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Dodgers assistant general manager, scouting Logan White has some positive vibes about the Dodgers' 2008 draft that he expressed to Diamond Leung of the Press-Enterprise. And darned if there isn't some Moneyball residue therein.
A live chat with White, assistant GM, player development De Jon Watson and scouting director Tim Hallgren starts at 2 p.m. at Dodgers.com.
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Lakers-Celtics chat at The Griddle.
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Update: Hiroki Kuroda is getting an MRI, reports Leung.
"I would have liked to have been told sooner," Manager Joe Torre said of Kuroda, who the Dodgers signed this offseason out of Japan. I understand it's probably my fault the communication isn't as easy. I probably should have talked to him more, and maybe it would have been easier for him to tell me."
Just once
can't we figure out what we keep doing wrong
why we never last for very long
what are we doing wrong.
just once
can't we find a way to finally make it right
to make the magic last for more than just one night
if we could just get to it
I know we could break through it.
Ohh ohhh
When "they" say it's a good draft, I wonder if Logan disagrees.
170. dzzrtRatt
Diamond Leung is a model 21st century journalist. He is to baseball reporting what Politico.com is to politics. He makes the Times look stodgy and slow (not hard to do.) I think he reads this blog for market research, which is what all the paid reporters ought to be doing. He asks the questions you all would ask.
I've probably purchased the P-E twice in my life, both times at a Denny's. But he's getting them page views from all over the country. I hope his ad dept. knows how to monetize that (they probably don't.)
Pierre, LF
DeWitt, 3B
Kent, 2B
Martin, C
Loney, 1B
Kemp, CF
Ethier, RF
Berroa, SS
Billingsley, P
And it's not as if he's gonna say he did a bad job or that the players he drafted aren't any good.
Not that he is not a good player, but can't we jettison Jeff Kent for a B- minor leaguer to the Cubs if we fall further out of contention?
I want to see Loney/LaRoche/Dewitt/anyonewhocanslugover.400 in the infield
But expectations and perceptions of his job performance presumably go hand in hand. Why would he want to make it sound like he could have done a better job than he did? If the players don't eventually pan out, he can blame someone other than himself. But if the players weren't very good to start with, that's pretty much his fault.
Actually, I think the LA Times gets a bad rap more for their columnists rather than their beat reporting coverage. But also, given their prominence, more is expected from the Times.
Probably the most notoriously bungled firing in the history of pro sports occurred in December 1976, when Chicago Blackhawk owner Bill Wirtz had someone shove a note under Billy Reay 's apartment door. Reay had been the Hawks' coach for 13� seasons. The note, which was found by his wife, informed Reay not only that he was dismissed as the team's coach but also that he was no longer part of the organization. This was three days before Christmas.
That is ICE COLD.
Besides, doesn't anyone remember that Stults is a better pinch hitter then Sweeney. Really, the boy can hit.
Right, you can't blame the pick, for two years it looked like genius. Remember this kid was Kershaw before Kershaw and he was drafted much later. What he did in his AA debut is still mind boggling to me which just makes his demise all the more painful.
Basically, if you have to reach far enough to identify Miller as a first-round (actually sandwich round) flop, then you're talking about someone with a spotless draft record. Preston Mattingly would have been a better example, although the jury's probably still out on that one.
My wife will be very unhappy. I don't think she has gotten over Tim Russert yet.
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He certainly has made mistakes but why should he talk about them. That is our job.
http://tinyurl.com/5mx2ey
Question: do "way", "shape", and "form" cover all possible permutations in these kinds of situations? And how does "shape" differ from "form"?
My dad used that alot. I tend to use it so much my wife hates it. When you have been married 18 years, just about anything you do that is repetitive tends to irritate the spouse.
Still no matter what happens, I doubt he's going to end up better than Joba.
The fellow comes to camp after following a self-prescribed regime that conveniently meant that he could stuff his face during the winter. He looked lumbering in ST, not swinging well, but getting some walks so his OPB didn't look so bad.
So the season starts and, at least to me, the first week indicated that something was not happening. Ok, so the question becomes, what do you do. The Torre solution was to keep trotting him out there and watch him flail away night after night, sometimes in the second spot, until, as least one post here was suggesting, he hurt himself.
I hope there is a better plan next time around.
vr, Xei
"I would have liked to have been told sooner," Manager Joe Torre said of Kuroda, who the Dodgers signed this offseason out of Japan. I understand it's probably my fault the communication isn't as easy. I probably should have talked to him more, and maybe it would have been easier for him to tell me."
vr, Xei
vr, Xei
These guys all have egos and they believe that they can play through the pain. And I think to some extent, some pain is part of the job, pitchers get sore shoulders and arms and they just figure it will get better during their down time.
Kuroda threw one of the best games I have ever personally seen pitched against the Cubs and now he's says he's sore.
So, I can't blame the management for not knowing that Kuroda is hurting, he's has to tell them whether or not Joe's knows enough Japanese to ask him.
I can't think of a time when management just ignored someone being hurt if they knew it.
And does poor performance automatically mean someone is hurt?
So yes, someone needs to speak up but that has to be 99% the player's responsibility unless the team knows about the injury.
As much as this irritates you, I think you should make it an honorary site rule.
YOU"RE MAD AS HELL AND YOU"RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!!!!!!
83 Should we open our windows before shouting that?
If there is genuinely something with Kuroda, then noone gets the ax.
Lowe/Kent get traded and we look ahead to 2009.
But it's not 99 percent on the player. You don't think these baseball experts who spend their lives studying mechanics can't ever tell when a pitcher isn't right?
The notion that management hasn't ignored someone being hurt ... I'm sure that isn't true.
Can the Jones naysayers tell us which of Dunn, Burrell, Teixeira will be the next FA flop?
I'd say none have as great of chance as Andruw Jones did.
All 3 have not thrown their body around in CF for 12+ years.
All 3 have much better patience than Andruw Jones did--a skill that holds better with age than does power (even though all 3 have both).
Sounds like joe has communication problems.
50. There was a problem in being able to sign Jaba, IIRC boras is his agent and the last time White drafted a boras client it was a mess so he decided to stay away from him. BTW Greg Miller is still young, 21 or 22, so could still make it to the show if he can regain the form he had before the shoulder injury. Before that he was AMAZING. If there was a choice between Miller sans injury or Kershaw, I'd take Miller hands down.
Furcal, Rafael. 2007.
93 Yeah, wonder what that is.
Dodger scouts must own radar guns no?
I refuse to acknowledge that Kuo cannot pitch in a regular rotation if they just stick him in one and let him pitch. So what if his arm falls off, get what you can before it does. Babying him does none of us any good. Either blow his arm out or find out if he is physically strong enough to help this team.
Wait a minute! Orosco pitched in more games (1,252) than any Major League in history. How can you project that on a 23 year old minor leaguer with two major shoulder surgeries in three years?
108 At first I read that as Griffey was sick on the way home from work. Thought, doesn't he work at the ballpark? Oh, I get it...!
The shoulder surgeries were not major. They were different in that one involved shaving his shoulder blade as I recall, and the other was also bizarre but were not talking Labrum or TJ.
If he can cut his rate slightly, to, say, two-thirds of a walk per inning, he has a chance at a significant major league career. Fifty-eight guys have had careers of at least 100 innings with that walk rate, including some pretty significant pitchers like Tommy Byrne, Herb Score, and Mitch Williams.
If he could cut his walk rate even further to only half a walk per inning -- well, that's still a pretty bad walk rate, but there are 635 pitchers who have lasted at least 100 innings with that walk rate. This includes guys like Sam McDowell, Allie Reynolds, Johnny Vander Meer, Armando Benitez, Chad Billingsley, and Nolan Ryan.
And of course, Miller has an advantage over most of these guys because he's left-handed.
Quit letting facts get in the way of a dream. The Polar Bear is going to be our Wagner without the playoff implosions.
But I feel bad when I neglect DT. So best wishes, and I hope the D's can turn it around. I hope to return in good shape soon.
Maybe you are to young to have seen Orosco pitch, but he had some nasty stuff in his prime.
Nice Ab.
(sigh)
He walked 8 in his last game. If he threw a perfect game at us we would have to turn in our Dodger fan credentials.
No a no no is always possible these days, except we can always count on Pierre or Kemp to beat out at least infield hit.
Drat, I thought DeWitt had a DeHit there for a second.
I remember a time when he looked like the best LHRP I'd ever seen.
In case you were wondering.
Blake DeWitt is now in the same company as Andruw Jones and Matt Kemp.
Sigh.
171 Hey I used to watch it when I was 8 or whatever, too. And Three's Company. And Dukes of Hazard. I am not ashamed to admit that. But would be ashamed if I said I still thought those shows were good.
Many blogs provide commentary or news on a particular subject; others function as more personal online diaries. A typical blog combines text, images, and links to other blogs, web pages, and other media related to its topic. The ability for readers to leave comments in an interactive format is an important part of many blogs. Most blogs are primarily textual, although some focus on art (artlog), photographs (photoblog), sketchblog, videos (vlog), music (MP3 blog), audio (podcasting) are part of a wider network of social media. Micro-blogging is another type of blogging which consists of blogs with very short posts. As of December 2007, blog search engine Technorati was tracking more than 112 million blogs.1 With the advent of video blogging, the word blog has taken on an even looser meaning of any bit of media wherein the subject expresses his opinion or simply talks about something.
Full history of blogs from Wikipedia here [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog ]
Personally, I think blogs are one of the best things ever invented {internet}
You can also get a free cap.
Unfortunately, I have the Facts of Life theme song running through my head now.
It's blog! It's blog!
It's big, it's heavy, it's wood!
It's blog! It's blog!
It's better than bad, it's good!
-- with apologies to Jim Kricfalusi.
as long as we're at meeting things, I saw "The Incredible Hulk" this Sat. & loved it, that's right! I loved it!! & I ain't ashamed to admit it.
Well for a second I thought that was a base hit. Ah well.
196 No, even worse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Wonder_(TV_series)
also regularly watched Flamingo Road ;)
She's a smaaaaall wonder
and she'll make your (can't remember the rest)
la lalala lalala lalalalala
On another note, I'm all for adopting the term "Sporky's Coworker" as generic for poorly informed fan. What say you all?
210 That's grounds for a defamation suit! ;-)
I've already confessed my worst sins. (Well, not counting 70s/80s saturday morning fare...)
211 Kill!
Hey, why is everybody throwing things at me?
Well done, ThunderThighs!
I also watched Days for a while, never got into All My Children.
Jenny blew up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Nelson_and_Jenny_Gardner#Storyline
"As a testement to Jenny and Greg's enduring popularity, and their importance to soap opera culture, Delaney's character was given daytime drama's highest honor: she was killed off so that no other actor could be recast in the role"
I use to watch "Fame" for some reason, never liked it but kind of always tuned in for some reason, you guys remember the song???
Fame!
I'm going to live forever
I'm going to learn how to fly (High)
I feel it coming together
Let's not get carried away, we seriously need to score more runs.
I've read were Jon liked the show I didn't realize it was his favorite (good to know I guess) but that show was just brilliant, the writers, the cast everything fell into place with that show perfectly, the thing that made me love the show was how they had the older guy looking back at his life... I think the writers were genius at how they did that, just a great great show.
Bases loaded one out, 2 ground balls by Beimel.
1 inherited runner scored. First run given up by Chad to the Reds this year.
{exhale}
Okay, let's nail this one down Saito.
Now back to the Lakers.
Also, it turns out that Titanium is a crock.
For some reason, I never pictured you in glasses. Maybe it's the smoking. I never picture smokers in glasses.
Sigh.
add a little something more. a fastball in, the guys was looking away away...
Never heard back from them.
Might the Reds be interested in one Gary Bennett...?
On a somewhat related tangent, I was thinking today about how someone could probably make a lot of money (a la "Jared from Subway") by trying to make fast food look healthy. To wit: you intentionally gain a lot of weight, and take photos of yourself. Then you return to your normal diet and exercise, except that you eat a lot of relatively non-unhealthy foods from (e.g.) McDonalds. Then you approach the McDonalds big-wigs and show them the photos along with your new svelte physique.
Then they give you the money to be their Jaredesque spokesperson. I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet.
Thanks Loney. And Sammy.
And Chad gets the game ball.
Back to the Lakers!
Great game from Billz.
>>Joe Beimel got two big groundouts in the seventh inning to bail out Chad Billingsley, and heading into the top of the eighth, it appears Beimel fan Troy from West Virginia was hauled off by numerous security personnel at Great American Ball Park much to the delight of an entire section of Reds fans.<< (Read the rest on the PE blog)
You can't do that to our Troy! Joe Beimel will be mad.
"Jason Schmidt (shoulder) threw a bullpen session to Gary Bennett (plantar fasciitis) in Los Angeles,"
I wonder which was slower, Schimdt's fastball or Bennett's return throws?
http://yellow5.us/firefox/linkification
It's ver 1.3.4 at the bottom of the page.
I've downloaded it and it seems to work fine.
Milton Bradley pulls muscle, leaves game early.
One you expect, one you don't.
As a life long Laker fan it bothers me not one iota that Garnett, Pierce, and Allen are going to get their first ring. They deserved it, they played great as a team. And Sam I Am even sneaks in another. I wonder what the record is for years between rings. Not many guys ever played basketball as long as the Alien.
I'd love to see what Greg Miller would do in the bigs. He just might click.
I wonder how that squares with Americans who think we faked the moon landing or that the CIA planned 9/11.
There are lots of crazy people is my point.
I don't even watch reality shows, other than the ones my wife forces me to watch on TLC like "What Not to Wear." My frame of reference is the flood of bad sitcoms in the 60s that I felt duty-bound to check out.
Still, they far exceeded my expectations this season, so it wasn't a failure by any means. It just feels like they really could have taken this series. Oh well, reload with Bynum and take it in 2009.
the notables for me:
RHP Robert Boothe 22yrs- the amateur signed from Japan this offseason
RHP Javier Solano 18yrs- This kid is suppose to be pretty legit. One of his old HS coaches compares his stuff to Big Z.
LHP Michael Watt
OF Kyle Russell
Really intrigued to see how Russell adapts to pro ball.
311 Seriously! The dude is scaring me. He may love Beimel to death some day or turn into Travis Bickle.
He used to rant here, didn't he?
I don't think Radmanovic ever commented here, no.
http://tinyurl.com/5y2qbv
Baez has been pretty pathetic at Great Lakes so I approve the move for a confidence booster. I agree, Orr needs to start showing he can hit a little bit and Aguasviva had good k/bb rates in great lakes but was allowing a lot of hits. Things might have evened out in the long run for him but letting him find himself in Ogden isn't a bad idea.
I assume Ethan Martin will start out in the GCL and Lindblom out of the bullpen in one of the A leagues.
You know what I meant.
Color of sky. Godfather 2 lake.
He doesnt need to be playing vs those just out of high school.
I'd put him at Inland Empire.
He sounds pretty legit. Anyone have his numbers from the Sultanes on hand?
If I can use Radmanovic for a joke, at least he's good for something.
I'm a simple, petty man.
No way. The Pioneer League and short season A ball are where most college draftees start out.
Starting him at Inland Empire is going to result in like a 40% strikeout rate.
On Melvin Ray signing with the dodgers with quotes from his father. Its probably a good of source as any.
Ray is probably the best athlete in our system now. Another Matt Kemp type raw athlete.
Ray plans to sign the contract in the next few days, but his father would not disclose a figure. The Dodgers will pay for college, he said.
"(Saban) was very supportive," Ray Sr. said. "As a matter of fact, he left the door open. We're not closing the doors on (Alabama football). (Melvin is) going to take some junior college classes, so if he decides to go that route, he's still got the opportunity to play football."
I thought once you turn professionally in any sport you are not allowed to play collegiately in sports.
Bums purchased his rights from the Sultanes ($250,000). I don't see a record of him every pitching with the "big" club, being just 17. He may have gone to HS in Texas, not sure.
Chris Weinke, Ricky Williams, Josh Booty and so on. You just lose eligibility in that sport.
As others mentioned, Cedric Benson played rookie ball before enrolling at Texas.
Any 25 year old non-Mormon quarterback is most likely a minor league bounceback. Weinke was a millionaire at Florida State, strange only in that it did not come from the boosters.
Withrow didn't make the Ogden roster? Are they sending him back to GCL?
Not so. I remember a few year ago a kid, Kenny Lewis, turned down a scholarship to Virginia Tech to sign with Cincinnati. After spending three years in the Reds system he quit baseball and played for Virginia Tech last year and expects to be a starter this year (running back).
I saw Ricky play in the minors. He was basically the uberPierre. Fastest guy on the field. Beat out a ton of infield hits, but couldn't hit and couldn't throw. Also, he could never find a helmet that fit properly over his dreadlocks.
A woman sort of did that in response to the documentary "Super Size Me!". She went to McDonalds every day for a month to show how you can eat well there if you choose to. I think I saw it on Good Morning America
http://www.dietdetective.com/content/view/2994/150/
vr, Xei
Good evening all around, though, and the Giants lost 5-1. They loaded the bases with no outs in the bottom of the ninth, but failed to score.
Defensive Substitution: Sergio Garcia replaces shortstop Nomar Garciaparra, batting 2nd, playing shortstop.
At Las Vegas Nomar struck out in the 1st and homered in the 3rd and was then was removed from the game in the 5th.
Nobody??
1. Matt Wieters C (21) - 2007 (did not play), 2008 (High A)
2. Matt LaPorta OF (23) - 2007 (Rookie, A Ball), 2008 (AA)
3. Beau Mills 1B (21) - 2007 (Rookie, A, High A), 2008 (High A)
4. J.P. Arencibia C (22) - 2007 (A Short Season), 2008 (High A, AA)
5. Julio Borbon OF (22) - 2007 (Rookie), 2008 (High A)
I definitely believe Kyle Russell should start at high A next year if his play warrants it but Inland Empire this year is just way too fast for him.
Now, if Russell starts dominating the Pioneer League, maybe he goes to Midland but they could just wait until next year.
wed morning- optimistic after reminding myself they're ONLY 4.5 GB
http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2006/07/empirical_analy_1.php
I wonder if the run expectancy table has changed dramatically since the 1977-1992 period. I would love to see that.
Since he's out of options next year, and I doubt we want a bullpen consisting of Kuo, Miller, and Stults, this could be the last start Stults makes as a Dodger.
And he's "younger" in terms of ML experience, at least.
At some point Repko will be out of options, but he'll still be in Vegas.
Better a Stults than a Sturtze!
And that is why I am hoping my son inherits my wife's left handed abilities
j/k
http://blogs.chron.com/baseballblog/archives/2008/06/toxic_time_for.html
There is hope! But Pierre's RBI double has only solidified her position that Juan is good leadoff hitter.
of course when something like that happens to laroche he actually has to miss 10 weeks.
You'd think he was on the Dodgers or something.
Makes his victory all the more astonishing. (And playing in the Open probably kind of stupid, in hindsight.)
His contract was purchased in September 2006 and he was never sent back down (the minor league season had ended already).
Option #1 in 2007
Option #2 in 2008
So he's still with the organization next year.
http://tinyurl.com/3s2y46
Would've been nice if Billingsley or Saito made the Underpaid list that comes after.
http://tinyurl.com/3kfys9
Didn't know Bavasi had a saber-guy on staff. I get the impression they'll go the Josh Byrnes route. The winter meetings are going to start looking like a 15 year HS reunion. Ned and Gillick are the chaperones.
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