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After being told he was going to be optioned, Dodgers reliever Scott Proctor revealed his elbow had been bothering him for "close to a month," according to Manager Joe Torre.
I thought the point was to help the team. How does hiding information that would help a manager make an informed decision about what's best help the team? How does preventing yourself from being at your best help the team?
I understand the instinct. I understand the mentality. Doesn't make it right. And it is so, so tiresome.
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Fined and demoted works for me.
I got nothin'.
At least you get to watch the game.
Far be it from me to be sympathetic to the devil that is "playing hurt" but ballplayers have been playing hurt for eons and they keep playing through it lest they be accused of being called JD Drew. If my arm was hurting, I'd try to play through it. Tightness? Maybe it'll go away. Oh, it's been there a week? Let's check with the trainer. But for heaven's sake, don't let ANYONE, pardon my shouting, hear me complaining about pain.
Proctor, Furcal, Gagne, etc. ad nauseam... they all thought they were better off in the lineup than out. They probably didn't think they were hurting the team until after the fact, if then. It's the mentality I want in a ballplayer, even if its counterproductive. Put another way, no starting pitcher ever says he's tired, even when they are. It's the manager's call.
You want a shorter post? Read someone else. I'm back, baby. With a vengeance. It's summmer and I ain't teaching. I'll be posting.
A lot.
I've never known goats to be egotistical. Then again, there is nothing so ugly in personality as a goat with a God complex. So I get it now.
But our point man on effigies is in Cleveland right now.
His Juan/Jose Uribe confusion makes me sadder.
I've been thinking about this for a while: why not simply write into contracts the following stipulation: if pitcher P has X number of bad starts, as defined by Y, an MRI is mandatory?
This would be in the interests of teams, while at the same time getting around the stupid macho ethos of ballplayers..
Because Hendrickson would have died of radiation poisoning.
It's one thing to miss a game for general soreness, it's another to play with an injury that makes you a liability on the field. Especially if you're the manager's old favorite.
Saturday and Sunday's games vs. Anaheim will also not be shown. Plan accordingly.
Getting picked off of 2nd or 3rd is territory reserved for Juan Pierre.
Maybe I can bear Gameday for a while.
WHAT was true? That Abreu was injured? Or that he was faking it?
The Gameday stringer is apparently drinking on the job. Take care.
I'll assume he did something stupid.
Ha ha!
and I hope he doesn't steal them. That's just immoral.
Real weird, since he's a right handed hitter.
Somebody needs to tell Rick Monday that the Dodgers have a ways to go before they get to .500.
Ozzie?
How can you agree with Eric's post and still be okay with Neddles?
I got a new-style Dodger baseball cap at the store today, then put it on about 45 minutes ago. Then I check into the Dodger game and they're up 2-0 in the 1st inning. My goodness! have I started a good luck charm?
I just took it off for a bit, I hope I don't mess up the karma.
Anyone else have one of these new style mlb caps?
I don't know you figure it out, I just am...
Makes me homesick for the Blue Line.
That's really saying something, Bob, but the Blue line works well for the first mile or so.
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1972/B05200LAN1972.htm
Downing pitched a two-hit shutout.
Chicago was interesting. In the dispatch center, you could regularly hear calls from the bus drivers reporting passengers getting stabbed (or the drivers themselves being assaulted). Good times.
Lots of eary in the count hackin.
40 pitches for Stults thru 3.
Apparently, Franz Kafka has devised the system.
The PA on the train sounds like a McDonald's drive through.
I'm just saying, there's no need to pick on Cleveland specifically. If you're riding the New York subway you'd damned well better be paying attention to what's going on outside the windows because you'll never find out from the driver what stop you're arriving at.
"Proctor has been hiding the injury for well over a month and said that he was hoping to make it through his entire career without going on the DL. It was a nice mentality to have, but at some point, he was doing more harm than good and -- and this is just my personal opinion -- you would have to think his teammates would prefer him to miss two weeks than to keep hurting the club by pitching poorly while hiding an injury."
http://www.beloblog.com/Pe_Blogs/prosports/2008/06/dodgers-proctor-comments.html
I'd prefer the second, but then I was also the kind of guy who would rather be the last man off the bench for the varsity team rather than the star of the JV team.
He hasn't been as bad defensively as I feared. Offensively, he has.
80 Retrosheet credits all pre-1969 non-winning relievers who finish out a win with saves, regardless of the situation when they entered.
Honestly, I think Kershaw's improvement ark (for lack of a better term) will be higher if he stays with the big club the rest of the year than if he goes back to Jacksonville.
I'm a big fan of our very own Red Line, provided your travel is to mostly landmarks. I've used it to get from Universal City to Staples, Union Station, Langer's, H&H, etc.
Stolen base, Loney!!!
538/783/1321 he's actually been good the entire month but has gotten on fire of late.
Hopefully this won't be the peak of the game.
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btw, re: the latest injury revelations, not to be a conspiracy theorist but I still feel like Proctor was told to say he was hurting. Basically I feel like his initial more candid response that he wasn't hurt was the truth. And now he's been fed some talking points about his arm.
It's all there on the grassy knoll, there was a second injured arm! I'm telling you! {{mmmph!}}
Whoops, thought that was out, but I'll take the yikes-double
For all the conspiracy theories about Loaiza and Bennett, they really have had ailments.
I was thinking the same thing Underdog but I think Proctor new what to say... They stay on the major league team when injured right?
But it was still a poor gamble.
Pepperoni should = paranoid, oops.
128 But... but... Stults wasn't a proven veteran! Tomko and Hendrickson had proven themselves time and time again...
to suck.
Freudian slip?
I think LaRoche preferred 28 and only took 10 because Hillenbrand was acquired and took the number while Andy was in Vegas.
But I'm still for dumping Bowa.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=3461051
I'll take the Grassy Knoll special, pesto and sausage and with little mushrooms shaped like CIA gunmen.
Nice play by DeWitt!
1) Claims he wasn't even aware Proctor was on team; says pitcher's acquisition was "probably the handiwork of those bums in HR."
2) Noting that Proctor's dishonesty violates Ned's chemistry-first mandate, GM promptly trades Proctor for "fiery vet and proven winner" Shawn Chacon.
3) Tells Bill Plaschke that Proctor may have injured his elbow trying to move a trash can that "one of the young guns" placed too close to Proctor's locker. Suspends all players under age 26 for three games each.
--after you grab his neck and throw him down, THEN you "exchange words"? very weird quote: it's like Chacon hired a PR guy between sentences #2 and #3.....
Ha, they decide to take the bat out of The Solution's hands.
159 - well, if you want to get the guy's attention before exchanging words
Few cities have struck me so quickly with being so incredibly horrible.
You just strap in and feel the G's.
While my Drew Carey gently weeps...
My friend was on a trip there and called me in middle of the night ranting about how much he hated Cleveland.
Like McDonald's?
The same holds true if he's only given up a run or two, so long as he's got at least a three run lead.
Of course, Stults had a quick seventh, so I suspect you guys are right and we'll see him in the eighth.
Wow, that's the old school way. Next thing you'll have him going 300 innings over a season.
It's nice to face the White Sox when they're missing a couple of weapons mind you, but this is still terrific. Just try doing that Penny.
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174/184 - But Cleveland also gave us Harvey Pekar and R Crumb, right? And John Heisman, and Dennis Kucinich and Elliot Ness... and there's that rock and roll hall of fame, and there's... and... well, something else, I'm sure.
Hey, it's not Toledo, at least there's that.
You know that he's got to be missing him already. It's an old habit.
CG? ...CG? ... oh yeah, Complete Game! Don't see too many of those anymore :)
The front desk told me it was $12.95.
When I logged in, I was told it was $13.95.
Were there any "Mask" references?
I got more where that came from.
Did I ever mention my sister went to high school with that Eric Stoltz? Yep, pretty exciting.
http://tinyurl.com/yq5ekx
Cleveland's excuse is it's Cleveland, I guess.
If Penny is in shape he probably looks something like Stultz. Stultz, gotta love him.
I'm gonna love this if he gets it.
"What do you teach?"
"A lot of things... I'm a sub actually."
I think Ned's a Cisco man.
Hang your head in shame.
Holy Ch-i, it's been 4 years since a lefty has thrown a CGSH for the Dodgers?
246 But not that typo.
THANK YOU LOGAN WHITE!!!
A beauty.
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