes and no. Tulo had problems before the injury. But he is a great motivator on a team that really needs a kick in the pants.
2008-06-02 21:19:49
339.   sporky
For the first time in a week, I have no need for my Rubik's cube. Ah, a stress-free game!
2008-06-02 21:19:59
340.   bhsportsguy
334 Sorry, the 4th.

328 I thought some guy named Matt Holliday wasn't playing too.

2008-06-02 21:22:22
341.   ucladodger

Sporky, if you need housing, you need to start looking now. It will be really hard for you to find a place, and if you do, it will be pricey.

2008-06-02 21:23:23
342.   Gen3Blue
Who should pitch the ninth. I'm for Wade unless Sammy or someone needs the work.
2008-06-02 21:25:04
343.   Louis in SF
What are the odds that we go back old school and let a pitcher complete his work? I think despite a depleted Colorado team, Lowe going 9 would have been great, Torre is pulling him, 110 pitches!.....You have to love the Vin story about a Dodger road losing streak from WWll.
2008-06-02 21:25:27
344.   Eric Stephen
I vote Sweeney. Then Wade.
2008-06-02 21:25:27
345.   imperabo
2008-06-02 21:25:44
346.   underdog
This is two straight great starts by Lowe, very good sign.

Tomorrow will be the battle of underachieving pitchers.

2008-06-02 21:25:45
347.   sporky
341 Where would be the best place to look for off campus housing?
2008-06-02 21:26:13
348.   NWdodger
Yeah! Sweeney just pushed his average above .100.
2008-06-02 21:26:24
349.   fanerman
A Mark Sweeneyp sighting?
2008-06-02 21:27:17
350.   JoeyP
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2008-06-02 21:27:32
351.   underdog
I actually would bring Proctor in. I know that sounds odd, but he's been really struggling and in a no-pressure situation would be good to get him some work. If he struggles more, you pull him quickly.
2008-06-02 21:27:35
352.   Gen3Blue
342 Sweeney or Loney could probably do it!
2008-06-02 21:28:03
353.   Bob Timmermann
Did somebody say "affordable" and "housing" and "near UCLA"?

Excuse while I go off and laugh for about 20 minutes.

2008-06-02 21:28:09
354.   imperabo
See, the vet Sweeney knows how to win. He saves it for these sitations.
2008-06-02 21:28:24
355.   Gen3Blue
Make that 344
2008-06-02 21:28:36
356.   silverwidow
Did anyone mention McDizzle's awesome start today? 7 inning, no walk, 8 K gem.
2008-06-02 21:28:44
357.   dzzrtRatt
Vin: "The Dodgers leave Sweeney at second."

Me: Is that allowed?

2008-06-02 21:28:53
358.   underdog
Aren't we supposed to be standing up for the Bison's at bat?
2008-06-02 21:28:56
359.   ucladodger

Craigs list, the Daily Bruin, places like that. Everything is expensive, though, so expect rent to be at least $600-700 to share a room. I'm guessing you need housing for next school year?

2008-06-02 21:29:01
360.   jtrichey
Sweeney just forgot how many outs there were again. He stayed at second on Kemp's 2 out grounder. Tool.
2008-06-02 21:29:09
361.   underdog
Aw. Never mind.
2008-06-02 21:29:27
362.   fordprefect
I'll take a medium, please.
2008-06-02 21:29:27
363.   Gen3Blue
351 Allright.
2008-06-02 21:29:31
364.   silverwidow
Jon Meloan, on the other hand, is having severe control issues as a starter.
2008-06-02 21:29:44
365.   Bob Timmermann
Kemp has two doubles and a homer.
2008-06-02 21:30:17
366.   sporky
359 The problem is, they're not giving me any notification (wait list, housing assignment etc) until July or August.

353 I'm living in Irvine right now, so affordability is relative :/

2008-06-02 21:30:28
367.   scareduck
347 - two places: and Westwood Rentals. The latter is expensive for those on a budget, but they're effective.
2008-06-02 21:32:00
368.   LoneStar7
whens the last time scott pitched, I feel like I haven't seen him in ages, unless I missed something on the road trip..
2008-06-02 21:32:05
369.   silverwidow
Proctor reminds me of a harder throwing Lance Carter.
2008-06-02 21:33:27
370.   Eric Stephen
Proctor pitched the first game at Shea, Thursday night.
2008-06-02 21:33:42
371.   fordprefect
In a word, no.
2008-06-02 21:34:17
372.   underdog
365 - Yah, my mistake, never mind, etc, I thought he'd had a single, too, for some reason. Ah well, I'll take it all the same.
2008-06-02 21:35:50
373.   ucladodger

Don't know what to tell you. Most leases uaround Westwood start pretty soon.

2008-06-02 21:36:46
374.   Woden325
2008-06-02 21:38:12
375.   trainwreck
sporky is much younger than I thought.
2008-06-02 21:38:51
376.   Bob Hendley
Nice shot of the starting pitchers.
2008-06-02 21:38:56
377.   Woden325
Ok. Now lets do that 7 more times!
2008-06-02 21:39:04
378.   underdog
I lived in Westwood for a summer when I did a UCLA program and found a place looking at the UCLA housing board that I had to share with two 19 year old guys. I lived in a bedroom the size of my current bathroom and paid about 500 a month (in 1999). I eventually couldn't take it anymore and moved to Venice Beach that fall.
2008-06-02 21:39:50
379.   sporky
373 Oy. Thanks for your help. (And 367 )

375 I'm going to graduate school! I'm not that young.

2008-06-02 21:40:22
380.   LoneStar7
Just by seeing that comical attempt for the field security to jump over the third base wall, I'm wondering if its really necessary for all those guys to sit right on the field..
2008-06-02 21:40:31
381.   underdog
(I should add that I was 30 at the time so the rambunctious 19 year old guys were more than I wanted to deal with though they were nice.) I also remember how freaking sticky hot it got in Westwood in the summer.
2008-06-02 21:41:10
382.   scareduck
Well. Winning sure feels better than losing.
2008-06-02 21:41:13
383.   Gen3Blue
Allright Udog!
2008-06-02 21:41:58
384.   ucladodger

Are you looking just for the school year?

2008-06-02 21:42:23
385.   underdog
There we go.

We win!

Sorry Woden.

Happy trails all.

2008-06-02 21:42:40
386.   Woden325
382 I wouldn't know.
2008-06-02 21:42:57
387.   Sam DC
Some hockey.
2008-06-02 21:43:00
388.   Bob Timmermann
Westwood is hot in the summer?

So my friend, let me introduce you to the San Fernando and San Gabriel Valleys in the summertime.

2008-06-02 21:43:09
389.   underdog
383 - What I'd do? But you're welcome.
2008-06-02 21:43:22
390.   trainwreck
Well then you are probably near my age, which makes me feel better.

Which school did you go to for undergrad?

2008-06-02 21:43:46
391.   sporky
384 Yep. There's actually a Community Housing Office on the UCLA housing website that has listings for sublets/roommates etc. Things are not as bleak as I feared.
2008-06-02 21:44:23
392.   underdog
388 - Indeed, I worked in the SFV late that summer on a film production and wanted to kill myself. I should add that a) I'd been used to living in the bay area and b) my car had no air conditioning. Thus the move to Venice was one of my better ones.
2008-06-02 21:44:57
393.   Bob Timmermann
Why is the "Stanley Cup Final", but the "NBA Finals?"


2008-06-02 21:45:00
394.   natepurcell
Yea I thought Sporky was older than me.
2008-06-02 21:45:20
395.   sporky
390 The much maligned Brad Ausmus and I have graduated from the same college.
2008-06-02 21:45:28
396.   Bob Hendley
392 SFV-film production? Underdog, you dog.
2008-06-02 21:45:44
397.   natepurcell
eh check that, she probably is.
2008-06-02 21:47:18
398.   Bob Hendley
393 - In the spirit of finals week?
2008-06-02 21:47:39
399.   trainwreck
Funny, my female friend that I got to love the Dodgers is also going to UCLA this fall for grad school.
2008-06-02 21:48:39
400.   underdog
396 Tee hee. I wish.

Though, funny, it did rain frogs on me the last day I was there.

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2008-06-02 21:49:00
401.   sporky
Gameday tells me Andy almost hit one out. Sigh.
2008-06-02 21:49:18
402.   underdog
Whoa. The Broncos waived Travis Henry. Guess I should've seen that coming. He probably showed up to practice with a bag of reefer or something. Seeya!
2008-06-02 21:50:01
403.   sporky
399 What program?
2008-06-02 21:50:34
404.   Bob Timmermann
OK, I've stopped laughing.
2008-06-02 21:51:00
405.   trainwreck
I figured you already saw that in morning, so I was not going to rub it in. I think he didn't report to camp or something.
2008-06-02 21:51:04
406.   LoneStar7
I hope we don't burn out after tonight and save some offense for this big week at home
2008-06-02 21:51:48
407.   trainwreck
City planning. I think that is what its called.
2008-06-02 21:53:00
408.   Bob Hendley
401 - Sporky, you are always on top of the 51s action. There is a Gameday link?
2008-06-02 21:53:22
409.   sporky
407 I'm going into public health. Have her e-mail me at thegreatsporky at gmail dot com so we can commiserate come October.
2008-06-02 21:53:40
410.   Woden325
385 Thanks. And congratulations. Your lot played a much better game.
2008-06-02 21:53:51
411.   ucladodger
UCLA only down 4-3 to Fullerton now. Every time they score we keep coming back. I just dont know if we have the pitching to pull it out. Funny that Rasmussen got the start, as he's a guy i played against a few times.
2008-06-02 21:54:03
412.   underdog
405 - It's fine by me. He coulda been a contender, but too unreliable. They have plenty of other good backs who actually care.

Alrighty, nighty all. Don't forget to vote tomorrow!

2008-06-02 21:54:42
413.   NWdodger
Go to
2008-06-02 21:55:09
414.   underdog

(It's almost over.)

2008-06-02 21:55:29
415.   sporky
408 There's a link on
2008-06-02 21:55:56
416.   Bob Timmermann
There's a lot of bunting in this game. It makes me feel like I'm watching a Japanese game.
2008-06-02 21:56:18
417.   Louis in SF
Any thought on the conflict stories on Furcal in TJ's blog and the the PE blog? I am beginning to wonder if Furcal will ever be healthy again.
2008-06-02 21:59:59
418.   natepurcell
I want to see this lineup sometime this year:

SS Furcal
RF Kemp
LF Ethier
C Martin
1b Loney
CF Jones
2b Laroche
3b Dewitt

the ordering isn't all that important but the veterans need to get healthy.

2008-06-02 22:00:21
419.   Bob Timmermann
I can go and say that Furcal will never be healthy again.

That worked for Kuo.

2008-06-02 22:05:52
420.   trainwreck
Will do.
2008-06-02 22:08:19
421.   Bob Hendley
418 - I am not overly impressed with the Solution's glove work/judgement over the past week, but perhaps there is a comparative advantage in keeping him there and Andy at 2nd.
2008-06-02 22:09:13
422.   natepurcell

Those two are interchangable at either position.

2008-06-02 22:15:50
423.   CanuckDodger
422 -- So, Nate, what are your thoughts on the draft right now? I am getting psyched hoping we get Collier.
2008-06-02 22:18:15
424.   Daniel Zappala
Headline at the L.A. Times:

L.A. pitchers shut down Seattle

Mission accomplished.

2008-06-02 22:18:29
425.   KG16
good god, they're only in the 5th in Fullerton?

Shouldn't there be some sort of mercy rule in college? You know, showing mercy on the fans for such a long game

2008-06-02 22:19:03
426.   LoneStar7
UCLA walks in a run...5-3 Fullerton
2008-06-02 22:20:03
427.   Bob Timmermann
This is faster than last night's game.
2008-06-02 22:20:21
428.   trainwreck
sporky, I sent you an email.
2008-06-02 22:23:11
429.   natepurcell

Me too. Collier would be a nice choice considering he is also a graduate from the inner city academy.

I still have this infatuation with Brett Lawrie and I wouldn't be opposed to selecting him either.

None of the pitchers projected to go around 15 excite me that much except for maybe Melville but it looks like he is going to drop.

2008-06-02 22:30:00
430.   underdog
John Sickels' latest mock draft has the Dodgers taking Ethan Martin, which seems like a relatively sound/safe choice, though I have a feeling he'll be wrong. He has Collier lasting 'til #24.

2008-06-02 22:45:16
431.   Bob Timmermann
The home plate ump in the UCLA-Fullerton game in one AB:
1) negated an HBP by ruling that the UCLA player didn't make enough of an effort to get out of the way.
2) called a pitch about a foot outside strike two instead of ball four.

I feel like a Spurs fan and Joey Crawford has a whistle.

2008-06-02 22:46:36
432.   trainwreck
Good thing you said it before I went on a rant.
2008-06-02 22:47:02
433.   silverwidow
Oh, wow -- I just saw video of Collier and he looks like another Justin Upton. Potentially.
2008-06-02 22:49:16
434.   trainwreck
2008-06-02 22:49:23
435.   Bob Timmermann
CSUF's batters lean into pitches like Ron Hunt and the ump calls it on a UCLA batter.
2008-06-02 22:52:01
436.   trainwreck
Clutch Curtis.
2008-06-02 22:52:49
437.   Bob Timmermann
Fullerton hasn't reached on catcher's interference this game.


2008-06-02 22:57:23
438.   sporky
428 I cc'ed you.
2008-06-02 23:10:26
439.   trainwreck
I am starting to hate Fullerton.

I need more teams to hate in college baseball anyways.

2008-06-02 23:13:03
440.   Bob Timmermann
Fullerton will have me rooting for Stanford in a big way over the weekend.
2008-06-02 23:13:23
441.   natepurcell
fan graphs has Dewitt's LD% up to 18.2%. Wasn't it a lot smaller a couple weeks ago?
2008-06-02 23:23:46
442.   godvls
440 - It's almost un-American for a UCLA fan to root for Stanford unless, of course, they're playing USC. I'll be rooting for all the remaining Pac 10 schools with the exception of the unwashed.
2008-06-02 23:25:23
443.   Bob Timmermann
UCLA is sending up a pinch-hitter to sacrifice?

In the 9th? Down a run?

Fullerton deserves to win in that case.

2008-06-02 23:26:56
444.   godvls
ASU is now 12-0 in post-season softball/baseball. Our toughtest game was the 9-7 baseball victory over Stony Brook.
2008-06-02 23:29:33
445.   trainwreck
2008-06-02 23:31:56
446.   Bob Timmermann
The Griddle has probably lost all of its Cal State Fullerton readers.
2008-06-02 23:34:10
447.   KG16
446 - you have managed to cement your Long Beach State readership
2008-06-02 23:38:25
448.   bhsportsguy
I have feeling there will not be many Stanford alums at CSUF this weekend.

Unless Daniel wants to take his family to Disneyland.

2008-06-02 23:38:27
449.   bhsportsguy
I have feeling there will not be many Stanford alums at CSUF this weekend.

Unless Daniel wants to take his family to Disneyland.

2008-06-02 23:42:04
450.   Bob Timmermann
I'll head over to the Cal State Fullerton campus and try to burn the whole place to the ground. I think I will need a couple matches to make sure I cover the whole campus.
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2008-06-02 23:45:06
451.   KG16
450 - that's a lot of campus to cover, but there are a lot of trees
2008-06-02 23:46:44
452.   KG16
451 - and parking lots, lots and lots of parking lots
2008-06-02 23:49:14
453.   Bob Timmermann
I'm still angry about sitting on a panel at a library school class to discuss business librarianship. We were all supposed to talk for 5-10 minutes to introduce ourselves and say what we do and then wait for questions.

The Cal State Fullerton librarian spoked for 30.

2008-06-02 23:52:28
454.   bhsportsguy
I'm watching John Adams again, did Franklin always dress like a Pennsylvania frontiersman.
2008-06-02 23:54:49
455.   Brendan
Well you didn't chase me away with your hatred of Notre Dame so I can take the CSUF hate in stride. especially after a big win. Lot of new buildings on the fullerton campus so try to target the older buildings only, please. Bring on the Trees!
2008-06-02 23:55:01
456.   Bob Timmermann
I'm so angry I typed "spoked."

As for Franklin, he liked to dress like a rustic as an affectation I was led to believe.

2008-06-03 00:12:24
457.   bcg60
I'm a CSUF grad, so there are a few of us rooting for the Titans.
2008-06-03 00:32:17
458.   fanerman
My brother goes to CSUF. I have no family ties to UCLA. I'm rooting for the Titans, too.
2008-06-03 00:33:35
459.   natepurcell
from LAtimes..

With the June amateur draft only three days away, the Dodgers worked out high school prospects Zach Collier of Chino Hills and Cutter Dykstra of Westlake Village at Dodger Stadium.

The Dodgers are reportedly considering taking the 17-year-old Collier, a left-handed power-hitting outfielder with speed, with their first-round pick provided the Cardinals and Washington Nationals -- also said to be interested -- don't take him first.

wow Collier is still only 17...nice.

2008-06-03 00:33:37
460.   fanerman
gah underdog, the day I remember to try out the greencine promo is the day that the website seems to be down =(.
2008-06-03 00:41:31
461.   fanerman
460 Okay it's working now. Woohoo!
2008-06-03 00:44:00
462.   CanuckDodger
459 -- Cutter Dykstra! I had marked him down as the guy I want us to take with our 3rd round pick. And after I had listed Collier among my top three choices for our 1st rounder. I love how White and I have very similar tastes in young talent.
2008-06-03 00:44:40
463.   Bob Timmermann
Normally, I would just blow off UCLA's loss to CSUF and say no hard feelings. But I think I am just going to nurse this grudge for the rest of my life and instruct my heirs to continue it after my passing.

Check my gravestone for further begrudgment.

I'm going to forget that I ever cheered Tim Wallach when he was on the Dodgers.

2008-06-03 00:45:53
464.   fanerman
463 Are you gonna have a really big gravestone to list all of your grudges? You seem to be accumulating them at a rapid pace.
2008-06-03 00:53:00
465.   Bob Timmermann
It will be obelisk about 40 feet high.
2008-06-03 01:15:00
466.   Mike De Leon
303. That's what made/makes the deals for JP and AJ so much worse. Kemp played CF and RF in AA and did well at both, there was no need to bring in one when he could have taken the position.
2008-06-03 01:38:13
467.   Mike De Leon
418. LaRoche wouldn't be a good at 2B too big. Dewitt on the other hand would be perfect. Too 3B is Andy's natural position, he's only got an average glove, but strong arm, so I'd be worried about making the turn for a double play.
2008-06-03 05:03:47
468.   D4P
Dodgers's Winning Percentages:

vs. Rockies: .857 (6-1)
vs. Rest: .440 (22-28)

2008-06-03 05:43:11
469.   Penarol1916
268. So what you are saying is, thank god for the unbalanced schedule.
2008-06-03 06:27:00
470.   gpellamjr
465 With small print.

My life's goal is to get a prominent place on that obelisk. If I don't, though, Bob is going on my obelisk.

2008-06-03 06:32:56
471.   Sammy Maudlin
Lowe has pitched well in every game since he was mocked on the Onion site.
2008-06-03 06:33:28
472.   Bob Hendley
"It will be obelisk about 40 feet high".

Great, so there should be room for ancillary grudges. Make way for the Virginia Cavaliers.

2008-06-03 07:16:14
473.   Daniel Zappala
I like it when Bob explains his grudges. Otherwise I would be mystified as to why CSUF was deserving of an entry on his obelisk. However, I have to wonder why he blames the whole school for the faults of one person. That seems a little unfair. Now I'm scared someone from BYU will make him mad, and there will be nothing I can do about it.
2008-06-03 07:19:29
474.   D4P
Now I'm scared someone from BYU will make him mad, and there will be nothing I can do about it

Stanford and USC are already dead to him. BYU can't be far behind.

2008-06-03 07:24:19
475.   madmac
Go Titans! Our librarian will spoked you into submission.
2008-06-03 07:28:05
476.   D4P
I like it when Bob explains his grudges

If only he'd explain his allusions.

2008-06-03 07:34:14
477.   Gen3Blue
476 At least he explains his illusions(or delusions).
2008-06-03 07:56:32
478.   Eric Stephen
Stanford and USC are already dead to him.

Is USC dead to Bob? Isn't there photographic evidence of Mr. Timmermann in a USC sweatshirt?

2008-06-03 08:01:42
479.   cargill06
umm martin to start at SS on sunday??

2008-06-03 08:10:55
480.   Eric Stephen
For those without insider access, here's an excerpt:

Russell Martin has implored Joe Torre to let him play shortstop, maybe even in next Sunday's ESPN game with the Cubs.

"It would be a dream come true," says Martin, a dream Dodger coaches have said isn't far-fetched. They've seen him take ground balls at shortstop every day. They've seen Torre use him at third, and know that, given his offense, if he weren't arguably the best catcher in the game, he'd be playing short or third.

2008-06-03 08:11:42
481.   Jacob Burch
When was the last time a player put time at SS and C in the same season?
2008-06-03 08:15:33
482.   Eric Stephen
Brad Ausmus in 2005.

2008-06-03 08:17:41
483.   LogikReader
The Cubs are on an 8 game winning streak. The Cubs playing 9 straight games against the NL West.


2008-06-03 08:22:49
484.   Jacob Burch
Darn those Ivy Leaguers ruining my fun-stat possibilities.
2008-06-03 08:25:02
485.   CodyS
If Cutter was raised by his dad and learned Lenny's ethics and character (I do not know Cutter's story at all), I do not want him anywhere near the Dodgers minor league system. He could destroy a generation.
2008-06-03 08:32:42
486.   Eric Stephen
Bill Simmons is doing his best to rekindle the flame of my hatred of the Celtics:

2008-06-03 08:34:58
487.   D4P
It has been a long time since I hated the Celtics. Not only have they been irrelevant for 20 years, but I also think it was easier to hate a bunch of ugly white guys in tight shorts.
2008-06-03 08:35:55
488.   regfairfield
480 What would make anyone think this is a good idea?
2008-06-03 08:38:23
489.   JoeyP
Dodgers must want to get David Ardoin's bat in the lineup more often....

Martin's sort of striking me as a prima donna that just wants to show off that he can play different positions. Martin at SS does not help this team.

2008-06-03 08:39:46
490.   D4P
I don't see why Martin/Ardoin is any better than Maza/Martin.
2008-06-03 08:41:46
491.   fanerman
Martin plays fantasy baseball and has himself and Brian McCann as catchers, but is stuck with Furcal on the DL at SS. It's the only logical explanation.
2008-06-03 08:42:24
492.   cargill06
491 that's almost accurate, it's joe torre's team that has that situation.
2008-06-03 08:42:36
493.   Eric Stephen
Yeah, I'd rather have LaRoche at SS. No since in plugging one hole (badly) by creating another.
2008-06-03 08:47:03
494.   overkill94
I don't see why people get bent out of shape when we plug Martin in at different positions. Every game where he doesn't play catcher keeps him more fresh for the end of the season and it's not like we're getting any production from SS right now anyway. As long as his defense is competent then I don't see how this is a bad thing.
2008-06-03 08:48:07
495.   cargill06
maybe thinking a few years down the road...
1b- loney
2b- laroche
ss- martin
3b- dewitt
c- may
2008-06-03 08:53:44
496.   overkill94
495 It would have to be quite a few years down the road. We need to keep Martin as the primary catcher for as long as possible.
2008-06-03 08:55:30
497.   adrian beltre
i like playing him at 3rd or even short to keep him fresh. how far off is may?
2008-06-03 09:00:22
498.   underdog
Did GC work for ya, fanerman?

483 The Cubs have my permission to continue their winning streak until Thursday. Then it ends.

2008-06-03 09:00:27
499.   Daniel Zappala
How does Xavier Paul rank as a prospect these days?
2008-06-03 09:01:27
500.   Bob Timmermann
May is about 12 months away.
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2008-06-03 09:01:45
501.   Eric Stephen
I guess you're right. I kind of had this fear it would lead to more experimentation, and thus more Ardoin/Bennett in the lineup. But even with Martin playing 3B so far this season, the backup catchers have only started 8 of 57 games. That tranlates into 23 backup starts for the whole season, which is more than reasonable to me.
2008-06-03 09:02:05
502.   Bob Timmermann
Actually, May is 11 months away. I spoked too soon.
2008-06-03 09:02:23
503.   Eric Stephen
I almost went for that joke but I pulled back.
2008-06-03 09:03:47
504.   Daniel Zappala
486 He's making me think that maybe it's time that the Vikings moved to LA. It worked out well for the Lakers ...
2008-06-03 09:04:08
505.   regfairfield
494 We need to find out what Hu can do within the next four months. We're already wasting time by blocking him with Maza, now we're blocking him with Ardoin too.
2008-06-03 09:08:46
506.   JoeyP
Every game where he doesn't play catcher keeps him more fresh for the end of the season

I'd think every game Martin doesnt play period would keep him more fresh.

Unfortunately, I think he's played in just about every game.

2008-06-03 09:09:01
507.   Jon Weisman
Hi. Martin is not going to be a regular shortstop. And Hu's near-term destiny is Las Vegas. Why can't we just enjoy the idea of a catcher playing shortstop? It's not as if Martin became our regular third baseman.
2008-06-03 09:10:08
508.   overkill94
505 I don't think Martin getting the rare start at SS has anything to do with Hu. These experimentations have hardly anything to do with the players Martin is replacing, it's just a more creative way to give him a day off from catching.
2008-06-03 09:12:03
509.   overkill94
506 What would you rather have:

a) 130 games at catcher, 20 games at other

b) 145 games at catcher

2008-06-03 09:12:24
510.   underdog
507 - I agree Jon! As well, we should enjoy last night, a game he didn't play at all, and they won! That's gotta be a rare occurrence.
2008-06-03 09:14:23
511.   regfairfield
I don't know enough about these thing to say for sure, but is it enough rest if he plays short? He still has to get into a crouched position every pitch, which is what does the most wear and tear.
2008-06-03 09:14:49
512.   Jacob Burch
Along enjoyable ways for the legend of the Golden God to continue.

I said something similar yesterday, but I am fully blaming Bob for ending my "pretending UCLA baseball doesn't exist" streak.

2008-06-03 09:16:05
513.   JoeyP
Probably B.

Martin is most valuable playing catcher. So I'd want him catching as many games as possible while still getting real off-days (the kind where he rests and doesnt play).

2008-06-03 09:17:48
514.   overkill94
511 It's the squatting that is the most taxing. There's a reason catchers are the ones who have the most knee problems late in their careers.
2008-06-03 09:19:43
515.   old dodger fan
I am hoping being home and playing the Rockies will begin a turnaround for Penny who has been simply awful in his last 6 starts (ERA 8.81).

If he continues to fare poorly how long does Torre stick with him? How many here are ready to move Kuo into a SP role?

2008-06-03 09:21:38
516.   overkill94
513 It all depends on who is being replaced. Let's assume for now that Furcal is healthy and DeWitt is the starting 3B. If either of those guys needs a day off, who would be replacing them? Right now I would assume it would be Maza for both. Would you rather have Ardoin/Martin or Martin/Maza? It's probably about a push, plus Martin is inflicting less wear and tear on his body.

Remember that this would be a rare occurrance and guys like Furcal and DeWitt need their own days off once in a while too.

2008-06-03 09:23:12
517.   regfairfield
514 Right, and while he doesn't have to go down as far, he's still putting pressure on the same muscles.

515 Billingsley was pretty terrible after his first six starts. You can't just yank your ace out of the rotation when he hits a rough patch.

2008-06-03 09:24:22
518.   overkill94
I'd also like to point out that this whole discussion is all a year too late since we actually had a decent back-up catcher last year who could have used the extra playing time.
2008-06-03 09:25:39
519.   cargill06
hooray for matt kemp turning on a couple balls last night, and still driving one in the RCF gap
2008-06-03 09:25:50
520.   fanerman
As long as Martin's SS/3B/2B/1B/LF/RF/CF/P experiments don't interrupt or replace his normal catcher days off, then I'll enjoy the novelty of it.
2008-06-03 09:26:57
521.   overkill94
517 Ummm, no. Shortstops mostly just bend at the waist in anticipation of a pitch and react from there. Catchers have to be in a crouch long before the pitch comes and longer after the pitch than any other player on the diamond.
2008-06-03 09:28:43
522.   regfairfield
521 If you aren't on your heels, you should be in more of a squat position which places pressure on the knees and the quads. Granted, it's for much less time than a catcher, but it's still a similar position.
2008-06-03 09:29:51
523.   still bevens
517 But Bills had decent enough peripherals - striking out a ton of guys but still blowing games in the end. Penny doesn't strike out anyone anymore.
2008-06-03 09:30:18
524.   overkill94
This Italian cable only has a handful of English-language channels and one plays nothing but movies...raaaandom movies. Right now there's some weird movie about a bunch of Polynesian folk, one scene consisting of them brawling with a bunch of ghetto white folk. I'd try to look it up on IMDB but I don't recognize one actor in the movie.
2008-06-03 09:31:37
525.   D4P
Martin is more likely to get hurt playing 3B/SS than sitting on the bench.

If Martin gets hurt, we're left with Ardoin/Bennett, which would make us miss Ross/Mayne.

2008-06-03 09:34:01
526.   overkill94
522 Are you serious? How could you have any range if you were in any sort of squatting position? The normal approach is slightly bent knees, leaning forward, on your toes. Not nearly as taxing as anything approaching a crouch.
2008-06-03 09:34:40
527.   overkill94
525 And he's more prone to get hurt catching than playing 3B/SS
2008-06-03 09:36:27
528.   D4P
If Martin's offense is so important that we don't want him catching, put him in LF and be done with it.
2008-06-03 09:37:58
529.   overkill94
524 For those on the edge of your seat, the movie just ended and I was able to figure out that the movie was called Sione's Wedding and the characters are Samoan. Does that count as Polynesian?
2008-06-03 09:38:24
530.   regfairfield
526 You're right, I was being dumb.
2008-06-03 09:38:33
531.   Bob Timmermann
Since Martin plays catcher, he probably is drawn to positions where there is more to do, such as shortstop. The outfield would likely bore him to death.
2008-06-03 09:38:54
532.   MC Safety
James "Lights Out" McDonald. James Toney officially got punk'd for his nickname.
2008-06-03 09:39:38
533.   overkill94
528 Permanently?
2008-06-03 09:39:49
534.   Bob Timmermann
Samoans are Polynesian. Or in Census Bureau terms "Pacific Islanders."
2008-06-03 09:41:04
535.   madmac
My apologies if this has already been posted, but I rushed for time and wanted to share real quick. From Ken Rosenthal today:

Dodgers' Ethier: The new O'Neill?"Almost exact," Dodgers bullpen catcher Mike Borzello says with a chuckle when comparing the emotional makeups of Dodgers right fielder Andre Ethier and the retired Paul O'Neill.Borzello, who was with the Yankees for Joe Torre's entire 12-year managerial tenure, notes that Ethier will walk slowly back to the dugout just like O'Neill did after making an out, staring blankly into the crowd.Upon returning to the outfield, Ethier will practice his swing and continue screaming at himself even after there are two outs, also like you-know-who. But the biggest similarity, Borzello says, comes in Ethier's reactions to hard lineouts.Borzello says he can tell what Ethier is thinking: "I did everything right. I'm still out. And I don't want to hear, 'Good swing.'"When especially agitated, Ethier will break helmets with his hands. Dodgers clubhouse manager Mitch Poole has taken to writing inspirational sayings inside Ethier's helmets in an attempt to dissuade him from causing further damage.

2008-06-03 09:41:10
536.   fanerman
The promo code still works. BTW, I'm sending you an email asking you about greencine and why I should use it.
2008-06-03 09:41:59
537.   tjdub
My take on the Martin at SS possibility -- It's not likely to hurt the team or any individual. And it's kind of fun. So why not?
2008-06-03 09:46:27
538.   overkill94
530 I wouldn't go with dumb per se ;)

I just don't think people realize how much of a difference there is from catcher to any other position on the diamond. People don't consider playing 3B a day off, but it's at least 1/2 a day off compared to playing catcher.

2008-06-03 09:48:22
539.   regfairfield
538 Thing is I played catcher for several years, I should know the difference.
2008-06-03 10:02:13
540.   OhioBlues12
535 - I have always thought Ethier reminded me of Paul O'neil but more from a purely baseball talent perspective, lefty hitter that will likely hit for a high average with some power. He just struck me as a very comparable player to O'neil. I had no idea about each's various idiosynchrosis (sp?) which would make them even more similar. If Ethier can put up some years like O'neil then he would be a very valuable player for this team.

Also, did anyone notice that Pierre got in on the "jump bump" with Kemp and Ethier at the end of the game. I hadn't seen that before, I am glad they are letting him in their reindeer games.

2008-06-03 10:03:51
541.   Bob Timmermann
Pierre has been doing the jump bump all season as I recall.
2008-06-03 10:11:37
542.   Van Lingle Mungo
Since Martin's first game in '06. The Dodgers are 10-32 when he is not in the starting lineup. They are 3-1 this year when he starts at 3rd.
2008-06-03 10:16:18
543.   Eric Stephen
Ethier can't be like Paul O'Neill. I don't absolutely loathe Ethier.
2008-06-03 10:17:44
544.   MC Safety
539 My catching career came to a screeching halt freshman year. All it took was one bullpen session with Josh Alliston (former Dirtbag and Brewers prospect). My little freshman body was just not ready for that heat.

And I was a late bloomer, too, so leave me alone!

2008-06-03 10:20:27
545.   OhioBlues12
543 - Does O'neill have some particular loatesome quality?
2008-06-03 10:21:57
546.   regfairfield
Ask LaTroy Hawkins.
2008-06-03 10:23:17
547.   Daniel Zappala
When I was in Little League, the coach turned me into a backup catcher because he said I had a perfect throwing motion. I now realize it was an excuse to distract me from the uncomfortable realization that I wasn't getting much playing time any more. Despite being one of the better-fielding shortstops, I couldn't hit a lick. I was way worse than Juan Pierre.
2008-06-03 10:26:35
548.   overkill94
543 Even after his acting job on Seinfeld?
2008-06-03 10:27:02
549.   Van Lingle Mungo
545 I guess you don't get the YES network where you live.
2008-06-03 10:27:45
550.   Bob Timmermann
"Anyone speaking ill of Paul O'Neill while in New York, spends a night in the box."
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2008-06-03 10:30:09
551.   bhsportsguy
Gammons just said on Steiner's XM Radio show that he is trying to get Torre to play Martin at SS on Sunday night's game.

Also, Gammons sadi he thinks DeWitt should play 2B so Andy LaRoche can play 3B.

2008-06-03 10:30:28
552.   old dodger fan
472 Maybe your grudge had an effect. Ryan Zimmerman (ex-UVA Cavalier) just went on the DL.
2008-06-03 10:35:26
553.   scareduck
535 - Inspirational messages including wisdom like, "$1,000 fine for intentionally breaking equipment on the third offense."
2008-06-03 10:35:48
554.   Disabled List
Check out this jaw-dropper of a quote from our PVL-lovin' GM:

"The young player has become more valuable than ever," says Dodgers GM Ned Colletti. "When [free agency] gets to the point where you have to think about spending X millions of dollars for some pitcher with a 52-71 lifetime record, clubs started thinking, Hey, why not give one of our young kids a chance?"

It's in Verducci's column on the MLB draft.

2008-06-03 10:38:43
555.   Daniel Zappala
554 I think it is a misnomer to say that Colletti is a "PVL-loving" GM.
2008-06-03 10:40:28
556.   Bob Timmermann
I've exercised my franchise and I will be up late to see if I have to buy 100 Juan Pierre jerseys.

Actually, I think I'll know the answer around 10 pm.

2008-06-03 10:40:59
557.   Jon Weisman
I can't believe Pink's made the LA Magazine Final Four.
2008-06-03 10:44:00
558.   Bob Timmermann
I have never eaten at Pink's. However, I've experienced weather.
2008-06-03 10:44:30
559.   old dodger fan
554 I think having over $50 million either on the DL or DFA'd it has to effect your thinking.
2008-06-03 10:44:30
560.   KG16
When especially agitated, Ethier will break helmets with his hands.

I knew there was a reason why I liked Andre Ethier so much.

Someone needs to pass this on to the Bald One so he can see the team once again has Heart & Soul.

2008-06-03 10:46:04
561.   KG16
556 - which way did you exercise your franchise? I need to stack the deck accordingly.
2008-06-03 10:48:43
562.   Bob Timmermann
It's a secret ballot. My motivation for voting was purely to make sure I don't have to buy 100 Juan Pierre jerseys.

I really wish I could have been asked for my opinion in an exit poll.

2008-06-03 10:50:09
563.   adrian beltre
carneys is way better than pinks and andre ethier is way better than i previously thought before reading that
2008-06-03 10:52:48
564.   goofus
Did anyone toss in the possibility of Martin playing second base on Kent's days off? To me third doesn't make any sense since DeWitt is doing well and LaRoche is standing in line; Shortstop is viable now while Furcal is out but has no long term implications. When Kent leaves at the end of this season, if Martin has shown any skill at second, perhaps we could trade some of our excess talent for a good everyday catcher. Martin would be the once a week backup catcher, thereby opening up an additional roster spot for another pitcher or infielder. I really like this plan.
2008-06-03 10:54:38
565.   Jacob L
A friend/co-worker is running for Neighborhood Council in Hollywood. I actually urged her to raise controversial issues, including - Pinks: not really very good.
2008-06-03 10:55:23
566.   overkill94
Whoa whoa whoa, since when was Joe Beimel the fans' vote bobblehead? Who the heck were the other options? Did Troy from WV vote 1,000,000 times or what?
2008-06-03 10:56:35
567.   goofus
Meant to say Martin would be the regular second baseman next year. Worked for Craig Biggio.
2008-06-03 10:57:42
568.   overkill94
564 No no no no no no no no

Never move a stud catcher full-time unless he can longer field the position competently

2008-06-03 10:58:51
569.   fanerman
567 And who would you consider a "good everyday catcher"?

LaRoche-Dewitt-Martin will likely be better than DeWitt-Martin-catcher or LaRoche-Martin-catcher (assuming one of LaRoche or Dewitt can play 2B yada yada yada).

2008-06-03 11:00:07
570.   D4P
Maybe Martin should get a shot at the starting rotation. He could catch 4 of 5 games, and then get spend his day off on the mound. At the very least, he should be out there throwing BP.
2008-06-03 11:00:12
571.   MC Safety
I used to work right across the street from Pink's at the old Bali Hardwood furniture store next to Aaron Brothers. We used to wait it out and go when the line was mostly dead, though. It's not really worth the line, imo.

Now I want a bacon chili dog.

2008-06-03 11:01:37
572.   Eric Stephen
some pitcher with a 52-71 lifetime record

I would also not want to spend millions on Ray Burris, especially since this is his age 57 season.

2008-06-03 11:03:21
573.   old dodger fan
Why not just let Martin play all 9 positions in one game. Bert Campaneris did it.
2008-06-03 11:05:26
574.   BlueCrew Bruin
571 Mmmm...bacon. This has got to be the invention of the century so far:

2008-06-03 11:06:32
575.   Reddog
I was very happy to see Kemp hit a deep home run to left last night. I was beginning to think he had lost the ability to do that. Maybe he can go on a home run tear now and hit ten in the next week.
2008-06-03 11:08:58
576.   underdog
"Exercised my franchise"? Is that what they call it nowadays?
2008-06-03 11:09:46
577.   goofus
Alright, where's he going to play in the infield on his "day off" when Furcal gets back? Who do you sit, DeWitt, Furcal, or Loney? When Kent sits we get Hu or Maza; I'd rather have Martin. Other catchers? I didn't say they would come cheap or easy. But we could try for that kid in Minnesota, the one we just saw in Chicago, the one we saw last night, Torealba, Didn't Atlanta have a good young catcher they weren't using? The Marlins love to trade, maybe we could get Navarro back from them.
2008-06-03 11:11:59
578.   fanerman
577 He could, you know, take a real day off and get some real rest.
2008-06-03 11:12:04
579.   D4P
Who do you sit, DeWitt, Furcal, or Loney?

Don't forget "Soon to be acquired Veteran Utility Infielder".

2008-06-03 11:12:35
580.   fanerman
574 Wow. I need one of those. Two of those.
2008-06-03 11:14:00
581.   Eric Stephen
Didn't Atlanta have a good young catcher they weren't using?

He was traded to Texas for Teixeira last year.

The Marlins love to trade, maybe we could get Navarro back from them

Navarro is the starting catcher for the 1st place club in the AL East, the Rays, and performing well. Pretty sure he won't be traded.

2008-06-03 11:14:14
582.   ToyCannon
Craig Biggios HOF career at 2nd base would beg to differ with your statement. If the Astro's had kept him as a catcher he would have had a solid career and probably would have been done by 30. Instead they got much more value from Biggio by moving him to 2nd.

If the Dodgers have no plan on keeping Martin beyond his arbitration years then keeping Martin as a catcher during his prime makes sense but if they sign him to a long term deal, would he be more valuable as a 2nd baseman or as a catcher? Hard to say but I don't think it is a no-brainer that he stay at catcher. The idea should at least be entertained if he can play the position which he looks like he could.

Everyday catchers like Martin wear out fast. Their best years will be before they are 28. You need to move him before his legs are shot. I love him as a catcher, but I think I would also love him as a 2nd baseman. Just think what the options would have been if Mr. Navarro was still in the equation.

2008-06-03 11:14:37
583.   jasonungar07
Maybe Martin can be the GM?
2008-06-03 11:15:41
584.   ToyCannon
Joe Torre more then anyone knows how moving from the backstop to a positional position changed his career.
2008-06-03 11:17:05
585.   Eric Stephen
Why not. The sports world is waiting for the first ever player/GM. Although wasn't Mario Lemeiux a player/owner?
2008-06-03 11:18:21
586.   Daniel Zappala
Martin can just pull a Bugs Bunny and play all nine positions simultaneously.
2008-06-03 11:18:35
587.   ToyCannon
Texas is loaded with good young catching. They easily have the deepest depth of any major league team at that position.
Then again they have to because so many good young catchering prospect don't seem to make the transition. Or maybe that is just Rockie catching prospects that have me jaded.
2008-06-03 11:18:35
588.   fanerman
583 Russell Martin should become commissioner of baseball. Now.
2008-06-03 11:21:15
589.   Eric Stephen
Wasn't Torre as a defensive catcher regarded as...a good hitter? I think Martin is better defensively behind the plate (current bouncy throws included) than Torre ever was. Although Torre did also win a Gold Glove at age 24, so who knows.
2008-06-03 11:21:36
590.   D4P
The fun thing about all this is that if Martin experiences an injury/decline in performance in the second half of the season, we'll get to debate whether "over-use" was a contributing factor.
2008-06-03 11:22:02
591.   Bob Timmermann
Player/GMs were not uncommon in the 19th century, although the title General Manager wasn't used.

If you want Russell Martin to be like Cap Anson, then you he will have to yell at Joe Torre to get himself taken off the field.

2008-06-03 11:22:26
592.   Bluebleeder87
Steiner is pushing it with this Martin at short shtick, seriously.
2008-06-03 11:22:50
593.   regfairfield
587 Iannetta's doing pretty good this year.

That LA Magazine thing is the one where Vinny got bounced in the first round by the library, right?

2008-06-03 11:24:29
594.   Daniel Zappala
587 Catchering. I like it.
2008-06-03 11:26:23
595.   MC Safety
574 Wow.
2008-06-03 11:28:41
596.   Reddog
I wonder if we could trade Colletti to another team for a backup GM and future considerations? Or maybe a 4th round draft choice.
2008-06-03 11:28:43
597.   Bob Timmermann
In the words of Daffy Duck, "Ahh, pronoun trouble."
2008-06-03 11:28:45
598.   underdog
Wait, we're still discussing Martin playing the infield once in awhile? {said in Irish accent} C'mon people, move it along here, nothing more ta see, move it along.

But, hey, speaking of Russell, if we want him to make the all-star game, better start your ballot box stuffing now. Since Cubs fans obviously already are.

2008-06-03 11:29:20
599.   underdog
597 Do you want to shoot him now or wait 'til you get home?
2008-06-03 11:29:39
600.   ToyCannon
True, but Martin is as athletic a catcher as I've seen since Biggio broke in.
Biggio had a much smaller build and was faster and I have no idea if Martin could even play 2nd base. It is obvious he could play 3rd base but that does not help this team any.
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2008-06-03 11:31:48
601.   ToyCannon
Hard to go wrong with the Cub vote. Their guy is having one heck of a season and career upto now.
2008-06-03 11:32:03
602.   Van Lingle Mungo
We should just trade Martin for Kevin Brown so that we don't have to think about this anymore.
2008-06-03 11:32:28
603.   Daniel Zappala
How fun would it be to illustrate the farce of the All Star game by getting JP elected? 10 million people in LA County, times 25 votes a day is a lot of votes.
2008-06-03 11:32:50
604.   Bluebleeder87
I don't mind Russel playing 3rd every now & again & like TC says I too would like Russell playing catcher until he turns 28 THEN maybe we'll talk about 2nd base
2008-06-03 11:33:37
605.   Van Lingle Mungo
I mean Gary Sheffield. Oops.
2008-06-03 11:37:32
606.   fanerman
This discussion would have made a lot more sense last year. I suppose it'd be nice to know if Martin can play SS or 2B (2B seems preferable to SS, clearly). I don't think moving him permanently should be considered unless we had a good enough catcher available (Lucas May, Carlos Santana?).
2008-06-03 11:37:53
607.   Eric Stephen
551 ,592
Is Steiner pushing for the RuSS move or was it Gammons, on Steiner's show?
2008-06-03 11:39:47
608.   Eric Stephen
By the way, I'm patenting RuSS™.
2008-06-03 11:45:20
609.   overkill94
2008-06-03 11:46:53
610.   underdog
601 He is indeed. Can't fault him, or Martin or McCann. All deserving. Still, it's hard to believe that many people outside of Chicago and outside of baseball nerdom know of Soto yet. But, no, can't fault the choice if it's him.
2008-06-03 11:47:01
611.   delias man
Does anybody know what channel this alleged game 6 is on tomorrow?
2008-06-03 11:48:23
612.   Eric Stephen
2008-06-03 11:49:08
613.   MC Safety
608 Viva La RuSSelucion!


2008-06-03 11:49:31
614.   underdog
The Bison doesn't deserve to be one of the starting 3 and since he's not on the ballot anyway, so to be voted in everyone has to write him in, but he could still get picked as a reserve, especially if he goes on a tear. That would be neat.
2008-06-03 11:53:18
615.   Eric Stephen
The Bison doesn't deserve to be one of the starting 3 and since he's not on the ballot anyway

I vehemently disagree with that premise, unless you were joking.

2008-06-03 11:54:03
616.   GMac In The 909
586 Something tells me Russell would come up short in giving The Greatest Banned Player Ever™ a run for his money:

2008-06-03 12:04:10
617.   underdog
615 I meant one of the starting three All-Star outfielders, not one of the Dodgers starting three. The latter would be a delirious joke. (Not that I wouldn't love to see him starting in the AS game.) Although there aren't a ton of strong NL outfielders so far this season... hm...

Who would you guys pick as the top three NL OF'ers right now?

Don't forget McClouth!

2008-06-03 12:04:44
618.   old dodger fan
614 Does "deserving" mean the best player or is it the one the most fans want to see play? The top 3 OF'ers in the NL voting have OPS+ of 119; 118 and 81 right now. Kemp is 115 and Ethier is 110.

Apparently the players people want to see are Soriano, Fukudome and Jr.

Kemp needs a better PR guy.

2008-06-03 12:05:45
619.   Bob Timmermann
The Ghost of J.D. Cannon demands "McLOUTH!"
2008-06-03 12:08:14
620.   underdog
619 - "Chief!?" "McClouth!?"

618 - Yah, and not that Fukudome and Soriano aren't great players, but again that points to my suspicions about how many Cubs fans are voting... Yeah, I was thinking "best player", not fan favorites.

2008-06-03 12:09:08
621.   kinbote
High comment numbers make me woozy.

I've been studying the upcoming draft a bit. I really like Collier, but Melville would be hard to pass up if he's there. White likes projectable frames almost as much as he likes clean arm actions, polished secondary pitches, and championship makeups. (Fun game: count the scouting buzzwords!)

Just, please no more bloodline picks. Aside from DeJesus, those haven't panned out that well.

2008-06-03 12:09:41
622.   cargill06
617 berkman, pat the bat, and mclouth

although you can't discount all the love fukedome will get.

2008-06-03 12:09:44
623.   cargill06
617 berkman, pat the bat, and mclouth

although you can't discount all the love fukedome will get.

2008-06-03 12:12:49
624.   Andrew Shimmin
Martin at short would be fun, so I'm in favor of it. For one game. And I think it's pernicious to say that he's being a dilettante about it; was it Phil Simms who used to practice kicking field goals before every game, and beg his coach(es) for the chance to do it in a real game? I don't care about football, but I always wished he'd get a chance.

I'm not Bob: I embrace fun. And awesomeness.

2008-06-03 12:13:00
625.   Eric Stephen
underdog, I only took offense to the premise that because Kemp wasn't listed he didn't deserve to start in the AS game.

Would you say Kemp deserved to start if he had the best numbers of any OF?

2008-06-03 12:13:45
626.   Eric Stephen
Berkman's a 1B.
2008-06-03 12:13:59
627.   Eric Stephen
Berkman's a 1B.
2008-06-03 12:14:21
628.   underdog
Berkman would seem a no-brainer. I'd forgotten he was eligible as an outfielder even though he's basically only playing first these days (no?)
Also under consideration, besides Burrell and McClouth: Braun, Beltran, Lee, The Bison, Soriano, Ludwick...
2008-06-03 12:14:23
629.   cargill06
umm, oh ya.
2008-06-03 12:15:00
630.   Bob Timmermann
I think it was Doug Flutie who practiced kicking. His last play in the NFL was a dropkick extra point.
2008-06-03 12:15:06
631.   kinbote
Waitaminute--Why doesn't Mayo have Melville going in the first round in his latest mock draft? Martin & Odorizzi seem to have passed him by.

FWIW, I want Collier. He's far more athletic than I originally thought. I think this might be the year White takes a bat with the first pick.

2008-06-03 12:15:09
632.   LogikReader
I hope the Bison can save my fantasy team. My big Utility player, David Ortiz, is on the shelf for a looooooong, long time.
2008-06-03 12:15:45
633.   Andrew Shimmin
Not Simms; Jim McMahon. I knew it was somebody in Tecmo Bowl.
2008-06-03 12:16:27
634.   Andrew Shimmin
630- Flutie actually did it, but McMahon was the guy I was thinking of--the one who never got the chance. What might have been. . .
2008-06-03 12:16:31
635.   underdog
625 - Sorry, heh, that was poorly written. I think those are two separate concepts, whether he deserves to start is one thing. The fact that he's not on the ballot is another, but yah, even if he deserved to start that's a tough thing to overcome, making people write your name in. Of course I would say he would deserve to start if he had the best numbers, heck, he deserves to be mentioned with some of those other names as I posted in 628. If he continues to slug he seriously could deserve the starting nod. Right now, I just don't think he does is all.
2008-06-03 12:18:29
636.   Eric Stephen
Cool. Consider my fatwa against you voided. :)
2008-06-03 12:18:57
637.   Kevin Lewis
Is the Lost chat basically done? Should I post thoughts here?
2008-06-03 12:19:01
638.   underdog
Btw, here are outfielders (or players also listed as outfielders - it includes Berkman) in the majors ranked by OPS:

2008-06-03 12:19:53
639.   underdog
636 - Good, me and my pal Salman will come out of the bunker now. ;-)
2008-06-03 12:21:24
640.   Eric Stephen
Is Padma there too? That is Rushdie's greatest tragedy.
2008-06-03 12:23:38
641.   delias man
612 thanks, my guide must not have updated yet.
2008-06-03 12:25:05
642.   old dodger fan
Ludwick OPS+174; AS Balloting 14th
McLouth OPS+161; AS Balloting 11th
Burrell OPS+157; AS Balloting 6th

Kemp is having a nice year at OPS+115 but these guys deserve your vote more. Doesn't look like any of them will start though.

2008-06-03 12:27:16
643.   regfairfield
I have no desire to see Ryan Ludwick play baseball. If I didn't have an irrational love for Nate McLouth, I wouldn't care too much about him either.
2008-06-03 12:27:17
644.   Linkmeister
underdog @ 610 writes "Can't fault him, or Martin or McCann"

Wait. Les McCann plays catcher? Not bad for a 75-year-old piano player. I wonder if he played with Russell's namesake.

2008-06-03 12:31:34
645.   bulldog23
The Cardinals have a catcher that will be trade bait soon. Memphis (AAA) catcher Bryan Anderson is improving defensively, but he's shown a good bat. He's a LH hitter that has a combined average of .370 with 2 HRs and an OPS of .900 between AA and AAA. He's just 21. The Cardinals are committed to Molina, though, as their future catcher.

He hit very well to start the year last year, but he didn't get many days off at all during the brutal heat of last summer, and he wilted under the heat/number of games catching in his longest season. He still hit right at .300 with 6 HRs.

IIRC, Anderson started for Team USA in the Futures game last year. The Cardinals need middle IF help more than anything, although I'm sure they'd love to get DeWitt back to Missouri.

2008-06-03 12:32:26
646.   underdog
644 - I was thinking of Chuck McCann actually. Funstuff.
2008-06-03 12:33:32
647.   underdog
645 - The Dodgers don't need more catching prospects, particularly not to be just a seldom-used backup this season. They have Lucas May and Carlos Santana, for starters (as it were).
2008-06-03 12:36:35
648.   Linkmeister
646 Compared to what? ;)
2008-06-03 12:37:07
649.   bulldog23
647 - Good points. I guess I was thinking of post-2008. Personally, I'm not a big fan of May, but even then, I think Anderson will be better than those two. I'm sure there are no long-term plans of moving Martin, yet, anyway.
2008-06-03 12:37:37
650.   regfairfield
647 Anderson is better than both of them.

Martin to second, Anderson at catcher, DeWitt or LaRoche traded for Anderson does seem interesting.

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2008-06-03 12:42:39
651.   MC Safety
I beleieve my fantasy team in xeifrank's h2h league owes an AS vote to Nate McLouth.

The Mothers of Invention would like to thank you, Nate McLouth, for helping it's Manager better deal with C.C. Sabathia's putrid start. Keep up the good work.

2008-06-03 12:44:48
652.   regfairfield
I have McLouth on every fantasy team I own.

I'm feeling pretty proud of myself.

2008-06-03 12:45:33
653.   MC Safety
Whoops. Believe.
2008-06-03 12:48:12
654.   HoodedMafia
Bryan Anderson can flat out rake. I played ball with him growing up and he is a hitter that just has "it". If they ever do move Russ, I would love for Anderson to be our catcher.
2008-06-03 12:48:17
655.   Bob Timmermann
Rats, one of the 11-year olds has McLouth in my league.

But I'm still in second place. I need pitchers who will get wins.

2008-06-03 12:50:38
656.   D4P
Why don't you get picked on by someone your own size...?
2008-06-03 12:51:22
657.   Bob Timmermann
The kid with McLouth is in first place!

I am ahead of my brother and Sam DC.

2008-06-03 12:57:26
658.   MC Safety
652 The funniest part is...I grabbed him for his SB's, and he's basically done nothing in that department.
2008-06-03 12:57:51
659.   regfairfield
Then again, why screw around with Anderson unless he's a better hitter than LaRoche.
2008-06-03 12:59:27
660.   68elcamino427
Went to the game last night. My favorite Dodger-The Bison-The Robot Made of Nails-Matt Kemp, gives us a peek at what the future holds. Hit the wall in left center, hit the wall in right center, hit one into the bull pen. Kemp's on fire the last two games.
2008-06-03 12:59:36
661.   D4P
I need pitchers who will get wins

Makes you wonder what we're teaching our (fantasy baseball playing) kids these days.

Rarely is the question asked, "Is our children learning?"

2008-06-03 13:02:02
662.   LoneStar7
anyone participating in the joe beimel chat later this afternoon haha?
2008-06-03 13:02:09
663.   fanerman
661 Often is the question asked, "Are our children learning?"
2008-06-03 13:07:54
664.   MC Safety
660 The Bison told Torre he's getting power whether he likes it or not.
2008-06-03 13:09:41
665.   Jacob Burch
663 The above is a G W Bush quote, I believe.
2008-06-03 13:12:13
666.   Eric Stephen
From Jack Etkin of the Rocky Mountain News yesterday:

>>Triple-A Colorado Springs infielder Juan Castro on Saturday reaggravated the left hamstring injury that sidelined him 17 days last month. The Rockies signed Castro, who turns 36 on June 20, with the intention of having him play about two weeks for the Sky Sox and then coming back to the big leagues. But Castro's return has again been delayed.<<

2008-06-03 13:14:28
667.   fanerman
665 (sigh). Note to self: never post when in snarky mood.
2008-06-03 13:14:48
668.   Eric Stephen
I'm surprised the state of CA hasn't found a way to incorporate MLB players into their "Flex Your Power" ads.
2008-06-03 13:15:34
669.   sweepstakes
What's the news on Esteban Loaiza since he's been DFA'd
2008-06-03 13:16:15
670.   Bluebleeder87
662 I'd love to but can't, I'm sure Troy will make an apperance (sp?) under an assumed name
2008-06-03 13:18:23
671.   silverwidow
669 He should be released tomorrow.
2008-06-03 13:18:37
672.   Eric Stephen
I believe today is the day the Dodgers must release Loaiza (he was DFA'd on May 24; the club has 10 days to release or trade him) in the likely event that no trade suitors could be found.
2008-06-03 13:19:03
673.   kinbote
640 Padma Thoughts would definitely not be SFW.
2008-06-03 13:26:51
674.   MC Safety
The Useless Poll on Dodger Blues is hilarious.
2008-06-03 13:30:39
675.   MC Safety
674 Doh! I didn't realize they kept changing!
2008-06-03 13:33:46
676.   kinbote
674 Vote Mark Sweeney All-Star is also pretty good. His average really jumped with that last hit.
2008-06-03 13:35:49
677.   kinbote
From Rotoworld:

Tigers designated RHP Francisco Cruceta for assignment.

Any interest? Or is the Shuey curse final?

2008-06-03 13:42:00
678.   NWdodger
I like nicknames however I would hate for this to get like MMA cage fighting where everyone has a nickname and since the good ones like "the natural" or "bad boy" are taken they are dishing out names like "muscle shark", "the carpenter", "the real one" or "the gizzard". I think a player needs to earn a nickname. Everyone knows who the Big Unit is. The Babe had a multitude of nicknames "The Great Bambino" and "The Sultan of Swat" to name a few.
2008-06-03 13:45:36
679.   Kevin Lewis

I want a league where pitchers are judged by Quality Starts and not traditional W/L

2008-06-03 13:45:38
680.   Eric Enders
So many of the best nicknames are for guys who weren't that good, though. "Wonderdog." "Dr. Strangeglove." "Death to Flying Things." You shouldn't have to be great to have a great nickname.
2008-06-03 13:46:56
681.   Eric Stephen
I would love to root for Andy "Muscle Shark" LaRoche. "The Gizzard" has a nice ring to it as well, but only old people would like it.
2008-06-03 13:47:55
682.   Eric Stephen
"Penitentiary Face" was a great one, too.
2008-06-03 13:48:42
683.   kinbote
680 On U.S.S. Mariner, they call Jose Vidro "Jive Odors"--it's an anagram thing.
2008-06-03 13:49:01
684.   regfairfield
I've always wanted the nick name "Chunk Style".
2008-06-03 13:49:55
685.   D4P
Hard to believe that the top 2 highest earning athletes are golfers. There was a time when I wouldn't have believed that possible.

Other notables in the top 50 include:

Torii Hunter
Carlos Delgado
Jason Schmidt

2008-06-03 13:50:03
686.   kinbote
678 Luis "Hissing Cockroach" Maza?
2008-06-03 13:51:35
687.   Eric Stephen
Apparently beat writers and elevators don't go together like peaches and cream. From the AZ Republic's Nick Piecoro:

The press elevator here in Milwaukee ranks among the slowest in baseball. Certainly behind Shea Stadium and Dolphin Stadium, but still up there.

2008-06-03 13:53:39
688.   D4P
Andruw "Scott Boras is my agent, but all I got is this lousy 2-year, $36 million dollar deal that's nevertheless outrageously more than I'm worth but I still feel like I should have been able to find some moronic GM out there who would give me even more, but I guess I had to settle for the Dodgers's moronic GM" Jones...?
2008-06-03 13:54:48
689.   kinbote
Darn West Coast start times. I don't have enough material to make it to lineups. Anybody got a good press elevator quotation?
2008-06-03 13:55:08
690.   Eric Stephen
My brother sent me a text message Saturday with a nickname for Broxton that can't be repeated here.
2008-06-03 13:56:28
691.   Penarol1916
685. That's just further proof that we as a society have taken a step backwards.
2008-06-03 13:58:39
692.   kinbote
688 Should we just predict it now? In 2010, San Diego will sign Andruw Jones to a one-year contract with significant incentives.
2008-06-03 14:00:59
693.   bhsportsguy
685 People who actually watch golf on TV have among the highest income of all TV viewers and there is no question that Tiger Woods endorsements have done a lot for Nike but I'm not so sure about selling Buicks.

Also, a lot of golfers replace equipment (not me) on a frequent basis, buy new shoes and lots of golf balls.

And the sponsors get a lot of face time especially on guys like Tiger and Phil.

2008-06-03 14:02:49
694.   bhsportsguy
685 I don't find it hard to believe that baseball players don't make a lot from endorsements. I can think of 2 key reasons, no product placement opportunities and no shoe deals.
2008-06-03 14:05:48
695.   Eric Enders
Wha? Baseball players have both shoe deals and copious product placement opportunities.

Batting Gloves
Catcher's chest protectors

etc etc

2008-06-03 14:06:18
696.   NWdodger
Oil Can Boyd is one of my all-time favorites. In Portland they were calling Cliff Robinson "the Human Flyrod" for a while. I don't think it stuck.
2008-06-03 14:09:12
697.   Bob Timmermann
The most notable baseball player doing endorsements now is Ryan Howard for Subway and also for Dick's Sporting Goods.

Matt Holliday showed up in the Nike Sparq training commercial that had the Saul Williams soundtrack.

2008-06-03 14:09:29
698.   LoneStar7
686 classic.
2008-06-03 14:10:39
699.   berkowit28
695. Don't forget Toast.
2008-06-03 14:13:28
700.   Bob Timmermann
And of course Derek Jeter endorses a lot of stuff but I don't pay attention to those.
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2008-06-03 14:14:28
701.   Penarol1916
695. My guess is that baseball product manufacturers have been less successful at convincing players that their is a huge differentiation in equipment. Some would say it is because people who've played baseball since they were a kid feel more secure in their performance than golfers or that people have less money to spend on baseball equipment, primarily because it is for kids and more older people with money play golf than baseball/softball.
My personal theory has to do with the fact that people who like golf are suckers with no ability to discern good from bad and look to experts to do it for them. How else can you explain that they enjoy playing and/or watching golf?
2008-06-03 14:15:47
702.   Eric Stephen
Don't forget Bronson Arroyo selling cars.

2008-06-03 14:18:26
703.   LoneStar7
notable things from that list in my opinion..

1.Jamarcus russell earning more than Tom Brady? 2.Michael Finley being that high up..
3. Furyk being the third highest paid golfer, I thought john daly made like 20 mil. in endorsements?
4. And the obvious grotesque fact that Schmitty is has stayed between 41 and 46 by doing absolutely nothing

2008-06-03 14:19:16
704.   Eric Enders
701 Another thing is that kids like wearing basketball shoes to school, but when was the last time you saw a random teenager styling a pair of baseball spikes?

Most of the baseball endorsements seem to be (a) local rather than national, or (b) limited to specialty publications like Baseball America, where you'll see a ton of players endorsing bats, etc.

2008-06-03 14:20:34
705.   Jacob L
Baseball equipment is much, much, much more standardized than golf equipment, particularly at the professional level. Imagine baseball if pitchers had the choice of a couple of dozen different types of balls. Golf equipment manufacturers are in a perpetual technological arms race that doesn't really benefit recreational players, but nevertheless the average amateur cannot resist the lure of the latest and greatest thing.
2008-06-03 14:21:57
706.   Jacob L
I seem to remember some of our favorites ballplayers appearing in youtube clips hawking aluminum bats.
2008-06-03 14:22:21
707.   LoneStar7
But I guess JD never got to cash in on this beauty of a commercial for Maxfli

sorry if that should of been tiny url'd

2008-06-03 14:26:05
708.   Andrew Shimmin
A day late, but: RIP Bo Diddley.

2008-06-03 14:28:37
709.   Indiana Jon
They need to bring back the beer commercials of the 70's. Now those were some good baseball player endorsements.
2008-06-03 14:28:53
710.   LoneStar7
I'm in the chat with Joey B...if any suggestions for a question, I wanted to ask what he was in the shot glass, but figured that would never get answered..
2008-06-03 14:31:11
711.   Jacob Burch
697 Matt Holiday would be near the top of my list for "people I wouldn't expect to be associated with Saul Williams."

Bob Timmerman, probably shortly there after.

2008-06-03 14:33:11
712.   kinbote
The vague unpleasant feeling you now have somewhere in your upper abdomen is the body's unconscious awareness that Ned Colletti is probably working the phones right now in search of a stopgap middle infielder.
2008-06-03 14:35:51
713.   Bob Timmermann
I watched a lot of the NCAA basketball tournament. The Nike commercial with Saul Williams ran during almost every timeout.
2008-06-03 14:37:19
714.   Bob Timmermann
I've got a list of demands!
2008-06-03 14:43:51
715.   bhsportsguy
705 Was it you that said something about doing some golfing recently?
2008-06-03 14:45:36
716.   Eric Stephen
How in the hell do the chats work on I'm logged in, and every time I go to the chat page there's no link to go directly into the chat itself.
2008-06-03 14:49:28
717.   kinbote
Eric "Don't forget about me--you've forgotten about me haven't you . . . hello?" Stults with a good performance today for Vegas:

2008-06-03 14:50:07
718.   LoneStar7
716 I just clicked the link on the dodgers main page, signed in, and this big message box popped up with questions popping up like once a aminute and being answered by Joe...only like 10 questions tops got answered, only lasted like 30 minutes pretty dull in my opinion
2008-06-03 14:53:31
719.   Eric Stephen
Four straight games at 2B for LaRoche.
2008-06-03 15:02:35
720.   kinbote
719 HuRoche in 2009 would be epic. So would HuWitt for that matter. HuKnows?

{exit, pursued by a bear}

2008-06-03 15:04:47
721.   Jacob L
715 Probably not. I have golfing binges when the wife and kids are otherwise disposed, which last occurred in late April. Other than that, I hardly play at all these days.
2008-06-03 15:06:28
722.   Jacob L
720 Fozzie Bear?
2008-06-03 15:09:23
723.   Jon Weisman
Tonight's lineup:

Pierre, LF
Kemp, CF
Kent, 2B
Martin, C
Loney, 1B
Young, RF
DeWitt, 3B
Hu, SS
Penny, RHP

2008-06-03 15:10:18
724.   bhsportsguy
719 There is still the problem of who will back up Furcal if and when he comes back.

If the goal is to send Hu back down AAA and bring LaRoche up, I really only see that happening if the Dodgers DFA Sweeney, option both Hu and Maza (Maza may not have any options left so you might have to waive him like Chavez and then pick him up and reassign him) and then pick up a vet who can play SS and get a hit now and then.

If I wasn't afraid Nomar would break if you played him at SS for a game, I would say do that.

Your bench would be LaRoche, Vet, Nomar, Young and catcher. If and when Jones comes back, you either lose a pitcher or see if Nomar is going back on the DL.

2008-06-03 15:12:23
725.   Jacob L
723 Please come back, Rafael!
2008-06-03 15:14:17
726.   LoneStar7
723 I know Francis is a struggling lefty but i say let ethier play..
2008-06-03 15:17:14
727.   underdog
I do like seeing Young getting more starts, no doubt. I just wish it was at the expense of Pierre, not Ethier. Ah well.
2008-06-03 15:17:17
728.   Jacob L
Ethier last 7 games - 838 OPS
Pierre last 7 game - 540 OPS
2008-06-03 15:20:05
729.   Alex41592
Pierre is 11 for 24 against Francis with 5 SB's. Ethier is 4 for 17.
2008-06-03 15:21:18
730.   underdog
729 - I saw that just now, too. That must be the main factor.

That and this odd need to have Pierre always leading off.

2008-06-03 15:22:45
731.   Alex41592
Not to mention Ethier has a horrible line against lefties this season. The only season Torre has seen.


2008-06-03 15:22:46
732.   LoneStar7
729 I know i meant instead of pee wee, but only because I know Pierre will always get the nod with furcal on the DL

Quite honestly though, Pierre has been doing his job lately...last night he was good, he's done well hitting in front of kemp

2008-06-03 15:25:21
733.   Eric Stephen
This is like one of those genie wishes that isn't worded properly.

In the offseason:
"We want Ethier to play everyday"

After seeing wish come true...
"No, wait! Not at the expense of Kemp. Kemp should play every day."

After seeing wish come true...
"No, wait! Ethier shouldn't be the one benched."

The Andruw injury buys some time...
"Pee Wee should get some starts. He's one of the 3 best hitters left in our OF."

"No wait!!! Not at the expense of Ethier."

The cosmic ballet, goes on.

2008-06-03 15:27:00
734.   Eric Stephen
last night he was good

Last night he was 1 for 5.

2008-06-03 15:31:47
735.   Eric Enders
The Young-Sweeney situation remains interesting. So far this year, Torre has used Young in such a way as to maximize his right-handed at-bats against LHPs. That's a waste, since Young hits better left-handed. But if Young is ever able to displace Sweeney as Torre's most trusted left-handed pinch hitting option, then someone will need to replace Young as the primary right-handed pinch hitter.

If you use LaRoche as the right-handed pinch hitter, you not only get the advantage of replacing Sweeney with LaRoche, but you have Young hitting more often from his better side.

2008-06-03 15:35:07
736.   Jacob L
734 Or, as we used to say (back in the day), Juan for Five.
2008-06-03 15:43:33
737.   Jon Weisman
2008-06-03 15:58:23
738.   LoneStar7
734 oh yea your right... I thought he was on base twice, I can't believe I'm starting to imagine Juan Pierre better than he is...although I think he has made a career off that

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