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Dodger Three-Run Homers, 2008
2008-06-20 21:33
by Jon Weisman

Matt Kemp, June 7
Gary Bennett, May 15
James Loney, May 3
Rafael Furcal, May 2
Jeff Kent, April 15

Kemp hit a grand slam April 26. The Dodgers have 12 two-run homers this year and 30 solo shots.

Comments (219)
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2008-06-20 21:40:02
1.   KG16
gah, my smart aleck comment got LAT'd.

Speaking of, where has LAT been lately? Or am I just being oblivious?

2008-06-20 21:40:53
2.   Zak
Jon, if this post is supposed to cheer us up, it's not the way I'd go.
2008-06-20 21:40:54
3.   Jon Weisman
1 - He said he'd be going on a trip.
2008-06-20 21:42:05
4.   Ricardo
It´s a shame that Sizemore didn´t say anything. It would be so funny! Vin is the greatest!
2008-06-20 21:43:19
5.   Jon Weisman
2 - Does it help if I mention we have two bases-loaded triples?
2008-06-20 21:44:28
6.   Zak
5 Half a smile - all's I got.
2008-06-20 21:47:17
7.   Zak
About Troncoso, I love that strikeout pitch of his. He got Sizemore on that same pitch. As a hitter, I don't see how you have any chance against that, unless you're just guessing it's not a fastball.
2008-06-20 21:49:15
8.   KG16
hang on... did that commercial just say the Dodgers have 21 pennants? that includes Brooklyn, right?
2008-06-20 21:50:39
9.   68elcamino427
Hey, Andy hit it hard again!
2008-06-20 21:51:53
Be patient guys, hes tired and hes a control pitcher
2008-06-20 21:52:32
11.   Zak
It said 21 pennants and 6 titles, so it must mean Brooklyn since they only won 5 WS in LA.
2008-06-20 21:53:52
12.   Daniel Zappala
I guess I shouldn't be upset that Torre didn't double-switch and put the pitcher in Pierre's spot, leaving Young in to play to LF?
2008-06-20 21:54:34
13.   KG16
11 yeah, i just checked the preveyor of all knowledge - wikipedia - and that includes Brooklyn. And that would have made the last 20 years even more disappointing.

also disappointing: looking at the '94 roster and standings.

2008-06-20 21:55:57
14.   KG16
does it seem strange to anyone else that the University of La Verne (my sister and brother-in-law's alma mater) is celebrating 117 years? Seems like a strange anniversary to commemorate.

(I ask because of the add behind home plate)

2008-06-20 21:58:07
15.   tjshere
With Martin batting for Ardoin, who becomes the backup catcher? PeeWee has already pinch hit.
2008-06-20 21:58:29
16.   Marty
Can Sweeney actually do something here?
2008-06-20 21:59:23
18.   KG16
15 - that's a very scary thought
2008-06-20 21:59:36
19.   Marty
2008-06-20 21:59:43
20.   scareduck
Why is this man on the roster?
2008-06-20 21:59:46
Torre sucks
2008-06-20 22:00:00
22.   Zak
13 Wow, Piazza was having some year, huh? Also, can't believe Chan Ho Park pitched on that team.
2008-06-20 22:00:59
He should have let Ardoin. Is it revolutionary to think a batter seeing a pitcher for the third time in a night might make it easier for him to get on base.
2008-06-20 22:01:12
24.   Daniel Zappala
17 Hence my comment in 12 .
2008-06-20 22:01:15
25.   68elcamino427
Looks like Sweeney pulled his right hammy reaching for the bag on that play, better get him to the DL ASAP!
2008-06-20 22:03:45
26.   scareduck
25 - you misspelled "DFA".
2008-06-20 22:04:23
27.   scareduck
If that's 50,000 people in the stands, my grandmother was a skateboard.
2008-06-20 22:05:39
28.   KG16
22 - if that year finishes, with the Dodgers in the Series, what are the odds that Piazza ends up in New York? Or that the Fox era even happens?
2008-06-20 22:07:17
29.   68elcamino427
I know, I know, but this way Joe can gracefully send Sweeney to the DL "never, never land" along with the real cause of all of the Dodgers troubles, Gary Bennett!
2008-06-20 22:07:28
30.   Andrew Shimmin
The Dodgers' American Association pennant gets no respect.
2008-06-20 22:10:36
31.   Jon Weisman
30 - You just made Timmermann and Enders very happy. And me, for that matter.
2008-06-20 22:11:09
32.   Daniel Zappala
30 Actually, we hold a commemorative picnic every year. You've just never been invited.
2008-06-20 22:13:08
33.   68elcamino427
Bison chases Indian off field.
2008-06-20 22:14:46
34.   El Lay Dave
33 You've just been waiting for this series, haven't you?
2008-06-20 22:16:36
35.   Andrew Shimmin
Loney would have taken three on that one, too.
2008-06-20 22:16:39
36.   ucladodger
This month Kemp and Kent have 1 walk combined. Thats pathetic.
2008-06-20 22:16:44
37.   68elcamino427
The old man is on fire!
2008-06-20 22:16:53
38.   KG16
I really hope the Old Man's play of late doesn't give Ned any crazy ideas come November
2008-06-20 22:19:43
39.   68elcamino427
This display by Kent just shows how very valuable he is RIGHT NOW in the role of DH on an American League club!
2008-06-20 22:20:14
40.   scareduck
37 - Old Man? As in, the Old Man and the C?
2008-06-20 22:23:15
41.   scareduck
They call him La Roche because he's built tougher than a rock made outta nails.
2008-06-20 22:25:36
42.   KG16
If Andy ends up on the same plane/level as his brother, would that be considered good or bad?
2008-06-20 22:26:44
43.   scareduck
I find it extremely bizarre that Fox is running "these gravely ill kids got to meet the Angels" ads during Dodgers games.
2008-06-20 22:27:58
44.   scareduck
42 - b.a.d.
2008-06-20 22:28:40
45.   Brent Knapp
Do you have any good ideas of who will start the most games at second base for us next year? Hu? Dewitt? If Kent maintains something near his current pace for the rest of this year he might still be serviceable at 3-4 million. I don't think he'll sign for that much though. According to it looks like the best available free agent 2B after this year is orlando hudson.
2008-06-20 22:28:46
46.   Andrew Shimmin
43- I think it's nice, at least, that the writers of Death to Smoochy got jobs writing the ad copy.
2008-06-20 22:28:46
47.   MMSMikey
does adam la roche often look at 2 fastballs then swing at a ball that bounces on the plate?
2008-06-20 22:30:19
48.   68elcamino427
Hemingway would have had Kent turn the trash can over, then Kent and the Bison would have arm wrestled for hours, their elbows supported by the bottom trash can, all the while drinking whiskey and smoking, as Gonzo and Loney took bets on the action.
2008-06-20 22:30:22
49.   KG16
45 - Kent will not be back next year. Not even if he played for the minimum, kicking half of it back to the club, would it be a good idea to resign him. Hu, I think, is more valuable at short. It will likely be DeRoche, it's just tough to say which half.
2008-06-20 22:31:01
50.   KG16
48 - say what you will, but Papa Hemingway knew baseball
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2008-06-20 22:31:29
51.   Brent Knapp
{38} Previous comment was aimed your direction.
2008-06-20 22:31:46
52.   MMSMikey
cory wade is rock solid.
2008-06-20 22:32:12
53.   KG16
so, do you use DeWitt for Berroa, or wait for the pitcher's spot?
2008-06-20 22:33:04
54.   Andrew Shimmin
If they hadn't been so hasty DLing Penny, he could have PH.
2008-06-20 22:33:05
55.   thinkblue88
Dan Uggla leading the majors in home runs.
2008-06-20 22:33:49
56.   scareduck
I have a question: is anyone here even remotely thinking about buying/capable of affording a Jaguar?

Oh, JoBo! Hope of hopes!

2008-06-20 22:34:42
57.   scareduck
55 - best Rule 5 ever. Well, maybe after Johan Santana.
2008-06-20 22:35:02
58.   KG16
56 - i've looked at them (not that I'm really in a position to afford one), but wasn't really all that impressed.
2008-06-20 22:35:02
59.   scareduck
57 - well, maybe after Roberto Clemente.
2008-06-20 22:35:14
60.   MMSMikey
thats a start
2008-06-20 22:36:09
61.   scareduck
58 - it seems like your 2008 Los Angeles Dodgers are rather heavily sponsored by a company whose products aren't really that accessible to the demographic watching.
2008-06-20 22:36:24
62.   Andrew Shimmin
I thought about buying a Jaguar Mark IX on eBay, once. But I didn't.
2008-06-20 22:38:22
63.   KG16
61 - i don't really pay much attention to ads at the ball park.

ninth inning rally!

2008-06-20 22:38:39
64.   Andrew Shimmin
There's one on eBay right now! But it's too nice, for me.

2008-06-20 22:38:41
65.   ucladodger
Our cable went out like 30 minutes ago. Ever since then we've scored 2 runs and have 2 runners in scoring position. Coincidence? i think not.
2008-06-20 22:38:47
66.   68elcamino427
Russell Martin, Dodgers MVP!
2008-06-20 22:38:48
67.   KG16
that looked like a home run swing on x-mo
2008-06-20 22:39:18
68.   KG16
65 - I'll be over to cut your cable line in the morning
2008-06-20 22:39:20
69.   Jon Weisman
56 - My dad.
2008-06-20 22:41:07
70.   Linkmeister
Out of idle curiosity, why was there a need for this new post? (I just turned the game back on.)
2008-06-20 22:41:08
71.   KG16
that was not the outcome I was hope for by The Solution
2008-06-20 22:41:14
72.   MMSMikey
blake just sruck out on a hanging spin ball
2008-06-20 22:42:00
73.   KG16
Dear Juan,

Don't swing.



2008-06-20 22:43:41
74.   KG16
huh, didn't see that one coming
2008-06-20 22:43:57
75.   MonkeyBlue
Woo Pierre comes through!
2008-06-20 22:43:57
76.   Jon Weisman
Have we nailed every pitcher with a batted ball tonight?
2008-06-20 22:44:11
77.   TheBigGrabowski
Oh wow. Pierre should try his luck in vegas.
2008-06-20 22:44:12
78.   68elcamino427
League leader with runners in RISP.
2008-06-20 22:44:15
79.   Linkmeister
50-foot base hit. Wow.
2008-06-20 22:44:23
80.   scareduck
Oh, man, that was brilliant. 4-3!!

69 - really? Wow. I have to believe Jag is casting a rather thin net here.

2008-06-20 22:44:35
81.   MMSMikey
dear matt, shorten your swing, lay off the breaking ball down and away, and try to drive the ball the other way, a homerun would be nice but we dont need it right now.
2008-06-20 22:44:59
82.   Andrew Shimmin
70- Loney came up just short of hitting a three run home run.
2008-06-20 22:46:11
83.   MonkeyBlue
Yes good job Pierre no DP right there!
2008-06-20 22:46:12
84.   ucladodger
2 walks this month for Kemp and Kent! Both belong to the Bison!
2008-06-20 22:46:19
85.   Linkmeister
82 Ah. Thank you.
2008-06-20 22:46:19
86.   Andrew Shimmin
If Kemp strikes out here, it'll demonstrate his immaturity, selfishness, and flatulence.
2008-06-20 22:46:38
87.   MMSMikey
the DP is now a strong possibility...
2008-06-20 22:46:40
88.   scareduck
An IBB against JoBo. I think this has to be a first.
2008-06-20 22:46:41
89.   KG16
crude, here comes the IBB, the only play worse in all of sports is taking a knee at the end of the first half in football
2008-06-20 22:46:53
90.   Jon Weisman
82 - Actually, that wasn't the reason. It was just something I thought about during the game. And, I was kind of hoping for a reverse jinx. I can say that now since the IW to Kemp ends the possibility of a 3-R HR.
2008-06-20 22:47:26
91.   scareduck
88 - I mean, an IBB against Kemp to get to Kent.
2008-06-20 22:47:31
92.   dzzrtRatt
Will jon's post be prophetic?
2008-06-20 22:47:43
93.   Jon Weisman
90 - Although, a sac fly by Kent would open the possibility up again.
2008-06-20 22:48:18
94.   ucladodger
That'll do.
2008-06-20 22:48:26
95.   MonkeyBlue
Ahhh Kent comes through!
2008-06-20 22:48:44
96.   TheBigGrabowski
Joe Borowski: Closer Extraordinaire.
2008-06-20 22:48:52
97.   68elcamino427
What a night for Kent!
2008-06-20 22:48:55
98.   dzzrtRatt
Whoops, just noticed the comment about Loney and the reverse jinx. I just got in.

Another no-decision for Clay.

2008-06-20 22:49:10
99.   scareduck
I wonder what the record for IBB's in a single inning is.
2008-06-20 22:49:25
100.   Andrew Shimmin
86 goes double for LaRoche.
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2008-06-20 22:49:49
101.   Jon Weisman
Available pinch-hitters include Maza, Kuo and Stults.
2008-06-20 22:49:54
102.   Linkmeister
Whatever. Maybe I can miss Washington Week now (what am I saying? Win now, not extra innings!).
2008-06-20 22:50:09
103.   KG16
Is there anyone in the room with Andrew? Given the situation and all, it might not be a bad idea.
2008-06-20 22:50:54
104.   dzzrtRatt
By the time Washington Week comes on in Hawaii, it's already next week.
2008-06-20 22:50:59
105.   Rob M
I wasn't expecting that first pitch swing from Andy.
2008-06-20 22:51:30
106.   dzzrtRatt
Some fan doesn't seem to like LaRoche's swings. I hear this guy almost crying.
2008-06-20 22:53:00
107.   Rob M
How do you get to be manager of the year without replacing Borowski as your closer with Betancourt or Perez?
2008-06-20 22:53:01
108.   Brent Knapp
90 is a reverse jinx the same as a jinx, like regardless is the same as irregardless?
2008-06-20 22:53:10
109.   TheBigGrabowski
101 I think I'd take Stults first.
2008-06-20 22:53:25
110.   Jon Weisman
Gave it a ride.
2008-06-20 22:53:26
111.   Rob M
Damn! He gave it a ride at least.
2008-06-20 22:53:43
112.   MonkeyBlue
darn it!
2008-06-20 22:54:11
113.   Rob M
2008-06-20 22:54:12
114.   Jon Weisman
111 - :)
2008-06-20 22:54:32
115.   LogikReader
Do I get to declare free baseball for our game?

Free baseball at Dodger Stadium!!

2008-06-20 22:54:34
116.   68elcamino427
Andy hits it hard again, just toward the end of the bat a little bit.
2008-06-20 22:55:28
117.   dzzrtRatt
I almost typed "he gave it a ride." Good thing I didn't. Oh wait.

LaRoche looks like a British matinee idol from a 40s movie. Devilishly handsome. Maybe his nickname should be Basil.

2008-06-20 22:56:23
118.   scareduck
Saito's numbers, as Vin reminds us, are nothing short of amazing. Dodger fans have been blessed.
2008-06-20 22:56:56
119.   scareduck
2008-06-20 22:57:06
120.   Rob M
The Hollywood Bowl firework show is going off right now.
2008-06-20 22:59:51
121.   Rob M
It's amazingly hot out still. I feel like I'm in Texas.
2008-06-20 22:59:56
122.   Jon Weisman
117 -
2008-06-20 22:59:58
123.   scareduck
120 - And I must say I'm grateful I live nowhere near that.
2008-06-20 22:59:59
124.   Lexinthedena
Just got home from seeing one of Fela Kuti's son's playing with Egypt 80 at the Cal the hook!

'Sup with Sammy?...c'mon!

2008-06-20 23:01:28
125.   scareduck
120 , 123 - expanding: I have a friend who used to live at one of the apartment complexes near Hollywood and Highland. She was trapped in her apartment (or locked out of it) when the Oscars were on, or the Bowl was getting out.

Oh, my, Saito.

2008-06-20 23:01:52
126.   MonkeyBlue
Oh Saito. Ain't so righto.
2008-06-20 23:02:04
127.   Rob M
Saito hasn't had that same magic this year. I blame me for having him on my fantasy team, which is apparently cursed this year.
2008-06-20 23:02:19
128.   ucladodger
Sammy has not been very sharp lately.
2008-06-20 23:02:31
129.   Lexinthedena
Oh great...a former Dodger prospect up with a chance to burn the Blue....
2008-06-20 23:02:54
130.   dzzrtRatt
...and the Dodgers need a triple play.
2008-06-20 23:02:57
131.   nofatmike
It's amazing how Saito still has an ERA below 3 considering how ineffective he's been this year.
2008-06-20 23:03:16
132.   MonkeyBlue
Or a DP!
2008-06-20 23:03:43
133.   MMSMikey
you dont walk jamie carrol...
2008-06-20 23:03:43
134.   Andrew Shimmin
I'm wearing eight year old glasses, but it looked to me like LaRoche had one of those lower lip beards (like J.D. Drew used to have) in addition to the 'stache. Is that just a shadow?
2008-06-20 23:04:24
135.   Jon Weisman
From Bob: IBBs in an inning record ...

2008-06-20 23:04:41
136.   Rob M
125 I live in the Hills just to the east, on the other side of the 101. From here I can always get around the traffic, but I know what you mean. It gets nasty down there.
2008-06-20 23:04:53
137.   dzzrtRatt
131 He hasn't been ineffective. He just hasn't been Gagne-esque. He's still one of the top relievers in the league. Check out the other team's.
2008-06-20 23:05:45
138.   MMSMikey
2008-06-20 23:05:47
139.   MonkeyBlue
YEAH BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-06-20 23:05:47
140.   thinkblue88
woo!! DP!!! awesome!
2008-06-20 23:05:56
141.   TheBigGrabowski
2008-06-20 23:06:03
142.   KG16
6-2-5 double play, don't see that every day
2008-06-20 23:06:14
143.   Lexinthedena
134 In prison they call the gotee the attitude, and the lower lip beard the pride...don't know why....

Beautiful DP!

2008-06-20 23:06:22
144.   dzzrtRatt
Next best thing to a triple play!
2008-06-20 23:06:27
145.   scareduck
121 - Yahoo says 79° at Dodger Stadium.

Sweet 6-2-5 DP, probably the first I've ever witnessed in my life.

2008-06-20 23:07:08
146.   scareduck
143 - and you know this, how?

Oh, damn.

2008-06-20 23:07:11
147.   MonkeyBlue
2008-06-20 23:07:17
148.   Jon Weisman
131 - Saito has appeared in 28 games before tonght, allowing no earned runs in 23 of them. In 17 of the games, he allowed zero or one baserunner(s). I'd say that's pretty effective.

Great DP! But Ethier, so close!

2008-06-20 23:07:22
149.   Lexinthedena
Ouch...that really hurts.
2008-06-20 23:07:23
150.   ucladodger
crap crap crap crap
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2008-06-20 23:07:23
151.   KG16
penthouse ---> outhouse
2008-06-20 23:07:26
152.   MMSMikey
well, at least thats not very demorolizing...ugh.
2008-06-20 23:07:54
153.   Linkmeister
2008-06-20 23:07:55
154.   Rob M
Darn, Saito! Squandering Russel's brilliant dp.
2008-06-20 23:07:56
155.   thinkblue88
2008-06-20 23:07:56
156.   TheBigGrabowski
2008-06-20 23:08:04
157.   dzzrtRatt
2008-06-20 23:08:13
158.   Jon Weisman
148 - My rebuttal of 131 was a jinx.
2008-06-20 23:08:26
159.   Lexinthedena
146 LOL....Relatives:) I myself have lead a straight life.
2008-06-20 23:08:39
160.   whodat807
Just as I was about to marvel at the glory of that DP, Saito coughs up a double. What's been up with Sammy this year? I hate to think it, but maybe this is the beginning of the end of Saito at closer.
2008-06-20 23:10:10
161.   dzzrtRatt
More on Saito's effectiveness. I mean, this rally sucks. It shouldn't've happened.

But are the Dodgers out of it? Not against this 'pen, if Saito can stop horsing around. The Indians don't have anything close to three or four of our relievers, including Saito.

2008-06-20 23:10:11
162.   Rob M
148 It could be just my faulty memory, but it seems like Saito has had a bunch of dominant outings in very low leverage situations this year.
2008-06-20 23:10:21
163.   ucladodger
Everything with Saito has been up lately. Same thing to Peralta. Upper thigh-high fastball.
2008-06-20 23:10:23
164.   Lexinthedena
Anyone else think that Corey Wade would make a great closer? He probably won't even get a sniff since he doesn't throw 100.
2008-06-20 23:11:02
165.   scareduck
159 - good for you. Leading a gay life is much more difficult.
2008-06-20 23:12:50
166.   68elcamino427
Saito's old, Broxton's young, whatta ya gonna do???
2008-06-20 23:13:07
167.   Lexinthedena
165 It worked out for the Flintstones.
2008-06-20 23:14:24
168.   scareduck
162 - well, he's certainly come in with few runners on base.

2008-06-20 23:15:04
169.   scareduck
167 - you mean, the Great Gazoo?
2008-06-20 23:15:06
170.   underdog
Kobayashi's in; the Dodgers should counter with Keyser Soze.
2008-06-20 23:16:08
171.   underdog
You can blame me for this if they lose. I didn't get to watch most of it, but tuned in to right after the Dodgers tied it and saw Saito's bad inning. Sigh. Nice comeback though.
2008-06-20 23:17:41
172.   scareduck
172 -

Flash of blighting!
Roar of blunder!

Uh... I'm working on the rest ...

2008-06-20 23:18:21
173.   Jon Weisman
162 - All I know is that someone's gonna have to show me more to indicate that Saito has been ineffective. It's not his best year, but 29 hits (20 of them singles, just one a homer) and 10 walks in 30 2/3 innings against 41 strikeouts is by no definition that I know of ineffective.
2008-06-20 23:18:22
174.   Lexinthedena
171 Same here. No fun.
2008-06-20 23:18:55
175.   LogikReader
I gotta give it to the Dodgers for making the comeback, although Borowski did most of it. I'm with everyone else. I think Saito is starting to lose it. I've seen more blown chances than saved chances, including appearances in tied games.

It's all part of the growing process, these games.

2008-06-20 23:18:58
176.   scareduck
This would be a good time for a home run.
2008-06-20 23:19:22
177.   underdog
Russell doesn't give up!
2008-06-20 23:19:51
178.   Lexinthedena
173 It's only because he hasn't been as lights out as the last two seasons. He will surely have more blown saves this season. We are spoiled when in comes to closers.
2008-06-20 23:20:14
179.   ucladodger
Wow, no RBI for Blake in his last 16 games.
2008-06-20 23:20:35
180.   KG16
Did Vinny just say that Kobiashi is "the solution" or did he use DeWitt's nickname?
2008-06-20 23:20:46
181.   underdog
172 Fighting all who bob or splutter!
2008-06-20 23:20:55
182.   scareduck
Cleveland has the wrong closer.


2008-06-20 23:21:37
183.   Jon Weisman
175 - Am I writing in a vacuum?
2008-06-20 23:22:05
184.   Bob Timmermann
I take the blame for this loss. If I had just let Jon take the credit for the IBB record note. I was staying away from commenting because the Dodgers had won while I was quiet. But I guess I wasn't the crucial factor.

It was just the Reds.

2008-06-20 23:22:18
185.   ucladodger

Expectation, more than anything. Sammy was probably a top 3 reliever in baseball the last 2 years. This year, especially the last month or so, he seems to always fall behind in counts, throw a lot more pitches than we're used to, and just work a lot harder to record outs. He's still been good, but doesn't have that dominant aura he had the last 2 years.

2008-06-20 23:24:08
186.   Rob M
173 I certainly agree that he's been better than average - it's just that he's clearly not been the automatic, shutdown, dominating, turn-out-the-lights closer we've grown accustomed to over the past 5 years or so. I'm spoiled, I guess. Not that I don't remember the hair raising Worrell or Howell or Neidenfeuer years.
2008-06-20 23:24:15
187.   KG16
well, time for Doctor Who...
2008-06-20 23:24:25
188.   underdog
Nothing like needing two do or die comebacks in two straight innings, pretty near impossible. Deflating but oh well.

So how did Kershaw look? Sounded like the bullpen was lights out after him. Was he off or just some good Indian hitting?

2008-06-20 23:24:47
189.   Lexinthedena
What a crappy loss. The team is looking better though. It's amazing what a difference a hot Kent and Loney make. G'night all.
2008-06-20 23:25:55
190.   underdog
184 Ah good. So I'm off the hook then? I thought it was me.

Well tomorrow's game isn't on Fox here in SF which is probably just as well, because it means then I can't watch it which means I can't be blamed if they lose.

2008-06-20 23:26:32
191.   Jon Weisman
185 - I completely concede that. I can even concede that he's given some concerning performances now and then, though usually they have come when he hasn't been used in a while. But if we're going to call his 2008 season ineffective, then we are too spoiled.
2008-06-20 23:27:04
192.   LogikReader
Either way, these games aren't bothering me anymore. I guess it could be frustrating because the Dodgers find more and more creative ways to lose, but at least we're running out the majority of the potential onto the field.
2008-06-20 23:28:13
193.   tjdub
I think the word "Neidenfeuer" is a rule 1 violation
2008-06-20 23:29:32
194.   ucladodger

I don't think anyone can correctly say its ineffective, but i think our eyes tell us he has been worse than what his stats say (not sure if i said that right). For me, his location has been a problem, especially with the fastball. Sammy has always been able to really pinpoint that fastball on the corners at the knees, but not so much this year. Without that amazing control, he works a lot harder in each inning and doesnt seem to throw as many breaking balls because he falls behind in counts. Just a little different than what we are used to seeing.

2008-06-20 23:30:18
195.   LogikReader
This really has been an awful month for sports, hasn't it? Between the Dodgers not winning a series all month (the Reds don't count) and the Lakers woeful NBA Finals, it is not a good month to be an LA sports fan.

Things could pick up though. Still got 1/4 of the month left!

2008-06-20 23:31:22
196.   PDH5204
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the OF play. Two balls that were borderline catchable drop in front of Pierre and Kemp, and then Ethier being conscious of those events plays too shallow and has the ball hit over his head.
2008-06-20 23:31:42
197.   Jon Weisman
194 - I think he's struggling some more, but if our eyes tell us he has been worse than what his stats say, maybe we just need to take a second look at the stats. If he's still usually effective even though he's working harder, he's still effective.
2008-06-20 23:33:55
198.   Jon Weisman
196 - Putting aside how correct you might be or not be at reading Ethier's mind, it's not like there were bad plays made. All three plays would have taken incredible catches. Even Pierre's, the most catchable one - he was charging and I think he was right to realize he didn't have a chance at it. The Indians hit the ball in the right spots.
2008-06-20 23:34:33
199.   underdog
Btw, I know it was commented on earlier but saw the reports on Jones and Furcal and both of those gave me a teeny bit of hope. IF Jones was actually able to come back healthy and because of the repair and recovery time maybe came back more like the Jones we'd hope for that would be huge for this team. Furcal coming back earlier (but not too soon!) would also be huge, obviously. I've learned not to get my hopes up, however.

195 Hey, the Reds series counts, I don't care what recent history with them is, it counts! But yeah, still a bummer of a month so far.

2008-06-20 23:35:38
200.   underdog
196 Yeah, I think there was some luck on the Indians side on at least one of those and the other two were not easier. Ethier made a valiant effort and I thought maybe he'd get to it but that was a tough play I thought.
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2008-06-20 23:36:32
201.   Jon Weisman
Anyway, I leave you all to it. Good night, everyone.
2008-06-20 23:38:15
202.   dzzrtRatt
192 I'm with you. I like seeing them score. I like seeing them fight their way back into a game. This isn't going to be a year they'll hang a banner in the outfield. I let go of that six weeks ago. But to see some good baseball -- that's more than enough of a blessing in this wicked world.
2008-06-20 23:42:15
203.   underdog
Poor spacebrother - someone needs to tell him what "NPUT" means. He probably felt like everyone disappeared from the party (previous thread). (I was just reading some of the later comments. Heh.)

Yep. Night all.

2008-06-20 23:49:19
204.   68elcamino427
A modest three game winning streak is all that it takes to make me happy with these Dodgers. Maybe they'll start another modest streak tomorrow. This was a good game tonight. A little bit here, a little bit there and the Dodgers win, but they didn't win. That's the difference between a team with a .569 winning percentage and a team with a .469 winning percentage. This Dodgers team is young and they are learning on the fly. The good news is that the Dodgers are only chasing the Diamond Backs. All that it takes to catch the snakes are a few modest winning streaks.
2008-06-21 00:07:18
205.   spacebrother

I haven't been here in so long that I forgot! Thanks for thinking of me.

2008-06-21 00:55:50
206.   bhsportsguy
Almost a perfect night at the Stadium, got sandwiches at Mario's in Glendale, went to the game with Eric Stephen, saw Bluebleeder at the game.

A few thoughts, some nice at-bats in the 8th and 9th innings. Going into the 9th, I was telling Eric that I like to figure out who can't bat in the bottom of the 9th if the game stays the same, I figured out it was going to be Ethier. But I really did not believe it could happen.

It was great to see Clayton pitch for the first time, a couple of hiccups but overall he's probably never going to pitch in relief.

Finally, if you are going to the next 2 games (I'll be back on Sunday), be prepared for a hot afternoon, it was warm all night.

2008-06-21 01:06:34
207.   Xeifrank
Almost 1AM and I just arrived back home from the game. Probably nobody still awake to read my post, but just a few thoughts from the game before heading to bed.

Cliff Lee was awesome. His control was incredible and he came as advertised. Kudos to him. Down 4-0, my father said things look bad for the Dodgers. I told him we need to get to the Indians bullpen as soon as possible and then we have a fighting chance. Luckily Betancourt and Borowski were used, both looked really bad, Betancourt in limited action. All the Dodger pitchers looked good except for Saito, something must be going on with his mechanics. Proctor looked very good after the first batter he faced. Proctor hit 96 on the stadium gun once, I didn't see any pitches register faster than that. The 6-2-5 double play was great, too bad Saito couldn't get the 3rd out before allowing the double. Ben Francisco made a bonehead baserunning play by heading back to 2nd base when the ball was hit. Ardoin made about half a dozen nice saves on balls in the dirt, mostly from Kershaw. But of course the obvious problem that comes with starting Ardoin is that the black-hole in the lineup grows bigger. I thought a big play was the failure of Blake DeWitt to put the ball in play with runners on 2nd and 3rd nobody out in the bottom of the 9th inning.

Our seats were pretty good, lower loge between home plate and the Dodger dugout. A foul ball landed two seats behind me. Closest I've ever came to a foul ball. It was very hot and muggy. The seats are wayyyy too small, especially on hot days/nights. Four of us had a row all to ourselves... well atleast we thought so until the top of the 5th inning when the La Raza gang bangers showed up and filled up our row. They were drunk and shouted plenty of profanities. Not exactly family friendly. They were leading many "Cleveland Sucks" and "Let's Go Raza" chants throughout the 2nd half of the game. Is it normal for people to show up to their seats in the top of the 5th inning, even on 740 start time games? It was just way too hot with all the body heat, so we moved 6 rows down where it ended up being much cooler. The concrete of the deck above us really kept the heat in. I would recommend they put in some fans (the kind that blow air) or something that sprays a cool mist from time to time, especially on hot days/nights. Also had a problem with one guy in our row who probably weighed 450lbs and took up his own seat and half of the two seats next to him. Also had a group of four sitting behind us with loud voices that were chatting about something other than the game the whole time (before we moved). Watching the game live in person is nice, but there sure is a lot to put up with. Getting out of the parking lot was easy as half the crowd had left by the time the game was over. I feel sorry for the guy who does the Dodger Talk radio show. 9 out of the 10 callers he had were clueless for the most part (hope nobody hear was a caller :)). On a good note, they did give away free Dodger caps, which will make a nice gift for my 3 year old daughter and one of her friends.
vr, Xei

2008-06-21 01:13:52
208.   bhsportsguy
What about that caller named "Bob" driving back from the ballgame.

I thought he made some good points, especially about Cory Wade.

2008-06-21 01:18:20
209.   bhsportsguy
202 dzzz were you at the game too, sounds like you were sitting right where Eric and I were sitting. Reserved behind home plate.
2008-06-21 01:35:37
210.   Xeifrank
208. 9 out of 10. :)
I especially got a kick out of the caller who wanted the Dodgers to try a squeeze bunt with two outs and bases loaded in the 9th inning.
vr, Xei
2008-06-21 07:24:07
211.   Johnny Nucleo
208 Could you paraphrase what he said for us?
2008-06-21 07:54:42
212.   bhsportsguy
211 Well, let's see, first he commented on he wasn't as disappointed in the game as some of the previous callers, sure a win would have been nice but there were some things in the game to highlight, the 8th and 9th innings, Cory Wade's performance, seeing Kershaw pitch. The phrase "consistent inconsistency" as applied to the team's youth was used.

Thought Andy battled back well in his at bat in the 9th.

Finally, the "Bob" that called was not a Bob that comments here.

It is a name just used for radio like Steve Mason and Lee Hacksaw Hamilton.

2008-06-21 08:11:01
213.   Bluebleeder87
false hope rally reared its ugly head yesterday, oh wel... But like I was telling my buddy at least there was high drama involved & the game it self was very entertaining, with the sub-plots of a young pitcher trying to make it & so forth it was just a great night, it was really cool seeing BH & Eric also!

Go Dodgers!

2008-06-21 08:19:21
214.   silverwidow
206 got sandwiches at Mario's in Glendale

Awesome! A couple of my co-workers introduced me to that place a few years ago and I was hooked. Incredibly good sandwiches, especially the salami.

2008-06-21 08:22:15
215.   twerp
Wouldn't you know it dept....three Dodger relievers before Sammy struck out 8, then Sammy, who had no Ks nor much of anything else, blew it. Kershaw's 5 Ks made the total 13.

If you can't win the game, win the stats, I guess.

2008-06-21 08:28:07
216.   twerp
A day or so back I said I didn't plan to comment again on Sweeney. Well, plans change. But I'll do my best to stay silent about him after this--

You can almost hear Ned thinking (is that possible? And I guess that question could be taken two ways.:))==

"I've seen what Sweeney can do, and we're fortunate to have a proven pinch-hitter like him on the team. He's just going thru a rough patch. With a little more time, I know he'll figure it out, like he always did with the Giants. He could even get hot and give us some good spot starts."

Note to Ned: the season is almost on three months old, dude. Sweeney has swooned. Swooney may be a former Giant and all that, but it is just flat out inexcusable for him to be on the team any longer. That he is says volumes about your own competence. And what it says isn't good.

DFA. him, and now! And since the team badly needs power, bring up Lindsey, or someone, most anyone, to take his PH role. Lindsey may be a AAAA hitter, but that level hitter with some pop is miles ahead of Sweeney. Lindsey may be AAAA, but these days Sweeney is BBBB, or maybe FFFF. And Lindsey has 15HR in 257 AB.....yeah, that's Vegas. But next closest to him has 7.

Make the call, Ned. It's obvious. Do it now.

End of current too-long rant.

2008-06-21 09:01:56
217.   Ken Noe
Anyone have ESPN Insider? I'm curious about Olney's comments this morning re: the Dodgers and CC. But of course, too cheap to subscribe myself.
2008-06-21 09:16:15
218.   KingKopitar
195 A terrible month for LA sports? The Kings got Drew Doughty!
2008-06-21 09:22:45
219.   schoffle
I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good baseball book, I am looking for a graduation present for my cousin, who just got drafted by Tampa Bay. He is not a Dodger fan, so I was hoping for something non team specific, all suggestions are welcome. Thanks.

BTW when to the game last night, and that out Andy made in the 9th was a screamer, man that would have been sweet.

And ga oranje (for the football fans)

2008-06-21 09:28:39
220.   Jon Weisman
Game thread is open early.

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