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Because Pat Listach Was Out of the Question ...
2008-06-06 16:28
by Jon Weisman

The Dodgers today acquired 2003 American League Rookie of the Year Angel Berroa, who has since struggled to regain that level. The cost was 21-year-old Class A shortstop Juan Rivera.

* * *

Cubs at Dodgers, 7:40 p.m.

Update: From Ken Gurnick at

Technically, Berroa was assigned to Triple-A Las Vegas, but that is procedural to avoid the club being shorthanded Friday night. He is expected to be promoted to the Dodgers as soon as Saturday, most likely with Chin-lung Hu being sent to play every day at Triple-A. ...

The acquisition of Berroa could soon be followed by a promotion of Andy LaRoche, who is adding second-base and first-base experience to his resume while at Las Vegas.

"He could be called up any time," said manager Joe Torre. "He is close."

Also in Las Vegas, reliever Yhency Brazoban was placed on the disabled list with shoulder inflammation. He missed most of the last two seasons with shoulder and elbow operations and had a 12.38 ERA in eight appearances.

And from Tony Jackson of the Daily News: Berroa is making an astonishing $4.75 million this season, but Kansas City is picking up the balance.

* * *

Tom Meagher writes about Milton Bradley, Jayson Werth and Russell Branyan at The Fifth Outfielder.

Comments (366)
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2008-06-06 18:15:52
1.   fanerman
Berroa/Kent up the middle sounds good to me.
2008-06-06 18:16:41
2.   Eric Enders
The Dodgers are sadly deluding themselves if they think Berroa will be any better than Hu would be from this point forward.

This move is not merely like putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound. It's like putting an old, worn-out band-aid with no stickum left on a gunshot wound. When you already have a newer, better band-aid in your possession.

Was this transaction supposed to make me stop banging my head against the wall?

2008-06-06 18:17:17
3.   D4P
Does this mean Maza gets sent down?
2008-06-06 18:17:28
4.   regfairfield
The sad thing is that someone is going to get DFAed because of this.
2008-06-06 18:19:49
5.   D4P
If it's Sweeney, then it's not that sad.

But why can't we just send Maza back to AAA?

2008-06-06 18:20:20
6.   regfairfield
5 Need a space on the 40 man.
2008-06-06 18:20:49
7.   regfairfield
Best case scenario is Sweeney gets DFAed, Hu goes down, LaRoche comes up with Berroa.
2008-06-06 18:21:44
8.   Icaros
Has Nomar already been put on the 60-day?
2008-06-06 18:22:33
9.   regfairfield
2008-06-06 18:24:08
10.   Eric Enders
Last night when Sweeney hit his pinch hit single that should have been a double, the Cubs announcers were commenting that he looked injured as he ran to first (and he was then pinch run for). Perhaps it's just his turn to spend a couple of months on the DL.
2008-06-06 18:24:56
11.   Eric Enders
7 Best case scenario, really, is that this whole thing is a hoax.
2008-06-06 18:25:33
12.   regfairfield
Besides that of course.
2008-06-06 18:26:05
13.   Eric Enders
You know it's a bad season when you start thinking "I really wish we had Wilson Valdez back."
2008-06-06 18:29:08
14.   Jon Weisman
13 - Valdez was just released from Korea!

Check out this from Kevin Pearson: Berroa isn't even on minimum salary ...

2008-06-06 18:31:44
15.   D4P
Berroa isn't even on minimum salary

By which you mean he's making a lot more. $4.75 million, to be exact. (Hilarious). But the Dodgers are getting some cash in the deal.

2008-06-06 18:34:41
16.   larry slimfast
It's almost as if Ned Colletti is just trying to do something to prove he's on the job. There couldn't be a more pointless acquisition than Angel Berroa... unless Hu is about to be traded. Be sure and sell low Ned. Good lord. What is going on here?
2008-06-06 18:36:33
17.   RELX
So I assume that means Berroa will be in the line-up and hitting second tonight?
2008-06-06 18:37:06
18.   LogikReader
I don't get it, I just don't get it. Is Ned literally LOOKING for the most useless player on the market to pick up? Why can't he trust his farm system? I am so sick of these transactions.
2008-06-06 18:38:31
19.   ROC
DY is hitting second, Hu hitting 8th. Martin rests.
2008-06-06 18:39:01
20.   regfairfield
18 To be fair, the next guy in line for the shortstop job was something like Rex Rundgren.
2008-06-06 18:41:53
21.   RELX
19. Hadn't seen the line-up, and besides I was trying to be snarky, as in "let's let the new guy, who sucks, bat high in the line-up."

Didn't Martin sit out Monday's game as well? Two games off in a week for him is unheard of.

2008-06-06 18:43:03
22.   Andrew Shimmin
He beat out Judy Gerut for the ROY award. Some other guys, too. . .

2008-06-06 18:44:52
23.   ucladodger
So we are willing to actually end up spending money to acquire Berroa, but are unwilling to spend an extra $500,000 to get Kyle Blair? This organization is pretty darn frustrating.
2008-06-06 18:56:20
24.   Travis08
22 Kauffman Stadium played as an extreme hitter's park in 2003 - it had a one-year park factor of 114. However, it didn't seem to affect Berroa much - he had a .796 OPS at home, and a .780 OPS on the road.
2008-06-06 19:04:51
25.   Icaros

That decision was about kissing Selig's slimy rear-end and nothing more.

2008-06-06 19:04:56
26.   underdog
Never mind the Dodgers! Danica McKellar is on Walker Texas Ranger, which I just accidentally turned to on the Hallmark Channel! Danica alert!
2008-06-06 19:06:16
27.   Icaros

Accidentally? Sure...

2008-06-06 19:06:24
28.   underdog
Are people really upset that the Dodgers have Angel Berroa? I mean who cares? Well, I suppose Hu cares...

It's not like the other temp SS's were tearing up the place. Having more infield depth isn't a terrible thing.

It doesn't change the fact that the team desperately needs Furcal back, of course.

2008-06-06 19:07:23
29.   underdog
27 - Okay, I have Walker Texas Ranger on my Tivo to-do list. That and a recent showing of Gymkata.
2008-06-06 19:07:35
30.   Alex41592
Royals pick up ALL of Berroa's contract according to Tony Jackson.
2008-06-06 19:07:59
31.   Bob Timmermann
Acquiring Angel Berroa is like having Mr. Burns summon you to his office and tell you that you have to go work as a human broom to sweep out the cooling towers at the nuclear plant.
2008-06-06 19:09:13
32.   Andrew Shimmin
D'oh. Jody Gerut. He's having a not half bad year down south. I always liked Gerut. And Gabe Kapler. And Gabe Gross. And they're all turning in respectable seasons, while Juan Pierre is playing LF for the Dodgers.
2008-06-06 19:10:30
33.   underdog
Hmm, I looked at his defensive stats and Reg is right, they're not very good. I remember him having a decent bat (once) so he seemed worth a flyer, but yeah if he can't field very well then it makes less sense.

Maybe Hu can be designated fielder and Berroa can be designated hitter and Maza can be designated Pesach snack cracker.

2008-06-06 19:15:15
34.   ToyCannon
Berroa or Maza as your starting SS? If you have to ask that question you are in dire straits. Money for nothing

This sounds like Furcal is going to be out a while if they want insurance like Berroa. I remember when the Royals got Berroa and after his 2003 season it looked like the Royals had finally gotten the better of Beane, only to see Mark Ellis blossom and Berroa fall into the depths of Nefism without the defense. This is a bad ballplayer.

To bad the A's are somewhat alive in the pennant race. I'm fairly certain that Ellis could play SS given what a great defensive 2nd baseman he is and the fact he was a solid minor league SS. Always thought it strange that when Cosby kept getting hurt they didn't give Ellis a crack at it. To bad the A's are somewhat in a pennant race, I'd love to have him on this team.

Abreu continues to hurt this team with his absence if Berroa gets at bats.

2008-06-06 19:17:07
35.   underdog
Yeah, it's ironic, but Mark Ellis is the guy I wouldn't mind having as Kent replacement or insurance. Isn't he a free agent after this season?

I hope there's an associated move with this, like LaRoche called up (Sweeney DFA'd or Maza sent down).

2008-06-06 19:19:00
36.   underdog
Can someone step through a wormhole and see whether the Dodgers win tonight's game or not? Just want to decide whether I will be once again wasting my time watching them play. Thanks and best regards,
2008-06-06 19:19:25
37.   Jon Weisman
You know, Pat Listach is only six months older than Jeff Kent. And he's rested.
2008-06-06 19:22:11
38.   Jon Weisman
ITD seems to leave open the possibility that Berroa won't be added to the 40-man, at least not right away. Perhaps I'm overreading.

2008-06-06 19:26:14
39.   underdog
It sounds like, from the latest update on the blog, that Furcal will be out two more weeks, if all goes well and if I'm reading that correctly. Can the Dodgers possibly gain some ground or at least play .500 ball in that period of time, is the question...
2008-06-06 19:28:30
40.   Bob Timmermann
I think you're over-reading. Why go to all the trouble to announce that Berroa has been acquired if he's just going to stashed at Las Vegas?

But I'm wrong. A lot.

2008-06-06 19:30:10
41.   jasonungar07
Does anyone trust any stab in the dark prediction our medical staff makes on when someone will return? Until they are on the field again I consider current dodgers out of action forever.
2008-06-06 19:30:30
42.   Jon Weisman
40 - There's the Mark Bellhorn example.
2008-06-06 19:32:36
43.   student of the game
Dick Kaegal, the Royals' MLB reporter, says Berroa is "expected" to be called up to Los Angeles on Saturday and replace Hu.

2008-06-06 19:33:40
44.   Bob Timmermann
That's why I said Kuo would never pitch again.

But he has.

Now if the Dodgers can only get down by six runs....

2008-06-06 19:34:27
45.   Marty
Good to be back in L.A. Chicago was 90 degrees and really humid when I left.
2008-06-06 19:34:50
46.   Marty
Of course, I may not have a job to go back to.
2008-06-06 19:35:31
47.   Alex41592
Berroa and Maza will be our middle infield tomorrow afternoon. Wow.
2008-06-06 19:37:23
48.   Bob Hendley
Looking for the silver in all of this, is Berroa a traditional leadoff-type that might induce or at least provide an opportunity for sitting, if only occassionally, JP so that we might have Pew Wee in the outfield, but not at the expense of Andre?
2008-06-06 19:38:29
49.   MC Safety
Eww...Angel Berroa sucks pretty bad. Does he have any speed?
2008-06-06 19:39:42
50.   D4P
Having more infield depth isn't a terrible thing

More players doesn't necessarily mean more depth.

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2008-06-06 19:40:04
51.   underdog
I just hope Kuroda brings his A game today and not the Z game he brought the last time he faced the Cubs.
2008-06-06 19:41:27
52.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers will now have had both Berroas play for them.
2008-06-06 19:41:40
53.   underdog
Actually, scratch that, Hiro pitched just fine last time. I must have been thinking of what's his name, that big bearded guy who stinks this year.
2008-06-06 19:43:17
54.   Andrew Shimmin
Jeff Kent approves of Russ's new look.
2008-06-06 19:43:47
55.   underdog
There we go! Nice start, Hiro.

49 50 stolen bases in 4 full seasons+ change.

2008-06-06 19:43:48
56.   Bob Timmermann
Rudolph Valentino had a mustache?
2008-06-06 19:44:14
57.   ucladodger
Thats the gold glove Loney we like.
2008-06-06 19:44:34
58.   KG16
54 - and is likely the only one that does, Vin didn't seem to like it
2008-06-06 19:44:41
59.   Bob Timmermann
Kuroda lasted three innings against the Mets on Sunday.
2008-06-06 19:47:40
60.   underdog
That's what it was. I was thinking about his last time vs. the Cubs and mixing it up with that crummier game vs the Mets. The whole last few weeks for the Dodgers have been one surreal blur.

56 - Was wondering the same thing. Who was he thinking of, I wonder?

2008-06-06 19:50:21
61.   fanerman
I hope we get and keep an early lead so Martin gets a real day off.
2008-06-06 19:51:01
62.   trainwreck
I was just talking to my friend last week about Angel Berroa.

Well, I just watched King of Kong again and then I see that Dodger game is on TV, so I am pumped!

2008-06-06 19:51:57
63.   Alex41592
D.Y could lead off.
2008-06-06 19:52:40
64.   Alex41592
Jeff Kent is back
2008-06-06 19:52:47
65.   ucladodger
Kent has a freakin gorgeous swing when he is right.
2008-06-06 19:53:16
66.   Bob Hendley
Kenty is back!
2008-06-06 19:53:17
67.   underdog
Wow. I thought that ball was out for sure. We'll take the double, but yowsa.

I think Edmonds hurt himself, too. What else is new?

2008-06-06 19:53:47
68.   Bob Timmermann
Perhaps Vin was thinking of Ramon Navarro
2008-06-06 19:54:50
69.   underdog
Fullerton-Stanford is on ESPN2 right now. Your two favorites, Bob!
2008-06-06 19:54:59
70.   OhioBlues12
63 - I would be totally fine with DY leading off in place of Pierre.
2008-06-06 19:56:57
71.   Gen3Blue
Good, I was just musing about how Kuroda would have done if he had hooked on with a poor(financially) team like say Washington with decent hitting.
As bad as Loney and Kemp look now, I expect to be the contrast to their second half.
2008-06-06 19:57:17
72.   Bob Timmermann
Go Cardinal! Beat the Fighting Commuters! Stick up for the honor of the Pac-10!

Arizona (that grudge is over) has beaten #1 Miami in the first game.

2008-06-06 19:58:10
73.   Ken Arneson
34 Ellis can't really play SS anymore. He doesn't have the arm strength after he collided with Crosby, tore up his labrum, and missed all of 2004. It's a bit of a medical miracle he can even throw well enough to play 2B.
2008-06-06 19:58:27
74.   D4P
Despite modest athletic budgets and playing in the shadow of Pac-10 powers, Cal State Fullerton and UC Irvine have excelled

2008-06-06 20:00:20
75.   underdog
I never get tired of hearing about Fukkudome's hat burning anecdote.
2008-06-06 20:01:03
76.   Bob Timmermann
I have no beef with UC Irvine.

Cal State Fulleton has been etched into the obelisk already.

2008-06-06 20:02:26
77.   underdog
I didn't actually see Russell's new moustache -- was it more Rollie Fingers, or Adolphe Menjou, or Snidely Whiplash?
2008-06-06 20:03:35
78.   Bob Timmermann
I saw Hoshino (the name of the guy who is "Burning Hat") get into an argument with an umpire when he was managing Hanshin. He thought that the opposing pitcher had deliberately thrown at his hitter.

He came out and argued in a way that would have made Bobby Cox look like Wally Cox in comparison.

Hoshino must have argued for about five minutes and got one of his coaches involved also.

No other umpire came over to help. And Hoshino was not ejected.

2008-06-06 20:04:25
79.   underdog
I think Cal State Feuilleton would be a much more interesting place to go to school.
2008-06-06 20:05:13
80.   still bevens
77 He looks like he should be wearing a leisure suit.
2008-06-06 20:05:20
81.   Gen3Blue
Hey, Sorianno looks a lot like JP!
2008-06-06 20:05:50
82.   fanerman
72 Grudges can be over?
2008-06-06 20:06:58
83.   Bob Timmermann
It depends if you want to, you know, learn things.
2008-06-06 20:07:27
84.   Bob Timmermann
My grudges arbitrarily begin and end.
2008-06-06 20:07:33
85.   D4P
Cal State Fulleton has been etched into the obelisk already

Did you have to scratch out Arizona...?

2008-06-06 20:07:57
86.   Andrew Shimmin
Wally Cox was a guest panelist (sitting in for Bennett Cerf) on the What's My Line replay, last week or the week before. I found him irritating.
2008-06-06 20:08:21
87.   KG16
Question: does Hu's slump correspond with the playing of Who Let the Dogs Out? Might breaking his slump be as simple as going back to Who Are You?
2008-06-06 20:08:40
88.   Bob Timmermann
No, I hadn't received full funding yet from the American Obelisk Association.
2008-06-06 20:08:41
89.   underdog
78 I would love to have seen that.

Was he disrespectful to dirt? (Can you see that I am serious?)

2008-06-06 20:08:50
90.   sporky
2008-06-06 20:09:22
91.   Bob Timmermann
Speaking ill of Wally Cox could get you a spot on the obelisk.
2008-06-06 20:09:33
92.   fanerman
85 Yeah. I was gonna ask that question next.
2008-06-06 20:09:43
93.   underdog
Wally Cox holds a special place in my heart, for obvious reasons.
2008-06-06 20:12:27
94.   nick
87 or perhaps a lateral move to Aretha's "Hu's Zoomin' Hu"?
2008-06-06 20:12:39
95.   Eric Stephen
At the risk of prominent obelisk placement and or hand dismemberment, who is Wally Cox?
2008-06-06 20:12:44
96.   underdog
Henry Blanco was not high on my list of Former Dodgers I'd Expect to Have Lengthy Careers. Go figure.
2008-06-06 20:12:54
97.   Bob Timmermann
What happens when criminals in this world appear and break the laws that they should fear?
2008-06-06 20:13:36
98.   das411

Two triples, drove in the go ahead run and scored the game winning one...AND then he throws out the tying one at the plate to end it in Atlanta!

(pointing that out doesn't put me on the obelisk, does it?)

2008-06-06 20:13:38
99.   Bob Timmermann
He was Marlon Brando's pal.
2008-06-06 20:14:01
100.   underdog
95 - He was many things:

But he was most famous (to me at least) as the voice of underdog in the original cartoon.

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2008-06-06 20:15:40
101.   underdog
Drat. I should've written that in rhyme. I hope no one considers that a crime.
2008-06-06 20:15:48
102.   Bob Timmermann
Wally Cox was the upper left square on "Hollywood Squares" for a long time.
2008-06-06 20:15:48
103.   D4P
It's 86.7 degrees in Durham right now, at 11:15 PM.

That's wrong. Hot wrong and regular wrong.

2008-06-06 20:17:07
104.   regfairfield
102 So he was yesterday's answer to Bruce Villanch?
2008-06-06 20:17:35
105.   Eric Stephen
Now there's something I can relate to. Thanks.

Where would he rate among all-time Squares, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being Jm J. Bullock and 12 being Paul Lynde?

2008-06-06 20:17:57
106.   underdog
Wow. Cox died pretty young. I hadn't realized that.
2008-06-06 20:18:38
107.   Eric Stephen
I stand corrected. Jm J. Bullock is a 2 or 3. Whoopi Goldberg is a 1.
2008-06-06 20:19:33
108.   underdog
I predict Pierre will either steal here, or be caught stealing. Anyone want to bet with me?
2008-06-06 20:20:06
109.   underdog
Where would George Gobel rate? A 4?
2008-06-06 20:22:10
110.   Jon Weisman

The acquisition of Berroa could soon be followed by a promotion of Andy LaRoche, who is adding second-base and first-base experience to his resume while at Las Vegas.

"He could be called up any time," said manager Joe Torre. "He is close."

Also in Las Vegas, reliever Yhency Brazoban was placed on the disabled list with shoulder inflammation. He missed most of the last two seasons with shoulder and elbow operations and had a 12.38 ERA in eight appearances.

2008-06-06 20:22:40
111.   Eric Stephen
I guess I didn't think too much about the meat of the scale; just the end points.

Was Gobel the guy who was the "3rd guest" on Carson one night with Bob Hope and Dean Martin? Martin kept dumping cigarette ashes in Gobel's drink, and at one point Gobel (if it was him) said something like, "did you ever fell like the world was a tuxedo and you're a pair of brown shoes?"

2008-06-06 20:22:44
112.   Bob Timmermann
The official cause of death was atherosclerosis, but I think Wally was found of illegal substances.

When he was on Hollywood Squares, he looked like he was in his 60s from my perspective. But he was really just a little older than I am now.

But I don't drink as much as Wally did.

2008-06-06 20:23:22
113.   underdog
Hmm, should've bet with me.
2008-06-06 20:24:41
114.   underdog
110 Yesss!

111 - I just know him as that guy who was in the lower left square on Hollywood Squares a lot when I was a kid, and I had no idea who he was.

2008-06-06 20:24:50
115.   Gen3Blue
I have to admit that Hu has been a disapointment to me although he perhaps could have used a bit more time in AAA.
I spent several years in a large corp.'s department that at the time was called employee relations, although the name changes and I'm not sure what it is now.
I saw data about blue collar workers showing that a rather large minority developed back problems at about 25 years of age and these problems usually lasted until about 35 years of age. At 35, a few of these people were disabled, while many of them recovered. I never saw info on whether these people moved into jobs with less "back", learned how to spare their backs, or just recovered.
I hope this has little bearing on Furcal, because the torgue of swinging at a major league pitch is not to be sneezed at.
Also, D Young looks like a hitter we need in there. Too bad it is at the expense of Ethier.
2008-06-06 20:26:12
116.   still bevens
So is Kent still flirting with a .300 OBP? Swinging at 3-0 as much has he does doesnt lead to many walks.
2008-06-06 20:26:21
117.   Bob Timmermann
Goebel was known for that quote about the tuxedo and brown shoes.
2008-06-06 20:26:34
118.   underdog
So is it Hu and Maza both demoted if Berroa and LaRoche arrive? Or would it be Tiffee? Or do they dare DFA Sweeney? {cue organ music} Stay tuned...
2008-06-06 20:27:39
119.   underdog
117 - Not to be confused with Goebbels, who had a quote about brownshirts?
2008-06-06 20:27:46
120.   Bob Timmermann
In my day, lower left was Charlie Weaver. And when you played Hollywood Squares, you better start with Charlie Weaver!
2008-06-06 20:27:58
121.   Marty
Eric didn't know Mr. Peepers?
2008-06-06 20:28:02
122.   ucladodger
Its almost automatic that Kent will swing 3-0. 2-6 on that count isnt very good, though.
2008-06-06 20:28:42
123.   SoSG Orel
77 , 90 For those in the Russell Martin Facial Hair Marching & Chowder Society:

2008-06-06 20:29:19
124.   D4P
In my day, lower left was Charlie Weaver


2008-06-06 20:30:31
125.   regfairfield
118 I'm assuming it's DFA Sweeney to make room on the 40 man, then demoting Hu.
2008-06-06 20:31:52
126.   ucladodger
Darn. That thing was in his webbing. not sure about the error on loney. Probably should have come off of the bag for it, but not an error.
2008-06-06 20:32:09
127.   sporky
2008-06-06 20:32:16
128.   Jon Weisman
There is no way that should be Loney's error. He was sprawled on his side and still couldn't reach the throw.
2008-06-06 20:32:28
129.   underdog
Darnit, Kuroda almost made a great play to get a glove on that one but couldn't hold it. I don't know how Loney gets an error on that but I guess they had to give it to someone?
2008-06-06 20:32:42
130.   Bob Timmermann
Although we've had "butter and egg man" tonight and "marching and chowder society" persists, I don't believe Vin has pulled out the "celery stalks at midnight" line has he?
2008-06-06 20:33:15
131.   underdog
127 - Hurrah! This is all some good karma working for Andy tonight.
2008-06-06 20:33:28
132.   Jon Weisman
They changed it. That's better. Except for the runners on first and third part.
2008-06-06 20:33:36
133.   JJ42
I've got a bad feeling that we'll see an outfield of Pierre-Kemp-Young a lot more and that we'll never see Young-Kemp-Ethier.
2008-06-06 20:33:37
134.   Bob Timmermann
The scoring was changed to Kuroda. I guess JoeyP wasn't able to get to the official scorer in time.
2008-06-06 20:33:45
135.   underdog
Ah they changed it. It's an error for Kuroda. Better.
2008-06-06 20:34:16
136.   sporky
And Gary Bennett with 2 walks.
2008-06-06 20:34:29
137.   underdog
Way too many Cubs fans at DS again tonight. Grrr.
2008-06-06 20:35:03
138.   Jon Weisman
Pinango can still get the win for Vegas on the strength of his three innings/10 hits/seven runs allowed performance.
2008-06-06 20:35:22
139.   ucladodger
Thank you, aramis.
2008-06-06 20:35:36
140.   JJ42
123 That's a little disturbing. I hope it's a one day tribute to Jeff Kent.
2008-06-06 20:36:02
141.   sporky
I hope Fukudome loneys here.
2008-06-06 20:38:02
142.   ucladodger
Wow. Lou's gonna go nuts.
2008-06-06 20:38:30
143.   nick
nice break!
2008-06-06 20:38:35
144.   Jon Weisman
He really was safe at first, wasn't he.
2008-06-06 20:38:38
145.   Icaros
That's one of the worst calls at first I've ever seen.
2008-06-06 20:38:39
146.   Bob Timmermann
Time to declare victory and get out!
2008-06-06 20:38:49
147.   Alex41592
Vinny is laughing his Hall of Fame tush off on that horrible call.
2008-06-06 20:38:50
148.   JJ42
We need a call like that every now and then.
2008-06-06 20:39:22
149.   underdog
Whew. Get a break on that call. he was clearly safe. I'm sure Lou will come out on argue it to no avail. He needs to argue something three times a game at least anyway.
2008-06-06 20:39:30
150.   sporky
Thank you, Mr. Cousins.
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2008-06-06 20:39:59
151.   underdog
But hey, most importantly, Sporky's wish comes true!
2008-06-06 20:40:26
152.   Jon Weisman
Tight game in Fullertontown.
2008-06-06 20:40:39
153.   ucladodger
That's one of the wosrt out/safe calls i can remember. Really, it was a pretty easy call and the umpires are almost always spot on with those.
2008-06-06 20:41:19
154.   Bob Hendley
151 - Hope that doesn't catch on.
2008-06-06 20:41:23
155.   Alex41592
Even Don Denkinger disagreed with that call
2008-06-06 20:41:27
156.   D4P
That could be just the break we need to win our first game when scoring 2 or fewer runs.
2008-06-06 20:41:44
157.   sporky
151 Woo!
2008-06-06 20:42:17
158.   underdog
The Aflac question was on the blatantly self-promotional tonight.
2008-06-06 20:42:58
159.   Bob Timmermann
Vin did not approve of that question.
2008-06-06 20:43:14
160.   underdog
"on the.... side tonight" that should read.

Okay, come on boys, two on -- time to actually extend a lead for once!

2008-06-06 20:43:30
161.   ucladodger
He should have called Blake out...
2008-06-06 20:43:54
162.   Bob Timmermann
The bases loaded for the gristle of the order.
2008-06-06 20:44:05
163.   nick
sacks full for the bottom of the lineup? bring on the pinchhitters...
2008-06-06 20:44:16
164.   thinkblue88

What was the question?

2008-06-06 20:44:24
165.   Alex41592
7,8,9 hitters don't give us the best chance to score here.
2008-06-06 20:44:30
166.   underdog
I was waiting for the ump to call him out on that one to even things out, but that was even less close.

The heart of the order coming up!

2008-06-06 20:44:31
167.   MonkeyBlue
Who is this guy?
2008-06-06 20:45:47
168.   Alex41592
I'll take a 6-4-3 DP just to get a run in
2008-06-06 20:46:00
169.   Bob Timmermann
If 7, 8, and 9 are the heart of the order, I would hate to see who the liver and kidneys are.
2008-06-06 20:46:09
170.   regfairfield
167 Our backup catcher, played in Colorado for a bit. No hit, good glove, solid arm.
2008-06-06 20:46:11
171.   underdog
164 - How many Aflac All American HS players were drafted in the first round this year? (A: 10.)
2008-06-06 20:46:44
172.   ucladodger
Great at bat!
2008-06-06 20:46:56
173.   underdog
Sorry, I meant the crotch of the order.
2008-06-06 20:46:57
174.   sporky
I shan't complain.
2008-06-06 20:47:06
175.   JJ42
there's something in the air over chavez ravine tonight!
2008-06-06 20:47:17
176.   Gen3Blue
Oh, man. Bases loaded and Ardoin up! At least we might get into the bull-pen.
RBI, but oh what could have been.
2008-06-06 20:47:33
177.   underdog
And that ball was crotched just right!
2008-06-06 20:47:55
178.   underdog
Time for one last hurrah for Hu?
2008-06-06 20:47:58
179.   Bob Timmermann
You mean you can feel that there's something in the air tonight.

Oh no.

I've been waiting for this moment for much of my life.

Oh no.

2008-06-06 20:48:34
180.   underdog
Just make him throw strikes.
2008-06-06 20:49:27
181.   underdog
179 Arrgh. Don't make me obelisk you.
2008-06-06 20:49:41
182.   JJ42
179 I figured that comment was going to lead to that.
2008-06-06 20:50:34
183.   MonkeyBlue
Hu needs a compact swing like Lo Duca
2008-06-06 20:50:42
184.   Gen3Blue
Wow-- that is not often a strike!
2008-06-06 20:51:00
185.   ucladodger
That 3-1 pitch was a ball. The ump probably called it a strike because Hu tried to "duck" it.
2008-06-06 20:51:08
186.   nick
Hu's uselessness with the bat is approaching the unprecedented....
2008-06-06 20:51:52
187.   regfairfield
And yet he's still better than Angel Berroa.
2008-06-06 20:51:59
188.   underdog
That was a good pitch, but not gonna help Hu's cause any. Of course, it's probably moot anyway.
2008-06-06 20:52:49
189.   sporky
A WP/PB. That's all I ask.
2008-06-06 20:52:52
190.   underdog
186 Hey, he'll be good someday. Now is just not his time, he's pressing and inexperienced. Some time in Vegas will do him good.
2008-06-06 20:52:52
191.   Jon Weisman
179 - I'm down to the final three Reapers. Benji just met his Phil Collins. I've been loving the past few episodes.
2008-06-06 20:53:29
192.   Alex41592
186 - Hee-Seop Choi with the Dodgers in 2004.
2008-06-06 20:54:00
193.   thinkblue88
2008-06-06 20:54:36
194.   regfairfield
193 He didn't say 2005, so it's hard to argue.
2008-06-06 20:54:41
195.   underdog
Since someone was asking about Xavier Paul here the other day, he has a double and two walks(!) so far tonight; that'll help his OPS a little.
2008-06-06 20:55:20
196.   Gen3Blue
I love acoustic basses. But "I've been waiting" was such a bad lyric it ruined Collins or whoever it was for me.
2008-06-06 20:56:23
197.   sporky
Andy with an RBI single!
2008-06-06 20:56:45
198.   underdog
And LaRoche just singled to drive in another run!

Call him up already!

2008-06-06 20:57:14
199.   Bob Timmermann
Cardinal up 3-0 in Titantown.
2008-06-06 20:57:15
200.   Alex41592
Now if LaRoche is called up and plays 2B tomorrow. That's a decision I would fully support.
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2008-06-06 20:58:13
201.   sporky
He also turned a DP.
2008-06-06 20:59:27
202.   regfairfield
Somehow, Hu only has the 27th worst OPS for a Dodger non pitcher with 100 PA in a season.
2008-06-06 21:00:54
203.   MSarg29
nice quick inning
2008-06-06 21:01:29
204.   underdog
I hope this won't be yet another (high) quality start by a Dodger pitcher that is wasted by lack of run support. Hiro's been great so far. Another run or two would make me sweat less.
2008-06-06 21:02:41
205.   sporky
When Bennett comes off the DL, do you think they'll stick with Ardoin?
2008-06-06 21:03:20
206.   regfairfield
205 They should. Ardoin at least has pretty good defense.
2008-06-06 21:03:35
207.   Jon Weisman
Pinango just gave up his 12th hit in 76 pitches. Trying to hang on to have a shot at that win - game tied 7-7 in the fifth.
2008-06-06 21:03:47
208.   Eric Stephen
During my freshman year at UCSD, one of the people in my suite (two doors down) once played that song over and over again for 6 hours straight while studying for a test. It was maddening, and I love that song!
2008-06-06 21:04:12
209.   Jon Weisman
206 - I was gonna say, there's something about Ardoin I find very tolerable.

But Bennett appears to be making his way back.

2008-06-06 21:05:14
210.   sporky
206 When they make these decisions, I wonder if they talk to the pitchers before deciding on roster moves.
2008-06-06 21:05:39
211.   nick
202 what about ops+?
2008-06-06 21:07:11
212.   Alex41592
Well that was only a pitch two feet low and a few inches inside. Baby steps...
2008-06-06 21:07:53
213.   sporky
I hope that makes up for the Fukudome GIDP.
2008-06-06 21:08:14
214.   sporky
2008-06-06 21:08:23
215.   MSarg29
wow that was low and inside
2008-06-06 21:08:40
216.   Gen3Blue
D's hitters really made Whats his name throw some pitches--eh? And previously they had him on the ropes. Well I guess they trust thre bull-pen.
2008-06-06 21:09:44
217.   JJ42
208 Speaking of UCSD, I was on the train leaving SD earlier today and sat next to a kid finishing up his first year. He was telling me that his parents want him to be a dentist but he really wanted to write scripts for television. I told him to do whatever would make him happy - his parents would eventually get over it. I should've referred him to you Jon to get some pros and cons.
2008-06-06 21:10:03
218.   ucladodger
Thats not good. I really do wish umpires were held accountable for their mistakes. 2 pretty wretched calls tonight that really affected the game.
2008-06-06 21:10:41
219.   OhioBlues12
Now we have Maza batting 3rd. Great.
2008-06-06 21:10:46
220.   Gen3Blue
Of course the ump had to throw him out, because it was obviously a bad call. But the D's souldn't fell confident with their bull-pen. Oh well.
2008-06-06 21:11:05
221.   Eric Stephen
It was kind of weird to see Jeff Kent smile like that. Pretty bad call for strike 3, but then again we got the gift at 1B earlier with Fukudome.
2008-06-06 21:11:14
222.   Gen3Blue
2008-06-06 21:11:25
223.   underdog
I don't blame Kent for being angry, that was a terrible call. BUT we can't afford to have key offensive players getting kicked out of games.
2008-06-06 21:12:03
224.   Alex41592
Does that mean Kent will play tomorrow?
2008-06-06 21:12:33
225.   nick
dreadful's a proposal: use computer data, do an extensive review, warn the bottom 10% of umps every offseason. you come bottom 10% twice in a row, look for another job. too harsh? I'd accompany this stick with the carrot of a big salary increase, fwiw....
2008-06-06 21:12:43
226.   OhioBlues12
Can LaRoche get here to finish out the game at 2B?
2008-06-06 21:12:48
227.   Eric Stephen
It would be nice to utilize Delwyn Young's versatility and get Ethier into the game instead of Maza. Oh well.
2008-06-06 21:13:22
228.   berkowit28
207 What game? Who is Pinango?
2008-06-06 21:13:42
229.   sporky
228 In Las Vegas.
2008-06-06 21:13:43
230.   JJ42
219 I thought they would move DY to 2nd and put Ethier in Kent's spot. Another reason for me to doubt Torre's judgement.
2008-06-06 21:13:44
231.   Alex41592
I look for Maza to play defensively and when his time comes to bat, Torre will PH Ethier and move D.Y to second.
2008-06-06 21:13:49
232.   underdog
227 - I was just thinking that, too. Why not? Oh well, indeed.
2008-06-06 21:14:18
233.   sporky
That one was for real. Woo!
2008-06-06 21:14:25
234.   Jon Weisman
And Pinango leaves with a 9-8 lead!
2008-06-06 21:14:30
235.   Eric Stephen
Isn't MLB sort of doing that now, with Questec?
2008-06-06 21:14:48
236.   sporky
Xavier Paul with the go-ahead RBI double.
2008-06-06 21:14:53
237.   JJ42
231 that would be nice
2008-06-06 21:15:30
238.   Eric Stephen
I can actually live with that. Good point.
2008-06-06 21:17:14
239.   Gen3Blue
Wow, Sorianno looks exactly like JP. I guess he is much bigger, but when there is nothing to compare him to. His batting stance is similiar also.
2008-06-06 21:17:42
240.   underdog
226 Now Andy, did you hear about this one?
Tell me, are you locked in the punch?
Andy, are you goofing on Vegas?
Hey baby, are we losing touch?
2008-06-06 21:18:23
241.   Jon Weisman
ARgh, Koplove coughs up Pinango's win.
2008-06-06 21:18:56
242.   underdog
That kid Loney with two hits tonight. Maybe people can remove that fork they stuck in him.
2008-06-06 21:21:13
243.   Eric Stephen
If you believe, Colletti is a buffoon.
Is a buffooooooon.
2008-06-06 21:22:10
244.   underdog
Might as well just pitch around DeWitt if you're the Cubs, even with nobody out.
2008-06-06 21:23:08
245.   regfairfield
Hu has the 14th worst single season OPS+ ever for the Dodgers.
2008-06-06 21:23:46
246.   sporky
I love Ardoin.
2008-06-06 21:23:54
247.   MonkeyBlue
Holy crap! nice call!
2008-06-06 21:23:56
248.   Eric Stephen
2008-06-06 21:24:03
249.   Alex41592
2008-06-06 21:24:19
250.   ucladodger
great call by Torre.
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2008-06-06 21:24:50
251.   nick
245 I was just looking.....Maury Wills 1972 will not be challenged, however!
2008-06-06 21:25:05
252.   underdog
Nicely squozen!

Gettin' runs anyway we can.

2008-06-06 21:25:18
253.   Eric Stephen
I'm an absolute sucker for the squeeze play. I unabashedly love it!

I would be a horrible manager because I would go for the squeeze way too often. I'd also fake punt a lot, to the point where a real punt would be the fake.

2008-06-06 21:25:28
254.   Jon Weisman
249 - Hey, let's be judicious with that one :)
2008-06-06 21:26:21
255.   sporky
Let Hu have a hit! Please! For his bruised ego!
2008-06-06 21:26:42
256.   underdog
If you believed there's nothing up the GM's sleeve
Then he's just a fool.

Here's a little agit-a for the never-believer
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Here's a little PVL for the offering
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

2008-06-06 21:26:48
257.   Gen3Blue
Now it might be good to pinch hit for Hu and Kuroda, but you have no one better on the bench, so leave Kuroda in.
2008-06-06 21:26:53
258.   Alex41592
254 - Agreed, I'm 23 and saw that play for the first time online a few months ago. I got chills. Incredible call.
2008-06-06 21:27:03
259.   Eric Stephen
The thing with that squeeze was, did you see how long it took Loney to score? I don't believe a play could have been made at the plate, but let's just say our first baseman for the next decade won't win many foot races.
2008-06-06 21:28:09
260.   ucladodger
When some guys struggle, they look good at the plate. Hu is not one of those guys. He actually reminds me a little of Nakamura, which isnt exactly a good thing.
2008-06-06 21:28:23
261.   MonkeyBlue
Damn Hu! so useless.
2008-06-06 21:28:48
262.   Eric Stephen
Hu-mongous hole in his swing.
2008-06-06 21:28:52
263.   ucladodger

It actually hurt me a little to type that. Baby steps, i guess.

2008-06-06 21:29:04
264.   Gen3Blue
I think Kuroda only has 74 pitches, and he was expected to throw many more in Japan.
2008-06-06 21:29:08
265.   regfairfield
259 It's bizzare since Loney looks pretty athletic so he shouldn't be that slow. Maybe he's just hiding a big gut well.
2008-06-06 21:29:34
266.   Alex41592
There's little to no doubt Hu is ready from a defensive standpoint. I wish there was some way to make that work.
2008-06-06 21:30:10
267.   underdog
I think the Dodgers should be allowed to use a DH until Furcal comes back.
2008-06-06 21:30:34
268.   Eric Stephen
I really love the look on the dude's face in the AM/PM "female roommate" commercial. It's quintessential dork.
2008-06-06 21:31:34
269.   underdog
Yeah, there was no reason to pinch hit for Kuroda there. His pitch count is so low and he's pitching well and he's up 3-0. Still, I pine for the DH every once in awhile.
2008-06-06 21:32:08
270.   ucladodger
Vinny is a little Po'd.
2008-06-06 21:32:10
271.   Eric Stephen
Holy crap! Angry Vin!!!!
2008-06-06 21:32:12
272.   sporky
Wow, Vin was not happy about that.
2008-06-06 21:32:13
273.   Jon Weisman
Oh man, this might be the angriest I've ever seen Vin, being upset about D-Day being ignored.
2008-06-06 21:32:42
274.   JJ42
2008-06-06 21:32:43
275.   nick
266 suppose they signed Beroa as an extra SS, with the intention of dropping a pitcher and PHing every time the SS comes up either leading off an inning or in a non-bunting runners-on situation...


2008-06-06 21:32:43
276.   underdog
Vin with a great (and angry) reminder that today was D-Day, which I'm sure I'm not the only one to have forgotten.
2008-06-06 21:32:45
277.   Bob Timmermann
I don't believe I've ever heard Angry Vin before.
2008-06-06 21:32:52
278.   Eric Stephen
It would be pretty awesome (well not really I guess) if Loney wore a girdle.
2008-06-06 21:33:06
279.   MollyKnight
Wow. Um, did I really just see that?
2008-06-06 21:33:27
280.   Jon Weisman
The previous record for Vin anger was his pique at Kevin Malone.
2008-06-06 21:33:30
282.   Alex41592
Vin with his Edward R. Murrow moment. And I could not agree more. Also, don't forget RFK as well.
2008-06-06 21:33:33
283.   Gen3Blue
Hu plays every bit as well as Furcal on defense. Soon he will see that that is not going to win for the Dodgers. I think he could figure it out with more time in the minors. He will probably see it tonight.
2008-06-06 21:33:38
284.   sporky
Andy HBP.
2008-06-06 21:33:44
285.   nick
it seemed like Vin was actively trying to hold back, too....
2008-06-06 21:33:51
286.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
That wasn't just Angry Vin - that was Shrill Vin!
2008-06-06 21:33:55
287.   regfairfield
Maybe he just accelerates really poorly. I know it takes me more than 90 feet to reach top speed.
2008-06-06 21:34:17
288.   underdog
The Vincredible Hulk there. "Anger rising..."
2008-06-06 21:34:20
289.   Icaros
I feel like my teacher just yelled at me.
2008-06-06 21:34:40
290.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
282 - "Good night and good luck... Oh wait, it's only the seventh inning."
2008-06-06 21:35:12
291.   LogikReader
Man I'd better remember not to forget D-day ever again.
2008-06-06 21:35:28
292.   underdog
282 - I didn't forget RFK, at least. Blogged about it the other day, even. Something that affected my dad a great deal and still makes him tear up, happened a year before I was born.
2008-06-06 21:35:54
293.   MollyKnight
If not for this website I would not have believed what I saw was real. I am running on about two hours sleep and delusional, anyway.
2008-06-06 21:35:58
294.   Eric Stephen
A close 2nd (now 3rd) is Vin's mention of the club letting Mike Scioscia get away.
2008-06-06 21:36:29
295.   Gen3Blue
So that was why the History channell had D-day features all day. Vin knows the names of all the beaches.
2008-06-06 21:37:05
296.   Eric Stephen
I guess it will be easier to remember the anniversary of A.V. Day now.
2008-06-06 21:37:17
297.   sporky
Hiro is unbelievable tonight.
2008-06-06 21:37:22
298.   MonkeyBlue
Wow, Kuroda! so good!
2008-06-06 21:37:39
299.   JJ42
295 Because he know men who fought on those beaches.
2008-06-06 21:38:24
300.   silverwidow
Kuroda was sitting at 95-96 MPH that inning. Is anyone else shocked by this?
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2008-06-06 21:38:24
301.   underdog
Another gem by Kuroda. If he loses this one I may very well cry.
2008-06-06 21:38:26
302.   CanuckDodger
265 -- What about Karros? I always thought he looked like the All-American athlete. But he didn't run any faster than Loney. Steve Garvey was no different. Firm body. Just shorter. First basemen usually are slow, which is one reason why they play first base.
2008-06-06 21:38:31
303.   sporky
There was no hint of anger before or after that segment, too. Consummate professional.
2008-06-06 21:39:17
304.   Alex41592
Vinny was 16 on D-Day.
2008-06-06 21:39:26
305.   sporky
Mike Koplove with an INSIDE THE PARK HOMERUN.
2008-06-06 21:39:55
306.   MollyKnight
Something tells me Jon will have a post about D-Day on June 6, 2009.
2008-06-06 21:40:23
307.   underdog
303 - Aren't those segments recorded earlier? Seems like they just cleverly make them look "live" but I'm not sure they are. Either way, though, he is a consummate professional.
2008-06-06 21:40:48
308.   Jon Weisman
294 - That's pretty much the same conversation:

2008-06-06 21:41:14
309.   Lexinthedena
Vin's "outburst" brought us all out of our rooms here at the Lex the man has convictions....

I remember him making a comment about hugo Chavez calling Bush the Devil, which he didn't like, but nothing like this.

2008-06-06 21:41:29
310.   Eric Stephen
That's a good point. But I still contend Garvey's Popeye arms weighed him down.

Mike Marshall was a damn good athlete but was slow as molasses too. I still love his run to pull the Dodgers within 4-3 in Game 1 of 1988 WS. The shot of him churning his legs like a broken down engine is classic.

2008-06-06 21:41:29
311.   MonkeyBlue
Wow! nice cleavage!
2008-06-06 21:41:51
312.   Disabled List
I just got back from a bar where I was talking with a girl who went to high school with Clayton Kershaw. She said he was very nice, but kind of shy. She didn't know that he had a great curveball, but I was happy to inform her of that.
2008-06-06 21:41:59
313.   Jon Weisman
306 - If I can get control of the TiVo before I go to bed, I'll have one on June 6, 2008.

305 - That's the way to vulture a win!

307 - Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. You can usually tell from the background.

2008-06-06 21:42:00
314.   underdog
306 - That'll make Jon less angry at him.

Wow, I had to doublecheck the MILB Gameday just to make sure you weren't making that up.

2008-06-06 21:42:48
315.   Eric Stephen
It's probably half and half live and recorded, or something close to that. You can always tell the difference because for the taped events players are taking BP in the background.
2008-06-06 21:43:20
316.   underdog
314 referred to 305 not 306, of course.

C'mon Pee Wee!

2008-06-06 21:44:00
317.   MollyKnight
Man, Edmonds watches a lot of baseballs go over his head these days.
2008-06-06 21:44:05
318.   Gen3Blue
I'd like to see Young, Ethier, and Kemp everyday. I'm seeing how many pitches Young seems to cause every at bat.
2008-06-06 21:44:22
319.   OhioBlues12
We need more Pee Wee!
2008-06-06 21:44:25
320.   ucladodger
That dude needs to play a lot. Pierre needs not to play a lot. I see an easy soltuion...
2008-06-06 21:44:53
321.   underdog
Pee Wee! And now our slugger is up!
2008-06-06 21:45:14
322.   Eric Stephen
So much for the Ethier/Maza switch.
2008-06-06 21:45:14
323.   JJ42
Maza's up -there goes that theory
2008-06-06 21:45:30
324.   sporky
DY has seen 26 pitches in 4 AB tonight.
2008-06-06 21:45:47
325.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when D-Day is 64...
2008-06-06 21:45:58
326.   Eric Stephen
I see an easy soltuion...

DeWitt to the OF? Oh wait, it wasn't capitalized.

2008-06-06 21:46:20
327.   sporky
That mustache is nothing short of horrible.
2008-06-06 21:46:22
328.   Bob Timmermann
Vin's D-Day speech was live. You can see Luis Maza warming up at second base in the background.
2008-06-06 21:46:46
329.   Alex41592
Torre is a mastermind
2008-06-06 21:46:54
330.   underdog
IF the Dodgers hold on to win this one, this will be the first time in presumably quite awhile where all the NL West teams won, yah? Wacky. IF they hold on.
2008-06-06 21:47:14
331.   underdog
2008-06-06 21:47:19
332.   MonkeyBlue
Come on get some runs! I don't even feel comfortable with a 3 run lead!
2008-06-06 21:48:53
333.   underdog
328 You must be watching the non-deluxe broadcast. On mine, they had a rear screen projection with black and white footage of men landing on Omaha Beach and Adagio for Strings playing in the background. You should really upgrade.
2008-06-06 21:49:35
334.   sporky
Loney up with 1 out and a runner on 1st... I have a bad feeling about this :)
2008-06-06 21:49:53
335.   Alex41592
I think they have to run Maza here
2008-06-06 21:50:13
336.   sporky
That :) should be a :(
2008-06-06 21:50:19
337.   Gen3Blue
301 we really do have the starting pitching of the whole works. But it takes more. Clutch hitting we won't discuss. But our releif is also excellant, except when it is important. Its been a perfect storm against us, darn it.
2008-06-06 21:50:43
338.   JJ42
333 someone with video editing skills should load that up on youtube
2008-06-06 21:51:12
339.   Bob Hendley
With Pew Wee hitting right after JP in the lineup, one can really appreciate their different approaches the the plate.
2008-06-06 21:52:39
340.   MonkeyBlue
2008-06-06 21:53:06
341.   sporky
Hey, only 1 out.
2008-06-06 21:53:34
342.   MSarg29
How often do we strike out w/ a man on third and less than 2 out? Seems like we do it all the time.
2008-06-06 21:53:48
343.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Another first: Vin mentioning Linkin Park.
2008-06-06 21:54:33
344.   underdog
You could scrub all your dirty pots and pans with Eyre's goatee.
2008-06-06 21:56:00
345.   underdog
Not super clutch these days...
2008-06-06 21:58:02
346.   Bob Hendley
344 - You and Sporky should start FacialHair Thoughts.
2008-06-06 22:00:16
347.   sporky
This is positively Billingsleyan.
2008-06-06 22:00:31
348.   Eric Stephen
MLBAM would just remove the video eventually anyway
2008-06-06 22:00:45
349.   underdog
Wow. Hiro is on fire.
2008-06-06 22:01:00
350.   Eric Stephen
I'm Eric Stephen, and I approve of that message.
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2008-06-06 22:01:12
351.   MonkeyBlue
Come on Kuroda! papa wants to see 10k!
2008-06-06 22:01:12
352.   Icaros
Kuroda providing the '60s Dodgers pitching to go along with the '60s Dodgers offense.
2008-06-06 22:01:58
353.   waterboy100
so, have the dodgers had a comple game winner yet this year?.

live from the stadium

2008-06-06 22:03:21
354.   Eric Stephen
Kuroda takes the club ERA lead from Billingsley. 3.57 to 3.53.

(Kuo is at 1.93, but is 23.1 IP short of qualifying).

2008-06-06 22:03:23
355.   Jon Weisman
2008-06-06 22:03:53
356.   sporky
353 Nope.
2008-06-06 22:05:07
357.   Alex41592
Kuroda and Ardoin work very well with each other.
2008-06-06 22:05:27
358.   Bob Hendley
What was it..a walkoff salami by Martin, an 11-1 drubbing of the Pads and now this. I think we should all chip in to buy season tickets for Lonestar's English godfather.
2008-06-06 22:06:19
359.   waterboy100
and a second question. do u let kuroda come back for the 9th, or bringin saito?
2008-06-06 22:07:12
360.   Fallout
Maybe Kuroda has learned how to win on this Dodger team. Pitch a complete game shutout.
2008-06-06 22:08:31
361.   Gen3Blue
Here is what is wrong with baseball. This is Kuroda's game to win or lose. I am afraid they will have to pull Hiroki, but they don't really have a hitter on the bench. Wait they have Martin!
In the sixty's and seventy's which unfortunately I remember, if the team wasn't hitting, the starters would often buck up and just pitch nine inning shutouts.
2008-06-06 22:08:33
362.   MonkeyBlue
Saito in! I'm holding my breath.
2008-06-06 22:09:53
363.   MonkeyBlue
NVM! I love Torre!
2008-06-06 22:10:44
364.   Gen3Blue
Please keep Kuroda in, and then if you have too bring in Saito or Broxton, who through no fault of there own, are apt to blow it this year.
2008-06-06 22:15:48
365.   ucladodger
Absolutely brilliant performance by Hirkoki.
2008-06-06 23:14:06
366.   Neal Pollack
Am I too late to chime in on Angel Berroa? Certainly, he's no great shakes, but SS has been an absolute mess since Furcal went down. I'd rather have a .250 career hitter with a small amount of pop as my backup infielder than what we've got now. It's a small, financially inconsequential deal that can't really hurt the team, given the current situation.
2008-06-07 11:52:03
367.   RMAPasad
Re: 366.. The belief that Berroa will relieve even any iota of the "mess" at SS is over-optimistic. Berroa had one decent season in the majors followed by 3 yrs of 55-80 OPS and poor defense. If the Royals thought they could help (after all he was still under contract) they would have brought him back from AAA. Their current SS is hitting .151 - which is no better than Hu.
How "financially inconsequential" this is for the Dodgers depends on what estimates to believe. Tony Jackson says KC is picking up "ALL", says the Dodgers are picking up "nearly all". Colletti's comments seem to show LA was picking up something. But almost anything seems senseless for a SS who in reality is no better than Maza, and will only start 9-10 games before Furcal returns. It's the kind of silly vet bandaid that a panicked Colletti has frequently applied (Loaiza, Hillenbrand, Wells, etc) thinking that somehow these guys will re-discover that decent season they had once upon a time.

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