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Kershaw IV: Kershawshank Redemption
2008-06-10 17:00
by Jon Weisman

Dodgers at Padres, 7:05 p.m.

Tonight, 20-year-old Clayton Kershaw faces 42-year-old Greg Maddux.

On September 2, 1986, 20-year-old Greg Maddux faced 39-year-old Nolan Ryan.

On April 18, 1970, 23-year-old Nolan Ryan faced 38-year-old Jim Bunning.

That's all I've got for now. Clayton Kershaw, born in 1988, two games removed from a pitcher who was born in 1931.

* * *

I really want to make something clear about my earlier post today. It was not an analysis of Ned Colletti. It was a statement that Ned Colletti deserves more attention than he has been getting, relative to the attention the Dodgers' younger players have received. The outcome of that attention, at least as far as I was concerned, was a subject for another day.

Nor was it a statement that the Dodgers' season should be summed up in two words. It was a statement that, however, if you were going to try to sum up the season in two words, Ned Colletti is a better place to start than "the kids."

But you know me. I'll have plenty more to say about the Dodgers ...

Update: I haven't been speculating on when Rafael Furcal will return to the Dodger lineup, maybe because I was too resigned to news like this, from Tony Jackson of the Daily News.

... best-case scenario is he is activated the week before the All-Star break -- and so far, there is nothing about this whole matter that would suggest the best-case scenario is the most likely one ...

Jackson adds that Nomar Garciaparra will play shortstop when he starts a rehab assignment, "possibly by the end of this week."

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2008-06-10 17:06:51
1.   Eric Stephen
Kershaw IV vs. Maddux DCCXXI
2008-06-10 17:09:41
2.   Bluebleeder87
from last thread:

Ned signed these guys & I gave my thumbs up too:

4)Kuroda (to be fair I new nothing of him but it looked good)

Ned signed these guys & I scratched my head:

4)[I know there is more but can't remember, little help please]

2008-06-10 17:12:35
3.   Bluebleeder87
Like BrianF this is the 1st time I actually get to watch Kershaw pitch from the comfort of my own home, so I'm kind of excited, let's hope he has something similar like he had in his debut when I saw him pitch live.
2008-06-10 17:13:58
4.   Bob Timmermann
On 9/21/1956,
Jim Bunning faced Early Wynn

Early Wynn broke into the majors in 1939. And you can go from there.

Satchel Paige is the Eddie Arnold of this game.

2008-06-10 17:14:31
5.   GMac In The 909
2 I'd say Nomar Part II was a head-scratcher.

OT: Anyone see this (courtesy of rotoworld):

"Ex-NBA referee Tim Donaghy told the feds two referees fixed the outcome of one playoff series and that officials were told not to eject star players from games for fear of hurting ticket sales.

The allegations are contained in a court document filed Tuesday by Donaghy's lawyer. Donaghy said officials were told not to call technical fouls on stars, and that two officials helped extend a 2002 playoff series to a seventh game, all in the name of ticket sales and television revenue. The Kings/Lakers series was the only one to go seven games that year, with the Lakers winning games 6 and 7. If Donaghy's allegations are factual, David Stern's worst nightmares may have just come true."

Hopefully the fix is in tonight at Staples Center (much like it was in Boston on Sunday).

2008-06-10 17:19:00
6.   GMac In The 909
5 Hopefully the fix is in tonight at Staples Center (much like it was in Boston on Sunday).

And by that I mean I'd like the home team to get the favorable calls.

2008-06-10 17:20:29
7.   Bluebleeder87
here is a story about tonights match up [ ]

here is a sneak peak >>>Kershaw acknowledged it's "cool" that he'll be able to one day look back and say he pitched against the legendary Maddux, but that's not what he's concerned with.

"I'm not worried about who I'm pitching against," Kershaw said. "If I do what I can do, I'm not really worried about what he does."

I love this kid. You have to have that kind of mentality to be successful.

2008-06-10 17:20:56
8.   LAT
D-Train optioned to not AAA, not AA but A. At least Ned didn't sign him.

I guess I would rather have Schmit on the DL not pitching than have him out there giving up 8 runs in the first inning. (I would prefer to have neither.)

2008-06-10 17:21:03
9.   ToyCannon
My Mom has told me since I could hear that the fix was alway in. My four brothers and Dad always laughed it off as the talk of someone who didn't understand sports.
Maybe she understood professional sports more then I realized.
2008-06-10 17:21:22
10.   Zak
5 Anyone who thought that the referee scandal would be limited to one referee and that there are no further issues (David Stern) is either lying or naive.
2008-06-10 17:24:43
11.   Zak
9 Actually, if you are not conditioned to watching say parts and pieces of 40-50 NBA games a year, you can see the disparity in calls between stars and non-stars.

Let me ask two questions that I don't know the answer to... would it surprise anyone if the Gasol deal was engineered by more than just the Lakers and Grizzlies? Or, is the NBA better served if Kobe is not with the Lakers?

2008-06-10 17:27:05
12.   D4P
would it surprise anyone if the Gasol deal was engineered by more than just the Lakers and Grizzlies?

And let's not forget the Kevin Garnett deal, in which the Celtics had to give up, um, well, uh, some guys.

2008-06-10 17:27:37
13.   Bob Timmermann
For your perusal, courtesy of Blue Notes:


Pierre 7
Ethier 9
Kent 4
Martin 2
Loney 3
Kemp 8
DeWitt 5
Berroa 6
Kershaw 1


Hairston 8
E Gonzalez 4
Giles 9
A. Gonzalez 3
Kouzmanoff 5
Greene 6
Huber 7
Barrett 2
Maddux 1

2008-06-10 17:29:17
14.   Zak
11 I really didn't finish my train of thought in the first paragraph. There is no doubt in my mind that there is a difference in how games are called for certain players and for certain teams. It just stands to reason that there are people out there who would exploit this.

In interest of full disclosure, I am a Laker fan. I read the Lakers news after I read the Dodgers news and I used to watch a lot of Lakers games. I don't anymore. Most nights I'd rather watch a Dodger game than a Laker playoff game. Tonight is an exception to that. I missed the comeback Sunday because I didn't even check the Laker score while waiting for the Dodogers to come back against the Cubs. However, one of my most cherished possessions on DVR is the Kobe 81 point game.

2008-06-10 17:29:40
15.   Zak
12 Agreed.
2008-06-10 17:35:11
16.   Suffering Bruin
Three posts adding up to three thousand words? Someone ate their Wheaties!

It's been many a moon since I've posted. Me a teacher, me have final exams and massive grading for many a student. Me tired. But me learn something while watching this here Dodger team and Ned Colletti:

1. The signing of Jason Schmidt was not at the time regarded as a mistake. That he would produce next-to-nothing cannot be held against Colletti unless you think he should've known Schmidt was going to get hurt.

2. The signing of Andruw Jones was a decent risk, IMHO though that means I have a different opinion than Rob McMillin and that's not comfortable. But Jones was coming off his worst year, we signed him for only two seasons... I mean, did anyone think he would be this bad? Not me.

3. He has not shown me, to date, that he can judge talent well. It took way too long for the kids to come up last season and this season he's grumbling about the kids and that's not Phi Beta Kappa, people.

4. His fault or no, the Dodgers have well over $50 million dollars doing nothing at all. One would think at some point a person would have to answer for that, either to the press or to the man in charge.

That is all. Back to grading.

2008-06-10 17:38:40
17.   ToyCannon
I go to Staples to watch basketball around 20 times a year, which is down from years past. I find no rhyme or reason to the officiating from game to game.
Then again I find the strike zone to be a moving target night to night depending on the umpire.
It bothers me, but not enough to kill my enjoyment. No matter what, in the end Robert Horry had to hit that incredible shot. He did, glory lives on.
2008-06-10 17:39:32
18.   Fallout
2 Bluebleeder87

I understand why signing Loaiza was controversial but I liked the acquisition at the time. The Dodgers were desperate for pitching and though it cost them a lot of $,(and no players) he was worth the chance. If he pitched just average and the Dodgers didn't fold, it could have meant going to the play-offs. Who else was available?

2008-06-10 17:44:25
19.   Fallout
Ned Colletti has to be given some credit for not trading some of the kids for Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis. Cabrera was suppose to be the answer to the Dodger 3rd base problem. The Tigers, winners of the quest for Cabrera, came to realize that he can't play 3rd. Oh well...they also got Willis. Oh, well...Maybe next year.
2008-06-10 17:46:07
20.   scareduck
LAT story on the NBA ref tainting:

Apparently orders emanated directly from NBA headquarters. Very timely story, IMO.

2008-06-10 17:46:47
21.   BlueCrew Bruin
11 I've always equated this to MLB umps giving guys like Tony Gwynn the benefit of the doubt when calling borderline pitches. Although it seems like officials can have more of an impact on NBA games than any other major sport.
2008-06-10 17:47:25
22.   LoneStar7
sorry if this is a dumb question, but what do the numbers next to the names in 13 mean.
2008-06-10 17:48:55
23.   Bob Timmermann
It's the player's position using scoring shorthand.
2008-06-10 17:49:15
24.   Alex41592

1 - Pitcher
2 - Catcher
3 - First Base
4 - Second Base
5 - Third Base
6 - Shortstop
7 - Left Field
8 - Center Field
9 - Right Field

2008-06-10 17:51:55
25.   LoneStar7
23 24 ah yes lol, i figured there'd be a very obvious answer, thanks
2008-06-10 17:52:54
26.   BlueCrew Bruin
23 Oohhh...I thought it was a mysterious code. I thought I was going to have to post those numbers every 108 minutes tonight to keep Andy LaRoche from getting hit by a pitch.
2008-06-10 17:53:39
27.   Bob Timmermann
And the shorthand is used on the official lineup cards that managers submit:

2008-06-10 17:54:48
28.   Jon Weisman
Furcal has another setback:

2008-06-10 17:56:42
29.   deburns
Re:giving stars the benefit of the doubt (or more). I seem to recall that some umpires felt that if Ted Williams didn't swing it wasn't a strike. Fallacious, at that, since it may be that, as Casey would say, "it's not my style."
2008-06-10 17:58:54
30.   Eric Enders
0 "Tonight, 20-year-old Clayton Kershaw faces 42-year-old Greg Maddux.
On September 2, 1986, 20-year-old Greg Maddux faced 39-year-old Nolan Ryan.
On April 18, 1970, 23-year-old Nolan Ryan faced 38-year-old Jim Bunning."

On August 25, 1956, Jim Bunning started a game and was relieved by Virgil Trucks.

On April 22, 1943, Trucks faced Mel Harder.

On July 30, 1930, Harder faced Waite Hoyt.

On July 24, 1918, Hoyt relieved Slim Sallee.

On May 28, 1908, Sallee lost to Chick Fraser.

On Opening Day 1896, Fraser faced Cap Anson of the Chicago White Stockings, who had played in the second professional baseball game ever played in 1871.

2008-06-10 18:00:29
31.   Jon Weisman
30 - Well, Virgil Trucks sort of breaks the format, but thanks.
2008-06-10 18:01:12
32.   JoeyP
12---Al Jefferson >>>>>>>>>>>>Kwame Brown.

And Furcal being out till the All-Star

What is actually wrong with his back?

2008-06-10 18:02:00
33.   Eric Enders
31 The Early Wynn trail (noted by Bob earlier) really didn't go anywhere.
2008-06-10 18:02:01
34.   Bob Timmermann
Nomar is going to be the everyday shortstop?


2008-06-10 18:02:02
35.   still bevens
Nomar at SS? Are you kidding me? Desperate times, desperate measures, etc.
2008-06-10 18:04:14
36.   LoneStar7
HA! Van Gundy just used Ned's line referenced earlier, or maybe Doc stole it first

But apparently he's told his guys they cant just be ready to play, but be ready to win.

2008-06-10 18:05:13
37.   Eric Enders
Assuming that Nomar can defend at least as well as Berroa -- which is pretty likely; they'll both stink -- then what's the downside of putting Nomar at SS? He might get hurt again? Big whoop.
2008-06-10 18:05:36
38.   underdog
Guess Nomar at short would be better than Berroa at short, no?


Just a reminder: The Griddle does have an NBA Champ game chat going on right now. Come, be a part of it.

2008-06-10 18:06:05
39.   Bob Timmermann
The Early Wynn Trail

It started in Washington and then went on to Cleveland and then to Chicago and then meandered around and went back to Cleveland.

Settlers on the Early Wynn Trail often spoke of hardships.

Such as having to watch some really bad Washington Senators teams.

2008-06-10 18:07:01
40.   Icaros

At least present the trade for what it actually was. The Grizzlies traded for Brown's expiring contract, not Brown. They would have taken me in the deal if I had $9 million coming off the books. They also got a first round pick and two young players in Crittenton and Marc Gasol who have real talent and potential, though they will not likely end up as stars.

For a team in total rebuild mode, it was not such a bad trade. They knew they weren't getting equal value, talent-wise.

2008-06-10 18:07:02
41.   Fallout
38 underdog
Who knows?
2008-06-10 18:07:09
42.   LoneStar7
32 yea but garnett>>>>>Pau

I mean while I think Pau was a more important need to fill, and a better fit for this team, I think most agree that KG is a better player

2008-06-10 18:08:22
43.   scareduck
37 - worse things have happened. For a change, Ned finally does something that might have a zip code of sensibility to it.
2008-06-10 18:08:39
44.   Bob Timmermann
For discussion of a game involving a ball with the stitches on the outside stay here.

For discussion of a game involving a ball with the stitches on the inside go here:

2008-06-10 18:09:16
45.   Eric Enders
39 It meandered over to Havana a couple of times as well.

The cairns and blazes were really hard to see underwater.

2008-06-10 18:16:43
46.   scareduck
37 - Nomar was just under league average by Rate2 at first base (97) in 2007. I actually think he has a chance to be appreciably better than Berroa, i.e. he stands a chance to be reasonably capable with the glove, and if he can miraculously squeak out a .230 average or so, than so much the better.
2008-06-10 18:16:51
47.   LAT
Over/Under on games until Nomar goes back on DL. (I know, a little premature considering he has not come off the DL, but what the heck. Its like a death-watch.)

I'm taking 24.

2008-06-10 18:17:53
48.   regfairfield
46 He was at -18, or the worst in baseball prorated over a whole season, in +/- which is a much better system.
2008-06-10 18:20:47
49.   D4P
Mets with a 58% win expectancy.
2008-06-10 18:22:14
50.   Bob Hendley
Going forward I think that Ned can be a problem to the extent that he thinks that he is the problem and has to do something to show otherwise. He is perhaps wise to think that he is the problem (bigpayroll, less than stellar results so far), but be that as it may, my concern is the misdirection and looking for scapegoats (first the pitching and now the "kids") and how that might translate into bad "moves" here on out.
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2008-06-10 18:22:38
51.   Bluebleeder87
I'll take the over, I don't know but I have a feeling he'll be o.k. at least I hope he is... he is so fragile these days you gotta wonder what is up with that.
2008-06-10 18:23:01
52.   Fallout
If Nomar plays SS I wonder how well he'll throw to 1st. He had some issues in the past when he regularly played there.
2008-06-10 18:26:42
53.   Icaros
SS is the one position left where Nomar's powerless bat doesn't make him a liability.

That glove, however...

2008-06-10 18:30:58
54.   underdog
Guess we'll be stuck with Berromar.
2008-06-10 18:31:41
55.   Bob Timmermann
My brother points out that Panama's rich soccer tradition is exemplified by the name of the stadium where the Panamanians are playing their World Cup qualifiers:

Estadio Rod Carew

2008-06-10 18:36:37
56.   Bob Hendley
54 - A know a group of shew-like pitchers that are not going to be happy about this.
2008-06-10 18:40:42
57.   underdog
The taming of the shew?
2008-06-10 18:44:11
58.   Gen3Blue
Jon, I think I got the intent of your piece about the relative importance of the young guys vs. Colletti perfectly and immediately. No problem.
2008-06-10 18:47:23
59.   Bob Hendley
Someone calculated in a previous thread that, as compared to Hu, Berroa does not make the 5th defensive play. Here's hoping that that particluar play is not the doubleplay ball hit with one out in the fifth inning and the bases loaded with, take your choice, pitching.
2008-06-10 18:52:45
60.   Doctor
So now that Furcal is will be out or diminished for 2/3 of his contract…. Can anyone name the last free agent signing that was a success by any Dodger GM? Maybe D. Lowe? This is pretty ridiculous if you look at the list of players who have come to LA and disappointed.
Is it our medical staff? or the pressure of the big market? or just bad luck??
2008-06-10 18:55:34
61.   El Lay Dave
Well, I'm stuck in the El Segundo / Westchester area for the next couple hours or more. I imagine the Laker game is showing all over the place, but I can't get up the energy to put up with the crowd. Anyone know a nice, quiet place to take in the Kershaw-led Dodgers instead?

Kershaw IV: Sudden Impact?

2008-06-10 18:56:12
62.   Bob Timmermann
Anyone know a nice, quiet place to take in the Kershaw-led Dodgers instead?

Petco Park?

2008-06-10 18:56:41
63.   El Lay Dave
60 Kuroda.
2008-06-10 18:57:09
64.   regfairfield
60 Kenny Lofton was pretty good.
2008-06-10 18:57:11
65.   El Lay Dave
62 LOL.

... nearby ...

2008-06-10 18:57:18
66.   Indiana Jon
Tonight's the night we really see what Kershaw can do. It's the right park, the right pitching match up and the nerves are gone. I predict 7 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, and 9 K.
2008-06-10 18:58:10
67.   dzzrtRatt
I've had back problems in the past and it's hard to have any "case" scenario about when it will be better, opti- or pessimistic. It just gets better or it doesn't.

But does anyone know how the injury occurred? Apparently, with that kind of prognosis, it's more serious than a "strain."

2008-06-10 18:58:16
68.   Bob Timmermann
I predict that Giles will draw two walks against Kershaw. The good Gonzalez will get one.
2008-06-10 18:59:32
69.   Bob Timmermann
Kevin Brown really wasn't all that bad of a free agent signing if Kevin Malone hadn't bid himself up.
2008-06-10 18:59:38
70.   El Lay Dave
60 Nomar's first, one-year contract for '06.
Kent's first, two-year contract for '05-'06.
Are you willing to count Saito?
2008-06-10 19:00:18
71.   JoeyP
If I'm not mistaken, for all the drama about JD Drew being injury prone:

He never went on the DL in 2004.
A broken wrist sidelined him in 2005.
He was never on the DL in 2006
He was never on the DL in 2007.
He's not been on the DL in 2008.

2008-06-10 19:05:02
72.   Doctor

Yea, all-in Kent and Nomar will end up looking ok at best, but I guess the first deals were ok.
Just seems like for such a big market team we have trouble bringing in players in their prime and getting good value. Maybe that's the nature of the free agent market, but I guess that's also why we have not won a playoff series since Kershaw was 7 months old....

2008-06-10 19:05:45
73.   El Lay Dave
Albert Pujols catches Nomar disease:

Pujols was helped off the field in the top of the seventh inning with a strained left calf he suffered while running out a ground ball.

2008-06-10 19:07:12
74.   Indiana Jon
I'll probably take a hit for this statement, but here goes. Nomar will be much more valuable than other options we have at SS right now as long as he can stay healthy. I'm not sure how well he can defend, but he's a better hitter than Furcal and always has been.
2008-06-10 19:09:43
75.   Eric Enders
Nomar is clearly nowhere near the hitter that Furcal is. But he might be a better option than Berroa or Maza.
2008-06-10 19:10:09
76.   KG16
74 - a healthy Nomar at short is probably the best bet for the Bums right now, at least until Furcal gets back. But I doubt he really has the defensive range to play the position any more.

And the thing is, I don't trust Nomar to stay healthy.

2008-06-10 19:10:32
77.   Indiana Jon
I've always loved to watch Greg Maddux field his position. It's amazing really.
2008-06-10 19:14:07
78.   Bluebleeder87
I think Nomar will be better than Berroa for sure too.
2008-06-10 19:14:14
79.   Andrew Shimmin
75- Depends on what you use as the baseline. Relative to a replacement player, sure Furcal is considerably better. Relative to a tube sock, they're both so much better as to be practically indistinguishable. It's like how your chances of winning the lottery are not particularly better if you buy a lottery ticket, or don't.
2008-06-10 19:15:27
80.   LoneStar7
flipped over just in time!
2008-06-10 19:15:37
81.   Andrew Shimmin
The only thing about Nomar playing again that excites me is whether he'll bat third or not.
2008-06-10 19:15:48
82.   Indiana Jon
75 The stats say differently. Furcal has a higher OPS+ than Nomar in one of the last nine seasons (2005, 102-97). Even last year Nomar was higher, although both were pitiful. If you want to count the small sample this year for either player, it would be two.
2008-06-10 19:16:25
83.   Bluebleeder87
Martin to the rescue, I was gonna say if anybody is gonna have a good day at the office it would be Russell if he stays with in him self & goes with the pitch.

Loney is another I really think Kemp will probably have a hard time with Sir Maddux at the mound, we'll see.

2008-06-10 19:16:56
84.   scareduck
48 - I find myself generally irritated with Dewan's +/- system.

1) It is not available in real time.
2) It is, at its heart, no more sophisticated than judging ice skating and every bit as subject to prejudice.

That is, it does not report facts but subjective expressions of opinion, which makes it only incrementally better than the old fielding percentage/errors system already ingrained into baseball.

The new camera-based systems that record actual ball position will undoubtedly be far better at this kind of thing.

2008-06-10 19:17:11
85.   Bob Hendley
Golden God, whoop, whoop, whoop, Golden God, whoop, whoop, whoop.
2008-06-10 19:18:52
86.   scareduck
84 - And, I could add to that list that

3) Because of the nature of the system, it is not available historically. But that will be a problem even with any new camera-based system.

2008-06-10 19:19:16
87.   LAT
Wow, I just noticed the Giants, the lowly horrible Giants are only 2.5 games behind the Dodgers. They are having a better season than I thought they would. Don't get me wrong, they suck but its a matter of degree. (Not sure what that says about us).
2008-06-10 19:19:53
88.   Bluebleeder87
Kershaws redemption...
2008-06-10 19:20:31
89.   Bluebleeder87
I'll take it back I think Kemp will be o.k. against Maddux.
2008-06-10 19:20:39
90.   Indiana Jon
I get much more excited for a Dodger game when it's Kershaw or Billingsley pitching. I'm sure I'm not alone.
2008-06-10 19:23:31
91.   El Lay Dave

Interesting word choice in pregame Gurnick:
Garciaparra has missed 41 games with a complicated condition that leads to calf muscle strains.
"complicated condition"?

Still languishing.
Meanwhile, Jason Schmidt seems to have hit another speed bump in his comeback. Torre said there is no timetable for the pitcher to resume his Minor League rehab assignment after he experienced discomfort in his surgically repaired shoulder.

2008-06-10 19:24:07
92.   Bob Hendley
90 - You are not. How is everything?
2008-06-10 19:24:13
93.   LAT
Not watching on TV but did Kemp fly out on the first pitch after Maddux walked the previous batter and fell behind to others. Sheez.
2008-06-10 19:24:13
94.   underdog
Too many fast balls in a row to start for Kershaw.
2008-06-10 19:24:23
95.   natepurcell
get. ball. down.
2008-06-10 19:24:52
96.   Bob Timmermann
New Gameday photo for Kershaw. It's an indoor shot and he looks less like Hershiser and more like someone for whom I don't have an analogy.
2008-06-10 19:25:13
97.   underdog
That was quite a lollipop from Kent.
2008-06-10 19:25:17
98.   Greg Brock
2008-06-10 19:25:23
99.   Bob Hendley
Well, it ain't Izzy and Cora.
2008-06-10 19:26:49
100.   underdog
87 It scares me a little, and they are doing a bit better than expected so far - so far - but it says more about how crummy and below expectations the rest of the NL West has been.

There's the curve! Just missed.

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2008-06-10 19:27:38
101.   underdog
Siddown Giles!
2008-06-10 19:28:16
102.   Bluebleeder87

he swang at a strike (he went the other way with it) but yea he probably should have waited at least a pitch or 2, I think he'll be o.k. against Maddux using that approach.

2008-06-10 19:28:47
103.   Bob Hendley
I am sure that Kenty wished that the kid was out there next to him, rather than Berroa.
2008-06-10 19:29:40
104.   Bluebleeder87
using the approach of going the other way...
2008-06-10 19:30:07
105.   Bob Timmermann
"I called it!"

(Balloons drop from ceiling)

2008-06-10 19:30:54
106.   Bluebleeder87
2008-06-10 19:30:57
107.   LoneStar7
boom! two big K's
2008-06-10 19:31:16
108.   Gen3Blue
Did Vin say one and one after the second pitch?
2008-06-10 19:31:19
109.   underdog
Siddown Kouz!
2008-06-10 19:32:34
110.   Bob Timmermann
Game back on in New York.
2008-06-10 19:33:10
111.   scareduck
96 - Ray Walston? With a smaller nose?

Throw me a bone, people...

2008-06-10 19:33:17
112.   Gen3Blue
We have to do the difficult(but not impossible now). Make Maddox throw some pitches. Not a good start.
2008-06-10 19:33:17
113.   Bluebleeder87
to barrow a Rex Hudler term, "he blew it right by you" Linda Ronstadt.
2008-06-10 19:33:42
114.   Indiana Jon
I wonder how many runs Maddox has saved in his career with his glove.
2008-06-10 19:35:37
115.   LAT
Angel avoids the sombrero in his first 4 Dodger ABs.
2008-06-10 19:35:54
116.   Bluebleeder87
Maddux makes it look so easy sometimes.
2008-06-10 19:35:56
117.   natepurcell
Those gonzos look alike....are they related?
2008-06-10 19:36:12
118.   Gen3Blue
Good job, men.
2008-06-10 19:37:29
119.   underdog
117 They're brothers, so, yeah.
2008-06-10 19:38:26
120.   natepurcell

hmmm...explains why they look alike.

2008-06-10 19:38:32
121.   D4P
DeWitt's OPS now officially under .800
2008-06-10 19:38:33
122.   Gen3Blue
But the top of our line-up did get Maddox to throw 26 or somewhere near pitches, and he is only good for about 90 at the most. I think the tone will be set by Pierre next inning.
2008-06-10 19:39:50
123.   Bluebleeder87
I thought I was in bizarro world to be honest.
2008-06-10 19:39:56
124.   Indiana Jon
121 At least Laroche is on the bench now. He's getting closer.
2008-06-10 19:40:07
125.   natepurcell

How long have you waited to post that?

2008-06-10 19:41:29
126.   D4P
How long have you waited to post that?

Cinco de Mayo.

2008-06-10 19:41:57
127.   regfairfield
34 days I'm guessing.
2008-06-10 19:43:46
128.   Mike Scioscias tragic illness
124- Per the Riverside PE, LaRoche starts tomorrow.

"Andy LaRoche was officially recalled today and is scheduled to start tomorrow either at first base or third base while facing left-hander Randy Wolf. Torre said his plan is to get LaRoche plenty of at-bats, and he'll use LaRoche to spell left-handed hitters Blake DeWitt and James Loney depending on who's struggling more. "

2008-06-10 19:44:15
129.   natepurcell

what about second base!??!!?

2008-06-10 19:44:50
130.   natepurcell
actually, lets just let him play shortstop.
2008-06-10 19:45:00
131.   El Lay Dave
129 Isn't Thursday a day game after a night game?
2008-06-10 19:45:36
132.   El Lay Dave
2 IP: Maddux 31 pitches, Kershaw 28
2008-06-10 19:45:39
133.   Andrew Shimmin
He's only got 97 PAs in which to the last hundred points necessary to keep me from having to wear corduroy pants to the DT picnic. So, I think the picnic should happen really soon, so I can get off the hook by default.

Alternately, I could renege. Which was always a good bet.

2008-06-10 19:46:45
134.   Bluebleeder87
at least we're hitting the ball hard. But I must admit we must hit 'em were they aint'
2008-06-10 19:46:57
135.   Andrew Shimmin
Clearly Berroa is slumping. Maybe he could get tomorrow off, to get right in the head. Martin could spell him. . .
2008-06-10 19:48:16
136.   Gen3Blue
Well, I admit it was bad luck, but we could have Greg for about seven innings at this rate.
2008-06-10 19:48:44
137.   Bluebleeder87

I actually own not 1 but 2 pair of corduroy pants, yikes!

2008-06-10 19:50:30
138.   Bluebleeder87
Hairston is right on those Kershaw pitches.
2008-06-10 19:51:05
139.   underdog
Why on earth do they keep throwing Hairston the high fastball?
2008-06-10 19:52:19
140.   El Lay Dave
139 Kershaw taking Penny's advice to pitch to contact?
2008-06-10 19:53:48
141.   Gen3Blue
One nice thing about this year, is how Kemp just looks better and better in center. To me his instincts and routes are getting closer to Jones, and looking better than Pierre.
2008-06-10 19:54:39
142.   underdog
140 - Gack, I hope not.

Just a few more of those Public Enemies #1, Clayton.

2008-06-10 19:55:25
143.   Indiana Jon
141 He looks better to me in center than he does in right. Anyone have a good fielding stat on his time in center?
2008-06-10 19:55:32
144.   underdog
Uh oh, the young mare is wild, someone tame him!
2008-06-10 19:55:43
145.   Andrew Shimmin
Hope Kershaw's got the signs down pat. If he crosses up Martin, Sam Holbrook may require a head transplant.
2008-06-10 19:56:04
146.   regfairfield
143 They'd all be small sample size.
2008-06-10 19:56:43
147.   Bluebleeder87
take your time Kershaw TAKE YOUR TIME you have the ball there for YOU control the temple (sp?) of the game.
2008-06-10 19:56:53
148.   Indiana Jon
146 I realize that, just curious.
2008-06-10 19:57:01
149.   Jon Weisman
Regfairfield, did you come up with doing the movie titles thing for Kershaw independently?
2008-06-10 19:57:11
150.   Greg Brock
It's been a real hoot having Kershaw up. Now can we send him back down until next April?
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2008-06-10 19:58:09
151.   Bluebleeder87
like Vinnie said that's a DP with anybody else playing 2nd.
2008-06-10 19:58:41
152.   underdog
I forgot how much I can't stand the Padres' announcer. Okay, back to the Lakers.
2008-06-10 19:59:08
153.   fanerman
Either Andy LaRoche, Blake DeWitt, or Chin-Lung Hu would have made that play.
2008-06-10 19:59:25
154.   Mike Scioscias tragic illness
147 - tempo?
2008-06-10 19:59:55
155.   natepurcell

Just let him do his thing up here.

2008-06-10 20:00:56
156.   regfairfield
149 Yep, I originally was going to just go with Kershaw II: The Quickening, realized it was a cliche so I also gave the people the Kershaw Harder option. I've run with it from there.
2008-06-10 20:01:08
157.   Greg Brock
Kouzmanoff for president.
2008-06-10 20:01:37
158.   Andrew Shimmin
In a just world, Dwight Schrute would slip a barbiturate into Kent's Gatorade, and lock him in Angela's freezer.
2008-06-10 20:02:17
159.   regfairfield
148 RZR has him at .932, which would lead the league in 2007.
2008-06-10 20:03:41
160.   underdog
Attaboy K'shaw!
2008-06-10 20:03:45
161.   natepurcell
I guess Clayton doesn't like his change up today.
2008-06-10 20:03:52
162.   Indiana Jon
It will be interesting to see what they do with Kershaw here soon when they don't need a fifth starter. The obvious roles for him would seem to be filled by Beimel and Kuo right now.
2008-06-10 20:03:59
163.   LoneStar7
zona takes a lead
2008-06-10 20:06:17
164.   Bob Hendley
Whoop, whoop, whoop.
2008-06-10 20:06:19
165.   Bluebleeder87


2008-06-10 20:07:33
166.   Indiana Jon
Again, he amazes me.
2008-06-10 20:07:37
167.   Jon Weisman
Bummer - Kemp smacked that.
2008-06-10 20:08:13
168.   Bluebleeder87
Maddux has cat like reflex's unfortunately for us.
2008-06-10 20:08:15
169.   Greg Brock
Fielding your position as a pitcher is worth a few runs. Darnit.
2008-06-10 20:08:26
170.   natepurcell
2008-06-10 20:09:28
171.   MMSMikey
classic dodgers, 1st and 3rd no outs, no runs.
2008-06-10 20:10:19
172.   El Lay Dave
171 How much harder did you want Kemp to hit that line drive?
2008-06-10 20:10:28
173.   Marty
Stupid Kemp


2008-06-10 20:11:06
174.   CanuckDodger
Does Kershaw LOOK like he is throwing harder than he threw in his last two games? His first game, Gameday had his fastball ranging from 92 to 98, but mostly 94 or 95. In his next two games, it was 91 to 94. Tonight, he's sitting at 96-98, and one fastball has been as LOW as 95, according to Gameday.
2008-06-10 20:11:14
175.   Bob Hendley
171 Huh, when's the last time we had runners at 1st and 3rd no outs? I consider that in and of itself to be an accomplishment.
2008-06-10 20:13:57
176.   Greg Brock
Throw Maddux the deuce!
2008-06-10 20:14:33
177.   Greg Brock
2008-06-10 20:14:47
178.   Gen3Blue
You had to know what Maddox would do to us, particularly in San Diego, and that probably goes for Peavy. But Kershaw will be really good in a couple of years.
Please don't let Kershaw bat.
2008-06-10 20:15:49
179.   Indiana Jon
174 He's 92-97 on the Dodgers broadcast.
2008-06-10 20:16:56
180.   El Lay Dave
Kershaw averaging 14.5 pitches per inning. That's about 102 / 7 IP pace.
2008-06-10 20:17:10
181.   Jon Weisman
178 - Why not?
2008-06-10 20:17:26
182.   Bluebleeder87

it does look like it has plenty of zip to it, I base it solely on how the batters react to Kershaw's fastballs, aside from Hairston he's pretty much blowing it by the other guys.

he just needs to place it better though...

2008-06-10 20:17:34
183.   Andrew Shimmin
I still say he's slumping.
2008-06-10 20:18:02
184.   Bob Hendley
Yes, Berroa!
2008-06-10 20:18:04
185.   CanuckDodger
And in the fourth inning Kershaw's fastball was a little slower, mostly at 93. I bet he got a lecture after the third inning about taking something off the fastball to improve his control.
2008-06-10 20:18:19
186.   Indiana Jon
178 He might look like he is struggling, but I'll take one run over four innings anytime.
2008-06-10 20:18:52
187.   Gen3Blue
I did like the way Vin said --grounder to Berroa--nice play by Loney

Nothing against Clay but I hate watching pitchers hit. Hey, nice bunt, I take it back.

2008-06-10 20:19:54
188.   Jon Weisman
186 - I'm confused - are people unhappy about Kerhsaw's performance? If Kent makes the play, Kershaw would have a shutout.
2008-06-10 20:21:27
189.   Indiana Jon
188 Not at all. I thought 178 was.
2008-06-10 20:21:51
190.   Bob Hendley
Seems to me that he is 100% more comfortable out there than in previous starts.
2008-06-10 20:23:25
191.   El Lay Dave
188 My pitch count comments are supposed to be contented remarks. 14.5 / IP from a 20-year old is good by me.
2008-06-10 20:23:27
192.   Johnny Nucleo
Here's another opportunity to test the "Kent is clutch" theory.
2008-06-10 20:23:44
193.   Greg Brock
First ball swinging. Mental mistake by Jeff Kent. He'll learn as he's around the game a little more.
2008-06-10 20:23:54
194.   Bluebleeder87
Kershaw is doing a very good job in my Opinion.
2008-06-10 20:24:04
195.   D4P
Veteran swings at first pitch and pops out.
2008-06-10 20:24:12
196.   Sharkie
Kent is a veteran.
2008-06-10 20:24:42
197.   El Lay Dave
195 Following a "kid" getting a walk.
2008-06-10 20:25:56
198.   Bluebleeder87
This is Kent's final year I wonder who will win the 2nd base gig for '09, that's gonna be an interesting side not for next year for sure.
2008-06-10 20:28:04
199.   fanerman
Seems like a better jump from Juan and he would have made that catch.
2008-06-10 20:28:19
200.   Mike Scioscias tragic illness
198 I'm assuming David Eckstein for 3 years, $24 million.
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2008-06-10 20:28:44
201.   D4P
Edgar Gonzalez didn't say "cheese" for his Gameday photo.
2008-06-10 20:28:51
202.   fanerman
198 LaWitt. Or DeRoche.
2008-06-10 20:29:40
203.   SoSG Orel
200 Nice.
2008-06-10 20:31:04
204.   Gen3Blue
I'm pleased with Kershaw'a pitching, I'm just frustrated with the offense. And watching Kershaw bat, well he has looked like a 20 year old who has been working on his pitching. But he shamed me by getting the bunt dowm. Again, baseball is this kind of game. At least two line drives that could have been game breakers have been right at people. Maddox may be the only pitcher alive who could have handled his!
I kind of hope Kuo affects this game, as well as others.
2008-06-10 20:31:32
205.   Mike Scioscias tragic illness
200 It'd be funny if it wasn't so believable, no?
2008-06-10 20:31:49
206.   Jiminy Cricket
199 I was thinking the same thing.
2008-06-10 20:32:35
207.   Bluebleeder87
Nice job, he'd be blanking them if it wasn't for PVL Kent.
2008-06-10 20:34:44
208.   natepurcell
Gasol is hilarious. He looks like a feral man beast when they show him roaring in slow motion.
2008-06-10 20:34:55
209.   Bob Hendley
207 - Those darn kids!
2008-06-10 20:35:46
210.   SoSG Orel
205 "It's funny because it's true!"
2008-06-10 20:35:56
211.   Jon Weisman
Wow, I can't believe this shift on Loney.
2008-06-10 20:36:36
212.   Gen3Blue
I've got a feeling if either LaRoche or DeWitt can figure out how to play 2nd, he will have quite a carrer. DeWitt actually appeals to me, for his size and some excellent defense this year.
2008-06-10 20:38:46
213.   El Lay Dave
211 Doesn't matter if Maddux doesn't throw him enough strikes.

Three walks by Maddux, two to Loney, one to Ethier.

2008-06-10 20:40:12
214.   Greg Brock
That was...Not close.
2008-06-10 20:40:15
215.   MMSMikey
unhitch the trailor, james.
2008-06-10 20:40:28
216.   Bluebleeder87
I'm just glad Loney didn't get hurt there. That was a nice throw from Hairston but Loney does not run fast either.
2008-06-10 20:40:40
217.   Bob Hendley
2008-06-10 20:40:42
218.   El Lay Dave
212 DeWitt is listed 5'11", 175. LaRoche, 6'1", 225. source:
2008-06-10 20:41:07
219.   natepurcell
At least that was a cool collision.
2008-06-10 20:41:18
220.   Andrew Shimmin
Some day soon, Bowa's going to figure out that Loney is slow. If only the team hadn't gone to China during ST, he might have done it already, and wouldn't that be nice?
2008-06-10 20:41:36
221.   El Lay Dave
A little surprised Maddux didn't pitch around DeWitt to get to Berroa.
2008-06-10 20:41:37
222.   fracule
That was lame. Plain and simple.
2008-06-10 20:41:37
223.   Gen3Blue
I thought they might have learned not to send Loney earlier this year.
2008-06-10 20:42:33
224.   Andrew Shimmin
There's the change up.
2008-06-10 20:42:47
225.   Andrew Shimmin
Two in a row.
2008-06-10 20:43:18
226.   fanerman
So, was Loney sent or did he go on his own?
2008-06-10 20:44:01
227.   Gen3Blue
Oh, yeah. We have had enough things not go our way that I wouldn't be surprised if we did miraculous things in the second half.
2008-06-10 20:44:29
228.   El Lay Dave
When I've seen Loney run, it almost looks like his legs are constrained by some unseen force, preventing his stride from reaching its full length.
2008-06-10 20:44:58
229.   Jiminy Cricket
watching Kershaw, I think he is wild enough to have batters gingerly stepping into the box. That fastball may just come at your knee.
2008-06-10 20:45:10
230.   Bob Hendley
Proctor up?
2008-06-10 20:46:21
231.   fracule
228 That unseen force is his not knowing how to run.
2008-06-10 20:46:31
232.   Jon Weisman
With Berroa on deck, I'd have sent Hurley from Lost to score.
2008-06-10 20:46:35
233.   Bluebleeder87
I like this move by Torre.
2008-06-10 20:47:37
234.   El Lay Dave
232 Snarky! Getting enough sleep these days?
2008-06-10 20:48:14
235.   fracule
232 I could go for an Apollo bar right now.
2008-06-10 20:48:35
236.   Bob Hendley
233 - I realized that just before I sent a snarky one about Bowa.
2008-06-10 20:48:38
237.   Bluebleeder87

he gets an A for affort at least... you guys see the determination in his face when he runs.

2008-06-10 20:49:15
238.   MMSMikey
why proctor? why not just put in kuo to mo guys down?
2008-06-10 20:49:16
239.   MSarg29
oh well
2008-06-10 20:49:33
240.   Greg Brock
Spike a 58 foot fastball on the first pitch. That's relief pitching right there.
2008-06-10 20:49:38
241.   D4P
Suggested nicknames for Loney:



Slow Knees

2008-06-10 20:50:20
242.   natepurcell
Scott Proctor annoys me greatly.
2008-06-10 20:50:38
243.   MSarg29
He's no Greg Maddux
2008-06-10 20:50:47
244.   Mike Scioscias tragic illness
Thanks for showing up, Scott. You can go home at any time.
2008-06-10 20:50:50
245.   MMSMikey
nice to see proctor brought his gas can with him.
2008-06-10 20:50:50
246.   Bluebleeder87
it's o.k. the run didn't score, just get us out of the inning Proctor come on.
2008-06-10 20:51:35
247.   natepurcell
He really, really annoys me.
2008-06-10 20:51:44
248.   Gen3Blue
In my mind, Kou was the key to this first half. But the Proctologist is a favorite of Joe's
2008-06-10 20:52:37
249.   CanuckDodger
Yeah, this was a good inning in which to bring in the worst reliever in the bullpen. Not like anything was on the line or anything. Good call, Torre.
2008-06-10 20:54:04
250.   fracule
I hope Kershaw is not watching and is halfway on his way to Zihuatanejo.
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2008-06-10 20:55:06
251.   Jon Weisman
248/249 -

2008-06-10 20:56:01
252.   Bob Hendley
238 - On the theory that with the with pitcher due up in the Dodger half, it would have been a short stint and why waste Kou. Proctor righty against righty and a K pitcher with a runner on third. If you go back to Jon's previous post, he noted a tendency to overuse Proctor and not get Kou into high leverage situations. (Torre factor)
2008-06-10 20:57:17
253.   Bob Hendley
250 - ZJ!
2008-06-10 20:58:01
254.   Bob Timmermann
Old friend alert!
2008-06-10 20:58:49
255.   Bob Hendley
254 - He used to live on Gothic?
2008-06-10 20:59:07
256.   underdog
Well that last half inning could've been a lot worse, I will say that. Poor Proctor looked a little rusty and out of it to start but picked it back up, and more importantly...



2008-06-10 20:59:51
257.   Bluebleeder87
yay, Peewee!
2008-06-10 21:00:00
258.   Bob Hendley
Berroa got some wood on that one.
2008-06-10 21:00:07
259.   LoneStar7
whooooo talk about a goof up
2008-06-10 21:00:19
260.   Mike Scioscias tragic illness
I think Delwyn just drilled Giles in the throat.

More importantly: Delwyn!

2008-06-10 21:00:37
261.   Bob Hendley
His PeeWeeness!
2008-06-10 21:00:41
262.   underdog
I wouldn't say Proctor has been overused as of late, would you? Torre seemed to have lost confidence in him (for good reason, it would appear).

Hey, that was Proctor's first error ever. Which is shocking.



Thank you, Giles.

2008-06-10 21:00:53
263.   LoneStar7
he was trying to show off and be mr casual...i love it! hah
2008-06-10 21:02:10
264.   Bluebleeder87
observing everything the guys at work said about the Lakers I kind of figured it was a given they would win at home.
2008-06-10 21:02:40
265.   Gen3Blue
Well, its a game where you tire yourself out hitting the ball too hard and get nothing for it.
Thats all I can take, I can't take no more.
And it's after midnight here.
2008-06-10 21:03:24
266.   larry slimfast
I wouldn't have brought in Kuo because following a hard throwing lefty with a hard throwing lefty is a bit of a waste but I certainly think Wade would be a better option than Proctor. But then again so would have Park or anyone else...
2008-06-10 21:04:23
267.   underdog
The end of that Lakers game was just odd... but we'll take it. Both teams checked out early, basically. But bless you, Sasha.
2008-06-10 21:05:10
268.   underdog
Weird. Hampson kind of looks like Scott Proctor.
2008-06-10 21:05:45
269.   Bluebleeder87
things are unfolding in Padre land.
2008-06-10 21:05:53
270.   LoneStar7
another blunder!! LETS GO RIGHT NOW
2008-06-10 21:05:58
271.   Bob Timmermann
Juan isn't going to throw that hit back.
2008-06-10 21:06:21
272.   underdog
Jeez, that was really sad. But, we'll take that, too.
2008-06-10 21:06:44
273.   Jon Weisman
For those on Gameday, it was a can of corn to left-center, but Huber may have lost it in the lights or thought he was called off. It landed behind him.
2008-06-10 21:07:43
274.   Bob Hendley
271 - That would have been a double, however, if Pee Wee hadn't been clogging the basepaths.
2008-06-10 21:08:13
275.   El Lay Dave
271 The other day Steiner said something like, "if he (some batter after a dinker) was a fisherman, he'd throw it back." Rick Monday said {paraphrased), "but as a baseball player you never throw any back."
2008-06-10 21:08:24
276.   ucladodger
this is just a super weird inning
2008-06-10 21:08:46
277.   underdog
Welp, time for Kent to do something other than hit into a double play.
2008-06-10 21:09:03
278.   Bluebleeder87
it's a shame, I really wanted Kershaw to get his 1st W tonight, oh well.
2008-06-10 21:09:31
279.   MC Safety
I loved Michael Cooper telling Bill Laimbeer to quit hating after Laimbeer said the rivalry isn't as strong as it used to be. Right before that he jokingly told Laimbeer we (Laker fans) hated him too after Bill said he was rooting for the Eastern Conference.
2008-06-10 21:09:42
280.   Jon Weisman
277 - Christian Welp hears you and agrees with you.
2008-06-10 21:09:45
281.   Bob Hendley
Come on Kenty, show the kids how its done!
2008-06-10 21:09:59
282.   MMSMikey
we are getting all the breaks right now, just hope it doesnt end in a double play. how about a 3 run double for once, that would be nice.
2008-06-10 21:10:02
283.   larry slimfast
274 i know that was tongue in cheek but young couldn't go anywhere. he had to expect that ball to be caught.
2008-06-10 21:10:34
284.   El Lay Dave
So, without the unfortunate wild pitch, Proctor actual gets out of that inning and strands the inherited runners, correct?
2008-06-10 21:10:36
285.   LoneStar7
do you notice how all the padre relievers are like stocky dirt bikers with goatees and chewing tobacco.

They all like a group of washed out san diego brothers lol

2008-06-10 21:11:05
286.   MMSMikey
2008-06-10 21:11:05
287.   Bluebleeder87
1st ball swinging, aahhh!!
2008-06-10 21:11:09
288.   ucladodger
Jeff Kent is a joke.
2008-06-10 21:11:57
289.   Bluebleeder87
Heath Bell looks like Broxton's little bro...
2008-06-10 21:12:10
290.   Greg Brock
Can somebody hit the piss out of the ball? Please?
2008-06-10 21:12:18
291.   El Lay Dave
Kent 2 singles, 8 APA, 3K, 1 BB vs. Meredith.
2008-06-10 21:12:27
292.   natepurcell
What is Jeff Kent doing this game?
2008-06-10 21:13:16
293.   underdog
284 - Yep.

And I agree, BB, "aaahhh!!"

We also would've accepted, "Arrrggh!" and "Grrrrr!"

2008-06-10 21:13:18
294.   El Lay Dave
Kent's AB should have lasted long enough to keep 291 relevant. Sheesh.
2008-06-10 21:13:28
295.   Michael D
Why Black taking out a right hander to bring in another right hander to face another right handed batter? Especially since the other one got his man on one pitch.
2008-06-10 21:13:36
296.   Bluebleeder87
Seriously, I don't mind him making an out but at least look like you know what your doing make him throw something, THE GUY HAS THE BASES LOADED BELIEVE ME HE IS NERVOUS, ah what ever.
2008-06-10 21:13:36
297.   Greg Brock
Jeff Kent is a fruit smoothie.
2008-06-10 21:13:50
298.   underdog
Sorry if I missed it, but is Andy available to pinch hit and/or come in the field this game?
2008-06-10 21:14:21
299.   underdog
Bud Black kind of drives me batty.
2008-06-10 21:14:27
300.   El Lay Dave
298 Yep.
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2008-06-10 21:14:40
301.   dzzrtRatt
Bell is like Broxton, except better.
2008-06-10 21:14:47
302.   Bob Timmermann
Meredith was in to try to get the DP. Bell is in for a K.

Kent would have more likely hit a sac fly against Bell than Meredith.

2008-06-10 21:14:54
303.   Bob Hendley
Well, he did stay out of the double play. Let's go Golden God!
2008-06-10 21:15:43
304.   ucladodger
Russell is the king of the world
2008-06-10 21:15:48
305.   Jon Weisman
290 - Close enough!
2008-06-10 21:15:53
306.   MMSMikey
thank the lord.
2008-06-10 21:15:58
307.   Greg Brock
Finally somebody who cares!
2008-06-10 21:15:58
308.   dzzrtRatt
2008-06-10 21:16:00
309.   Bluebleeder87
thank god for GOLDEN GOD.

look at 'em pump his fist, YEAH!!!

2008-06-10 21:16:02
310.   LoneStar7
2008-06-10 21:16:09
311.   Alex41592
2008-06-10 21:16:18
312.   ucladodger
Lol! Did anyone else see Ethier sort of pumping his fist to Russell? Very funny.
2008-06-10 21:16:33
313.   Jiminy Cricket
youth is served
2008-06-10 21:16:35
314.   Bob Hendley
Whoop, whoop, whoop.
2008-06-10 21:16:44
315.   MC Safety
Bison Time.
2008-06-10 21:16:46
316.   underdog

Golden God with another perfectly placed little nubber between 1st and second, second time today. Beautifully handled, Russ.

2008-06-10 21:17:07
317.   natepurcell
He didn't necessarily hit the piss out of it but it'll do!
2008-06-10 21:17:28
318.   MC Safety
307 That made me cry.
2008-06-10 21:17:37
319.   fracule
He crawled through 500 yards of [stuff] and came out clean on the other side.
2008-06-10 21:17:43
320.   El Lay Dave
Golden God!

Martin was 0-7 vs. Bell prior to that.

2008-06-10 21:17:43
321.   Mike Scioscias tragic illness
Turtle's 3-4, 3 RBI tonight. Kid might be my favorite player in 20 years.
2008-06-10 21:17:58
322.   MMSMikey
swing the stick matt.
2008-06-10 21:18:24
323.   Jon Weisman
Career high in walks for Loney this game.
2008-06-10 21:18:27
324.   underdog
The Pads' announcer sounds so depressed for Maddux that's he gonna get another no decision. No tears for Kershaw, Vasgersian?
2008-06-10 21:19:09
325.   Bob Hendley
I think that we all need to thank Kent for staying out of the double play. He always seems to do the little things. ;-)
2008-06-10 21:19:21
326.   underdog
That never touched the plate, whiny Padre fans!
2008-06-10 21:19:36
327.   ucladodger
bison speed! russell amazing baserunning!
2008-06-10 21:19:47
328.   MonkeyBlue
2008-06-10 21:19:49
329.   JoeyP
Does Martin ever not come through?

He's carrying the entire team.

2008-06-10 21:19:53
330.   Greg Brock
All of my future illegitimate children are going to be named Russell Martin.
2008-06-10 21:19:57
331.   Alex41592
2008-06-10 21:19:59
332.   Jon Weisman
Martin just scored from second in Kirk Gibson-esque fashion! A two-run infield single!
2008-06-10 21:20:05
333.   dzzrtRatt
Just your standard 2-RBI infield single.

I've never seen a Dodger player get more infield hits than Kemp.

2008-06-10 21:20:07
334.   bryanf
2008-06-10 21:20:12
335.   MMSMikey
great fist pump by russell
2008-06-10 21:20:13
336.   ucladodger
What a great slide by Russ. Absolutely perfect.
2008-06-10 21:20:19
337.   underdog

That's all I can say.

2008-06-10 21:20:22
338.   nick
nifty slide!
2008-06-10 21:20:32
339.   Bob Hendley
Oh, those darn kids!
2008-06-10 21:20:37
340.   LoneStar7
talk about a series of fortunate events
2008-06-10 21:20:47
341.   Jon Weisman
Shouldn't the ump move the bat off home plate in that situation?
2008-06-10 21:21:10
342.   MSarg29
2008-06-10 21:21:11
343.   Greg Brock
But the damage is done!
2008-06-10 21:21:13
344.   JoeyP
Killing em softly.

9 singles
1 double
5 walks.

This is a typical Dodger game.

2008-06-10 21:21:15
345.   Jiminy Cricket
these darn kids!
2008-06-10 21:21:25
346.   dzzrtRatt
Number of Padre errors that inning: 0
2008-06-10 21:21:31
347.   natepurcell
That was beautiful.
2008-06-10 21:21:45
348.   underdog
That was a great slide and great baserunning. The latter's not something I feel like I say very often about the Dodgers.

Hey, credit to the Bison for knowing he's going to have trouble and just smashing the ball into the ground, and running like heck.

2008-06-10 21:22:21
349.   Jiminy Cricket
you know, if the front office wants to trade Kemp, I bet his value would be pretty high right now.
2008-06-10 21:22:26
350.   MC Safety
Matt Kemp can absolutely fly.
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2008-06-10 21:22:33
351.   underdog
344 Except 5 runs isn't very typical, alas. ;-)
2008-06-10 21:22:51
352.   El Lay Dave
Havoc wreaked on the basepaths. That was a fine moment, a season-turning moment one could hope.
2008-06-10 21:23:01
353.   dzzrtRatt
All of my future illegitimate children

What name you been giving 'em up til now?

2008-06-10 21:23:23
354.   El Lay Dave
And the Dodger pitcher of record is ..... ? Yup.
2008-06-10 21:23:24
355.   fracule
341 Was the Barret in his way?
2008-06-10 21:23:40
356.   El Lay Dave
353 George Foreman.
2008-06-10 21:23:47
357.   ucladodger
And Ned spent $90 mil because he thought Kemp couldnt play center.
2008-06-10 21:23:50
358.   Terry A
330 - Strange-but-true Dodger Thoughts Factoid: All of Greg Brock's illegitimate children to this point have been named "Mel Rojas."
2008-06-10 21:23:54
359.   Greg Brock
Giovanni Carrara approves of Scott Proctor's firefighting abilities.


2008-06-10 21:23:55
360.   Jon Weisman
Nice catch Matt!

Vin: "Boy, he can do it."

2008-06-10 21:24:13
361.   underdog
349 Shhh! A fine conscience you turned out to be!
2008-06-10 21:24:30
362.   Terry A
353 - (shakes fist)
2008-06-10 21:24:35
363.   Xeifrank
WE: 87%
vr, Xei
2008-06-10 21:24:36
364.   Greg Brock
353 Ironically enough, I've been naming them Steve Garvey.
2008-06-10 21:24:56
365.   JoeyP
Sort of like the Cubs 7th inning on Saturday. Dropped balls, balls lost in the lights, weird hits...
2008-06-10 21:24:56
366.   Bob Timmermann
He should, but he probably was a bit surprised that there would be a close play at the plate.
2008-06-10 21:25:17
367.   fanerman
2008-06-10 21:25:23
368.   jasonungar07
Thank heaveans Kemp and Martin took those at bats seriously.
2008-06-10 21:25:24
369.   Jon Weisman
I thought the replay showed Beimel's foot on the base, but whatever.
2008-06-10 21:25:29
370.   underdog
Uh oh, here we go again, Vasgersian whining about Maddux's no decision for the third time.
2008-06-10 21:25:45
371.   dzzrtRatt
Maybe we could get Juan Rivera back from KC for Jones. Kemp's blocking him.
2008-06-10 21:25:53
372.   ucladodger
Loney deserves an error on that. Terrible judgement for a guy who has played the position for a long time.
2008-06-10 21:25:56
373.   bryanf
369 Looks like it to me too.
2008-06-10 21:26:15
374.   MSarg29
364 - Perfect
2008-06-10 21:26:44
375.   El Lay Dave
364 LOL. Nice.
2008-06-10 21:26:46
376.   underdog
Let it go, Joe! Just keep the ball down to Gonzalez.
2008-06-10 21:27:12
377.   Bob Hendley
Pads announcers blame Loney (kid) for that play. Huh?
2008-06-10 21:27:13
378.   Icaros
When did Kuo last pitch, anyway?
2008-06-10 21:27:39
379.   dzzrtRatt
264 Reminds me of when I lived in Berkeley next door to a woman who had four sons, all from different fathers, all named Jason. One of them stole my bike.
2008-06-10 21:28:21
380.   underdog
377- So does ucladodger.

Arizona beats NYM. Ah well.

Colorado beats up on the Giants at least.

2008-06-10 21:28:38
381.   ucladodger
Amazing play on both ends. Wow.
2008-06-10 21:28:44
382.   MonkeyBlue
DEWITT! magnificent!
2008-06-10 21:28:44
383.   LoneStar7
wow weeeee, a great stop by blake..
2008-06-10 21:28:44
384.   El Lay Dave
378 June 1 !!
2008-06-10 21:28:50
385.   Jon Weisman
2008-06-10 21:29:01
386.   Bluebleeder87


2008-06-10 21:29:01
387.   Alex41592
DEWITT! INCREDIBLE PLAY! And Loney with the scoop as well!
2008-06-10 21:29:01
388.   MSarg29
How did DeWitt grab that?
2008-06-10 21:29:10
389.   dzzrtRatt
DeWitt makes that play, the dive to his right, as well as anyone I've ever seen.

Was he known for his defense in the minors?

2008-06-10 21:29:20
390.   underdog

Nice pick by Loney, too. Sweet -- robbed him of a double.

2008-06-10 21:29:38
391.   Bob Hendley
380 - There is a Giants watch in effect?
2008-06-10 21:29:57
392.   bryanf
I love The Kids™!
2008-06-10 21:29:58
393.   ucladodger

Loney strayed way too far off of the base and took himself out of the play on a routine grounder to 2nd. That made Beimel cover, which is hard to do on a ball you arent expectingt o cover on, especially with the angle he had.

2008-06-10 21:30:21
394.   Bluebleeder87
Eric Stephen must be lovin' this game...
2008-06-10 21:30:31
395.   Greg Brock
The kids are alright.
2008-06-10 21:30:32
396.   Xeifrank
I wonder when Guo, arguably the Dodgers 2nd best pitcher so far this season is ever going to see game action, let alone a semi-high leverage situation??
vr, Xei
2008-06-10 21:30:55
397.   El Lay Dave
There have been a few times when I've been surprised by how far Loney will try to go to his right to make a play that I thought he should stop and go to first one, but he does have a limited-range player to his right usually.
2008-06-10 21:31:05
398.   fracule
385 Apparently win friends and influence people. (Some people, loud people.)
2008-06-10 21:31:06
399.   Bob Hendley
393 - Thanks.
2008-06-10 21:31:16
400.   underdog
391 Sadly, yes, for the time being.
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2008-06-10 21:31:51
401.   jasonungar07
379 lol!

and your GT or was it a redline or Mongoose was pretty sweet. Thanks.

2008-06-10 21:32:11
402.   sporky
These boys could cure cancer.
2008-06-10 21:33:04
403.   Alex41592
98 and 97 blow Kouzmanoff away!
2008-06-10 21:33:23
404.   JoeyP
Kouz has had an embarrassing night at the plate.
2008-06-10 21:33:23
405.   underdog
THAT's the ol' pepper boy! (said in Bugs Bunny voice)
2008-06-10 21:34:04
406.   Gen3Blue
Here is where the Dodgers could put it away.
Go Blue. At least see some pitches!
2008-06-10 21:34:42
407.   Icaros

I agree and would like to nominate this issue to the top of the DT agenda.

Icaros is getting upset!

2008-06-10 21:35:06
408.   El Lay Dave
404 The (swinging and) Missing Macedonian.
2008-06-10 21:35:39
409.   silverwidow
LaRoche next???
2008-06-10 21:36:00
410.   Jon Weisman
I can't believe it's only the eighth inning.
2008-06-10 21:36:07
411.   silverwidow
2008-06-10 21:36:23
412.   Greg Brock
I don't know what everybody is so upset about. Proctor pitched himself into a win.


2008-06-10 21:36:46
413.   sporky
I want to see Broxton on base.
2008-06-10 21:36:49
414.   underdog
Not a good start for Margaret.
2008-06-10 21:36:52
415.   Jon Weisman
They could have double-switched Broxton/LaRoche, but I guess Joe didn't want to do it right after the DeWitt play. Or he just couldn't be bothered.
2008-06-10 21:36:57
416.   larry slimfast
good lord broxton is huge!
2008-06-10 21:37:01
417.   El Lay Dave
Whoa, wait, Broxton wasn't brought in as a two for one?
2008-06-10 21:38:22
418.   Gen3Blue
This guy is such a lefty specialist. Have we got anyone who can bat for Pierre?
2008-06-10 21:38:24
419.   underdog
I wonder if the Blue Ox even knows what a bunt is.

Or is he only pawn in game of life?

2008-06-10 21:38:43
420.   Alex41592
Shouldn't that be interference Gonzalez was in Broxton's way. Not that I would want Broxton on the bases.
2008-06-10 21:39:04
421.   underdog
That was bad.
2008-06-10 21:39:04
422.   El Lay Dave
Well, Becky Thatcher took Torre off the (tiny) hook by walking Berroa (!) allowing Broxton an obvious bunt situation.
2008-06-10 21:39:21
423.   Bob Timmermann
The Angels beat the Rays tonight in 2:01.
2008-06-10 21:39:31
424.   Gen3Blue
That was awful---I hope Broxton has his control, because its allover for our offense.
2008-06-10 21:39:38
425.   El Lay Dave
I am slow.
2008-06-10 21:40:17
426.   underdog
Mark Mudcat Grant has the same "Oh my he's a big boy!" fixation on Broxton that gets Mark Grace all hot and bothered.
2008-06-10 21:40:31
427.   El Lay Dave
424 Golden God guaranteed another PA.
2008-06-10 21:40:37
428.   Gen3Blue
423 Excellent--thank you.
2008-06-10 21:40:38
429.   Bob Timmermann
But A. Gonzalez was fielding the ball. As long as he's completing the play, he has the right of way.

If he had thrown the ball and just parked himself in the baseline, it would have been obstruction.

2008-06-10 21:44:31
430.   Bob Hendley
429 - Bloody obstructionists!
2008-06-10 21:46:37
431.   Gen3Blue
Oh, my--that was a strike. What kind of game is this?
2008-06-10 21:46:54
432.   underdog
"99 Luft Balloons," indeed Mudcat. (His comment in disbelief at the radar gun speed on that heater from Broxton.)
2008-06-10 21:47:34
433.   thinkblue88

According to GameDay, his fastballs are 97-101 and his slider is at 91!

2008-06-10 21:47:57
434.   underdog
Nice try, Gerut. That looked like a clear swing to me.
2008-06-10 21:48:08
435.   Gen3Blue
He didn't go around. But he deserved to be called out on strike at least twice, so justice was done.
2008-06-10 21:48:28
436.   underdog
Wow. This is the best I've seen Broxton all season.
2008-06-10 21:48:53
437.   Greg Brock
2008-06-10 21:49:59
438.   CanuckDodger
Broxton: "Heath Bell is NOT better than me. That is all."
2008-06-10 21:50:05
439.   El Lay Dave
2008-06-10 21:50:11
440.   Xeifrank
Saito in for the 96% win expectancy save?
vr, Xei
2008-06-10 21:50:21
441.   underdog
I can't believe this is only now the 9th inning. PetCo is like the Land before Time.
2008-06-10 21:51:46
442.   Gen3Blue
If Broxton could develop an off-speed pitch that went 70 he would breaks some bones. And he could be a great starter! But no complaints.
2008-06-10 21:52:16
443.   El Lay Dave
441 The ten walks in this game have a little to do with it. (Shouldn't PetCo typically speed up games being such a pitcher's park?)
2008-06-10 21:52:18
444.   nick
in the box score tomorrow they all look like hits, baby!
2008-06-10 21:52:28
445.   Gen3Blue
Could the offense make an emphatic statement.
2008-06-10 21:52:57
446.   SoSG Orel
364 That is ironic.
2008-06-10 21:53:27
447.   Bob Hendley
Andre didn't notice that the guy was a lefty. Good show.
2008-06-10 21:53:31
448.   El Lay Dave
See Joe, I can hit LHP.
2008-06-10 21:54:40
449.   MonkeyBlue
Heh strange play.
2008-06-10 21:56:44
450.   Icaros
Haha...Vin just called Luis Maza "Louis Mays-uh."
Show/Hide Comments 451-500
2008-06-10 21:57:47
451.   scareduck
419 - Broxton's new nickname: Mongo.
2008-06-10 21:59:33
452.   MSarg29
Now the throw is off line
2008-06-10 21:59:34
453.   Jiminy Cricket
419 451 That is awesome. perfect
2008-06-10 22:00:00
454.   scareduck
Carlos "Che" Guevara coming in to the game for Joe Thatcher.
2008-06-10 22:00:19
455.   underdog
Oh jeez, Bud, I have to get some sleep sometime!
2008-06-10 22:00:26
456.   Bluebleeder87
I'm interested in seeing how Matt Kemp approaches this.
2008-06-10 22:00:33
457.   Bob Hendley
451 - Glad that is not in reference to 437 .
2008-06-10 22:00:40
458.   LoneStar7
hey hey joey whaddaya say....Big James 2-2 and 3 walks
2008-06-10 22:02:35
459.   underdog
451/453 - It does work, don't it.

Broxton ain't exactly a "who," he's more of a "what."

2008-06-10 22:02:36
460.   Xeifrank
I wonder how Kemp is with RISP? :)
vr, Xei
2008-06-10 22:02:37
461.   larry slimfast
451 Broxton definitely has a future in wrestling.
2008-06-10 22:02:42
462.   Bluebleeder87
Guevara has a screwgie. uhoh.
2008-06-10 22:02:55
463.   El Lay Dave
So Ethier and Loney both with hits against the LOOGY.
2008-06-10 22:03:36
464.   Jon Weisman
Please, no calling out other commenters regarding Loney or Texeiera.
2008-06-10 22:04:10
465.   underdog
454 - Yep, tonight's 7th padre pitcher will be played by Benicio Del Toro.
2008-06-10 22:05:09
466.   LoneStar7
464 sorry, I meant it in the friendliest of ways, apologies though
2008-06-10 22:05:20
467.   MonkeyBlue
why do they underestimate Bison speed? should have just ate it.
2008-06-10 22:05:20
468.   nick
it's a deadly weapon, the infield single, when used properly...
2008-06-10 22:05:42
469.   underdog
Another wacky way to score runs, but we'll take it.

Aww, and Saito can't get a save tonight.

2008-06-10 22:06:20
470.   MonkeyBlue
Corey is going to pitch now. I hope.
2008-06-10 22:07:09
471.   El Lay Dave
470 Corey has already pitched.
2008-06-10 22:07:10
472.   underdog
468 - "The Dodgers '08: Silent, But Deadly." - failed advertising slogan.
2008-06-10 22:07:31
473.   Xeifrank
No save situation, WE at 99%. Wonder who pitches now?
vr, Xei
2008-06-10 22:07:42
474.   El Lay Dave
Bison speed forced the error....
2008-06-10 22:07:46
475.   underdog
Wendell Corey is on the Dodgers?
2008-06-10 22:08:02
476.   Jiminy Cricket
Kemp is so big and so fast, he reminds me of the stories they used to tell about Jackie Robinson, how he would scare people on the basepaths
2008-06-10 22:08:16
477.   Icaros
Five run lead's gotta be Kuo Time!
2008-06-10 22:08:44
478.   El Lay Dave
Martin has twice scored tonight from second on balls that didn't leave the infield.
2008-06-10 22:09:00
479.   scareduck
472 - hydrogen sulfide has a way of clearing the dugout, though.
2008-06-10 22:09:08
480.   Bob Timmermann
Mark Corey pitched for the Dodgers. But he was blacklisted for a while.
2008-06-10 22:09:08
481.   arborial
4 RBIs without hitting the ball out of the infield has to be close to some kind of record right?
2008-06-10 22:09:33
482.   scareduck
477 - Cory Wade time.
2008-06-10 22:09:36
483.   Icaros
Oh well...this guy's another one who should be brought in before Proctor.
2008-06-10 22:09:54
484.   Gen3Blue
Our offense made a statement that said don't even think you can breach our defense.
We needed a lot of help from their defense.
Please hang on.
2008-06-10 22:10:22
485.   El Lay Dave
479 I read that happens a lot when Maddux is around.
2008-06-10 22:10:27
486.   underdog
480 Was that when Stirling Silliphant was their catcher?
2008-06-10 22:11:03
487.   dodgerkramer1
Considering his brittleness, shouldn't we take a pass on re-signing Furcal?
2008-06-10 22:11:19
488.   scareduck
480 - Damn the HUAC!
2008-06-10 22:11:53
489.   El Lay Dave
484 Are you feeling extra-Eeyoreish tonight?
2008-06-10 22:12:33
490.   underdog
Biggest surprises for the Dodgers this season so far, of the pleasant variety:

1. Chan Ho Park.
2. Blake DeWitt.
3. Cory Wade.

2008-06-10 22:13:07
491.   Bob Hendley
472 - Mongo throws gas?
2008-06-10 22:14:00
492.   scareduck
489 - No, that's my job.

My but it's getting Adrian Gonzalezish in here.

2008-06-10 22:14:09
493.   MonkeyBlue
Come on Wade end this already. No time to be careless.
2008-06-10 22:14:49
494.   Gen3Blue
Now you bring in Ho ar Kuo or Saito. right now.
2008-06-10 22:15:27
495.   underdog
491 If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad.


Uh oh, Wade's not perfect after all.

2008-06-10 22:15:37
496.   Icaros

I think the Gnome should be number four. The offense was good in those days.

2008-06-10 22:15:53
497.   Gen3Blue
Never mind.
2008-06-10 22:16:33
498.   scareduck
Pop go the Padres. Praise be to the Padres Outfield and Dancing Bear Squadron, without whom this victory would not be possible.
2008-06-10 22:16:48
499.   El Lay Dave
Our first look at the Berroa-Maza middle infield.
2008-06-10 22:17:27
500.   Bob Hendley
Everyone seems a little giddy tonight.
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2008-06-10 22:17:56
501.   underdog
We win!

Yowsa, for once the Dodgers and Lakers both win together.

496 What the heck happened to that gnome anyway? Either they forgot about it or its powers wore off and they should replace it. Maybe they replaced it tonight.

2008-06-10 22:18:53
502.   Greg Brock
499 What is everything you hoped it would be?
2008-06-10 22:19:33
503.   Greg Brock
502 *Was


2008-06-10 22:21:17
504.   dzzrtRatt
What the heck happened to that gnome anyway?

When it came out that the gnome was Greg Brock's illegitimate son, McCourt fired it.

2008-06-10 22:21:18
505.   scooplew
The Dodgers are now 20-0 in games in which they score at least 6 runs, 11-33 in games in which they score 5 or fewer runs.
2008-06-10 22:22:08
506.   Xeifrank
Does LaRoche start tomorrow vs LHP-Wolf? If so, at 3B or 1B?
vr, Xei
2008-06-10 22:23:47
507.   dzzrtRatt
506 Rick Monday was saying Torre said yes to LaRoche starting tomorrow. He didn't know which position. My bet goes on 3B because Loney's kinda hot.
2008-06-10 22:26:08
508.   Xeifrank
507. Ok, thanks for the info. I will run my sim of tomorrow's game with LaRoche in at 3B and take my chances. :)
vr, Xei
2008-06-10 22:26:47
509.   LoneStar7
504 that could be the funniest comment i've read in a while
2008-06-10 22:30:07
510.   scooplew
I think I like beating the Padres more than any other foe except the Giants. It began in 1969, the Padres' first season, when they swept us in a late-season four-game series in San Diego, dealing the Dodgers' hopes of reaching the playoffs a stunning blow. That was the first year in MLB in which a round of playoffs, the NLCS and the ALCS, was introduced prior to the World Series. We finished 4th in the NL West at 85-77, eight games back of the Braves. The Padres went 52-110, 41 games behind Atlanta. The Padres, despite being a bad club, were frequently annoying gnats in their early years against the Dodgers. San Diego finished last in the NL West in each of its first six years.
2008-06-10 22:30:49
511.   underdog
Did I miss something? When did Brock become Travis Henry?
2008-06-10 22:30:50
512.   Bob Hendley
With Kent sitting would have been a good opportunity for a start at second, but maybe testing the fates on the defense up the middle. Torre does seems to like to just throw them in into the fire.
2008-06-10 22:30:56
513.   CanuckDodger
507 -- "...Loney's kinda hot."

Cue Michael Scott: "That's what she said."

2008-06-10 22:31:16
514.   Jon Weisman
2008-06-10 22:37:33
515.   scareduck
Are other people having trouble with the Kershaw postgame interview sound breaking up?
2008-06-11 10:44:18
516.   Dusto
I wasn't going to read through 500+ comments just to find out someone already posted that when Greg Maddux "faced" Nolan Ryan, he did it as a reliever in an 18 inning game and Nolan was already out of the game. Neither of them took the decision and they hardly faced each other.

Are we a little obsessed with connecting the past with the future. I look forward to Kershaw being Kershaw, not Nolan, Maddux, or Koufax. No doubt he will have moments of brillaince, but to say they are the next "so and so" is kinda shallow. Loney isn't the Garvey, Martin isn't the next Scioscia, Kemp isn't the next ... (Snider?).

They could be so much more.

All in all I love this site and think Jon does a terrific job and I think he should deserve more than he does, particularly from the Dodgers organization. Not that my opinion matters, but it would nice if they heeded more of his recommendations instead of Plaschke's.

2008-06-11 16:16:33
517.   mountainmover

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